Thursday, December 31, 2015

Sunnyvale New Years Festival

Sri Krishna Balaram Mandir, India Heritage Foundation


Hare Krishna,

Join us for Grand New Year celebrations on Dec 31st and Jan 1st. We will be doing 4 hour kirtans on Dec 31st and 10 hour kirtans on Jan 1st. End this year and begin the new year in the most auspicious way by engaging in the chanting of the Lord's Holy name! 

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Sri Krishna Balaram Mandir Temple Committee

India Heritage Foundation,
1235 Reamwood Avenue,
Sunnyvale, California 94089
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Wednesday, December 30, 2015

Hrdayananda's Krishna West vs The NA GBC

[PADA: This is the whole problem since 1977. The GBC says its acharyas are managed by their committee. Then, they cannot "manage" their acharyas, because, acharyas are not managed by a committee?  

Then Sivarama comes forward to help, but he is another acharya? How can acharyas contain and control "deviating" acharyas? This is another foolish idea, acharyas are going to contain and control other acharyas -- because they are deviating? 

Yep, Hrdayananda is the pied piper and he is going to take people away from ISKCON. Who is left in ISKCON? Anyway, this is a good example of why their "living guru" program fails, once a person thinks he is the guru spokesman for God, he then thinks he no longer needs to be part of, or under the control of, the GBC. 

OK the acharya is not under the control of a GBC, fine except -- Hrdayananda is not an acharya. The GBC has to admit this point, or they will continue to have these spin off acharya programs taking men, property and assets continue to be drained off of ISKCON. ys pd]  

Bangalore Devotees Braja Parikrama

Five Reasons to go Vegetarian

Fall of the Jeeva Soul pt. 3
Patita Pavana das with a few PADA comments -- 

This is a misunderstanding and mistranslation of Brahma Samhita 5.56 - nimesArdhAkhyo vA vrajati na hi yarapi samayah - "not even a moment of time passes".

Samayah na vrajati “time does not proceed for even half a second”, means according to Jiva Gosvami’s purport that "the inhabitants in Goloka do not know time at all because they are absorbed in Govinda. Or the meaning can be 'the faults of time do not exist there.'"

Srila Prabhupada explains that "no time" in the spiritual world means that the destructive feature of material time is absent. There is spiritual time. The astakaliya-lila revolves on and on, day after day. Astakaliya means the 8 periods of the day with pastimes at the end of the night, morning pastimes, forenoon pastimes, midday pastimes, afternoon pastimes, dusk pastimes, evening pastimes and midnight pastimes, as described in Krishnah-nika Kaumudi,
Govinda lilamrta, Krishna bhavanamrta. 

There is beginning and end of every period. Also, the jiva tatastha fallen soul goes to the spiritual world after the nightmare of maya. He originally left Krishna or Narayana, and goes "Back to Godhead." The jiva began his material
life, was gone from the spiritual world. That material life ended. Then the jiva begins spiritual life again. Thus, there is beginning and end.

But there is no death and old age. And the spiritual forms of the houses and kunja's- forest huts do not get broken down by time. By the arrangement of Sri Krishna's lila-sakti there is eating, cooking, making of new flower garlands etc. This means blissful changing of services of the souls (= the cintamani's or spiritual atoms, the building blocks of the spiritual world see Brahma Samhita T 29 purport).

In this world also the atoms (paramanus) have souls, but they are covered by the three modes of material nature. Srila Prabhupada says: "Everything is generated from Krishna, but according to consciousness they are divided
into superior and inferior energy. The more the consciousness is developed one comes to the superior platform of life.....” (Lecture on SB 5.5 21-22)

“It is the same energy of the lord, but one is developed and the other is not developed. Like this there are varieties of developed consciousness within the material world… Living entities, they have knowledge. That is the difference between matter and living entities. The dull matter still requires to be developed. There is knowledge, but it is covered.” (Lecture by
Srila Prabhupada on SB 3.26.5, Bombay, December 17, 1974)

But in the spiritual world the souls are surrounded by the spiritual atoms of earth, water, fire, air, ether. In the CC Adi-lila 5.53 we read: "The earth, water, fire, air and ether of Vaikuntha are all spiritual. Material elements are not found there". These elements are composed of spiritual atoms, cintamani souls.
As Bhagavad gita 15.1 states -- urdhva-mulam adhah-sakham: This world is a perverted reflection of the spiritual world.

On "Soul returned to Godhead not being allowed to remember the maya energy". "Living entities in the spiritual world don't glance at maya"
This is not so. In Brhad Bhagavatamrta 2.3.77-91, Ganesha is showing, seeing and describing many parties of Vaikuntha devotees who go down from the spiritual world beyond Siva or Mahesha-dhama (which is just in the spiritual world, so beyond the mahat-tattva or maya) to the many universes in the material world to preach and spread pure devotion.

Ganesa showed this to Gopakumara who was in Mahesha dhama He saw a group of attractive four-armed persons from Vaikuntha arrive. They were adorned with all the opulence's of youth, charm, beauty and good fortune.
They made the Saivites seem invisible by their effulgence and were immersed in the blissful rasa of singing the sublime glories of the lord.

Also in Brihad Bhagavatamrta 1.3.46. we read:

"They travel freely wherever they want, protecting and promoting the cause of the Lord's devotees and the Lord's devotional service."

Commentary: "These eternally liberated Vaikuntha-vasis are always helping others. Acting in the material world, they protect sincere persons from misunderstanding the principles of devotional service and thereby falling down and being punished by the agents of Yama-raja. 

The Vaikuntha-vasis encourage the descent of advanced devotees into saintly families, act for the increased prosperity and influence of those devotees, and render unseen help to the devotees' preaching."

According to Sri Jiva Gosvami in Bhakti Sandarbha, anu 180: “the souls returned again to the spiritual world are the best for going to the material world to save fallen souls, because they have experience of suffering, they can most feelingly bestow their grace sometimes recalling their own previous suffering in the same way as a person recalls a nightmare upon waking… Mercy is the movement of the heart which occurs only when the suffering of another person touches one's heart. But the devotee in the spiritual world ever relishes
supreme bliss. 

Therefore, suffering arising out of ignorance cannot penetrate his heart, just as
darkness can never contact the sun….Consequently, there is no possibility of compassion being aroused in that devotee's heart at the plight of such suffering.”

“Devotee: When they go back to Godhead, some people can remember their past lives.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Devotee: In the mind.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Devotee: I thought the mind was left behind?
Prabhupada: No. Actually mind carries you to the next body. So mind goes with you. The material mind, material ego, material intelligence become nil when you are completely liberated. But at that time your spiritual mind acts. 

It is not very difficult to understand. Somebody is acting under the impression... Just like one of our students, he was acting under the impression that he is Frenchman and doing something subversive, and now he is thinking that "I am Krishna's." (chuckles) He has stopped all those nonsense. [break] When he was
thinking that he's a Frenchman, that mind was there. And now he's thinking that "I am Krishna's," the mind is there. So where is the chance of losing the mind?" (Lecture, SB 7.9.11, Montreal)

On "Maha-Visnu creating new incomplete souls sorely deficient in bhakti".
Here Kb. dasa creates a god who for his sadistic fun of playing ‘the saving hero', creates souls in the various hellish prison cells (bodies) of the material world. This kaka-vada he took from the book ‘in Vaikuntha not even the leaves fall'. The main author of this book changed his mind on this subject, after being defeated by the book “our original position”. 

[PADA: Kundali's book on jeevas was made along with some Babajis from India, but it was never actually authorized to even consult with these Babajis by Srila Prabhupada, much less use them as authorities on a book. Their idea that we are originating in brahman or tatastha is mayavada.]

He had made so many translation mistakes to come to the Brahman-tatastha-fall theory. He is now an anadir-patita-vadi. That nitya-patita-vada, philosophy is even more fallen. According to them there is no logic to the souls being in the material world. The material world is not needed.

[PADA: The material world has no reason to exist, this is basically mayavada nihilism, there is no purpose to life. These people are sort of drifting into Jean Paul Sartre territory.]

The spiritual world alone would be perfect and sufficient. Somehow the mistaken creation of the maya is an eternal fact. Even Krishna doesn't want it, but it is eternally designed like that, so He cannot change the dogma.

[PADA: Even Krishna cannot change His own creation?]

In Vaikuntha leaves ‘do’ fall down. In one of the Six Gosvami's of Vrndavana's rasika books there is a description of Krishna waiting in a kunja for Radharani to come. Krishna hears the movement, caused by the wind, of dried fallen leaves on the ground. He thinks this the sound of Radharani coming and walking on the dried leaves. He asks: "Is it You, Radha?"

This kaka-vada is also the philosophy of the Calvinists and Madhvites. With this God "Gaudiya Vaishnavism has to grow and expand around the world"? Do the other than ISKCON Gaudiya – Vaisnava groups want to stay behind and not grow up and fill in the gaps of undeveloped areas of their philosophies. Of no one else have we so much clear words as of Srila Prabhupada's; no wonder its all is very clear, as for example re: the original position of the soul.

Gaudiya Vaisnavism has to grow into the rationalistic scientific world and give logical answers. Teachers in the past may not have presented this issue elaborately, or not all their words have reached us. We know one Radhakunda Mahanta who had no knowledge at all about this topic. 

But Srila Prabhupada knew:

* --Then he becomes fit for going back to home, back to Godhead.” 

* --Everyone is immortal, but he is fallen in such material condition that he thinks himself as mortal. Because I am spirit soul, therefore the Vedic injunction … aham brahmasmi, so ’ham, means “I am as good as the Supreme Being,” means “He is eternal; I am also eternal. He is also living being; I am also
living being.” That means qualitatively we are one, God and me. But quantitatively, He is great; we are small. So we have to realize this, that we can become eternal, immortal, all qualified like God, if we get out of these material clutches…. 

