Thursday, November 14, 2019

Subhag Swami Approves of Original Books


Srila Prabhupada's original book ki jay!

Last week Krsna Avatara prabhu and I was outside the gate of Sri, Sri Krsna Balarama Madeira distributing Srila Prabhupada's original books. Around 2 Srimad Bhagavatam sets, 1 CC set, 8 Krsna-book sets, 15 Bhagavad gitas, a few SP DVD set and many medium and small books. So many devotees gave their mental support and encouragements. 


H.H. Subhaga Maharaja stood at our table for half and hour and glorified SP original books, our humble service and gave us his blessings. We made many new friendships and one of them will now be distributing the books all year from their shop close to the temple. Here is the shop address: 

Vrndavan Forex & travel PVT. shop no lg-10 Hare Krsna residency MVT street.

Wednesday, November 13, 2019

Help Needed to Complete "GBC Blunders" List (Nadiya Sasadhara Das)

By: Nadiya sasadhara Das Posted on November 11, 2019

Recently the GBC passed a resolution permitting female diksha gurus (FDG’s) in ISKCON on 15th October 2019. It came as a great surprise and anguish to many. Surprise, because they did not properly discuss the issue, especially with the ISKCON India leaders who had requested for a dialogue on FDG with the GBC before any resolution on it. 


India contains 80% – 90% of the total number of ISKCON devotees in the world, so by not involving Indian leaders in this decision, the GBC effectively excluded 80 – 90% of ISKCON from this process. And anguish, as Srila Prabhupada’s vision of ISKCON establishing Varnasrama, although largely ignored all these years by the GBC seemed to now have been decidedly abandoned by it with this action, thus putting us (ISKCON) in spiritual peril due to guror avajna.

In December 2013 the GBC EC released a document on Dandavats (a GBC owned website) which they termed; ‘A GBC Foundational Document’, authored by Ravindra Svarupa Dasa, a member of the GBC (but retired since 2014). The GBC said that they fully endorsed the document. In the beginning of this document is a note from the GBC EC which elaborates on the position of Srila Prabhupada as the founder acharya and in a central role in the movement and stated that keeping Srila Prabhupada in that position in our movement is the main purpose of this document.

However, we find later on that the document also contains statements to the effect that the GBC is not just the highest managerial authority in ISKCON but also the spiritual successor to Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada is the founder acarya of ISKCON and thus his teachings are (or should be) the main instruction for guiding the movement.

So the GBC saying that it is the spiritual successor to Srila Prabhupada means that it should be following Srila Prabhupada on all philosophical points and spiritual decisions. We have seen though that this is not the case. Also, consider the following points:


The GBC has shown over the years that their decisions are unfortunately very often not based on Srila Prabhupada’s books and teachings and also not based on Guru, Sadhu and Sastra (see list given below this article).

Srila Prabhupada disbanded the GBC at least once for their incompetence. 

After Srila Prabhupada’s time all the GBC members were reviewed for qualifications of their roles in 1987, after some of them had difficulties in their spiritual practice.

The GBC has made serious errors and thus caused serious problems within ISKCON, many of them still plaguing our society.

Srila Prabhupada formed the GBC for managing ISKCON and overseeing spiritual standards he set and never said that their say in spiritual issues should be followed. It makes sense that for spiritual matters guidance should be taken from spiritually elevated and sastrically inclined devotees who may or may not be on the GBC.

We are not saying that we are perfect and never make mistakes. Everyone except perfectly liberated souls makes mistakes from time to time (Bg 15.16). However we have to realize our position and not try and place ourselves on a higher position than we are thus causing confusion and difficulties in the society of devotees. 


We should especially not try and usurp the place of Srila Prabhupada. It is also imperative that a body with as much responsibility as the GBC with an important function in ISKCON and the global Vaisnava society, constantly observe their actions and decisions and assess whether they are indeed traveling on the course that they set out to.

Srila Prabhupada setup the GBC for governing ISKCON, but considering the first three points above, how can we accept any guidance from the current GBC anymore? It should be noted that we are not opposed to the institution of the GBC per say but rather we are opposed to its improper functioning. In 1986 after three members of the GBC fell down from spiritual practice a fifty man committee was convened in the next meeting in 1987 to assess the remaining members and their capacity for carrying out their duty as GBC members. 


Therefore we see that the idea of holding the GBC accountable is not unprecedented. Even before that Srila Prabhupada disbanded the GBC at least once, no doubt due to its improper functioning.

For the attention of the devotees, and to elaborate on my points above we have included a list below which chronicles the numerous deviations, misconceptions and blunders that the GBC has been promoting, carrying out or neglecting to correct. Research into this area uncovered an alarming amount of deviations, personal agendas, neglect and incompetence that resulted in serious problems in ISKCON today, most of which are still plaguing our society. 


Even the main task of the GBC which was to oversee and maintain spiritual standards has largely been abandoned with many GBC members themselves displaying gross violations of conduct such as sannyasis closely associating with women, maintaining luxurious apartments in the Vrindavan and Mayapur dhams, introducing mundane welfare work etc.

Has the time now come to disband the GBC, assess the qualification of its members and its mission as given by Srila Prabhupada? 


I would think so, and judging from the increasing volume of articles published on online websites and social networks wherein devotees are now expressing their dissatisfaction en mass with the GBC as well as the growing list of their deviations, it seems like a lot of devotees in ISKCON also think the same way. I let the reader judge for himself though after studying the list below and seeing the seriousness of the situation.

We now begin a three part serial presentation on deviations, misconceptions and blunders by the GBC showing the scale of the damage done. Herein, we will publish a total of 63 entries of the above in three parts. This list of the first twenty appears below.

There is an English saying that ‘a problem realized is half the problem solved’. We appeal to concerned devotees to forward any entries that they feel are not on this list including the dates and relevant details so that we can cover everything and begin collectively seeing the next course of action towards getting back our purity by returning to an ISKCON with a leadership based strictly on Srila Prabhupada’s books (as he desired). We urge everyone to participate. This is for the future of our movement. Please send your entries to; Nadiya sasadhara Das


[magicblue27@yandex.com].


The Robin George lawsuit. (1976)


The GBC is unbalanced in that it gives too much weight to the unproductive and regressive zones like North America (GBC NA) so that their failed policies are pushed on India and rest of the world, like Russia, which is now having the same problems. (1977 to the present)

Supporting so many fallen GBCs, Gurus, Sannyasis, even with evidence in hand that should have spurred action; (Kirtanananda, Jayatirtha, Hansadutta, Bhavananda, Hridayananda, Radhanath, Sacinandana… The list is very large and across 40 years); (1977 - present).

Not giving proper importance to the gurukula system thus allowing rampant child abuse to take place and killing the soul of ISKCON children. (1977)

The ongoing deplorable child abuse situation; (1977 to date)

Mismanaging the Hyderabad farm such that by not following Srila Prabhupada’s specific instruction (he really knew trust law) we ended up losing 525 acres of land which is now prime land worth several crores/acre. (1977 to the present).

Pradyumna Prabhu, Srila Prabhupada’s Sanskrit editor, wrote a letter to the GBC warning them not to imitate Srila Prabhupada and do what turned out to be the Zonal Acarya fiasco. Not only was he ignored but the GBC sent a group of “Storm Troopers” headed by Hrdayanand das Goswami to verbally and politically attack him and succeeded in driving him out of Vrndavana and ISKCON. The predictions in his letter came out to be true to the letter and in 1998, 20 years after the fact and after all the damage was done they the sent him a letter of apology. (1977 – 78)

Politicking to bring B.V. Narayan in as Acarya; (ended in 1995)

The Zonal Acarya System and their reliance on the July 9th Letter to support it; (1978 -1986)

The Eleven Acarya selection or “Guru Board” constitution/creation in 1978.
The Acarya Committee ; constant changes in definitions, including; definitions of ‘ultimate managing authority’; (1977 to present).

