Monday, December 31, 2012

Rocana's Web Site mistakes SST and NM

PADA: Rocana's web site confuses the writings of Narayan Maharaja as the writings of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Swaraswati Thakura. They are not the same authors ... ys pd


Errors on Rocana’s website

Dear Rocana Prabhu, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Your web pages:

… all quote: “This line of guru-parampara is existing up to today without any break and it will continue to exist like this in the future also. To say, ‘There is no sad-guru living in the world at present and neither will there be any in the future’, is an atheistic opinion.”

… and they all attribute the quote to Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada. This quote was copy / pasted from a book called “True Conception of Sri Guru Tattva.” According to:

… “True Conception of Sri Guru Tattva” was written by BV Narayana Maharaja, who is infamous for writing/speaking offensive nonsense.

It’s common knowledge that there are huge gaps in the disciplic succession.

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa <>, <>, <>, <>, <>, <>

Aindra: HDG is both Shiksha and Diksha guru

Aindra Dasa Prabhu: [...] You should know that the highest service is to serve the instructions of A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhuad who is both our Diksha and Siksha guru in that he is the representative of both our Diksha sampradaya and our Siksha sampradaya. Mostly He (Srila Prabhupad) advocated rupanuga bhajan, but at the same time we should not overlook the power of our diksha mantras and mercy coming in that form from our diksha sampradaya which is comig from Nitai and Jahnava who are the embodiment of Ananda-manjari tattva. It is only by the mercy of Lord Nityananda that service to the lotus feet or Radha-Krsna in the mood of Radha dasyam (service of Radha) was spread all over the world. This is stated by Vrndavana dasa Thakura in his Sri Caitanya Bhagavat. [...]

Saturday, December 29, 2012

ISKCON hi-jacking explained in INDIA media

RE: Gaura Hari dasa "ritvik warrior"

PD: Yes prabhu you are right! Gaura Hari das is not stable with any one idea. He keeps going back and forth on the mental speculation platform. One day he is a self-advertised "ritvik warrior against the demon gurus," then the next day he flip-flops and is a pro-guru warrior against the demon ritviks, saying we are "offending Vaishnava parties" ok the bogus gurus. 

Basically, if we wait long enough, he will be shooting his arrows at anyone around him, whether good guys or bad guys, he cannot distinguish one idea / party / camp / process from the other. He wanted us all to be nice to Narayana Maharaja camp, then he complained that NM stole his woman associate away from him, and thus NM was a bogus guru. Then he flip-flopped and started saying we need to be nice to NM again, apparently so more women can get stolen from their mates. 

Then he wanted all of us to be with the Christians awhile back, saying the whole Vaishnava idea is bogus. Of course Vaishnavas from any camp are not going to stop being vegetarians and start eating beef steaks, so that idea fell apart real fast as he was unable to make any converts. His mind is all over the map because, he has no loyalty to anyone. Srila Prabhupada says people who change camps like this are spiritual prostitutes. And as we all know, prostitutes are prone to get incurable diseases from all this changing partners / running around.

The only thing GH does for sure is, he fights with every party eventually, and that is why no one wants him in their party, he is a loose cannon. That means he has no loyalty to any idea, its all sentimentalism. Now GH likes Radhanath, who has buried his best pal, the homosexual molester-pada Kirtanananda, in the sacred holy dham of Vrdnavana, so ignorant people can bow down and worship a molester who has had vaishnavas assassinated. Radhanath has polluted the holy dham worse than any individual on the planet, if GH thinks that is fine, he has no respect for the holy dham. ys pd

Dusyanta promotes worship of -- nothing and nobody?

DUSYANTA DASA: Hare Krsna. Yes I think the main point that you overlooked was the RELATIONSHIP with the Diksa Guru is different than the relationship with the Shiksa Guru. The Shiksa and Diksa Guru function in the same way but have different dealings with the disciples. 

[PD: Correct, the diksha guru provide pure divyam jnanam and he destroys / absorbs sins like Jesus, the shiksha guru may be a kanistha and he thus cannot perform these functions.]

DD: The ritviks pretend to have a Diksa relationship with Srila Prabhupada after He has disappeared where as Srila Prabhupada has instructed to serve His vani after he has disappeared, its an eternal constant. 