And as soon as you become dhira, you are the first-class candidate for going back to home, back to  Godhead. 

Hridayananda: [translating question] He says that if we are originally in the spiritual world and full of knowledge, how can we try to lord it over, or, in other words, how can we try to do something which actually cannot be done? And if we are originally full of pleasure, then why would we accept an inferior thing?
Prabhupada: That I have already explained, that although you have got the God's qualities, but you are very small. Just like a big fire and the sparks of the fire, similarly, God is big fire and we are like sparks of the fire. 

When the sparks come down from the fire, it becomes extinguished. So because we are very small, as soon as we become out of the big fire, out of touch with God, then we become extinguished. So somehow or other, if you are again go to the fire, you have your original, brightened, illuminating quality, the spark. So at the present moment, somehow or other, being fallen in this material condition, we have lost our godly qualities. 

We can cure that. Just like a diseased man lost his appetite, but by treatment he can again awaken his appetite and eat properly. So we, being very small—we may say "a small god"—therefore we fall under the clutches of maya, illusion. But it can be cured. We can again revive our original position.

Hridayananda: [translating] She said if we have not already achieved perfection, then how can the soul achieve the perfection? It seems that he has to reincarnate slowly in time to achieve the perfection.

Prabhupada: No, that is no argument. If you are diseased, you can be cured if you take the proper medicine, treatment. That's all. Disease is not hopelessness. Otherwise, why the people go for treatment to a physician? 

Similarly, out of ignorance you are now in this miserable condition, but if you become treated by bona fide spiritual master, then you'll be cured. Originally every one of us—pure. Now, by material condition we are now contaminated. That... But there is process to get out of this material contamination. Then
again we become pure. And as soon as we become pure, there is no more birth, death, old age and disease. Finished.

Hridayananda: [translating] Why it seems that when the soul comes into contact with material nature it becomes contaminated?

Prabhupada: He wants to enjoy this material enjoyment. Just like everyone is going to the restaurant for eating something palatable, but we are not going; and somebody is going to cinema, but we are not going to the cinema. 

Similarly, there are two kinds of men: one is attracted, one is not attracted. Those who are not attracted, they are called nitya-siddha, eternally liberated. And those who are being attracted, they are called nitya-baddha, eternally
conditioned. So you'll find always two classes of men. So one is attracted; one is not attracted. In the spiritual world the number of liberated person—many, many times greater than these conditioned soul. 

Just like the prison house and outside the prison house. The population outside the prison house, their number is very great, but within the prison house
there are small number, criminals. So there are innumerable living entities. Out of them, some of them become attracted to this material enjoyment; others not. So one who does not want to serve Krishna and wants to serve his senses, he's put into this material world. And he's given all facilities to enjoy, but he becomes entangled. This is the position. 

(Bg 02-15 MEX City 1975-02)

Our comment. 

"All souls were originally pure, nitya-siddha." 
"Originally every one of us— pure."
"We are originally in the spiritual world and full of knowledge, originally full of
"We have lost our godly qualities.” 
But “by treatment he can again awaken" 
"We can again revive our original position."
"There is process to get out of this material contamination. Then again we become pure.” 
And "then he becomes fit for going back to home, back to Godhead."
"If you are again go to the fire, you have your original, brightened, illuminating quality."

We Tried to Be Tatastha…

…or neutral on studying S. dasa's recent paper, "Jiva-tattva As It Is" on the soul's fall from tatastha or– as he defined it – the ocean between the material and spiritual world.

He states: (S. dasa's points indented):

- "…in the ocean of causes one has a slight dizzy vision of Vasudeva".

That is not fair. This is like half educating your child and throwing it in the ocean between Rama’s kingdom and Ravana's svarna (golden) Lanka. Better foster the child in Ramaraja and then give it a free choice. Therefore we fall from love of God in the spiritual world. 

One even gets a warning of protection (SB 3.12.3 purport) "Anyone who has some independence may sometimes misuse it due to ignorance. When the
living entity prefers to misuse his independence and glide down towards nescience, the all merciful Lord first of all tries to protect him from the trap, but when the living entity persists in gliding down to hell, the Lord helps him to forget his real position …the Lord naturally does not like to see anyone falling down from his real position".

"His real position" means prema-bhakti, not the brahmajyoti and ocean of causes. One falls from loving service to Krishna.

“Our position is manah shashthanindriyani prakriti-sthani karshati [Bg. 15.7]. Detached from Krishna, we are in this prakriti, material nature, and our business is struggle for existence for the same pleasure, which is never obtainable in this material world. Therefore the intelligence is that we should again go back to home, go back to Krishna, and dance with Him in His rasa
dance.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.26.19, Bombay, December 28, 1974)

- "Krishna has full power over His energies – not over the tatastha." It is S. dasa’s axiom that Krishna has full power only over every nitya siddha. Why He does not exert full power over every jiva so no one has to fall down, and suffer. According to S. dasa only some living beings are generated perfectly either as nitya-siddha-jiva-sakti, svarupa-sakti or Visnu tattva with fully developed siddha deha and free will. 

God should have created all the jivas like that. There would be no need of a Viraja region nor of a material world. Everyone eternally happy! Why the jivas in the spiritual world, with free will, are exempt from going through a Viraja-mahat-tattva trial. They also need "a perfect spiritual environment of neutrality to choose," as S. dasa puts it, or are they forced to love?

[PADA: Right there is a major flaw in the idea that we DID NOT FALL from Krishna's association, it means He placed some people WITH HIM and some NOT WITH HIM, which is un-equal and unjust.]

- "Out of curiosity 25% of the souls in the ocean of causes lean towards maya, 75% go to the spiritual world".

He comes to this because he thinks ¾th of the souls had to come to the spiritual world and ¼th to the maya world. This is the quantitative wrong idea of ekapada - tripada vibhuti. The actual meaning of this is that the Lord has 4 vibutis or excellences: the spiritual energy of the spiritual world – the
svarupa-sakti, the Brahmajyoti, the marginal energy and the material world.
tripad-vibhuter dhamatvat tripadbhutam tu tat padam vibhutir mayiki sarva prokta padatmikayatah. 

Vaikuntha is called tripad-bhutam because it is the abode which possess three portions of power. All the powers of the material realm are called only one portion.

Commentary: When Vaikuntha is described as tripad-bhutam it means that the material powers of the material realm consisting of one pad or segment, do not exist in Vaikuntha.

(Laghu Bhagavatamrta 5.286)

- "Fall means the Lord lacks control over His world".

In Ramaraja, Ravana and other demons are expelled or destroyed. Why force a Ravana into a holy kingdom. That would cause fear in a paradise. - "In suddha sattva viraja inconceivably the pure soul gets its false ego".

However, there is no false ego in the Viraja ocean, false ego is only a later development. The Viraja ocean expands the pradhana; pradhana expands the mahat-tattva; and mahat-tattva expands false ego.

- "We can't argue why false ego arises from pure consciousness." This statement simply means that at any moment maya can further captivate or entangle someone who is in the maya world. See the context of this statement (SB 3.26.23); there is no discussion of the causal ocean there.

Another point is that when the souls are coming out of Maha-Visnu, there is no maya world yet to glance at to become attracted to and lean towards. This is S. dasa’s own theory.

This glancing to maya and Krishna (described in the Jaiva-dharma chapter 7, 15, 16) is when the soul comes down from the spiritual planets and gets a second choice at the border with the maya world. The first choice is on the spiritual planets; the second choice is with the warning of protection.

Alternatively, this glancing describes the ontological nature of the marginal energy; he is free to go to Krishna or to the material world.

USA Congresswoman Protests Bangladesh Attacks

US Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard

Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii – the first Hindu congresswoman in America – has requested Marcia Bernicat, the U.S. Ambassador in Bangladesh, to visit an ISKCON temple there that recently withstood a terrorist attack.

She also urged the ambassador to put pressure on the Bangladeshi government to prosecute the attackers. The assault took place at the ISKCON temple in the Kaharol region of Dinajpur on December 10th, during a gathering of over two thousand devotees.

According to Monsur Ali Sarker, officer-in-charge of Kaharol Police Station, five men on two motorbikes rode by and hurled a bomb, which did not explode.

“However, the attackers opened fire at the entrance, injuring two people,” said ISKCON general secretary of Bangladesh Caru Candra Das, who was present at the time.

The criminals then exploded two more crude bombs – which did not cause any further injuries -- to make way for their escape, according to officer Sarker. However, locals caught one of them, Safayet Hossain, in possession of another makeshift bomb.

The attack was the fourth such incident within one month on followers of Hinduism in Bangladesh. In the aftermath, the Hindu American Foundation requested Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard to take action and bring more attention to this serious plight. ISKCON Minister of Communications and GBC member Anuttama Das also met with her on December 16th to discuss the problems and ask for her help.

Gabbard moved swiftly, corresponding with Bangladesh’s US Ambassador Marcia Bernicat on December 22nd.

“I am writing to you to express my alarm at the terrorist attacks on religious minorities in Bangladesh,” she said. “I urge you to visit the temples that were targeted in the most recent attacks, and request that you urge the government to ensure a thorough investigation of the attacks and fully prosecute those responsible.”

She also specifically mentioned ISKCON: “The two recent attacks against the Kantaji temples and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) temple… have left dozens injured and are clear examples of the Islamic extremism against religious minorities that is growing in Bangladesh.”

ISKCON devotees form a human chain to protest the attack on their temple in Dinajpur, Bangladesh

She added: “There are many reports that… the government is not fulfilling its duty to investigate and prosecute those who are responsible for these horrific attacks on human rights. The government must take action to ensure that Bangladesh does not become a haven for Islamic extremists.”