Going to Sridhar Swami of the Gaudiya Math for advice; ( 1978-1982)

Not dealing strongly or in a timely manner with Hrdayananda Das Goswami which has led to a litany of problems. (1980’s to present)

The GBC resolution that Bhavananda could resume initiating if for six months if he wasn’t caught having homosex. (Mid 1980’s)

The sale of the Manhattan Temple, New York, ISKCON’s Flagship temple with 12 storeys (1983).

The Bhavananda scam and vote to retain him as Guru/GBC in (1985)

Totally mismanaging their zones so that in the vast majority of temples in North and South America (other places too) there are more Deities than devotees at mangala arotika when previously the temples were full, and yet wanting to tell other successful zones like ISKCON India how to manage their zones by implementing their same failed policies. (1986 to the present)

Compromising with secular and degenerative modernistic values. (Mid 1990’s to the present).

Creating the GBC deputies, several of whom are women, and who as gate keepers of the GBC strongly determine what the GBC votes on. (mid 1990’s)

Formally using the term “Prabhu” for women in all their work and thus creating unnecessary conflict in ISKCON. (1990’s to date)

Once again the email id to send your entries is; 


Nadiya sasadhara Das

[magicblue27@yandex.com].

Audio to Text Fidelity Project - Vanipedia.org

Audio to Text Fidelity Project - Vanipedia.org

Dear devotees - we are appealing to you to help us complete the Audio to Text verification of all Srila Prabhupada's lectures, morning walks and conversations.

The goal is to present to the world an accurate representation of what Srila Prabhupada spoke, via audio recordings and transcription files made available from the Bhaktivedanta Archives.
If you are interested in helping us to complete this very important service (or know someone who can), please register your interest by joining our Whatsapp group: 

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You can also visit our project page:

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PADA: Do not think for sure if this is all accurate, however this is a step in the direction that is needed. Srila Prabhupada said we need to make our own graphic models and at least this person is attempting to do that. If anyone has the fully correct idea, like Mayesa claims he does, he should make a computer model of the universe and its movements to show us these things. ys pd  

Monday, November 11, 2019

Continued GBC Discussion on Female Diksha Gurus (from PAMHO)

PADA: For starters, a woman devotee wrote to complain to PADA that the proposed ISKCON female diksha gurus -- "have to have her living family members giving her financial support -- and if need be -- physical care support." So she is not going to get a "guru salary" and "guru servants" like the male gurus. Thus a woman  guru and a male guru are both alleged equals as "sum total of the demigods representatives of God," except one gets a salary and one does not? So its the same thing, women are still being repressed even when offered the carrot on a stick of being a co-guru with "the good ole boys." 


"This is misogyny right out of the gate," she protested. 

The female diksha gurus have to be financially secure to attain the post, none of the men have to? Well its simply another one of many items on a long list of complaints about this female diksha guru issue. Another complaint is: that we should not be consulting with "other sampradayas" when we were not ordered to do that. Anyway, it looks like the imbroglio continues on. 

*** Meanwhile no one seems to be able to explain how neophytes can absorb sins as diksha gurus, either male or female not being the main point? 

*** And since guru voting has produced a long line of failed voted in male gurus, why would the GBC fare any better selecting and rubber stamping better female candidates?

*** And wasn't one of the main female guru candidates, Malati dasi, one of the Prithu Putra apparent devil worship program cheer leaders and adherents?

And so on!

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Text PAMHO:31756408 (111 lines) From: Internet: "Srinjaya Dasa" 


<srinjaya.dasa@gmail.com> Date: 10-Nov-19 17:37 +0530 Reply-To: iskcon-india-leaders+owners@googlegroups.com To: iskcon-india-leaders@googlegroups.com Cc: ISKCON India (news & discussion) [10970] (sender: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)) Bcc: ICC (Indian Continental Committee) [9171] (sender: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)) Attached: 31756408.eml (22880 bytes) 

"Original email file" Subject: GBC EC Uses Knowledge Filters and Loaded Dice to push FDG -----------------------------------

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Excerpt: In 2013 the GBC resolved that a four-man committee comprising of Badrinarayana Swami, Bhanu Swami, Bir Krishna Goswami, and Praghosa Prabhu would write a paper on the female diksha guru (FDG) issue in time for the October 2013 interim GBC meeting. No such paper came forward but instead the SAC was secretly tasked to do this. 

The SAC paper was presented in October 2013. But it was not well received and generally lambasted as a "hack job" of incompetents and corrupt persons with a conflict of interest, so much so that out of embarrassment its availability to the public was delayed for a year. 

For reasons why the SAC paper of 2013 is deeply flawed see "*Politically Motivated Wrongdoings of the Sastric Advisory Committee* 


Because the 2013 SAC paper was obviously written with the pre-determined objective of sanctioning Female Diksha Gurus it was clearly biased and not acceptable to any fair minded lover of the truth. It was rejected by many especially the Indian Yatra. 

To deal with this debacle the GBC passed the following resolution in 2014 at the AGM in Mayapura. (Please note the parts I have put in *bold*.) 

321. Female Diksa Gurus The subject of Vaisnavis initiating in ISKCON is further tabled until additional discussion at the 2014 GBC Midterm Meeting. In the meantime the *GBC Executive Committee* [Anuttama, Pragosha and Sesa Prabhus] will work on the following process: 

1. Creating a committee of devotees *who have no pre-determined view on this topic* who will gather documents from *all sources* on the subject of female diksa-gurus. 

2. The committee will sort, summarize, and categorize all documentation. Categories could include Srila Prabhupada's quotations, varnasrama-dharma, history within our sampradaya and other Vaisnava sampradayas, etc. 

3. As far as possible all documentation will be verified for accuracy, authenticity, etc. 

4. As far as possible this committee will do whatever other research may be required. 

5. The committee will then provide all those documents to the GBC members prior to the Midterm meeting. Thus all GBC members will come to the Midterm Meeting well aware of *all the arguments, information, and evidences available. * This will then enable the GBC to make either informed progress or an informed decision on this matter. 

We had extreme doubts about this when we first read this. How, for instance, where are they going to find "devotees who have no pre-determined view on this topic?" That is simply impossible and ridiculous; unless they have been living in a cave in the Himalayas for last 15 years without seeing anyone or having Internet access. 

We simply *do not believe* that it is possible nor do we believe (as we shall demonstrate) that the committee that was put together fit this description. But there is more, there was no transparency, who was this group of devotees? We don't find out until it is a *fait accompli* thus no one can question if they are in fact qualified for the job or actually fit the description of having "no pre-determined view on this topic." 

This secrecy and lack of transparency puts a lot of doubt regarding whether this committee applied a knowledge filter of *confirmation bias* 

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias> in collecting evidence and presenting the GBC with "*loaded dice* 

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice#Loaded_dice>" that came up "pro-FDG" no matter how many times you rolled them. Though the leaders of the Indian Yatra asked the GBC EC for copies of the documents that this so called non-partisan committee gave to the GBC they refused to give it even after repeated requests. Why was the GBC EC not forth coming with these documents if it was just evidence? 

Finally after two months the *GBC EC said* <http://www.dandavats.com/?p=14703> it was now ready to share their database of evidence which was available at the following *link* <http://vdg.iskconinfo.com/home>. 