[PD: No, the ritviks have an actual relation with Srila Prabhupada. How does Dusyanta know all these thousands of ritviks in Russia, China, Malaysia and so on, are pretenders? And if the ritivks are all pretenders, then who are the real followers of guru? And who is that guru? Dusyanta does not mention: Where the real process is being followed; Who is the real guru; What process is he himself following? Who does he worship as the guru, and who does he promote to others as the guru? He simply tells us, we ritviks have no guru to promote, ok, so who is the guru then?] 

DD: So if you did not serve Srila Prabhupada’s vapuh how can you have a Diksa relationship????

[PD: Because you are still getting the divyam jnanam which destroys sins through his vani.]

DD: Diksa is a personal relationship with a Diksa Guru not with a Book.

[PD: So who is the guru YOU CLAIM is giving the personal relationship with people now? Is it Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, or the Pirate's ghosts on pier 13? And notice that Dusyanta, Locanananda, Rocana, George A Smith et al., they never give us the actual name of their alleged guru that they are all promoting? So they worship -- zero, and / or promote worship of zero?]

DD: The relationship with Lord Krsna in His Bhagavad-Gita form is Shiksa Guru not Diksa Guru. 

[PD: Lord Krishna is not giving us "divyam jnanam NOW AND TODAY which destroys sins" (aka diksha) by speaking the Bhagavad Gita? This is total atheist idea.] 

DD: So after Srila Prabhupada disappeared He is only available in His Vani form, His Book form as Shiksa Guru. You dont have a Diksa Guru relationship after the disappearance.

[PD: The divyam jnanam which destroys sins has stopped, says who? Where does Srila Prabhupada say that Lord Krishna's divyam jnanam in the Bhagavad Gita has stopped because Krishna's apparent manifest body is not appearing to us in a physical form? This is atheist idea, the Lord is dead because His physical form does not appear to us. Total atheism.]

DD: All you all did was to quote what the PROCESS of Diksa is-no problem. 

[PD: And you are not identifying your source of diksha? You are promoting nothing-ness as your source of diksha, this is atheism.]

DD: But what about your Diksa relationship serving Vapuh. When you serve Vani its Shiksa relationship. You have mixed up the types of relationships with the different Gurus when they are in their vapuh and when they are in their Vani. 

[PD: But you have no guru at all? You never tell us who it is? So you have no vapuh, no vani, no books, no temples, no devotees, nothing-ness. This is sunnyavada, you worship zero. Atheism.]

DD: Where does it say Shiksa Gurus dont take sins?

[PD: Srila Prabhupada told us we can ONLY act as shiksha gurus, therefore do not allow people to touch your feet and take their sins.]

DD: What is the point in being so judgemental and agressive, how is that a Vaisnava quality or are you just conditioned soul yourselves? Try to be more cool, better to have a cool head.

[PD: Well we are simply asking you why you never offer up the name of your guru, show us his books, show us his devotees, show us what process you follow, and all you ever give us is one big fat zero for all of the above? We are sorry, we do not worship zero. This is atheist idea. ys pd] 

Friday, December 28, 2012

Prabhupada letters site

English song by Thakura Bhaktivinode

Happy New Year 2013

NM knew devotees were being banned and abused

Mulaprakrit dasi explains that she told NARAYAN MAHARJA (Mathura) that these GBC gurus were banning and mistreating people, and she told him that right at the start in 1978. Shortly after this, NM became the gopi rasika advisor of the "GBC guru sabha" that was doing all the banning, beating, molesting and murdering. Incidently, NM was the person who tried to organize a boycott of Srila Prabhupada in 1971. 

NM after 1978 in fact became Tamal's darling "rasika advisor." So NM knew all the ISKCON rank and file devotees were being -- banned and mistreated, and he knew right from the start, and yet he fully supported these bogus gurus. And NM said those of us who wanted to worship Srila Prabhupada were "ritvik poison" so NM could prop up the molester messiahs program. NM even challenged us later on the the poison issue because he was at the time STAYING WITH TAMAL IN DALLAS. 