Tulsi Gabbard concluded: “I ask that you visit these attacked temples, and meet with local leaders, such as the Bangladesh Hindu Buddhist Christian Unity Council, to show America’s commitment to the human rights of all in Bangladesh. Additionally, the embassy must urge the Bangladeshi government to make it a priority to bring the perpetrators of this violence to justice.”

Meanwhile for their part ISKCON devotees conducted peaceful marches across Bangladesh to bring the situation to the attention of the Bangladeshi government and the world.

Documents presented in April this year at the US Congressional Hearing on Religious Extremism in Bangladesh stated that within the broader Hindu community “more than 47 temples were destroyed and approximately 700-1500 homes vandalized or burned to the ground (estimates vary) at the beginning of 2013. In the aftermath of the violence, Amnesty International noted with concern that the Hindu community in Bangladesh was at extreme risk.”

A major part of that Hindu community, ISKCON has forty temples and 15,000 initiated devotees in the country. It also has an estimated up to 500,000 people worshiping at these temples during the year and 100,000 attending the annual Dhaka Rathayatra.

“This year alone marked several attacks in Bangladesh against temples, congregational gatherings and individuals simply due to their religious beliefs,” said Anuttama Dasa, Global Communications Minister for ISKCON. “We appeal to the Government of Bangladesh to address the growing intolerance towards minority communities and to safeguard the fundamental right of religious freedom for all as specified in the country’s constitution.”

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Tuesday, December 29, 2015

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Nectarean Advice from Srila Saraswati Thakura

Nectarean Advice by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura

(1) Obtaining the shelter of the lotus feet of a genuine guru is, without a doubt, a matter of both great fortune and great dilemma for the baddha-jiva (conditioned soul). If, however, a fortunate soul has a sincere longing and ardency to attain a true guru, he does so by the mercy of Sri Krishna.

(2) The baddha-jiva is extremely insignificant; it is impossible for him to realise the magnitude of Sri Guru.

(3) One who, birth after birth has accumulated bhaktiunmukhi-sukriti, or spiritual merits leading to bhakti, will, in one birth, come face to face with the devotee of Sri Krishna, Sri Guru, by Sri Krishna’s mercy. By the mercy of that krishna-bhakta (devotee of Krishna, Sri Gurudeva) one hears krishna-katha (topics of Krishna) from his mouth and gradually experiences the appearance of devotion in one’s heart. By the light of the sun, one sees the sun. Similarly, in the light of the sadhu’s mercy one can comprehend the sadhu’s svarupa (eternal nature), and an acute hankering awakens to engage in hari-bhajana (worship of Krishna) in the shelter of his lotus feet.

(4) The sadhu (saintly personality, Sri Guru) mercifully gives mantra initiation (diksha) and instructions (siksha) in the path of hari-bhajana to that sincere and surrendered person.

(5) As a result of accepting the shelter of a sadhu’s lotus feet, a person performs hari-bhajana, and as he gradually becomes free from anarthas (unwanted impressions in the heart), he becomes cognizant of the nature of the transcendental reality.

(6) Only a sadhu who knows the imports of all sastras (scriptures), who is devoted to Bhagavan and who is intent on bhajana, is a genuine guru. Those who speak in order to appease the fancies of the baddha-jiva’s mind and thus try to attract it are not worthy of the title guru; rather they are the jiva’s enemies. Never associate with them no matter how fond of their charming words you may be.

(7) Know that the entirety of instructions given by the karmis (material enjoyers), jnanis (impersonalist speculators), yogis and pseudo bhaktas to the jiva so he can obtain his own pleasure contain no message of eternal, supreme auspiciousness. The association of such persons is always to be rejected, no matter how enjoyable it is.

(8) One cannot understand that the association of nondevotees brings utter inauspiciousness until, as a matter of fortune one achieves the pure devotee’s mercy, which results from Sri Krishna’s grace.

(9) The words of pure devotees are contrary to our sense gratification. No matter how pitiless and harsh their words may seem if we can sincerely submit to them with our body, mind and words, our eternal welfare is assured.

(10) Maha-bhagavata Vaishnavas (exalted devotees of Sri Krishna) are the eternal, dear associates of Gaura-Krishna (Lord Chaitanya and Lord Krishna). If a soul has not accumulated an unlimited amount of bhaktiunmukhi-sukriti, the association and shelter of such Vaishnavas does not come within the scope of his fortune.

(11) Merely maintaining the arrogance that one has received the mercy of pure devotees does not actually award that mercy or the position of being their disciple.

(12) A genuine disciple is just as rare as a genuine guru.

(13) Sri Bhagavan, as antaryami, resides in the hearts of all. Since pure devotees are the antaryami of even Bhagavan, they can serve Him according to His internal desires and thus please Him. Thus they are known as bhagavat-preshtha. Even after becoming the genuine disciple of such a person, one must understand the inner desire of Sri Gurudeva and serve him accordingly.

(14) One cannot charm Sri Gurudeva with a display of external emotions, gestures and formalities. If one becomes a disciple without sincerely surrendering oneself at Sri Gurudeva’s lotus feet, it is like trying to cheat a blacksmith regarding iron, and one is bound to be cheated of his own welfare.

(15) Only at the time of Sri Gurudeva’s disappearance can one recognise the actual identity of his disciples. One can then understand who has approached Sri Guru with what intention.

(16) Even after taking shelter of a sad-guru’s lotus feet, some disciples secretly strive to occupy the seat of Sri Gurudeva at the time of his disappearance. Their acceptance of the shelter of Sri Guru’s feet was merely deceit. They are, in fact, hostile and inimical to guru.

(17) Moreover, some disciples try to misappropriate the opulence and paraphernalia intended for the service of Sri Guru-Gauranga. This is not understood while Sri Gurudeva is still present, but after he has disappeared from this world, it assumes a terrible form. Know these disciples to be hypocrites, enjoyers and offenders.

(18) Even at the time of Sri Gurudeva’s manifest presence, some try to control their godbrothers instead of regarding them as worshipable. Thus, they become severe offenders of the Vaishnavas.

(19) Those who have been appointed to the position of temple-manager, but who do not serve in mutual cooperation with others and are reluctant to give due respect to their godbrothers, are sense enjoyers, that is, enjoyers of the temple. Instead of serving Bhagavan they are greedy to enjoy His property. They are a disgrace to the title “disciple”.

(20) Many, who are disciples in name only, even try to destroy the institution when Sri Gurudeva disappears because the honor they receive decreases at that time. These people are most inimical to guru and most certainly condemned to hell.

(21) Those disciples who deviate and engage in numerous acts of malice against Sri Guru when he disappears were undoubtedly hidden deceivers at the time of his manifest presence.

(22) Those in the stage of sadhana, who are not careful about obeying Sri Guru and avoiding offenses to Vaishnavas, fall down even though they may have reached an elevated level.

(23) Those who take shelter at the lotus feet of a sadguru with a desire to do hari-bhajana should simple-heartedly follow Sri Gurudeva’s instructions with their body, mind and words. If they fail to drive extraneous desires from their hearts, the prohibited endeavors for karma and jnana will present numerous deterrents to remaining on the path of suddha-bhakti.

(24) If the disciple’s heart is not clean, Sri Guru’s heart does not reflect in it. Only out of immense fortune does the moon of bhakti that exists in the heart of Sri Gurudeva, maha-bhagavata, manifest within the heart of the disciple.

(25) A simple-hearted disciple, who desires his true benefit, practically never meets a bad end.

(26) A disciple surrendered at the lotus feet of a sad-guru should always keep in mind the teachings from “Sri Rupa-siksha” in Sri Caitanya-caritamrita. In this way he should serve Sri Guru without duplicity, and with utmost caution he should cultivate the limbs of sravana and kirtana of sri hari-katha.

(27) If the sadhaka’s life lacks simplicity and caution, he will achieve the opposite of his cherished ideal.

(28) Among all the jivas who are wandering throughout the universe, one who has accrued spiritual merit over many lifetimes obtains the seed of the creeper of bhakti, or sraddha. This takes place when the jiva, by Krishna’s mercy, is favored by His dear associates. Endowed with that sraddha, the disciple as a gardener, plants that seed in his heart. He waters it by hearing and chanting the instructions flowing from the mouth of Sri Gurudeva. Thus by these activities, the creeper sprouts and gradually climbs to the lotus feet of Sri Krishna.

(29) That creeper of bhakti passes beyond this universe, and beyond the Viraja River, Brahma-loka and Paravyoma, the spiritual sky, and goes to Goloka Vrindavana where it climbs the kalpa-vriksha (wish-fulfilling tree) of Sri Krishna’s lotus feet. The gardener, still in this world, continues to irrigate the creeper with the water of sravana and kirtana and thus welcomes the fortune of tasting the fruit of prema.

(30) If, in the stage of sadhana (spiritual practice in this world), innumerable weeds, such as the desire for enjoyment, liberation, material gain, worship and fame grow, as well as the tendency to engage in prohibited behavior – cheating, violence, and so forth – then the main plant cannot grow. At the time of watering it, the practitioner will first cautiously cut the weeds so that they don’t grow.

(31) One fault can arise that is most detrimental to the practitioner. It is known as vaishnava-aparadha (offenses to devotees of Krishna) and it can either uproot or cut the creeper of devotion like a mad elephant uproots a plant. As a result, the creeper of devotion immediately dries up. Therefore, the practitioner is to remain diligent to ensure this does not happen. If gurva-avajna (disobeying guru) and vaishnava-aparadha occur, all one’s progress in Krishna consciousness is destroyed.

