Rasamanjari devi dasi on 10. January 2012 at 8:18 am said:
Let it not be about him but about the farce which has been perpertrated that conditioned souls are as good as God, as good as Srila Prabhupada, that they are nitya siddha pure devotees, that new devotees need them to connect with Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna, etc, All the attention is on him right now. Let him do the best thing he can possibly do and help bust the bogus thinking as he departs from his position. If he is willing to expose the farce from his first hand experience, then his apology will be accepted.
This point is well made:
“PADA: OK, you were asked if you would take the post of a acharya / messiah for ISKCON by other similar people who had hi-jacked that post — and you agreed. Sorry, this was not laid at your feet, you wanted to be worshiped as another GBC sum total of all the demigods messiah and when it was offered — you took it. If that post is artificially conferred on you, its your duty to reject that false conferring process. And in the same way, if someone artificially gets a certificate, “You Are Now A Bona Fide Brain Surgeon,” that person cannot go and start opening up people’s heads with a power saw, and then when arrested for murder, argue, well — I was given a certificate to perform these operations? No, you have to reject that bogus certification, or else you are a criminal.”
The fall down into illicit sex is not the real mistake it was the pretense of being a replacement for Srila Prabhupada to the conditioned souls. He is doing better service now by being such a vivid example of the ghastly effect of having done that, and of having accepted him as good as Srila Prabhupada. He should speak up and condem the entire system, not try to protect it as he leaves or leave quietly knowing what he knows. If he has any honest, good qualities, if he cares for Srila Prabhupada and the devotees at all, or his so-called disciples, that’s what he should do. He should expose and direct to Srila Prabhupada’s Lotus Feet. Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!!
Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!
Let it not be about him but about the farce which has been perpertrated that conditioned souls are as good as God, as good as Srila Prabhupada, that they are nitya siddha pure devotees, that new devotees need them to connect with Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna, etc, All the attention is on him right now. Let him do the best thing he can possibly do and help bust the bogus thinking as he departs from his position. If he is willing to expose the farce from his first hand experience, then his apology will be accepted.
This point is well made:
“PADA: OK, you were asked if you would take the post of a acharya / messiah for ISKCON by other similar people who had hi-jacked that post — and you agreed. Sorry, this was not laid at your feet, you wanted to be worshiped as another GBC sum total of all the demigods messiah and when it was offered — you took it. If that post is artificially conferred on you, its your duty to reject that false conferring process. And in the same way, if someone artificially gets a certificate, “You Are Now A Bona Fide Brain Surgeon,” that person cannot go and start opening up people’s heads with a power saw, and then when arrested for murder, argue, well — I was given a certificate to perform these operations? No, you have to reject that bogus certification, or else you are a criminal.”
The fall down into illicit sex is not the real mistake it was the pretense of being a replacement for Srila Prabhupada to the conditioned souls. He is doing better service now by being such a vivid example of the ghastly effect of having done that, and of having accepted him as good as Srila Prabhupada. He should speak up and condem the entire system, not try to protect it as he leaves or leave quietly knowing what he knows. If he has any honest, good qualities, if he cares for Srila Prabhupada and the devotees at all, or his so-called disciples, that’s what he should do. He should expose and direct to Srila Prabhupada’s Lotus Feet. Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!!
Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!
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ReplyDeleteSince years Rocana preaches to support such living gurus like Prabhavishnu and those who worship Srila Prabhupada are: "Ritvik Church Poison", banned to post articles at his "SUN". He never says who is his living guru but as soon a living guru falls down and there will be more falling down, Rocana says, "it is all ok, it is all normal, just go on being sincere devotees". So this is pretty much a dangerous rascal who will receive his lessons for misleading others. Somehow he got the opportunity of running a successful e-paper, but cannot pronounce five simple words: Prabhupada remains diksa-guru for ISKCON.