Very interesting, NM knew right from the start these gurus were vicious and then he went on to be their biggest cheer leader / defender / rasika advisor / Satsvarupa's ghost writer / Tamal's eternal rasika companion / etc. NM KNEW ALL ALONG HE WAS SUPPORTING A VICIOUS REGIME! Thanks for setting that straight Mula Prakriti dd! ys pd    

Unexpected twins arrive at Govinda's farm!

What was Srila Prabhupada's order (Locanananda update)

Puranjana dasa says:

Dear Locanananda, You are prevaricating, again. Once again, using your technique of answering our question with another question. Stalling technique. In a technical and formal debate, you would have been disqualified. Another question is not an answer.

First of all, since you keep saying — for some years if not decades now — that “they are his disciples,” you need to tell us who is the “him” you keep saying has disciples? Again, why can’t you answer your own point, who is the “him” you keep telling us has disciples? Please give us his name?

Or else admit, there is / are no current “him” who has disciples, thus it seems you are really not talking about “anyone at all” who actually exists. Your “him” is a phantasm. Or what?

In short, you keep avoiding YOUR own point, once again NOT answering your own question, which you yourself have begged for years and years, you keep saying there is a him, who has or will have disciples. PLEASE! Just tell us once and for all — “him” who?

Or are you just talking about about thin air, a ghost, a non-existing person? Or what? Just tell us please, you have kept us in suspense for years now, who is the “him” you keep saying is (or was) going to have “his own” disciples? And please do not answer with another question, this is not allowed in formal discussions, its called diverting, prevaricating, ok Srila Prabhupada called this word jugglery.

If you cannot even answer your own question, that you yourself raised already, years ago, what is your point? That you cannot understand your own previous statements? Answering a question with another question, that is what the five years old children next door do when you ask them who is stealing the cookies. They ask another question, “Who said I knew about any cookies”? Stalling technique. ys pd

****** dasa aks:

I am addressing the below question to the following persons.

1. Puranjana dasa 5. Iskcon Bangalore/Madhu Pandit dasa
2. Pratyatosa dasa 6. IRM/Krishna Kanth or anyone else who claim to be ritviks.
3. Mahesh Raja
4. Amar Puri

I understand the Ritviks say that Srila Prabhupada wanted initiation by ritvik for all future devotees
in iskcon after his departure and the initiated becomes Srila Prabhupada’s disciple. Their point of reference
or proof that Srila Prabhupada wanted this is the July 9th 1977 appointment letter. If this is true then
tell us where in that letter does Srila Prabhupada say that this initiation process by ritvik must
continue after his departure and the initiated becomes his disciples?

Hare Krsna.

Puranjana dasa says:

The answer to this is:

1) Srila Prabhupada said hundreds, perhaps even thousands of times — after he departs there will only be managers and not gurus. And moreover that his disciples are not fit to be gurus. He did not make “one letter” about this, he stated this idea hundreds of times, over and over and over. Thus, later on he made the July 9th letter to simply CONFIRM what he had ALREADY said hundreds of times, there will only be mangers, representatives, proxies, and not successors. And he also said this hundreds of times — “do not change anything,” i.e. he will continue as the acharya.

2) Srila Prabhupada also warned us not to let others touch our feet, because then we would be acting as gurus, and we would be taking other’s karma, and we would get sick, fall down or both. In case you have not noticed, the post-1977 false gurus are having an epidemic of getting sick and falling down. In sum, he said we are NOT qualified to be gurus, and therefore what he said he wanted was “no changes” i.e. his worship should continue by a managerial body. Notice that when they violated that order, there has been an epidemic of catastrophic “guru” failures, which was recorded in all the news media, and which severely hampered his mission. OK he had ALREADY said repeatedly — they would fail, exactly as he said would happen — if they artificially tried to be gurus. Where does he say the neophytes can act like an acharya or another Jesus? He does not, he says they CANNOT DO SO.

3) Srila Prabhupada also told us perhaps thousands of times: do not try to be come gurus like the Gaudiya Matha did, and destroy his mission. He said we are not qualified, that means only he is, and thus — do not try to imitate. He was saying that a lot in 1977.

4) Srila Prabhupada said in January of 1977 that he was suspending sannyasa because they were making a laughing stock out of sannyasa. If they are clearly barely fit for sannyasa, how are they fit to be gurus?

5) On May 28th Srila Prabhupada said initiations would continue by ritviks. This was confirmed in the July 9th letter and subsequent conversations where he said he had made deputies, agents and so on.