[This site is designed in such a way that it is extremely difficult to give a link to a specific discussed section, hence the absence of such links. We try our best to point you in the right direction using nested ">" along with the name of the field.] 

Most Important Documents Missing 

5. The committee will then provide all those documents to the GBC members prior to the Midterm meeting. Thus all GBC members will come to the Midterm Meeting well aware of *all the arguments, information, and evidences available. 

* This will then enable the GBC to make either informed progress or an informed decision on this matter. Finally I had a chance to see what the GBC EC had refused to let us see for so long. I took a cursory look using the "one grain of rice test to see if the pot is cooked" method to gauge if this was an honest and fair endeavor. 

So the first thing I did was look for the paper sponsored by the Indian Yatra to counter the pro-FDG paper of 2005 and which the GBC action order 305 (2009) is based on. Continue at: *https://tinyurl.com/ufrmcpj <https://tinyurl.com/ufrmcpj>*====================================

Text PAMHO:31757403 (147 lines)From: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN)
Date: 11-Nov-19 10:34 +0530
To: ICC (Indian Continental Committee) [9173],
IIAC (ISKCON India Advisory Committee) [6199],
ISKCON (India) Bureau Discussions [3870]
Attached: sri_vaishnava_acharyas_on_iskcon_fdg_1.pdf (564771 bytes) "Three
letters - read them all",

other_sampradayas_support_of_iskcon_1.pdf (1492242 bytes) "Past
support from Sri Vaishnavas to ISKCON"
Subject: Regarding the Female Diksha guru issue
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Home Base: ISKCON Baroda
Camp: ISKCON New Delhi

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

Namonamaha. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Recently I was informed that when a GBC member brought up the issue of the
opinion of the Sri Vaishnavas regaring ISKCON allowing female diksha gurus,
during the discussion on the issue at Tirupati, a GBC man -- one of the main
proponents of female diksha gurus -- very vehemently responded that "we do
NOT follow the Sri Vaishnavas, we follow Prabhupada. We are Prabhupada
-anugas!"

[PADA: OK this is actually a good sign. We started writing documents around 1984 saying this is being published by "The Prabhupadanugas," which was really just myself publishing my own materials. Since then, all sorts of people jumped onto the "Prabhupadanuga" name usage, including for a time a paper written for ISKCON by Jnana das which said "Published by The Prabhupadanugas." Hey everyone is ripping off the title we originated at least in print. Forsooth! 

Never mind! 

That is fine, actually we need more of that title's use. Now even ISKCON people are saying they are the "Prabhupadanugas." Take that title and run with it, fine with us! Hee hee! OK that means they are not Radhanath-anugas, Sivarama-anugas and etc. Goody!]

So, I had a discususion about this with Damodar Das, a scholarly devotee,
and the discussion appears, below. He has raised very important and
pertinent points in this regard, that I feel we all need to be aware of.

Please read everything that appears herein below, all the way to the end.
If you do not, you WILL miss something!

Also, attached are two files. One contains letters from three Sri
Vaishnavas, two are well known scholars, and the third is from the direct
descendent of Venkata Bhatta, in who's residence Chaitanya Mahaprabhu stayed
at Sri Rangam for four months. Please do so through both attachments.

This issue will be discussed at the upcoming meetings at Ahmedabad, hence it
is important to know the issue, thoroughly.

Hope this meets you all well.

dasanudas,

Basu Ghosh Das

Facebook: Basu Ghosh Das
Skype: Basu Ghosh Das
WhatsApp: +91-94260-54308

---------- Forwarded Mesage ----------

>> GBC member: *We do not follow Sri Vaisnavas, we follow Prabhupada. We are Prabhupada-anugas!*
>>
>> Response:

>> Sri Vaishnvas have supported ISKCON since Srila Prabhupada’s time.
>
> Sri Vaishnavas performed the Hyderabad temple Deity installation, where
> Prabhupada was personally present, and he was very pleased with how they
> performed the Deity installation rituals.
>
>> Srila Prabhupada would be very displeased that his GBC men have
>> ignored them. [note: meaning the Sri Vaishnavas].
>>
> Indeed.
>
>> We have common shastras: Sri Vaishnavas and Gaudiya Vaishnavas
>> both follow pancharatra shastra and Sri Vaishnavas are expert in them.
>> So, we should hear what they have to say.
>
> In fact ALL vedic shastras, shruti, smriti, puranas, itihasas, like
> Ramayana and Mahabharata, dharma shastras, darshana shastras, etc., are
> common between us. Only the type of worship - the Deities that are
> worshiped, may differ (and may not - we worship Nrsimha, for example, as
> they - Srivaishnavas - do.

======================

Pranam Prabhus,
Sri Sri Guru Gaurangau Jayatah.

Some Reasons why we cannot neglect Sri Vaisnavas:

1. Gauidya Vaisnavism takes 2 points (out of total 8, i.e. 25%) from Sri Vaisnavism. It is said by BVT that Caitanya Mahaprabhu took 2 points from Sri Vaisnavas -- unalloyed surrender and serving devotees, to build acintya bheda-bheda tattva.

2. Mahaprabhu stayed 4 months at Srirangam in Venkat Bhatt's house and
discussed. Remarkably, that's the highest time he stayed anywhere after Puri and Bengal. He did not convert Venkat Bhatt to Gaudiya Vaisnava.

** So Caitanya Mahaprabhu did not neglect Sri Vaisnavas

3. Venkat Bhatta's son Gopala Bhatta, was one of 6-gosvamis and remarkably he was given the task to write gaudiya-vaisnava smrtis:
Hari Bhakti Vilasa and Sat-kriya-sara-dipika, which were supposed to guide gaudiya vaisnavas on what to do and what not to do. The only mention of detailed procedure about initiations that is found in Gaudiya Vaisnava granthas is Hari-bhakti-vilasa (which is not so detailed).

** So Six Gosvamis did not neglect Sri Vaisnavism

4. BVT and Bhakti-siddhanta Sarasvati Thakura minutely studied Sri Vaisnavism and brought the panca-samskara procedure of initiations into Gaudiya Math. Also Tri-dandi sannyasa was brought in to Gaudiya Math from Sri Vaisnavas.

** So BVT (best of Rupanugas) and BSST did not neglect Sri Vaisnavism

5. Srila Prabhupada very extensively quotes Ramanujacarya and acaryas from Sri Sampradaya as authority and has never even indicated that we do not follow them in some aspects. Just search in Vedabase.

** Srila Prabhupada did never neglect Sri Vaisnavism

6. Whenever Srila Prabhupada speaks about sadhu pramana, he gives names of acharyas from other sampradayas. So if we neglect them then we are not taking in to consideration sadhu pramana. We have already rejected sastra pramana by rejecting Narada Pancaratra's statements in this regard. And from Guru pramana (Prabhupada) we have rejected many of his statements (at least one directly from SB 4.12.32). Thus at the max, the GBC resolution depends on 25% of pramans.

7. When there was a need for ISKCON to be identified as bonafide, ISKCON took help from Srirangam's Sri Vaisnava head, Murali Bhattar's father. Why did ISKCON not neglect them at that time? Or was it just a ploy -- just use Sri Vaisnavas for getting on top in India and then throw them away? Something we may do with politicians to get our work done.

8. Okay. Even if we neglect their opinion, there should be some genuine reason to do so. Just saying that we are not Sri Vaisnavas is not a genuine reason. If we say like this then we immediately come in line with bogus sampradayas like Swami Narayana who do not accept other acharyas and even acharyas of Sri Sampradaya. They say that Sahajananda Swami has brought something new and unprecendented to them and thus they are not obliged to follow anyone else. Thus, you cannot discuss anything conclusively with them. They even reject Vyasadeva in ultimate sense.