(32) I have instructed those who have taken shelter of me to always remain cautious in this regard. I have tried to the best of my ability to repeat the instructions of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, His associates and our Sri Guru-varga. Nevertheless, those who remain inattentive and consequently not cautious about committing offenses to great personalities or about uprooting the weeds cannot be helped. After I leave this body, none of you (my followers) should commit offenses and thus act to cause even slight damage to the institution. If all of you cannot cooperate to perform hari-bhajana together according to my instructions, it is better that you either enter household life or move to a place of pilgrimage and perform hari-bhajana.

Excerpt from Sri Upadesamrta by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura

Monday, December 28, 2015

Krishna West Reveals Ugly Face

[PADA: Secretly recorded conversation where Hrdayananda says he will never work with the GBC. Well, why doesn't the GBC get rid of this renegade fully and publicly? He says, "We are done with the GBC." He was done with the GBC the whole while, he has always been a maverick. 

Sivarama swami has simply not been effective in countering this because, he would have to declare that Hrdayananda was never an acharya in the first place. Hrdayananda reveals his plan to hi-jack ISKCON and take devotees away from the GBC. Hi-jack them to, where? 

Hrdayananda also is "chanting in his mind." Hee hee. That is what Satsvarupa was saying, he cannot chant loudly because "it gives him a headache." This is one of the reasons ISKCON is falling apart, these "gurus" are splintering off, and when that happens, they take "their" people and assets with them. PADA is not too worried, the mass of people are not going to run off and take shelter of Krishna West, ok he might take a few people with him, but not enough to be of much significance. As the commentator says, this is all very sad, the GBC cannot even control their ping pong swami. ys pd]      

Music By Janaki on cdbaby

Sanskrit -- and Latin and Greek languages

Goverdan Seva Team (nice footage of Braj area)

Disappearance of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura

(Celebrated today December 28th in California Time Zone)

Compiled bv Damaghosa dasa and Yasoda nandana dasa

Srila Prabhupada explains about the glories of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

Books : Bhagavad-gita As It Is - Macmillan 1972 Edition : Bg: introduction :1) Krsna, 2) Brahma, 3) Narada; 4) Vyasa, 5) Madhva, 6) Padmanabha, 7) Nrhari, 8) Madhava, 9) Aksobhya, 10) Jayatirtha, 11) Jnanasindhu, 12) Dayanidhi, 13) Vidyanidhi, 14) Rajendra, 15) Jayadharma, 16) Purusottama, 17) Brahmanyatirtha, 18) Vyasatirtha, 19) Laksmipati, 20) Madhavendra Puri, 21) Isvara Puri, (Nityananda, Advaita), 22) Lord Caitanya, 23) Rupa (Svarupa, Sanatana), 24) Raghunatha, Jiva, 25) Krsnadasa, 26) Narottama, 27) Visvanatha, 28) (Baladeva) Jagannatha, 29) Bhaktivinode, 30) Gaurakisora, 31) Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvatī, 32) His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Srila Prabhupada gives all credit to his Guru Maharaja

"...In Los Angeles many fathers and mothers used to come to see me to express their feelings of gratitude for my leading the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement throughout the entire world. Some of them said that it is greatly fortunate for the Americans that I have started the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement in America. 

"But actually the original father of this movement is Lord Kṛṣṇa Himself, since it was started a very long time ago but is coming down to human society by disciplic succession. If I have any credit in this connection, it does not belong to me personally, but it is due to my eternal spiritual master, His Divine Grace Om Visnupada Paramahamsa Parivrajakacarya 108 Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja Prabhupada.."

Books : Bhagavad-gita As It Is - Macmillan 1972 Edition : Bg: Preface :

Srila Prabhupada explains his birth in a family of transcendentalists and his meeting His Guru Maharaja

Books : Bhagavad-gita As It Is - Macmillan 1972 Edition : Bg 6: Sankhya-yoga : Bg 6.42 : PURPORT :Birth in a family of yogis or transcendentalists - those with great wisdom - is praised herein because the child born in such a family receives spiritual impetus from the very beginning of his life. It is especially the case in the acarya or gosvami families. Such families are very learned and devoted by tradition and training, and thus they become spiritual masters. 

In India there are many such acarya families, but they have now degenerated due to insufficient education and training. By the grace of the Lord, there are still families that foster transcendentalists generation after generation. It is certainly very fortunate to take birth in such families. Fortunately, both our spiritual master, Om Visnupada Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, and our humble self, had the opportunity to take birth in such families, by the grace of the Lord, and both of us were trained in the devotional service of the Lord from the very beginning of our lives. Later on we met by the order of the transcendental system.

Srila Prabhupada explains the acharyas glorious literary contributions:

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1:"Creation" : SB Introduction : SB Introduction :Many devotees of Lord Caitanya like Śrila Vṛndavana dasa Ṭhakura, Sri Locana dasa Ṭhakura, Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, Sri Kavikarnapura, Sri Prabodhananda Sarasvati, Sri Rupa Gosvami, Sri Sanatana Gosvami, Śrī Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami, Sri Jiva Gosvami, Sri Gopala Bhatta Gosvami, Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami and in this latter age within two hundred years, Sri Visvanatha Cakravarti, Śrī Baladeva Vidyabhusana, Śrī Syamananda Gosvami, Sri Narottama dasa Ṭhakura, Sri Bhaktivinoda Ṭhakura and at last SriBhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura (our spiritual master) and many other great and renowned scholars and devotees of the Lord have prepared voluminous books and literatures on the life and precepts of the Lord. 

Such literatures are all based on the sastras like the Vedas, Puranas, Upanisads, Ramayana, Mahabharata and other histories and authentic literatures approved by the recognized acaryas.They are unique in composition and unrivaled in presentation, and they are full of transcendental knowledge. Unfortunately the people of the world are still ignorant of them, but when these literatures, which are mostly in Sanskrit and Bengali, come to light the world and when they are presented before thinking people, then India's glory and the message of love will overflood this morbid world, which is vainly searching after peace and prosperity by various illusory methods not approved by the acaryas in the chain of disciplic succession.

Srila Prabhupada credits His Guru Maharaja for helping him to revive his old habit of deity worship

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1:"Creation" : SB 1.12: Birth of Emperor Pariksit : SB 1.12.30 : PURPORT :Srila Jiva Gosvamī remarks in this connection that every child, if given an impression of the Lord from his very childhood, certainly becomes a great devotee of the Lord like Maharaja Pariksit. One may not be as fortunate as Maharaja Pariksit to have the opportunity to see the Lord in the womb of his mother, but even if he is not so fortunate, he can be made so if the parents of the child desire him to be so. 

There is a practical example in my personal life in this connection. My father was a pure devotee of the Lord, and when I was only four or five years old, my father gave me a couple of forms of Radha and Krsna. In a playful manner, I used to worship these Deities along with my sister, and I used to imitate the performances of a neighboring temple of Radha-Govinda. By constantly visiting this neighboring temple and copying the ceremonies in connection with my own Deities of play, I developed a natural affinity for the Lord. My father used to observe all the ceremonies befitting my position. Later on, these activities were suspended due to my association in the schools and colleges, and I became completely out of practice. 

But in my youthful days, when I met my spiritual master, Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvamī Maharaja, again I revived my old habit, and the same playful Deities became my worshipful Deities in proper regulation. This was followed up until I left the family connection, and I am pleased that my generous father gave the first impression which was developed later into regulative devotional service by His Divine Grace. Maharaja Prahlada also advised that such impressions of a godly relation must be impregnated from the beginning of childhood, otherwise one may miss the opportunity of the human form of life, which is very valuable although it is temporary like others.

Srila Prabhupada explains the power of sadhu-sanga and the powerful favor of His Guru Maharaja

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1:"Creation" : SB 1.13: Dhrtarastra Quits Home : SB 1.13.29 : PURPORT :Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the great preacher of the principles of Śrimad-Bhagavatam, has stressed the importance of association withsadhus, pure devotees of the Lord. He said that even by a moments association with a pure devotee, one can achieve all perfection. We are not ashamed to admit that this fact was experienced in our practical life. Were we not favored by His Divine Grace Srimad BhaktisiddhantaSarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, by our first meeting for a few minutes only, it would have been impossible for us to accept this mighty task of describing Srimad-Bhagavatam in English. Without seeing him at that opportune moment, we could have become a very great business magnate, but never would we have been able to walk the path of liberation and be engaged in the factual service of the Lord under instructions of His Divine Grace.

Srila Prabhupada explains the about the power of a true representative of the Lord like Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 2: "The Cosmic Manifestation" : SB 2.8: Questions by King Pariksit : SB 2.8.5 : PURPORT :In other words, the cleansing of the polluted heart by other methods (like the culture of empiric knowledge or mystic gymnastics) can simply cleanse one's own heart, but devotional service to the Lord is so powerful that it can cleanse the hearts of the people in general, by the devotional service of the pure, empowered devotee. A true representative of the Lord like Narada, Sukadeva Gosvami, Lord Caitanya, the six Gosvamis and later Srila Bhaktivinoda Ṭhakura and Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Ṭhakura, etc., can deliver all people by their empowered devotional service.

Srila Prabhupada describes His Guru Maharaja as an avowed brahmacari
Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 3: "The Status Quo" : SB 3.12: Creation of the Kumaras and Others : SB 3.12.42 : PURPORT :During student life the brahmacaris were given full instructions about the importance of the human form of life. Thus the basic education was designed to encourage the student in becoming free from family encumbrances. Only students unable to accept such a vow in life were allowed to go home and marry a suitable wife. 