6) The “will” says only his initiated disciples can be allowed as directors of ISKCON. That means he expected his initiated disciples to continue henceforward.

7) Srila Prabhupada said (here in Berkeley) that he would live forever in his books. The diksha guru thus gives (now through his books) pure divyam jnanam which destroys sins aka diksha. The diksha guru also absorbs sins like Jesus, therefore the only person qualified to (a) give pure divyam jnanam through his books and (b) absolve sins like Jesus is — Srila Prabhupada. Is there any other candidate that can be named? If not, he is the diksha guru by default, which is what is even happening gradually in ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada is gradually being emphasized because his dubious replacements simply are not up to the task.

8) In case you have not noticed, we have so badly hammered these false gurus by now that the biggest adherents of the living guru idea like Locanananda, Rocana, George A Smith, Kailasha chandra, many GBC, many Gaudiya Matha, and similar others, they all refuse to name their living guru. Why? Because they know we will immediately pounce on the person they named as their current diksha guru as a fraud. Notice how Locanananda does the same exact thing, he says there is some “him” named as the guru who will have disciples, but notice — he never tells us who that “him” is, because he knows better. Locanananda knows, as soon as he names the alleged “him” he implies was named as the current living guru, we will immediately identify this person as a fraud. So now they are hiding the name of their living guru, because, they know that their whole system has no credibility. That means de facto, they are admitting we are right, there is no other guru other than Srila Prabhupada.

9) If there was any other system ordered or named, what is it? No one has ever identified any, or produced documentation to prove some ANY other idea was ordered. OK, our idea wins by default. ys pd

LOCANANANDA PRABHU (LD): Puranjana Prabhu — You keep asking me who it is that was authorized by Srila Prabhupada, i.e., given the order to act as guru. My answer is simply that the order was given by Srila Prabhupada for the devotees he would recommend to act as officiating acaryas, particularly at that time when he would no longer be physically present.

[PD: OK why are you STILL not specifically naming who these alleged diksha gurus are? Are you saying the post-1977 11 people, who all started running amok with money, women, followers, drugs, homosexuality, criminal action, ad infinitum, are your idea of gurus? You are also going in circles. It says there will be ritviks giving initiations after he departs. It does not say these ritviks will be gurus after he departs, it says they will be ritviks after he departs. I certainly hope you are not suggesting that the 11 are your idea of parampara messiahs? It seems like you are?]

LD: According to the May 28th, 1977 conversation, anyone receiving diksa in ISKCON during Srila Prabhupada’s lifetime would be considered directly initiated by Srila Prabhupada.

[PD: No, it says they will be ritivks after he departs.]

LD: When asked about those who would receive initiation in ISKCON after he was no longer physically present, Srila Prabhupada referred to them as his grand disciples.

[PD: No, he said they would be gurus when he gives an order, but no order was given. Are you saying Srila Prabhupada appointed the 11 as gurus because he had no idea of who or what a guru is?]

LD: There was never any mention of anyone having to leave ISKCON to give diksa.

[PD: Well the 11 all left right away, in March of 1978 they all went to Sridhara, Narayana, BV Puri, BP Puri, Fakir Mohan and so on and so forth. So you raise another good point, they all left right away but there is no order to do so. So they are deviants and not gurus, agreed.]

LD: We all know Srila Prabhupada did not want to see any kind of schism within our movement. He expected everyone to follow his directives, especially concerning how things would be managed after he left this world. So his order was, “I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating acarya.”

[PD: Yes, May 28th also says when the ritviks deviate they will have to be replaced. OK, that means they are not gurus because gurus do not deviate and have to be replaced. Or are you saying the parampara is full of deviants, who then have to be replaced? You are confusing us, again.]

LD: The modern ritvik idea is that Srila Prabhupada continues to give formal initiation, even though he himself never said he intended to do that after entering samadhi.

[PD: Where does he say that? He says his books (the source of divyam jnanama which destroys sins aka diksha) would live on forever. Where did he says his books and their diksha potency would die?]

LD: Only the followers of Chubby Checker are willing to twist that kind of obtuse meaning out of the spiritual master’s direct statements which actually have no need of interpretation.