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ACARYA AINDRA DAS TO YOUR RESCUE
ReplyDeleteDEAR ROCAN DAS, YOU SILLY SINNER,
IN BRIEF MORTALITY, IT’S IMPRUDENT AND GROSSLY DULL-HEADED OF THOU TO SELF-DESTRUCTIVELY PERSONIFY THY COLOSSAL IGNORANCE BY DEVIATING FROM THE DIVINE PATH OF KRSNA-CONSCIOUSNESS LAID DOWN BY THY OWN GURU, JAGATGURU SRILA A C B S PRABHUPADA, WHO, LIKE ALL ACARYAS BEFORE HIM, HAD NEVER EVER CLAIMED, OR TAUGHT NINCOMPOOPS LIKE THOU, THAT HE IS THE LAST ACARYA IN THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION. [ PAUSE FOR THOUGHT: Because thou art my spiritual uncle, DEMANDING RESPECT,---do thou recall calling me “ass-like” once despite my politeness?--- I have used the more respectful terms of address like THOU and THY in this opening paragraph to boost thy ego. But as thou have failed to EARN REAL RESPECT, I shall use less flowery lingo in the rest of my good advice to save thee from thy imminent eternal hideout in horrendous Hades… unless thou reform before doomsday…and accept this letter as thy saviour, trying to rescue thee from thy doom. A life-saver often has to give a knock-out blow to stun a struggling, drowning person to prevent both drowning in the struggle. I’m that life-saving nephew of thine, Rocan, believe me…don’t mind my harsh tone… go for the substance to aid thy OWN introspection. At least accept the material fact that, at 76, I could be thy caring uncle with chastising rights...]
YOU PRETEND TO BE AGAINST THE RITVIKS, YOUR EQUALLY BRAINLESS GOD-BROTHERS WHO BOOTED THEMSELVES OUT OF THEIR OWN GURUDEVA’S ISKCON… NOT REALIZING THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA ACTUALLY KICKED THEM OUT!!! AT LEAST, THEY ARE STRAIGHT-FORWARD IN THEIR GARGANTUAN FOLLY ABOUT PRABHUPADA BEING THE “ONLY” ACARYA, AND LEFT ISKCON TO START THEIR INSULTING SO-CALLED “ISKCON REFORM MOVEMENT.”
YOU ARE WORSE! YOU WANT TO REMAIN “FAITHFULLY(?)” IN ISKCON, BUT STILL DESTROY IT FROM WITHIN: YOU PREACH AND PRACTISE THE GROSS, RADICALLY ROTTEN RIKVIK ROUTE OF REMORSELESS RUINATION (Grrrrrr…) BY COLONIZING SRI KRSNA’S CYBER-SPACE AND CLAIMING IT AS YOUR OWN DOMAIN, THE “SAMPRADAYA SUN,” TO PROPAGATE YOUR HYPOCRITICAL VERSION OF RITVIKISM, AND INSULTING PRABHUPADA BY SAYING INDIRECTLY THAT HE WAS UNFIT TO PRODUCE ANY SUCCESSOR-ACARYA AFTER HIM, DUBIOUSLY DUBBING HIM “THE LAST SAMPRADAYA ACARYA FOR ISKCON FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS!!” IN THIS WAY, IF YOU SUCCEED IN SUBVERTING YOUR SUPPORTERS ON A LARGE SCALE, AS IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR DEVIOUS PLAN, YOU WOULD THEN BE NATURALLY SEEN AND ACCEPTED AS THE ONLY POST-PRABHUPADA-ACARYA!! NOW, WOULDN’T THAT SWELL YOUR EGO-BOOSTING THICK SKULL FILLED WITH STOOL THAT’S NOT EVEN FERTILE ENOUGH TO MAKE YOUR PEA-SIZED BRAIN GROW INTELLIGENTLY!??