Otherwise, the student would remain a permanent brahmacari, observing complete abstinence from sex life for his whole life. It all depended on the quality of the student’s training. We had the opportunity to meet an avowed brahmacariin the personality of our spiritual master, Om Visnupada Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Gosvami Maharaja. Such a great soul is called anaisthika-brahmacarī.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvamī Maharaja, who at the present moment is preaching the philosophy of Lord Caitanya throughout the entire world through his bona fide disciples.

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 3: "The Status Quo" : SB 3.22: The Marriage of Kardama Muni and Devahuti : SB 3.22.19 : PURPORT :After fulfilling his responsibility to produce a nice child, one should take sannyasa and engage in the perfectional paramahamsa stage.paramahamsa refers to the most highly elevated perfectional stage of life. There are four stages within sannyasa life, and paramahamsa is the highest order. The Srimad-Bhagavatam is called the paramahamsa-samhita, the treatise for the highest class of human beings. 

The paramahamsa is free from envy. In other stages, even in the householder stage of life, there is competition and envy, but since the activities of the human being in the paramahaṁsa stage are completely engaged in Kṛsna consciousness, or devotional service, there is no scope for envy. In the same order as Kardama Muni, about one hundred years ago, Ṭhakura Bhaktivinoda also wanted to beget a child who could preach the philosophy and teachings of Lord Caitanya to the fullest extent. By his prayers to the Lord he had as his childBhaktisiddhānta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, who at the present moment is preaching the philosophy of Lord Caitanya throughout the entire world through his bona fide disciples.

Srila Prabhupada explains that Gaura kishora accepted Bhaktisidhanta Sarasvati as His disciple
Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 4: "The Creation of the Fourth Order" : SB 4.2: Daksa Curses Lord Siva : SB 4.2.18 : PURPORT :Because of this curse, Śiva was deprived of his share in the oblations of Vedic sacrifices. It was due to the curse of Dakṣa, Sri Visvanatha Cakravarti comments in this connection, that Lord Siva was saved from the calamity of taking part with other demigods, who were all materialistic. Lord Siva is the greatest devotee of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and it is not fitting for him to eat or sit with materialistic persons like the demigods. 

Thus the curse of Daksa was indirectly a blessing, for Śiva would not have to eat or sit with other demigods, who were too materialistic. There is a practical example set for us by Gaurakisora dasa Babaji Maharaja, who used to sit on the side of a latrine to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Many materialistic persons used to come and bother him and disturb his daily routine of chanting, so to avoid their company he used to sit by the side of a latrine, where materialistic persons would not go because of the filth and the obnoxious smell. 

However, Gaurakiaora dāsa Babaji Maharaja was so great that he was accepted as the spiritual master of such a great personality as His Divine Grace Om Visnupada Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja. The conclusion is that Lord Śiva behaved in his own way to avoid materialistic persons who might disturb him in his prosecution of devotional service.

Srila Prabhupada says that He simply following in the footsteps of His Guru Maharaja jn fullfilling the prediction of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 4: "The Creation of the Fourth Order" : SB 4.22: Prthu Maharaja's Meeting with the Four Kumaras : SB 4.22.42 : PURPORT : When Lord Viṣṇu appeared in the great arena of sacrifice at the time when King Prthu was performing a great sacrifice (asvamedha), He predicted that the Kumaras would very soon come and advise the King. Therefore Pṛthu Mahārāja remembered the causeless mercy of the Lord and thus welcomed the arrival of the Kumaras, who were fulfilling the Lord’s prediction. In other words, when the Lord makes a prediction, He fulfills that prediction through some of His devotees. 

Similarly, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu predicted that both His glorious names and the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra would be broadcast in all the towns and villages of the world. Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhakura and Śrīla Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada desired to fulfill this great prediction, and we are following in their footsteps.

Srila Prabhupada explains how everyone can follow in the footsteps of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

Books : Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 4: "The Creation of the Fourth Order" : SB 4.23: Maharaja Prthu's Going Back Home : SB 4.23.5 : PURPORT :Srila Rupa Gosvami, after retiring from his minister’s seat in the government, went to Vṛndavana and lived beneath a tree, like Maharaja Prthu. Since then, many people have gone to Vṛndavana to imitate Rupa Gosvami’s behavior. 

Instead of advancing in spiritual life, many have fallen into material habits and even in Vṛndavana have become victims of illicit sex, gambling and intoxication. The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement has been introduced in the Western countries, but it is not possible for Westerners to go to the forest and practice the severe austerities which were ideally practiced by Pṛthu Maharaja or Rupa Gosvami. However, Westerners or anyone else can follow in the footsteps of Srila Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvati Ṭhakura by living in a temple, which is transcendental to residence in a forest, and to vow to accept krsna-prasada and nothing else, follow the regulative principles and chant sixteen rounds daily of the Hare Kṛṣṇamantra. In this way, one’s spiritual life will never be disturbed.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura explains the unwanted creepers of bhakti:

Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - 1975 Edition : Cc. Madhya-lila : Madhya 19: Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Instructs Srila Rupa Gosvami : Madhya 19.160 : PURPORT : 'nisiddhacara', 'kutinati', jiva-himsana' 'labha', 'puja', 'pratisthadi' yata upasakha-gana :
The unwanted creepers have been described by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Ṭhakura. He states that if one hears and chants without trying to give up offenses, one becomes materially attached to sense gratification. One may also desire freedom from material bondage like the Mayavadis, or one may become attached to the yoga-siddhis and desire wonderful yogic powers. If one is attached to wonderful material activities, one is called siddhi-lobhī, greedy for material perfection. 

One may also be victimized by diplomatic or crooked behavior, or one may associate with women for illicit sex. Others may make a show of devotional service like the prakrta-sahajiyas, or one may try to support his philosophy by joining some caste or identifying himself with a certain dynasty, claiming a monopoly on spiritual advancement. Thus with the support of family tradition, one may become a pseudo guru or so-called spiritual master. 

One may become attached to the four sinful activities-illicit sex, intoxication, gambling and meat eating, or one may consider a Vaisnava to belong to a mundane caste or creed. One may think, "This is a Hindu Vaiṣṇava, and this is a European Vaiṣṇava. A European Vaiṣṇava is not allowed to enter the temples." In other words, one may consider Vaiṣṇavas in terms of birth, thinking one a brahmaṇa Vaisnava, a sudra Vaisnava, a mleccha Vaisnava and so on. 

One may also try to carry out a professional business while chanting the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra or reading Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, or one may try to increase his monetary strength by illegal means. One may also try to be a cheap Vaisnava by chanting in a secluded place for material adoration, or one may desire mundane reputation by making compromises with non devotees, compromising one's philosophy or spiritual life, or one may become a supporter of a hereditary caste system. All these are pitfalls of personal sense gratification. Just to cheat some innocent people, one makes a show of advanced spiritual life and becomes known as a sādhu, mahātmā or religious person. 

All this means that the so-called devotee has become victimized by all these unwanted creepers and that the real creeper of bhakti-lata-bija has been stunted.


Today, Monday December 28th, is the disappearance day of our most wonderful Grandfather Guru, His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. It's recommended to fast half a day to honor and celebrate Him.

These are His final instructions...

1. Do not try to be a hero, simply try to be a speck in the hands of the spiritual master.
2. Always take shelter of Hari Nama & Hari Katha.
3. Beware of disunity.


From an English lecture by Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada at the Calcutta Gaudiya Math on the evening of the 7th December 1936. 

"This wicked mind, which is never to be trusted, should be broomsticked every morning with such warnings as, "Be not anxious to find fault with others, or to declare thyself a true, sincere, bona fide bhakta, which certainly thou art not!"

There is an adage to the effect that "para-carccakera gati nahi kona kale -- a man who is habituated to criticize others conduct will never prosper!" Let others do whatever they like, I have no concern for them. I should rather find fault with my own damned mind and think like the Vaishnava mahajana.

(His father Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura) who sings...

amara jibana, sada pape rata
nahiko punyera lesa
para-sukhe duhkhi, sada mithya-bhasi
para-duhkha sukha-karo

"Ever engaged in vicious activity, and without the slightest trace of virtue in me. A liar as I am, always sorry at others pleasures and merry at other's sorrows, troubles and cares."

We should always remember this song and engage our mind ceaselessly in Hari Bhajan. We should not run about attacking others with dissuading policy -- such conduct behooves only deceitful persons and not preachers.

All glories to His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. All glories to His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. 

Sunday, December 27, 2015

Zee TV Ramayan

[PADA: I only just got sent this link today, and so I am not sure how accurate this version is. Sorry, there are no subtitles. This was on TV in India a few years ago. Have to admit -- I do like seeing the Bollywood actors in Vedic dress, Vedic style scenery, singing songs about Krishna, palaces, fighting scenes, and all the rest of that. I have the whole collection of Ramanand Sagar's 56 Krishna Leela DVD videos (which you can get on E-bay for about $75.00). ys pd] 

Akshaya Patra with Home Minister Shri Rajnath Singh

With Shri Rajnath Singh Home Minister, Madhu Pandit and Shri Chanchalapati Prabhus at Akshaya Patra Foundation Lucknow.

Hrdayananda's Krishna West vs Sivarama Swami

PADA: Oh great, the Vaishnava acharyas are cat fighting with one another in public. This is another foolish idea, for example Bhakti Vikas swami has been challenging Radhanath for writing a bogus book, and yet both of them are supposed to be acharyas. Now Hrdayananda is being challenged by Sivarama and others. Why don't these fools know that acharyas are not challenging one another in public cat fights over siddhanta?

All I know is that in 1977 we had 240 devotees in Berkeley and many householders who were living in the temple's three houses. Then Hrdayananda came here in 1982, and he ordered all the householders to move out, since he was selling the houses. 