[PD: Right, he said in the future when he is not here, they are going to be giving initiations as ritviks, that is the first thing that is said on the tape.]

LD: The July 9th letter, for example, mentions nothing about post-samadhi initiations, so the twisters take the word “henceforward” as their cue to construct a new model of how they want the guru parampara to be perpetuated.

[PD: So according to you the 11, who were part of a group of leaders always tending towards illicit sex, drugs and so on, all along from the 1960s, are diksha gurus? That means you never understood what a diksha guru is?]

LD: The dance party continues with an analysis of the will and the phrase “MY initiated disciple,” words that were inserted into the text of the document by a lawyer after Srila Prabhupada had already approved the wording “AN initiated disciple” as acceptable to him.

[PD: So persons inclined towards illicit sex, homosexuality, drugs and so on, were intended to give pure jnanam and absorb sins like Jesus? And that was "the order" of Srila Prabhupada? You are making no sense at all. Where does he order that the conditioned souls on the GBCs can give diksha?]

LD: How could this possibly be taken as evidence that Srila Prabhupada would continue to initiate disciples directly after entering maha-samadhi if these were the lawyer’s words?

[PD: You do not need to be a lawyer, any five year old child knows that you need to worship a pure devotee, whether the pure devotee is so-called departed or not, and that worship of criminals, perverts and deviants is bogus.]

LD: And which acarya in our line or any other line ever proposed continuing to give diksa after leaving this place and to do so from wherever Krishna arranged for him to go to carry on the preaching mission? Who can even say that Krishna ordered Srila Prabhupada to remain in the material world to preach Krishna consciousness? Were you privy to that most intimate conversation between the Lord and His pure devotee whereby his future service was made known to him? Then how could you be so sure of Srila Prabhupada’s current role in serving his worshipful Lord at the present moment?

[PD: Well its simple, he said do not worship bogus people like the Gaudiya Matha does, stay on target and worship the acharya.]

LD: I read Pratyatosa’s one page explanation of the ritvik position and there is nothing new there. I’ve heard all this before, and it is the ongoing chewing of the chewed. He makes personal attacks instead of philosophical points. His logic is faulty. It is what we call argumentum ad ignorantum. His reasoning is defeated by the statement of sastra that no one can approach the activities of the pure devotee by logic and reason because they are inconceivable in their dimension.

[PD: No elaborate logic and reason is required? Even cannibals do not worship persons engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children as the GBC's bogus messiahs program does, the cannibals even know that is bogus because they have enough God given intuition to know that is totally bogus. You cannot go back to God by worship of deviants, plain and simple, you have to worship the pure devotee. That is stated everywhere.

I also note that you are STILL not giving the specific names of the people you claim are diksha gurus either, that would be too embarassing for you would it not? Tell us who in your opinion are the diksha gurus now who have pure jnanam and the potency to absorb sins like Jesus, and give us their names. Why are you STILL not giving us the names, that was our original question to you? More shuffling on your part, simply tell us the specific names of the people you are saying either are, were or could have been the post 1978 diksha gurus for ISKCON. Name them! You are going around in circles! Just name the 1978 and current diksha / parampara / messiah / Krishna's successors / gurus you keep alluding to, tell us once and for all, who are they? Why is this like pulling teeth to get a simple list of names? ys pd]

Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Locanananda forgot who "his" disciples are?

Locanananda says they are going to be “his” disciples? Except he has no idea, who is the “his”? His who? Whose is the “him” named to take disciples? HDG SP never names any gurus on May 28th, or at any other time? No mention of the 11 was given on May 28th, and no order for guru was given anywhere, at any time. So yes, when a guru is ordered to be a guru by his own guru, and / or by Krishna, then that guru has his own disciples, but only when he is ordered to take disciples, but notice, there is no order. Srila Prabhupada says when I order (maybe later on), but that is not an order (for now). So no one was ever told they are going to take their own disciples. So this is a mute point, there is no order, anywhere, for anyone to be a guru. We offered a $108,000 reward for any such proof that anyone was ordered, and no one has ever come forward to collect, especially Locanananda types who have never shown any order ever, because, there is no proof anyone was ever ordered to be a guru. As Tamal says, this (order to be guru) is a myth! ys pd

Anonymous account of Pishima (Prabhupada's sister)


PADA: We had heard that Srila Prabhupada had wanted Pishima to cook for him. If anyone else has info on this please forward to ys pd]

[Excerpt: When I asked Pishima what would happen to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s sincere disciples if ISKCON was destroyed, she explained that Śrīla Prabhupāda said that Krishna would protect them, and the devotees who had any spiritual intelligence would leave ISKCON before anything really bad happened. Events have borne this out.]