[Note: Sahajananda Swami was the first to bring FDG in. In their sampradaya women give diksa to women only]

Many more points could be thought of, but that's it for now.

Thank you,

Your servant,

damodara das


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Wider Consequences of Pollution in the Indo-Gangetic Region

Wider Consequences of Pollution in the Indo-Gangetic Region

by Chand Prasad

The Indo-Gangetic Plain is indeed one of the world's most polluted regions, due largely to a combination of industrial activity and post-harvest burning of crop residue, as well as topography, wind flow, and weather patterns. The airborne pollutants from the Indo-Gangetic Region (IGR), coupled with rising global atmospheric temperatures, have been causing the ice in the Himalayas to melt faster. The dirty air from the IGR makes the glacier situation worse by depositing black carbon and dust on the ice, hastening the thaw.

With the exception of the polar regions, the frozen Hindu Kush and Himalayan ranges contain more ice than anywhere else on Earth. The glaciers feed ten of the world's most important river systems, including the Ganges, Indus, Yellow, Mekong and Irrawaddy, and directly or indirectly supply billions of people with food, energy, clean air and incomes.

The Himalayan glaciers have been losing almost half a meter of ice each year since the start of this century— double the amount of melting that occurred between 1975 and 2000. As melting continues, the predicted short term impact is increased flooding, but less ice in the glaciers could ultimately lead to drought. The affected area encompasses approximately 3,500km across Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India, Myanmar, Nepal and Pakistan.

The Afghan/Pakistan region is of high interest to the U.S. military and policymakers. Afghanistan is strategically positioned between Central Asia, the Middle East, and South Asia. About 80% of conflicts in Afghanistan are related to resources like land and water, and to food insecurity—an immediate consequence of global warming, according to the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP). 

For instance in Afghanistan’s Helmand area, water has instigated conflict for decades and been central to foreign intervention since the early cold war, when the United States got involved in irrigation projects. In the coming decades, climate change and growing instability will pose key threats to U.S. strategic interests in the Afghan/Pakistan region.

Geopolitical distractions aside, the solution to all problems of human existence requires embracing spiritual principles that were transmitted by Krishna’s pure representative, Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada. Rather than pleasing the material body, the purposeful end for humanity is to serve Krishna, and having sought this end, all else shall be added unto us.

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Sunday, November 10, 2019

Hanuman Croatia Flip Flops on Poison Issue

https://lastingimpression.info/amplification-and-noise-reduction-on-poisoning-tape/?


PADA: OK (A) first of all Hanuman said this poisoning could not have happened. Then gradually (B) he began to say, it may have happened, but Bhakti Vikas is right to be working as a clone of the poisoner regime -- because there are still sincere persons within their group. 

But now Hanuman says (C) considering all the evidence of poisoning, and the deafening silence of even one of the big leaders who are not protesting or even asking for an investigation, none of these leaders (including Bhakti Vikas swami) could be innocent and sincere. 

Good progress. 

And we especially like his efforts to clear up some of the audio, good job. Yes, overall the evidence needed to be more refined, we agree. However when we first bought the poison tape to a Bengali man in 1997 to help us translate it, he only took a short time to say, "This man was poisoned." The original tape is pretty clear as stand alone evidence. 

Anyway, bravo Hanuman das, you are finally coming to realize what we said all along, none of them are sincere or they would be pounding the table at the GBC meeting demanding an investigation. And they kicked out Dhanesvara for his investigating, and no one came to his defense, because they are all compromised with the poison cadre. 

In sum, they are all eating from the same poisonous guru usurper's cake, and then they are all made into, as Hanuman says -- "brainless zombies." That means Bhakti Vikas swami is one of those zombies. Yup!

The main remaining problem is that Hanuman has said that "anyone who follows Prabhupada" is as good as another Jesus, and he can be a diksha guru and absorb the sins of others -- just like Jesus. OK Hanuman has no clue who someone like Jesus is. And did we forget to mention, the idea that conditioned souls can absorb sins like Jesus is causing the GBC men to fall down, get sick and die from taking sins? He needs a little more adjusting bu he seems to be making progress gradually. Hopefully Hanuman is himself not thinking he is one of the "sincere followers of Prabhupada" who can be another sin absorbing magnet, sum total of the demigods, resident of Vaikuntha etc. 

That would be ritvik-diculous!  

ys pd


Poison isvarya rasa


PADA: Can not agree with everything Dhanesvara says, but he is right when he says, we can judge if something is demoniac by the results.

Saturday, November 9, 2019

ISKM Branch Bangalore


F40, B1 Block, Prabhavathi Elegant, Kumbena Agrahara, Kadugodi

Bangalore, India 560067

+91 98238 05523

[PADA: We wish them good luck. Preaching is the essence, and making programs is required for introducing the siddhanta to the general public. Lets encourage them and see how this all works out over time. People write me all the time asking, "is there a local Prabhupadanuga temple where I am?" Well sorry, almost always the answer is, nope. 

This needs to be done more and more. 

A nice "second generation" type Prabhupadanuga just now called and told me he had to quit going to the ISKCON temple where he is, because they were always pressuring him for money and to do service, and so he could not relax and think of Krishna there. He said if he wants to be depressed he can watch a disaster movie on TV. 

Never mind their bogus guru ideas are very annoying. Yet another person, out of perhaps thousands. who wishes there was a Prabhupadanuga program where he is. Very sad this is not being done more widely. 

If there are updates, other news, or you have your impression of their process, send to: 

angel108b@yahoo.com 

ys pd]


Friday, November 8, 2019

White House's New Pastor: Charlatan or Savior? (The Independent)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/charlatan-saviour-trumps-controversial-pastor-224628027.html

PADA: Not really sure how "prosperity theology" is related to the teachings and life of Jesus? ys pd

Uddhava Visits Vrndavana


While describing the uncommon activities of Kṛṣṇa before Uddhava, Nanda Mahārāja gradually became overwhelmed and could not speak any more. As for mother Yaśodā, she sat by the side of her husband and heard the pastimes of Kṛṣṇa without speaking. She was simply crying incessantly, and milk was pouring from her breasts. 

When Uddhava saw Mahārāja Nanda and Yaśodā so extraordinarily overwhelmed with thoughts of Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and when he experienced their extraordinary affection for Him, he also became overwhelmed and began to speak as follows. "My dear mother Yaśodā and Nanda Mahārāja, you are most respectable among human beings because no one but you can meditate in such transcendental ecstasy."

Both Balarāma and Kṛṣṇa are the original Personalities of Godhead from whom the cosmic manifestation is emanating. They are chief among all personalities. Both of Them are the effective cause of this material creation. Material nature is conducted by the puruṣa incarnations, who are all acting under Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma. By Their partial representation They enter in the hearts of all living entities. They are the source of all knowledge and all forgetfulness also. 

This is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā, Fifteenth Chapter: "I am present in everyone's heart, and I cause one to remember and to forget. I am the original compiler of the Vedānta, and I am the actual knower of the Vedas." If, at the time of death, a person can fix his pure mind upon Kṛṣṇa even for a moment, he becomes eligible to give up this material body and appear in his original spiritual body, just as the sun rises with all illumination. Passing from his life in this way, he immediately enters into the spiritual kingdom, Vaikuṇṭha. This is the result of Kṛṣṇa conscious practice.
If we practice Kṛṣṇa consciousness in this present body while we are in a healthy condition and in good mind, simply by chanting the holy mahā-mantra, Hare Kṛṣṇa, we will have every possibility of fixing our mind upon Kṛṣṇa at the time of death. If that is done, then our life becomes successful without any doubt. Similarly, if we keep our mind always absorbed in fruitive activities for material enjoyment, then naturally at the time of death we shall think of such activities and again be forced to enter into a material, conditioned body to suffer the threefold miseries of material existence. 