Needless to say, that was pretty much the end of the householder community, and nowadays the temple is struggling for the past decade with maybe 15 people living in the temple. And since then, rents in Berkeley have gone up 200 percent making it very hard for any householders to live near the temple at all. I am not sure how we can have Krishna in the West or anywhere else without people worshiping Krishna in the West. ys pd

PADA worldwide readership is -- up again!

PADA: Since our sister site -- -- has been updated, with a link section for this blog, readership on both sites has increased in 2015. We are also getting nice questions from all over the place on "the issues" and -- getting brand new readers who tell us from time to time "I just found out about you folks only a few weeks ago, and thank God I did." 

We also have people living inside ISKCON temples who report they are reading our materials, and some are writing us from time to time. Meanwhile the GBC itself is having to say, Srila Prabhupada is the main link we have to Krishna, more or less our idea. 

At the same time our "original books" idea is increasing, even within the official ISKCON movement. Meanwhile the GBC itself is having a big cat fight with "the moderates" challenging Hrdayananda, which itself means that they do not have any acharyas because acharyas do not have to challenge and fight with one another for deviations.

At the same time, the problem we were having with HKC Jaipur seems to be dwindling down to almost nil, since they recently announced that PADA was right the whole while, they have been promoting Kali Chelas into the vaishnava community and creating an unwarranted disturbance and artificial schism for no good reason. Good admission. They should try to work out their differences and move on, we need to save the conditioned souls and forget about these Kali Chelas who are promoting Hitler etc. 

Meanwhile, various Prabhupadanuga programs have been expanding and making more people interested in our idea. Meanwhile, more of the GBC gurus are being rejected and our idea is rising up. So overall, much progress has been made this year and we hope to make even more next year in 2016. ys pd

Sanskrit loved by NASA

Jesus wants me to have $65M jet!

[PADA: It always amazes us how so many people think that what they are doing is "what God wanted" when its not clear God was ever consulted? Hee hee. ys pd]  

I want one too!

Saturday, December 26, 2015

Dayalu Nitai / HKC Jaipur -- Letter on Cooperation

From: Dayalu Nitai Das

To: Mahesh Raja
Cc: Raghava Pandit Das
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2015, 13:57
Subject: Re: Bhakta das

Dear Mahesh Raja Prabhu,

All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Please accept my humble obeisances.

What to speak of taking donation, I do not even know how he (Bhakta Dasa) looks like (as I have never even seen his photograph what to speak of meeting him in person). I do not even know his profile neither I have had any interaction with him online. I have just heard about this name from some other devotees who keep telling me that Puranjan Das is trying to associate me and HKC with Bhakta Dasa and some other names which I do not even remember now.

PADA: Correct. Prahlad das placed a link to the Bhakta das' video on his own site (the actual video was part of Mukunda UK's video site) and a number your HKC Jaipur people were sending me (and others) links to that video, i.e. your HKC folks were informing me to listen to Bhakta das (who is one of the worst critics of the Prabhupadanugas on the planet -- and he supports various GBC's gurus). 

So this is how your HKC Jaipur is linked to Bhakta das, Prahlad is advertising and your own HKC congregation have been following Prahlad and also advertising Bhakta's speaking on video.

In addition, Prahlad has been promoting an essay from Hari Sauri's writings -- where HS has been saying me and Sulochana are sahajiyas. Sulochana himself said Hari Sauri's writings are intentionally demonizing us -- to get us killed. And Sulochana was killed by this program. In addition, Hari Sauri still is -- and has been all along -- Bhavananda's bucket boy for several decades.

Prahlad basically copied and pasted HS writings onto his own site, raising the question, why is he even reading Hari Sauri's writings, what to speak of promoting? And why is Prahlad promoting the same identical writings Sulochana said -- would get him killed? 

Prahlad is promoting the same exact people Sulochana said would get him killed and apparently -- did get him killed, and your HKC folks are promoting the same Prahlad? Why are we working hand in glove with the same people Sulochana said -- are trying to get him killed? And won't that get more of us killed? And is this the plan? Or what? And again, your own HKC people have been advertising the Prahlad link to HARI SAURI's writings.

In sum, why are we promoting the same people Sulochana says -- have been demonizing him to get him killed, and apparently did get him killed? Sulochana died fighting for Srila Prabhupada, and so we should advertise the same writers and writings he said are aimed at -- getting him killed by demonizing him? All you folks are doing with this process is -- placing others in danger by advertising the writings that demonize the Prabhupadanugas. Could that not result in more violence against MORE Prabhupadanugas? Is that what we want?

The Hari Sauri / Bhavananda program is, in the opinion of many of us, in large part responsible for much the child abuse that took pace after 1977. Why are Prahlad and HKC folks promoting the same exact people who -- many feel -- are responsible for creating the abuse infrastructure? 

Prahlad and HKC folks say they are against the child abuse process, then they turns around and advertise for the writings of the same identical people who self - apparently aided and abetted that process? OK HKC Jaipur is against child molesting, but is in favor of the cheer leaders for the program that orchestrates abuse and worse -- is promoting one of the biggest writers for that deviant regime. Why are your people doing that?

A few people have said to me -- that is because Prahlad is a spy for the evil doers and he is planting their writings into the Prabhupadanugas. What do you think?

Prahlad also posted that our taxi driving money is sinful, so he is attacking Sulochana because Sulochana was being partially funded with our taxi money. In fact, we were one of his main contributors, since he had no job. Of course Jayananda was also a taxi driver, for years!

Why is Prahlad always attacking our great saints like Jayananda and Sulochana all the time, saying their income is sinful? Srila Prabhupada was glad to take Jayananda's taxi money! And we have asked about this problem for years, and yet you are not aware that your own folks are doing this, and acting as agents of your HKC Jaipur program? 

It appears Prahlad simply does not want folks like Sulochana to have any funds, so his program would fail, and the GBC thinks the same. Great minds think alike? Sulochana was eating canned beans, and Prahlad is envious that Sulochana even had that much to eat? 

Prahlad wanted Sulochana to starve, and -- die? Why are your people always on the same page as Tamal and Kirtanananda, they also wanted no one to support Sulochana? I also printed Sulochana's papers with my own money and was the first to put his writings on our original web sites around 1995. Why does Prahlad attack the people who supported Sulochana and were the first to place his writings online? He is not happy these works became public, well neither are the GBC's goondas?

Oddly, now Prahlad says his former hero Bhakta das is a Kali Chela, with no explanation why he has been promoting Bhakta das for years together? Nor has Prahlad das or your HKC folks apologized for trying to get people to listen to Bhakta das in the first place?

Oddly, now Prahlad ALSO says his other former "great preacher" Mukunda is another Kali Chela for promoting "pro-Hitler" videos, again no explanation why he told us formerly that Mukunda is doing good preaching work? Nor does Prahlad explain why he opposed me when I said Mukunda's program is too mundane political?

Anyway! So I asked your HKC member folks, "Why are these dubious items being promoted in the devotee's community (apparently in the name of the HKC)"?

That was and still is my question. Simply stated, people like Bhakta das and Hari Sauri are not considered as reputable sources. And Mukunda's pro-Hitler plan is also suspect. Bhakta das has in fact said the ritviks are cancerous tumors. Anyway this is partially good, Prahlad for his part is now saying Bhakta das, Hari sauri, and his previous hero Mukunda das are ALL Kali chelas, but again no explanation why he and the other HKC folks have been promoting Bhakta das and Prahlad's apparent other Kali chelas not only in public, but also to me. 

I was telling HKC folks and Prahlad the whole time their people had major problems ... 

Yet, despite my many warnings, your HKC folks wanted us to listen to these sources, so I will also join the idea that ritviks are cancerous? Why are your HKC people sending me and others this material -- at all? Bhakta says the ritviks are cancer tumors, and Prahlad and your folks are promoting him, how does that help the ritviks? Worse, Bhakta says Radhanath is a great saintly man. Why are your folks allowing the HKC program to be connected to all this? And yes, this is the same question we have asked your folks now for several years.

Now of course, you may not be aware that some of the people in your group have been advertising and e-mailing these things, but we have pointed this out a long time ago and not heard from you or your deputies. And if there is a problem with ISKCON Bangalore (IB) not communicating, you folks seem to have the same problem, or worse, sort of like the frog in the well in reverse. Your guys are not even aware of what is inside your own well, not to speak of what is going on outside.

In sum, I have not heard anything from you about any of this. And worse, some of your HKC members said that I was "meditating on homosexuals" when I pointed out that the essay the HKC members are promoting is from Hari Sauri's guru group, which contains homosexual acharyas. Amazingly, Kirtanananda's people also told me I was "meditating on homosexuals" when I asked them the same question. It seems your people are parroting GBC-isms? And why are your people meditating on the writers for the homosexual acharyas? And when will this be answered properly?

And so I simply asked, "Why are you HKC folks promoting Hari Sauri's writings"? And your people had no proper answer to the issue then or now, and neither did the GBC handle this issue properly. I am asking why members of your group are promoting the writings of a big leader in the homosexual guru regime, and your folks say -- I should not meditate on homosexuals? 

That is what the GBC folks also say, anyone who asked was "mediating on homosexuals." We need to do better in 2016. And incidentally, off putting these issues is how all these problems went on. You guys really need to answer this question, why are your folks promoting the writings of the biggest cheer leaders of Bhavananda and the molester messiahs program?]

DN: Anyway, you will be happy to know that after lot of efforts finally we (Hare Krishna Village) are moving towards a full fledged Varnasrama Community working as per Srila Prabhupada’s desire and instructions. Already around 40-50 devotees are living there as brahamcharis, grihasthas & vanprasthas and everyone is working either as a brahmin, Ksatriya, Vaisya or Sudra co-operatively for the service of the Lord. Since this is daivi Varnasrama these devotees are just playing these roles but most of them except some Vaisya Community devotees are chanting 16 rounds and following other rules given by Srila Prabhupada.Some standard of K.C (like chanting 4-5 rounds and following some rules) are even being followed by the employees (sudras) here.