BLOCKED AND BARRICADED BY YOUR EPILEPTIC EGO, I KNOW I CANNOT ACCESS THAT BRAIN-SHAPED PEA WHETHER I USE DIPLOMATIC SWEET LINGO OR NOT. WHY CAST PEARLS AT SWINES? SO, WITHOUT WASTING TIME WITH SWEET TALK, MY UNSOLICITED BUT NECESSARY “JIV-JAGO”-YELL IS THIS:
#1] GIVE UP YOUR POLLUTED WEBSITE WHICH HAS BECOME YOUR BOTTOMLESS WELL OF HELL WHERE NO ROPE IS LONG ENOUGH TO RESCUE YOU WITH. [If it IS, how do I know you’ll not hang yourself with it?]
#2] GIVE UP MINIMIZING YOUR GURU AS THE LAST AND “ONLY” SAMPRADAYA ACARYA. [It’s the grossest of all your Vaisnava-aparadhas.]
#3] GIVE UP THE FALSE NOTION THAT YOU KNOW BEST WHAT’S BEST FOR....[Continued in next panel...]
gourgovindsevak senan./ 05.06.2011
[Submitted to this 'Krishna1OO8' site on 2O Aug 2O12]
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#3 of 5] GIVE UP THE FALSE NOTION THAT YOU KNOW BEST WHAT’S BEST FOR ISKCON AND ISKCONites IN GENERAL, DESPITE THE FACT (WHICH I AGREE WITH YOU 100%) THAT ISKCON IS NOW RUN BY GOONS-BUMS-CHARLATANS [=G-B-C] ---come to think of it, you are not unlike them in running “your” aimless website, headed by a Vaisnava-aparadhi---
#4 of 5] GIVE UP YOUR DIRTY ENVY OF YOUR HARMLESS GURUBHAI SRI SRIMAD GOUR GOVINDA SWAMI MAHASAYA who happens to be my eternal spiritual master though I’m not fit to be his sisya. [He has only love for all, including his adversaries like you, and so he’ll probably scold me for scolding you even though he knows you deserve it.]
#5 of 5] GIVE UP YOUR “LAST ACARYA” NONSENSE, AND READ WITH RIVETTED ATTENTION OUR LATE BELOVED SANKIRTANA-ACARYA SRIPAD AINDRA DASA’s INCREDIBLY ALL-REVEALING POIGNANTLY HEARTFELT EFFUSIVE OUTPOURINGS IN HIS ASTOUNDING 256-PAGE, EXTREMELY CANDID, RAGANUGA BOOK ENTITLED “THE HEART OF TRANSCENDENTAL BOOK DISTRIBUTION” WHICH IS CERTAINLY THE CROWN-JEWEL OF ALL BOOKS EVER WRITTEN BY TRUE AND DOUBTFUL PRABHUPADANUGAS. IF YOU DO READ IT (DON’T SCAN IT FOR GOD’S SAKE), YOU WILL DEFINITELY REALIZE, IN SPITE OF YOUR BLOATED FALSE EGO, THAT, HAD AINDRA, YOUR GOD-BROTHER, NOT BEEN RESCUED BY KRSNA FROM THE DANGERS HE FACED FROM ENVY-RIDDEN GBC, FOR THE EXTREMELY TIMELY, GROUND-BREAKING REVELATIONS IN HIS BOOK, HE’D HAVE EASILY QUALIFIED AS A SAMPRADAYA ACARYA, LIKE HIS OTHER GOD-BROTHER, HDG GOUR GOVINDA SWAMI.
#6] GIVE UP THINKING I’M YOUR FAULT-FINDER. ACTUALLY I CARE, SO I DARE SHARE MY THOUGHTS WITH YOU … FOR YOUR WELFARE. —This is my last hope, knowing you’ll trash this letter anyway—at your own peril…
BUT IF IT (MY HELL-SAVING YELL) HAS MIRACULOUSLY DONE YOU ANY GOOD, I DARE YOU TO PUBLISH IT PRIDELESSLY, TO SHARE IT WITH YOUR READERS WHO’VE NOT READ AINDRA’s TSUNAMI-TYPE ISKCON-SAVING BOOK.