Therefore, to remain always absorbed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness was the standard of the inhabitants of Vṛndāvana, as exhibited by Mahārāja Nanda, Yaśodā and the gopīs. If we can simply follow their footsteps, even to a minute proportion, our lives will surely become successful, and we will enter into the spiritual kingdom, Vaikuṇṭha.
"My dear mother Yaśodā and Nanda Mahārāja," Uddhava continued, "you have thus fixed your minds wholly and solely upon that Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa, in His transcendental form, the cause of impersonal Brahman. The Brahman effulgence is only the bodily ray of Nārāyaṇa, and because you are always absorbed in ecstatic thought of Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma, what activity remains to be performed by you? I have brought a message from Kṛṣṇa to the effect that He will soon come back to Vṛndāvana and satisfy you both by His personal presence. 

Kṛṣṇa promised that He would come back to Vṛndāvana after finishing His business in Mathurā. This promise He will surely fulfill. I therefore request you both, who are the best among all fortunates, to be not aggrieved on account of Kṛṣṇa's absence.
"You are already perceiving His presence twenty-four hours a day, and yet He will come and see you very soon. Actually He is present everywhere and in everyone's heart, just as fire is present in wood. Since Kṛṣṇa is the Supersoul, no one is His enemy, no one is His friend, no one is equal to Him, and no one is lower or higher than Him. Actually He has no father, mother, brother or relative, nor does He require society, friendship and love. He does not have a material body; He never appears or takes birth as an ordinary human being. He does not appear in higher or lower species of life like ordinary living entities, who are forced to take birth on account of their previous activities. 

He appears by His internal potency just to give protection to His devotee. He is never influenced by the modes of material nature, but when He appears within this material world, it seems that He acts like an ordinary living entity under the spell of the modes of material nature. In fact, He is the overseer of this material creation and is not affected by the material modes of nature. He creates, maintains and dissolves the whole cosmic manifestation. We wrongly think of Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma as ordinary human beings. 

We are like dizzy men who see the whole world wheeling around them. The Personality of Godhead is no one's son; He is actually everyone's father, mother and supreme controller. There is no doubt of this. Whatever is being experienced, whatever is already in existence, whatever is not in existence, whatever will be in existence in the future, whatever is the smallest and whatever is the biggest have no separate existence outside the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Everything is resting in Him, but He is out of touch with everything manifested."

Nanda and Uddhava thus passed the whole night in discussing Kṛṣṇa. In the morning, the gopīs prepared for morning ārātrika by lighting their lamps and sprinkling butter mixed with yogurt. After finishing their maṅgala-ārātrika, they engaged themselves in churning butter from yogurt. While the gopīs were thus engaged, the lamps reflected on their ornaments became still more illuminated. The churning rod, their arms, their earrings, their bangles, their breasts--everything moved, and the kuṅkuma powder gave their faces a saffron luster comparable to the rising sun. 

While churning, they also sang the glories of Kṛṣṇa. The two sound vibrations mixed together, ascended to the sky and sanctified the whole atmosphere. After sunrise the gopīs came as usual to offer their respects to Nanda Mahārāja and Yaśodā, but when they saw the golden chariot of Uddhava at the door, they began to inquire among themselves. What was that chariot, and to whom did it belong? Some of them inquired whether Akrūra, who had taken away Kṛṣṇa, had again returned. They were not very pleased with Akrūra because, being engaged in the service of Kaṁsa, he took Kṛṣṇa away to the city of Mathurā. 

All the gopīs conjectured that Akrūra might have come again to fulfill another cruel plan. But they thought, "We are now dead bodies without our supreme master, Kṛṣṇa. What further act can he perpetrate on these dead bodies?" While they were talking in this way, Uddhava finished his morning ablutions, prayers and chanting and came before them.
Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Forty-fifth Chapter of Kṛṣṇa, "Uddhava Visits Vṛndāvana."

Radharani Braj Yatra 2019 VIDEO


Bhakti Vikas Swami's Molester Messiah Pals


BVKS and his molester messiah program's pals


Mr. Karma Vacuum Cleaner 

PADA: Yep, Bhakti Vikas swami is always hanging out with Radhanath, Jayadvaita, Jayapataka, Lokanath swamis et al. Did we forget to mention that Lokanath swami touched a young girl repeatedly and the GBC promised her parents he would no longer hold a post of authority, oooops, except he is STILL one of their gurus? And this former young girl eventually wrote to PADA to explain how all this has messed up her life in so many ways. And its turned her and her friends and family away from the ISKCON society, just like so many others have been turned off. 

And this is the person Bhakti Vikas swami loves to associate with? 

And Jayapataka has been encouraged by Bhakti Vikas swami to accumulate sins from thousands of people, never mind Srila Prabhupada says if we neophytes take sins as diksha gurus, we WILL have to suffer. Why do we want to encourage others to act in such a way they will have to suffer? And Jayapataka is the sannyasa guru of BVKS? And why doesn't Hanuman Croatia know that all this is wrong and we should not take BVKS as a guru, as Hanuman recommends? We need to accept a member of the molester messiah's program to go back to God? ys pd  

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2019/05/hanuman-croatia-admits-bhakti-vikasa.html

Thursday, November 7, 2019

Being a Devotee in Kali yuga by Dina Sharana das (acbsp)

Being a Devotee in Kali yuga

by Dina Sharana das (acbsp)

Hare Krishna! Obeisances to everyone. I wanted to share a minor realization from this younger brother. Recently I have been appreciating, after 43 years, how I am not a devotee like Nanda Maharaj, a cowherd boy, or Draupadi, and I am finding deeper peace on the path. (.. a little humor for you, "really, only now?" )

let me re-phrase the above.. "a refreshing of understanding." I read, we read, how quickly Sri Krishna runs to the help and assistance of His dear devotees, Gajendra, Draupadi, Pandavas, residents of Vrndavana etc., and I must admit to miscalculating my position and suffering for it emotionally. In the last 20 years specifically I have faced above average human sufferings, and I held faith in what seemed to be valid expectations of how Krishna would respond.

I was feeling rather discouraged in recent months, and prayed to our spiritual father to please help me understand what seemed to be glaring contradictions between what is depicted in our bhakti scriptures and my experience. What came to me, gradually, was sparked first by remembering an interesting comment Srila Prabhupada makes, or Srila Rupa Goswami makes in our Nectar of Devotion, at the end of the section wherein the various ways of service are described, and examples given of the benefits.

Srila Prabhupada some of us may remember explains, and I paraphrase, "... that we should not expect as the usual case the benefits described, rather they are given to encourage us to engage in bhakti, not all devotees will have this same experience."

That helped, and some weeks later I remembered a statement purported to have been made by His Divine Grace, that "for many of my disciples it will be 2-3 births before going back to Godhead."

Does anyone know where this can be verified? And I did read this in a couple of conversations, wherein Srila Prabupada commented how truly fallen he saw some of us were.

--

I believe some of us share my understanding, how our Spiritual Master was often very "gracious, liberal, and kind" in calling us "devotees." We are all aware some of us, a few, really got carried away with over-inflated ideas of how advanced we were. Not to that extent, but I also have been over-estimating my relationship to Krishna, and what I can expect.