[PADA: OK and IB folks are also making many projects where people are chanting and following Prabhupada. And when we discuss various things with the IB rank and file followers as we do on a regular basis -- including newer people -- they write me with very intelligent inquiries about Krishna and Prabhupada, which means they have a good idea about the siddhanta, so they are being trained nicely. 

I do not see why you seem to think only your people are chanting and following, and no one else is? Nor do any of your people ever write me with any siddhanta discussions, ever. If they had, this whole Bhakta das issue never would have happened at all.

However one thing we immediately notice, NONE the Bangalore people would EVER send me links to Bhakta das' videos and / or Hari Sauri's writings -- like your HKC people have done with me -- over and over and over and over and over. Why? Because the IB folks are being better trained, thus they ALREADY know that GBC groupies like Bhakta dasa are deviants and not persons to be cited. 

This raises the question, why are the IB people NOT EVER sending me links to Bhakta das and Hari Sauri, while your people are, and Prahlad and your HKC folks sent me these links repeatedly like a broken record? What kind of training are they getting over there?

Or are they being trained by people like Prahlad and you are not supervising them? Or have you made Prahlad your de facto personnel trainer, or what? How did this happen, your own people are promoting two of the worst GBC guru apologists on the planet, and you are not aware of this? Or you do not care? Or you agree that we should promote the GBC's cheer leaders? Or what?

Well jeepers, all sorts of things go on in GBC land, and they are not aware of anything either? You should try to become more aware of what is going on with your own program and people, or your self appointed spokesmen like Prahlad. If not, then it might become a public brouhahaha, as it has. The GBC has no clue what is going on, and you also do not?]

DN: Now our gurukul has 2 children from Russia, and 2 more are coming from Germany in March,one boy who is a son of a big politician in this area has also joined our Varnasrama College recently which has become a big news amongst local people here.

By the grace of Srila Prabhupada, now we also have 2 customized bullock carts which are going in nearby villages (packed up with our devotees) doing Harinam and distributing prasadam etc.This is having a great effect on the villagers and the media (T.V and newspaper) is also covering it very favorably which is making the people more inclined to accept K.C philosophy.

[PADA: I Bangalore folks are doing similar things, and they are always getting good media coverage. You are not the exclusive group making programs and getting media publicity, but its good that you are. Bravo.]

DN: We are also utilizing the bulls for transportation, sankirtan, running some chara (cow fodder) cutting and grinding machines, agriculture etc. This is all being done by Vaisya Community devotees who are also trading many products like Organic Jaggery, Go-Ark, Ghee, milk from our Goshala etc. which is all being manufactured here with the help of some local villagers who are employed as sudras by these Vaisya devotees.

These vaisya devotees are being managed and being provided all resources by ksatriya devotees and the vaisya devotees are giving 25% of their income as tax to ksatriyas as per Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. Brahmin devotees are teaching and guiding the ksatriya devotees. Matajajis are cooking, stiching, taking care of small children and training other matajis in chastity, cooking and cleanliness and everyone is chanting Hare Krishna and worshiping Srila Prabhupada as their spiritual master.

Everyone is also going through the Bhakti Shastri course where exams are conducted on the original books of Srila Prabhupada. This way everyone is studying Srila Prabhupada’s books seriously and except a few everyone is scoring very high in all the tests. This is one of Srila Prabhupada’s desire which we are trying to execute here exactly as he has instructed. Bhakti Shastri course as per Srila Prabhupada’s desire and extensively studying Srila Prabhupada’s books and are scoring very good marks etc. etc.


[PADA: And many similar projects are being done by IB, including our local Sunnyvale program.]

DN: Some senior devotees like Prahlad Prabhu from England and Mathura Pati Prabhu from Germany visit almost every year here with other devotees and stay sometimes for months together.

[PADA: OK well we said Prahlad has been posted by you as one of your seniors, and you just confirmed he still is.]

DN: Other senior Prabhupadanugas like Kansahanta Prabhu (U.K),

[PADA: Kamsahanta das was the person saying I was wrong to make the BBTI lawsuit with Hansadutta for the legal rights for original books. Do you agree with me, that he was wrong to do that? Why should we not have the legal rights to original books? And why does Kamsahanta never tell me why we should not? 

And why would Prahlad attack us, knowing we are part of the 1997 BBTI lawsuit and we have advertised for original books all the while, and helped get the legal rights to print these books? Kamsahanta also tried to stop me from introducing the poison issue. Why has Kamsahanta tried to throttle back the changed books and poison issue? I forgot, he told me these lawsuits will make the GBC lose their buildings, which means he wants to make sure the molester messiahs have nice houses!

If you are working with these people, should you not also try to be aware of their positions on these issues? Kamsahanta told me in 1997 that the poison issue would take away the GBC's buildings, great, we need to keep Hrdayananda and JPS in a big house? Why?

You should make some sort of declaration that our idea for the original books is the right path, as is our expose of the poison issue. We never actually see where you stand on any of these issues? If Kamsahanta is your other de facto spokesman, he has been against our original legal rights book plan and the poison issue, and he has not explained why. Ever!]

Gauri Das Pandit Prabhu (U.S),

[PADA: Gauri das has wrote a number of times that he is for the Bangalore program and he wants them to win their lawsuit etc. He does not want to join your public attack on Bangalore and he simply does not agree with your strategy of publicly attacking IB. He wants IB to win and be a success. Ask him. Several devotees have complained you are using the names of people as your supporters, when they are not necessarily.]

DN: Sunder Gopal Prabhu (Singapore) and Gokul Chand Prabhu (NZ), Prahlad Bhakta Prabhu (Pond., India) have visited once and are likely to visit again on the coming Gaur Poornima with many other foreign devotees for the Prabhupadanugas festival. These devotees can share their first hand experience with other devotees around the world for their pleasure, guidance and support.

For other Prabhupadanuga devotees who may not be able to visit here , I will soon be putting up a documentry film (which we will keep updating as things improve here -- hopefully -- by Krishna’s grace and the blessings and support of Prabhupadanuga devotees around the world) and also send it to them. This documentry will have Srila Prabhupada’s instructions on Varnashrama and how these instructions are being practically implemented here. This we will show with the help of photographs, video clips, interviews of devotees staying here etc..

[PADA: All good, bravo.]

DN: We will also put our future plans as per Srila Prabhupada’s instructions in this documentry film for the pleasure and guidance of all Prabhupadanugas. We will welcome any advise or constructive criticism based on Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and will try to improve or set things right if we are going wrong anywhere.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada said he wanted us to cooperate, that is one of his prime orders.]

DN: I and other devotees were very busy in getting this whole thing together to the current stage (which miraculously came to the present stage in just last 6 months which in normal course would have taken years). Since I was very busy therefore I did not get time to check my facebook or e-mail accounts or other comments on the internet.

Now, also Raghav Pandit Prabhu (full time senior brahamchari and secretary at HKC) told me to check my mail box and some threads on facebook since there is some confusion / discussion going on amongst senior Prabhupadanugas regarding Tim Lees comments and my not being present on the internet (on behalf of HKC) to answer them, Co-opeartion between IB group and HKC, Importance of Varnashrama etc.

[PADA: Ok so you are well aware of the controversy but have not tried to resolve it, nor did you depute anyone to try to deal with this.]

DN: So, I have answered some things regarding activities of HKC going on here with respect to Varnashrama. Obviously youth preaching, book distribution etc. is going in full swing in Jaipur under the guidance of Raghav Pandit Prabhu. Now the boys who are coming in contact with us have many options to live with the devotees as Brahmanas, Ksatriyas or Vaisyas and can choose whatever ashrama is suitable for them. “Sthane Sthithe Shruti Gatam”.

They are not dependent on the temple for their livelihood. Otherwise mostly Iskcon and other groups have just one option that become brahamchari or if you cannot remain brahamchari then get married and everyone collect donations to run the temple or take salary or remuneration if not inspired otherwise to collect donations.

So those boys/devotees who do not feel inspired or cannot fit in this profile are dragged to work for karmis for their livelihood who make them work so hard and with no devotee association there K.C life gets finished and their children are also sent to these karmi schools (slaughterhouses) but with this Varnashram model anyone who wants to live simply and practice K.C can come, that is what we are experiencing here. Even their children are growing up in this K.C atmosphere and getting trained in gurukul so a whole next generation of devotees is being created and they are being saved from going to slaughterhouses of this modern education system. It is really wonderfull!!

[PADA: OK IB is doing similar programs.]

DN: Also I think that there was some talk about cooperation between Prabhupadanugas, earlier also I (on behalf of HKC devotees) was fully in favour of it and now also I am fully for it. Whatever is required like forming a committee or talking to IB group, even if it requires going to their place. Even if MPP is very busy, I can talk to CPP at his time at his place. I mean to say I am ready to do anything for co-operation if it pleases Srila Prabhupada and his sincere disciples (my respectable Godbrothers).

l will personally also check out more things on prabhuadanugas and with other devotees and answer them as and when I get time.For the time being I can only say that there is nothing to worry rather there are many things to feel joyful about as many of Srila Prabhupada’s desires regarding establishing Varnashrama Communiites is coming true. This is just a small endeavor here and an example which will trigger off many such communities all over the world. Here many of the Varnasharma College boys who are being trained up nicely are capable of establishing such communities once their training is completed.