YES! PRABHUPADA CAME TO SAVE THE WHOLE WORLD THROUGH HIS ISKCON. BUT HOW’S THAT POSSIBLE IF ISKCON IS BEING DESTROYED FROM WITHIN BY THE ENVIOUS LIKE YOU AND GBC? ANSWER: ACARYA AINDRA DAS TO THE RESCUE, OF COURSE, FOR HE LIVES ETERNALLY IN HIS BOOK… BOLDLY!!
Regards, gourgovindsevak senan./ 05.06.2011
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Sorry, support of the GBC gurus is not harmless. People get banned, beat, molested and killed. GGM should have joined me by being independent. I offered GGM an opportunity, I asked him to speak out against these GBC guru people, he said he cannot do that because: he has to cooperate, tolerate and work with them.
ReplyDeleteGGM also said my idea of worship of the pure devotee is bogus ritviks, he does not even have any idea that we have to worship a pure person? Even any five year old Christian child knows: you have to worship the pure person, but GGM is clueless, he has less idea than any five year old child anywhere in the USA.
GGM said my idea of worship of the pure person is bogus ritviks, that means he has no idea what the Vedas are talking about. The Vedas say: there is no alternate, you have to worship the pure person. SAT GURU! GGM has to start to go to Sunday school in the USA and learn a few basics. Hopefully he will take birth in a nice Christian family somewhere in Kansas where they can teach him the ABC. He has no idea about the ABC idea even, you need to worship the pure person, or there is no basis for spiritual life.
GGM has no idea what is even basic ABC spiritual life, you need to worship the pure person, that is what even children have knowledge of, but he has not mastered child understanding even. He is clueless. Rudderless.
Personally, I do not work with the Goonda Bully Molester messiah Committee, even if you paid me ten trillion dollars, I'd not cooperate, tolerate and work with them. I will never cooperate with the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children, and yes, even if they would have to kill me, I still won't work with them. I am not going to do that, plain and simple. If my guru bhais do that, that is their problem, I never will. ys pd
Dear Gauragovinda sevak prabhu, I cannot print your swearing and cursing words and so on. Its just not my style. I you have an intelligent point, you are not making it.
ReplyDeleteLets deal with a few issues, GGM did not help me on the molesting issue. He helped keep the molester messiahs program going: http://youtu.be/DqYjk3xNWJ4
I also met with GGM, and he admitted to me that he is working with the bogus GBC gurus: http://youtu.be/YPJkh2uiOw0
Answer these points please, then we can procede from there. ys pd
Dear Gauragovinda Sevaka, GGM nailed it himself, he says that the ISKCON leaders are the personality of Kali Yuga, and he has to "cooperate, tolerate and work with them," he admits he is a servant of Kali Yuga, and you admit you are his servant, so you two can serve Kali Yuga and its child molester acharyas, we chose not to. Its a free world out there, do what you want, we do not cooperate with the worship of child molesters, sorry! ys pd
ReplyDeleteWhy would I care what the Gaura Govinda people think, since 90 percent of them ran off to Narayana Maharaja? You did not anser my points, at all. Name calling is not answer. GGM was voted in as guru at the reinstating of Bhavananada, he was certified as guru when the GBC reinstated a known homosexual as guru. GGM was voted in by these fools. As for NM:
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So yes, the followers of Gaura Govinda ran off to follow the person who makes monkeys into acharyas. Their opinion means nothing to me, I do not accept your monkey messiahs process, period.
Gaura Govinda maharaja supported putting the process of putting the photos perverts, pedophiles, crooks, criminals and deviants photos to be sitting at Krishna's feet on altars being worship as pure devotees, no one is allowed to insult God by putting dogs manure on His altars, not even GGM will get away with this crime against God. Just because he wore an orange robe does not give him the licence to do these things. The same GGM devotees who criticize me now are basically the same ones who criticized me when all the molesting was going on, they never cared one iota for anyone except themselves, I do not need their opinion. ys pd