When we have mistaken expectations about anything, naturally we end up feeling discouraged. Mistaken expectation is sure to bring unhappiness. After all this, I just want to share I feel much happier despite so many things, "not going my way" if not worse, although I have spent 43 years actually dedicated, significantly to sharing KC, observing hundreds of ekadasis, chanting millions and millions of Hare Krishna mantras, putting Bhagavad gita into hundreds of people's hands

For the sake of some of us who are feeling or have felt they are or did have a hard time. 

1. In 1983 while deeply, happily, enthusiastically distributing books I got hit by a truck, it ran over my legs breaking my left thigh bone, 21 days in the hospital.

2. After 20 years of sharing a devotional married life my wife became seriously mentally deranged, 150% averse to Krishna and devotees. I was there for another 12 years. Horribly trying ... but helped me develop patience and forgiveness. I lost my wife, three boys, house, walked away with 3 boxes of stuff.

3. In May of this year my rented house burned taking everything I owned and most of my business, that happened after 7 days of the worst agonizing pain in my life followed by emergency surgery.

4. I just filed for bankruptcy and just getting by, barely.

So, YOU too are not alone with challenges of life and KC, we all have our stories to tell.

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I am still who I am! Ha ha ... for me anyway ... a fallen sinful soul of this Kali yuga with some little piety, who has gotten the fabulous opportunity of approaching the eternal spiritual realm, where the cowherd boys and gopis sport and play with our beloved Sri Krishna.... or even Vaikuntha, that is more than I deserve even.

Because I have thought, in previous years, "well, I have so many past sins, of course I will suffer" but now, 43 years down the road I am thinking "what sinful reactions?" How many past sins could I have that have not been destroyed many times over by now?

Good question, but I prayed on this point, and there is the valid understanding of Prarabhda Karma.. I mean to say if a devotee is born blind, they WILL NOT see again in this life, more or less, regardless of what bhakti they do.... isn't?

In other words, what we bring into this life, karma wise, whether blindness, paraplegic condition, ugliness, poverty sort of life, will not change... I HAVE experience many times Krishna's almost instant help specifically with internal remembrance of Him, understanding of Him, inspiration to serve Him, that is for sure and I am ever grateful..

But here I admit my mistake in thinking my material situation might radically be different than what I came into this life with... and I admit my mistake in thinking my devotion somehow of the depth of those who do have such love and devotion.. and experience the benefits thereof.

I am feeling happy really, not quite, but sort of like that brahmana we hear about who danced when told in many hundres of lives he would be back in the spiritual world.. at least I am going!

I feel more peace, having my expectations refreshed to properness. (is that a word?) Has anyone heard this , "..many of my disciples it will take 2-3 lifetimes?" Thank you for your company, and the opportunity to connect with Srila Prabhupada and Krishna by being of service to all of you, as I can.

Hare Krishna.

Monday, November 4, 2019

ISKCON / Misogyny / Child Abuse / False Renunciation / NM etc. (Summary phone call)

I was talking for a long time on the phone with a lady devotee, that there has been a BIG problem with the manner that women have been treated in and around many sectors of current ISKCON. The fact that so many women's complaints are simply tossed under the rug, whether in ISKCON -- or in the Paramadvaiti program etc. -- shows a lack of respect for the plight of Vaishnava women overall. It seems that many women's complaints are simply run over with the big truck of "you have to surrender to us men" -- even if their complaints are valid. 

That is not really going to make a functioning society. 

Never mind the complaints of many children over their abuse has not made much impact with the leaders either, and there is really no solid outreach or help for these victims to date. Worse, leaders of the victimizer infrastructure program are still promoted as big leaders. Most of the ex-gurukuli students we know of simply avoid having any connection to ISKCON, and so they basically boycott the institution. Thus many women were burnt out, and then in addition many of the "second generation" of children were burnt out too, and the result is mass alienation by both of these groups. 

In ISKCON, especially right after Srila Prabhupada departed, we started having the "women's collecting parties" -- often run by a mean spirited man, who was also lusty to boot. And so there was a problem of the "man leader" having illicit sex with one, or a number of the "samkirtan" women. And worse, some of these women reported they were being beaten by the "samkirtan leader." And how did you guess, the complaints of these women were not given much priority by "the men leaders." 

Some "samkirtan" that was! 

Of course, apparently no one thought it might be a good idea to cancel these programs, or at least make a woman the leader of the party, which was my suggestion at that time. That would have put an end to the sexual exploiting, although it would not have ended exploiting the women as "money collecting cash cows" -- as they were sometimes called by some of these "protecting the women -- men devotees." 

Many of these women collected a lot of money -- and for years together, only to be later booted out for "not being loyal to the GBC's guru." So they had to start off their lives off outside of ISKCON with little or no material asset. A very cruel and clearly anti-women policy. For example Mula Prakriti told me she personally had given ISKCON "several million dollars in collections," only to be discarded later on for her "not following the GBC guru (Ramesvara)." 

Mula Prakriti was very depressed about the whole situation as she confided to me more than once, and later on she succumbed to terminal cancer. She even told me she had once joined "Alcoholics Anonymous," just so she could have some friends and association with other people. Wow, the Alcoholics make better association than a lot of "Krishna devotees"? So this has been the result of many "men leaders" exploiting and then removing these women.

Anyway! Now that the GBC was into their "building collecting business," they needed buildings more than they needed these collectors. So they had to drive out a lot of people so they could hijack the buildings. Even a person who had collected a lot of money had to be driven out on a rail if they challenged the new gurus, because their new object was to seize the buildings. 

So there was an evolving policy to keep the assets -- like the buildings, and jettison the people who had worked so hard for years and collected the money to buy those buildings. And many, many women, probably thousands are victims of this policy. This is also why they kicked out so many hundreds of women who complained about things like the child molesting and other crimes. 

Of course they also kicked me out for complaining about the child molesting and crimes. And then they beat and killed some of us who complained about the child molesting and crimes. No wonder that a lot of these women then "suffered in silence," being terrified of speaking up after they saw how "dissenters" were being banned, beaten if not killed. That is still the case for a number of women. They will write me about different bad things they experienced, but they still don't want their names mentioned because they fear the regime.

And this pattern continues, recently Jvalamukhi was banned:

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2019/10/jvalamukhi-banned-from-alachua-iskcon.html

*** And we published a letter from a woman who said her husband has been a big authority in ISKCON, and he has bankrupted her and left her nearly penniless and almost homeless, and now he is hiding out and probably ISKCON is helping hide him. No one from ISKCON offers her any assistance.

*** And the wife of ISKCON Guru Prithu writes:

"On numerous occasions, my youngest son, now 4, and I were stalked and attacked by local Brijbasis, while we traveled alone without the protection of a husband. My husband knew this, but he never attempted to protect us from these dangers by staying with us. He remained comfortably living in the temple compound. (...)

On several occasions my husband expressed his desire for me to fan him with a peacock fan and offer him arotik like a "real" Vedic woman should. When I refused to do this, he would become insulted. (...)


I returned to Vrindavan to discover my son, Nila, living in the so-called care of my husband's disciples who had been instructed to beat and lock him in a room, should he not comply with their instructions. They did this several times. Before Nila ran away from the Gurukula for the last time, Prithu had personally beaten him and sent him back to school, feeling betrayed and unloved by his father. (...)


For years, we have been unsupported by ISKCON while my husband has gotten virtually a free ride. His disciples have paid his air fare to places around the globe. He has slept in the best of facilities; eaten his choice of foodstuffs; spent months and months in some of the best vacation spots around the world recuperating from diseases, spending over $10,000 getting his teeth fixed or hiding out somewhere writing a book that mysteriously since 12 years never gets finished."