I am sending a copy of this reply to Raghav Pandit Prabhu also who is in Jaipur (I am at Hare Krishna Village currently which is around 70-80 Kms. from Jaipur) so that he can remain updated and answer queries of other devotees in case I am not available due to some urgent services going on here.

I will be at your service to clear any of your doubts.

your servant (in the service of Srila Prabhupada’s original unadulterated instructions),
Dayalu Nitai Das.

[PADA: There is another issue that Prahlad and your group has attacked us, and that is that in 1997 some of the ex-gurukula abuse victims were (A) committing suicide, and there was a growing epidemic of this problem. (B) Several hundred other children were in critical situations in the "care" of the same people who made these problems and (C) Some 13 year old girls were being married to older men (according to some of them who are now PADA friends) etc.

So there were many problems with these children and we helped them with a lawsuit, and this lawsuit: (A) Slowed the suicides to almost nothing, (B) Forced  the issue so parents had to take 100s of their kids out of the GBC controlled programs and (C) Forced parents to take their young girls out of the GBC controlled projects -- so they did not get married to older men. OK we saved lives here, some people lived and others were saved from potential abuse.

Yet Prahlad, as well as many of the members of your HKC, have said that our saving and helping these kids was wrong, i.e. they wanted the suicides, apparent ongoing molesting infrastructure, and bogus marriages etc. to continue. Why does Prahlad and the HKC folks support the idea that this abuse should not have been halted? 

I hate to have to report this, but not stopping abuse is a criminal offense even for the karmis. Why are your HKC folks saying all these crimes against children should not be stopped? Are you aware that your folks idea, that we are wrong to curtail abuse, is against the law? So your guys plan was to increase the suicides, continue the abuse infrastructure, and that would have been another major newspaper story eventually anyway! 

You cannot allow more and more people to die and / or be abused and expect the media will never get wise to that!

I am amazed to hear that Prahlad and your HKC folks said that the suicides, abuse infrastructure, and bogus marriages program etc. should be allowed to go on indefinitely, and not be suppressed -- as we did? Of course that makes HKC on board with what Tamal also wanted? Apart from that, your idea is ILLEGAL, abuse programs have to be stopped, that is the law. That is because the law knows how to treat children WAY BETTER THAN YOU HKC FOLKS!

We also know Prahlad / HKC and co. were never going to make any sort of help or lawsuit and they never did even up to now. Again, lets be clear, this begs the question, why does Prahlad, and many HKC Jaipur members, want the program of children committing suicide, being potentially molested, and being married to much older men etc. to continue "henceforward" forever? Is this the basis of a human society?

And if you want to start your own society, fine, but what kind of society wants to see abuse continued and not checked -- as we did at least check it to a large extent? Prahlad is perhaps the biggest defender of child abusers on the planet, he says stopping this abuse is all wrong, and he says that all the time. As many kulis have told me, people like Prahlad are defenders of child abusers, and as such, he should not be listed as one of your speakers and seniors.

And the other HKC joined with Prahlad and objected to this abuse program being halted? Of course Prahlad argues that these children were offenders who hated the religion, well no kidding, Prahlad says he represents the religion and he wants them to die and their abuse to continue. 

No wonder they are upset with the religion! 

He is purposefully causing them to be upset with the religion by his idea that he wants suicides, molesting and bogus marriages of children to continue on -- with nothing stopping it. They hate him, and that makes them hate Krishna, because he is claiming to be Krishna's agent. He is part of the cause of their bad attitudes towards the religion. Why are you advertising this person as your senior man? He is the person causing these children to hate Krishna, and he is your spokesman?

And as a number of kulis have asked me, why do people like Prahlad hate children so much -- they want us children to die? And this begs the question, why are HKC Jaipur people promoting Prahlad and his anti-children program, where he is openly saying that suicides, molesting and bogus marriages should not be halted? And why don't these HKC folks know that dead children is not the way forward, when even the karmis know that is not the way forward?

As for "harming the reputation of the religion," right, people like Prahlad who want to see children suffer death and abuse are the entire reason the religion has a bad name in the first place.

Anyway! Somehow or other this is all connected to you, because Prahlad is your senior man, according to you. Many HKC folks also cited Prahlad while writing to me, proving he is acting as a de facto administrator of YOUR program. Meanwhile, Prahlad NOW admits in public that the people he has been promoting like his Bhakta das video, Hari Sauri's writings and pro-Hitler Mukunda etc. are AGENTS OF KALI YUGA. Kali chelas. So you and your HKC are associated with a person who openly admits he has been promoting KALI CHELAS. Sorry, you guys should explain all this, especially since I was warning all of you for years this was going on!

If you are not aware of this, you should be. Meanwhile HKM Jaipur has sent me a nice video of their program, which looks like its packed with nice people. I do not think all these people are doing the wrong thing because this program, the Bangalore program (you can see on Web TV) and going on so very nice. 

Attacking their program is not helping matters, in fact its helping the GBC. And when it comes to discrimination, clearly the Bangalore folks are several billion light years ahead of your guys, when your guys are still saying child abusers need to go unchecked with no process to contain them. And the HKC still has done nothing for these victims and they never will. All the HKC does is say its wrong for me to contain child abuse, making your program look very bad indeed, if not illegal!

I tried to help you with the Nimai Pandit program and I was advertising your program up to then. However, since MPD is now in the Supreme Court taking on the GBC, its important not to give credibility to his enemies as you folks are doing all the time by trying to knee-cap MPD. This is simple common sense, we need to establish that Srila Prabhupada is the acharya in courts and no one else is doing that except MPD. And no one else maybe ever will do that. So we need to focus on the priority, and that is, to establish who is the legal acharya of the ISKCON society.

Now as far as MPD is concerned, it seems your group is doing everything they can to alienate him from your group. For example, your group started all kinds of foolish propaganda that IB is deviating, and is connected to the IBM / Ford Motor/ Bill Clinton / Bill Gates / Monsanto / new world order cabal. Ooops! Except, Srila Prabhupada himself sold his books and took donations from even animal slaughterhouse workers, and he never said we have to select which persons can or cannot fund our mission?

Srila Prabhupada never made this a big issue, and your guys made it the biggest issue. So I should not have a taxi job, MPD should only take donations from vegetarian animal shelters, ok we cannot function like that -- and this is not how Srila Prabhupada operated. 

Apart from that, MPD is in court dealing with the GBC, trying to prove that Srila Prabhupada is the acharya, and just at that moment you guys decide to make a full scale attack on him and demonize him, knowing this program of demonizing can get our people killed? All you guys did was raise a huge cheer from the GBC guru program, they said well done, bravo, you are helping -- us! The person trying to prove in court that Srila Prabhupada is the acharya, is the person we should demonize and jeapardize? Why? Who does that help, apart from Radhanath's program?

As far as I recall what started all this was that HKC was mis-using a photo of MPD? Anyway, I could try to negotiate something on your behalf, but you need to look into what is being done in your name by your pal Prahlad, his associates, and HKC folks who support him. 

And you need to make clear your position on some of these issues we are forwarding if you want to make peace with us. If you are the leader of all this, then you are responsible for all these things. If you want to work things out with MPD, you'll need to start by taking down all your web sites attacking him and his program. As for me, well if you want to dialogue, fine, lets see what we can do. And if you have a sensible program for peace and want me to forward that to MPD on your behalf, I will try to help. ys pd

PS: I am very glad all this has come out like this, its always good to give our readers a short history lesson on these events. ys pd


Thanks prabhu, How is this connected to HKC Jaipur? Well Dayalu Nitai wrote very recently that Prahlad is a senior member of his group. That means Dayalu is openly saying, the person who admits he is promoting various Kali Chelas (and / or supporters of the molester messiahs program) are senior persons in the HKC Jaipur program, according to Dayalu himself. Now Prahlad admits he is promoting various spokesmen for the Kali Chelas program, which molests children, kills devotees and poisons pure devotees, that is when they are not promoting Stalin. This is a powerful admission on their part. Prahlad finally admits -- he is trying to force others to bow down to his Kali Chelas authorities, and the good news is, PADA put a big crimp in Prahlad's Kali Chelas program, of course we have crimped their program the whole while. Now you know why there has been so many violent banning and molesting programs and etc. going on, people have stood with the Kali Chelas and not those of us driving that program out. You got it! I also just met another Bangalore person, a new guy, and he gets this stuff immediately, you cannot promote Kali Chelas, its amazing that so many HKC folks have no idea that is the correct process after all these years, when Bangalore folks get it in two seconds. So this is all good, we are moving ahead on all this. And yes, Dayalu says that Prahlad is a senior in his group, which confirms what we said all along. ys pd


Yes prabhu, you are correct, congratulations to Prahlad are in order. He first of all told us (A) that Mukunda is doing great preaching, now he says Mukunda is a Kali Chela pro-Hitler fool. Prahlad also said (B) we all have to listen to his Bhakta das video, now he says Bhakta das is another low class Kali chela fool. Prahlad also cited Hari Sauri's book as his history authority, and now (C) he too is another Kali chela fool. That means Prahlad is finally admitting, he has been promoting and listening to people, which he himself admits are -- Kali Chelas, and its only because of us at PADA pointing that out to him -- which is helping him get out of these illusions and save himself from his Kali Chela associations! Right, we told him these people are bogus, and he is finally accepting that PADA was right the whole time! I am glad he has finally agreed that we were right and he has surrendered to our points regarding these individuals, better late than never! Yep, even we have to agree with Prahlad, he is totally correct, he wanted all of us to listen to his Kali Chela fools, and we showed him the right path, to reject these Kalis Chelas, and he has accepted our idea. Yes, congratulations, Prahlad is with PADA on these issues! I will write separately to Dayalu nitai about these points and lets see if we can progress to some sort of overall peace pipe agreement. ys pd