(Letter from Rambhoru Devi Dasi, Wife of Prithu Das, October 24th, 2004)


*** And Sita was recently harassed when she began to question Mahatma das for stealing her money, and so on and so forth ad infinitum.

*** And there was a woman we know who was being beaten black and blue and it turns out her "devotee boyfriend" had been in other ISKCON temples exploiting women, and he was allowed to travel around without restriction and start another woman exploiting program in different locations. Nothing was ever done by any ISKCON authorities ever to restrict this man.

*** There was also a big problem in places like "New Vrndavana" where there was a group of pretty rowdy and aggressive men, who treated their wives (or other women there) as if they were like the obedient slave servants of these men. Some of these men said to Sulochan they were acting as "kshatriyas" (warriors) and so they could have more than one woman according to kshatriya codes. Umm, ok maybe but real kshatriyas are not protecting a homosexual man with pedophile tendencies as a guru? 

Rather the REAL kshastriyas would be helping folks like PADA expose, and if possible remove, such deviants from the post of guru. Anyway, the police turned out to be the real kshatriyas here, they raided New Vrndavana and put a big crimp on their merriment party time entertainment. Meanwhile a news reporter told me it was evident women were being passed around to different men because "it was evident their kids came from different fathers."

That had to be one of the most bizarre aspects of all this, a bunch of muscle bound big bad tough guys, some of them veterans with actual war fighting experience and so forth, are walking about with all sorts of guns, baseball bats, machetes and so forth; and all of this to merely -- protect a homosexual posing as a messiah, dressed in silk and wearing a crown, sitting on a big seat covered with the hands of many little boys. Even the media people told me that was the weirdest thing they had ever seen, and it was self-evident this man was a pedophile due to all the contact with little boys he was having going on left, right and center.  

The son of one of these NV "kshatriya defenders" committed suicide leaving a note behind, "There is no place for me in my religion." It is our opinion that most of these so-called kshatriyas were confusing even their own family members by supporting the worship of deviants as gurus, never mind how badly the general public was baffled by all this imbroglio. 

*** Meanwhile another woman from New Vrndavana told us she was ordered to marry a new husband, never mind she was already legally married to another man. She would just get "a flower garland exchange" with the new man, no need for legal stuff! And when she rejected the new man, she was told she has to take sannyasa, or get off the property in 24 hours. How could so many "devotees" be going along with all this incredible foolishness and manipulation of these defenseless women? And what has been the fate of the children of the people in these situations? People did not notice there is a problem here? Its baffling! 

Where were the "male protectors" of these women and children? 

And that is merely one tale out of maybe over a hundred very weird tales we heard from women from that place. And some young girls there were being married off to older men. And one of these ladies told me if it was not for me helping expose the crimes going on there, which convinced her parents to get her out of there, she would have had to commit suicide to get out of being married to a older man she hated. And so on and so on and so on!  

So it seems like a lot of the men in ISKCON were simply not behaving like proper men, and this lead to a lot of problems for the ladies of ISKCON. 
It thus seems a lot of these ISKCON leaders are misogynists, and if the rank and file follow them, they become contaminated by these issues. 

Sulochana said the leaders are basically exploiters and -- anti-women, anti-children, anti-family and anti-wholesome life. And yes, we need to make a society that actually cares for women, children, family and wholesome life. Women are being suppressed and kicked out, and meanwhile Mahatma's porno watching swami friend Gunagrahi is buried in a samadhi after he kicked out so many people in South America and ruined their lives. They are goondas and not gurus, and that's really summing it up. 

My friend Kamadeva writes in public that he likes a woman with "a large booty." Hee hee! OK he probably does that to upset the many "goody two shoes" types of devotees, whom he considers as largely hypocrites. Many of these "big devotees" are also thinking of women with a large booty, they just won't admit they are still attracted. Give him credit for being honest. Then again, how will he attract a nice devotee woman if he writes like this? Just saying!  

However, as soon as the topic of child molesting comes up, Kamadeva is dead set against it and angry at the perps and their enablers. So here is a person who can relate to the fact that -- sex with consenting adults is one thing, while sex with children is a criminal thing. It always amazes us that so few devotees immediately agree with us on this point and they argue, "well jeepers prabhu, we cannot be offensive and talk about politics." 

That is often their argument. Really! We are flying at 28,000 feet and our right side engine on our 737 is on fire. "Yes, but its no problem prabhu, we don't want to talk about politics here"! OK never mind, you will crash and burn then, unfortunately so will the all the other innocent passengers on board.    

Thus, we were like breaking rocks trying to convince a lot of devotees to protest the women and child abuse program. Kamadeva types need no convincing, he immediately agrees child molesting is a criminal crisis that has to be halted forthwith. So we agreed with the lady on our phone call, there seems to be a connection between the misogyny and the child abuse. And that is also true with most "karmis," they need no elaborate convincing to recognize that child abuse is a crime that needs to be corrected and pronto. Nor do they think curbing child abuse is "politics."

Our caller suggested that there has been a homosexual pedophile problem, simultaneous to the misogyny problem. And she said that seems to be what also happens sometimes under some forms of strict sharia law, or even the Catholic Church where the men are suppressed from contacting women. And this creates a problem of homosexual pedophiles attacking young boys. We both agreed that homosexuals are generally not pedophiles, but clearly some of them are. 

And I was told by a homosexual friend that sometimes women are seen as competition, so there is a sort of mean spirited group of homosexuals or covert ones, who are not really friendly towards women. That might explain some of the mean minded treatment various women have received. Or in other cases various men want to appear as renounced, when they are not, so they treat women viciously to make it appear they are not attracted.  

*** When a woman told me she was going to marry a Christian man because "devotee men are too mean," I had no good comeback.

*** When a woman told me she had become a lesbian because her husband was beating her, I had no good comeback.

*** When various devotee ladies marry "a nice karmi" man because they have given up hope on finding a nice devotee man, I have no good comeback.

*** When I had to stop a "senior devotee" from beating up his wife, and she ran off to marry a "karmi" man, there was no good comeback.  

And so on and so forth. Yes, there is a pattern here. And the lady caller said that perhaps the best of the lot in the GBC guru group is probably Gunagrahi, because at least he has been watching pornography and not really harming another person by having sex with them physically and directly. OK, but he did cause a lot of harm by seriously acting like a mad general and ordering people around in such a contrary and foolish way -- his zone was devastated. And a number of marriages were made topsy turvy by his interference etc.

Of course porn is still degrading and exploiting for women, albeit its not directly harming them physically per se, but its not creating a society of healthy respect for them either. And the fact the GBC folks bury a porno swami in a samadhi is like advertising that they are not interested in respecting women, period. Why would the GBC ilk bury a porno swami in a samadhi, unless they wanted to poke a stick in the eyes of the women class and insult ALL of them? 

OK its more misogyny. There are some studies that suggest porn produces violent sex criminals, its possible there is a connection. Its exploiting women in any case. Meanwhile no one can explain what exactly is "porno swami samadhi"? And why would we bury such a person in Krishna's holy dham right near Srila Prabhupada's samadhi, if not to insult and degrade his position?

Then we have Stockholm syndrome hijacked Jadurani dasi. The GBC's gurus like Tamal, Sivarama, Indradyumna, Satsvarupa etc. all run off to Narayan Maharaja. Then Jadurani acts like their most faithful disciple, and she too runs off to Narayan Maharaja, chief cheer leader of Tamal's illicit sex with men, women and children guru process. Tamal wants people to worship Narayan Maharaja, and Jadurani says she wants the same thing. So the Prabhupada devotees are being banned, beaten, sued, molested and murdered, and NM is giving "gopi rasika classes" to the leaders of that process. So we reject the GBC, by worshiping their topmost bucket boy and cheer leader, and their self-advertised rasika acharya no less?

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/07/jadurani-promotes-kill-guru-and-become.html

And NM and Tamal says we ritviks are poison, so they can demonize us to get us killed, and keep their molester empire afloat. Never mind NM says many negative things about Srila Prabhupada. Then a top guru in the Narayan Maharaja camp named "Prem Prayojana prabhu," goes to meet with Paramadvaiti swami, despite we described a photo where we saw what appears to be Paramadvaiti with a naked little girl on his lap and what also appears to be an erection. 

And this is the person the NM / Jaduarani / Prem Prayojana group wants us to have as one of our spiritual leaders? Where is the respect for women, or children, or Krishna, or even respect for common moral sense? We know this guy has been hugging women for years together, already, there are tons of photos already circulating. And some women have made web sites to complain, all to the deaf ears of these "advanced devotees." Devotees of -- what?




The good ole boys club

Its the same thing, anyone can be the guru as long as its not Srila Prabhupada. And its also the same thing, NM clan could not discriminate that Tamal has been a bad actor, they thought he is a guru. And now they cannot discriminate that Paramadvaiti is also another bad actor, they still think he is a guru too and etc. And the NM clan also thought the three deviants of the Gaudiya Matha are acharyas. 

And all of this is connected to the misogyny, child abuse, banning, beating and killing vaishnavas agenda. We need to give "rasika classes" to a program that is banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing vaishnavas? And Jadurani does not realize, this never was a rasika program in the first place? It was aiding and abetting criminals, and rubber stamping them as authorized when they were clearly not. Tamal used to say his two most favorite people are Bhavananda and Narayan Maharaja, and no one noticed this was a problem?

Narayan Maharaja wanted the GBC to vote in more gurus, which is why he helped Satsvarupa write "The Guru Reform Notebook." OK and what kind of gurus were being voted in under their scheme? "I have been going through a period of massive depressions and my experience has been, and at times still is, a nightmare of intense unhappiness, utter hopelessness, coupled with feeling of abandonment and helplessness. (...) For me to get to a better place it is clear that I need first of all to be honest with myself and with all of you. Further, I need to resign from my service of initiating guru and discontinue guiding my disciples in that capacity." (Resignation Letter, Prithu Das, October 21st, 2004)

So we needed to vote in these kinds of people as -- Krishna's successor gurus? And Jadurani does not even understand that Narayan Maharaja was making a huge mistake by cheer leading this process -- of making these types of fools into acharyas? She still thinks all this was some sort of pure spiritual activity?

Then again Jadurani was promoting the lecture of another mayavada sannyasa who says we did not originate with Krishna. Srila Prabhupada says this is mayavada. And Narayan Maharaja also says we did not originate with Krishna. Why are we dismantling Srila Prabhupada's teachings in order to promote mayavadas, and worse, to promote people who are orchestrating women and child abuse if not murders, as Krishna's gurus? Where is the basic respect for Krishna? And Narayan Maharaja says Sridhara Maharaja is a bona fide acharya, oops, big supporter of the bi-sexual acharya of 1936. And! Another guy who says we did not originate with Krishna, we started in brahmajyoti. This is bona fide?  

Of course various women have written to PADA to complain there are no good men for them in the ISKCON camp, ritvik camp, or Narayan Maharaja program. So they tell me they married new age guys, Christian guys, and one married a Sikh. Again, we cannot argue that they made the better deal for themselves, and most likely -- also for their children.   

Then we have the Sanat/ Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur clan. Mukunda (UK) has been their chief authority and shiksha guru whom they cited often and still do. Wait? According Mahesh and others, Mukunda has been a women beater whose wife had to run to the police in fear of her physical safety. We heard reports that she was trying to get various people to help her with her violent mate, but it turns out the "karmis" were the best people to help her. 

Why are we worshiping as our shiksha gurus women beaters who object to our helping repair a child beating process? We need to promote women beaters who are against stopping child beating as a means of saving ISKCON? Wait a minute, that is the whole problem in ISKCON, so we should re-introduce that agenda?  

Mukunda vociferously told me its wrong for me to help children who have been being beaten black and blue, and even some of them having their bones broken with huge bamboo sticks. So the women can be beaten, the children can be beaten, and all of this is being done by "protective men." So in the name of rejecting the GBC's women and children beating process, we start to advocate women and children beating agendas in the name of a reform? This is not solving the crisis. Of course this begs the question, what kind of people are the Sanat / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks, when they all fall off their chairs to lick the jack boots of the leader of a women and children beating advocacy program?

Hah hah! So the woman on the phone says, these Mukunda types just need to find a nice homosexual man and just "get it on" and kiss that guy. He hates women because he cannot get it on with any woman, and very likely he is another covert homosexual who hates women, because he has no attraction for them. Instead of all this false renunciates program, why don't all these people just get on with being homosexuals, and live a life of care and concern for another person, even if its another man? 

There are many homosexuals around here and at least they know how to behave respectfully with others. I understand personally that a lot of them were formerly women in their past lives, and they simply have not gotten free of that former identification. That is also why some of them dress like women etc. 

At least then they can learn to love and care for someone, even if its a man, and that will be way better than spending one's entire life hating women competitors and their by-product children and wishing ill on them? Simply wasting one's life hating women and children, if not exploiting them, is not the path forward. So if we can renounce our anarthas, good, but if we are not advanced enough to do so, artificial renounced people seem to be capable of doing horrible things to others.

To SUM! This artificial renunciate process is harming the Krishna's, the Christians, the Muslims and so on. And she thinks a lot of the GBC and Mukunda are the same ilk, they are trying to hide the fact they cannot love a woman and so they create hell for women (and children) to show they are "big renounced men," but they just end up being giant jerks who harm women and children. We agree! And after all the trouble from New Vrndavana with women and children being exploited, making the second in command there Radhanath swami the new leader of ISKCON is really a big poke in the eye to exploited women and children everywhere.

So all of this needs to be addressed and fixed if we are to move on to form a nice wholesome spiritual society. Sorry we have to even point any of this out, it should be self-evident.  

ys pd  

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These Gaudiya Matha people had offended Prabhupada by saying he cannot use the title of Prabhupada, and not returning Prabhupada's dandavats and tossing the prasadam on the ground and so on. And Narayan Maharaja was with that group in 1971. That is accurate because I was there. 

That does not explain why Brahmananda then became the sergeant at arms for the GBC in 1980 after they had declared Sridhara Maharaja to be the "seniormost advisor to the GBC," and why they also never said anything constructive when the GBC went to Narayan Maharaja. 

Why didn't they object then? And Brahmananda told me he went along with a lot of this nonsense because he was economically dependent on the GBC. So when we have to bend the truth to support our economy, then what? It would be nice if these people gave us all the facts unadulterated at this point. Meanwhile a severe victim of all this says it looks like this is all the MAFIA policy of "omerta," people know about all kinds of things and there is a code of silence. And this person says Gargamuni speaking out at this point is too little to late to help most of us now. ys pd

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Omerta

Omerta is a Southern Italian code of silence and code of honor that places importance on silence in the face of questioning by authorities or outsiders; non-cooperation with authorities, the government, or outsiders; and willfully ignoring and generally avoiding interference with the illegal activities of others.


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