Dear Vaiṣṇavas,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!

I am an old disciple of Śrīla Prabhupāda who, for reasons that will become clear after you read the rest of this post, wishes to remain anonymous.

Many devotees have written messages pro and con the Gurukuli lawsuit. What both sides don't know is that the lawsuit is actually Śrīla Prabhupāda’s desire. Let me explain.

When Śrīla Prabhupāda passed away I was in India. At the time of his passing I was in Delhi doing some service for the Vṛndāvana mandir. As soon as I heard of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s passing, I rushed to Vṛndāvan only to find that the samādhi ceremony had already been performed. All the devotees were shocked and lamenting in separation. All that is, except the new "gurus", who were celebrating. Their mood was in such contrast to the rest of the devotees it really stood out.

As I entered the Vṛndāvan temple guesthouse I saw Śrīla Prabhupāda's sister Pishima. Spontaneously I paid my daṇḍavats to her. I had known Pishima a long time and she greeted me warmly. Pishima invited me to her room in the guesthouse and I was only too glad to spend some time in her association.

At this time Pishima, as the rest of us, were engulfed in grief at the passing of our Gurudeva. Through her tears and grief, Pishima told me many confidential things that day. She implored me to keep them secret until the proper time. Accordingly I have remained silent until the present situation has made disclosure of some of her confidences appropriate.

Pishima had already confided in me in Māyāpur in 1975 that Śrīla Prabhupāda was being poisoned to death. Śrīla Prabhupāda had brought her to Māyāpur to cook for him, and for a short time I was her kitchen helper. She was very concerned at the time that there was a conspiracy among Śrīla Prabhupāda’s leading disciples and the Gauḍīya Math to murder him and take over the movement.

At our meeting in Vṛndāvan after Śrīla Prabhupāda’s disappearance, Pishima confirmed that Śrīla Prabhupāda had been poisoned. Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her specifically that his inner circle of sannyāsīs were the poisoners.

Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her many other things as well. He said that he decided to accept the poisoning as Krishna's will. Just like Mahārāja Parīkṣit accepted Sringi's curse, he saw it as an opportunity to leave this world and return back to home. In addition, he wanted to destroy ISKCON.

I questioned Pishima closely on this point, because it seemed to be contrary to common sense. Pishima said that Śrīla Prabhupāda had determined that the leadership of ISKCON had deviated so completely from the actual teachings of the Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava sampradāya that he wanted to destroy the organization, lest they become another Catholic Church and attempt world domination.

According to Pishima, Śrīla Prabhupāda was totally disgusted with his disciples' failure to understand his pure Vrajabasi mood and that they became entangled in organizational politics. So he manipulated them into perfoming an elephant offense to destroy them. In this way he was just like Krishna who arranged to destroy His own family army, the Yadu dynasty, with a curse and a fratricidal war, lest they become too much of a burden for the earth.

Śrīla Prabhupāda was so humble he viewed his own life and self-preservation as nothing. At that point he was much more concerned about the continuity of the sampradāya. He sacrificed his life so that his bogus disciples would be cut down and stopped from preaching in the wrong way, from a neophyte platform.

When I asked Pishima what would happen to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s sincere disciples if ISKCON was destroyed, she explained that Śrīla Prabhupāda said that Krishna would protect them, and the devotees who had any spiritual intelligence would leave ISKCON before anything really bad happened. Events have borne this out.

Then I asked Pishima how the result of the elephant offense would manifest. She told me that Śrīla Prabhupāda predicted that the ISKCON movement would become embroiled in court cases that would destroy their properties and bank balance, stop their preaching and punish the so-called leaders. Now this is also happening.

Finally I asked Pishima how the movement would go on after all this devastation. Pishima replied that Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her that Krishna would take care, and that he had already picked one of his disciples to be his successor. But the successor would not manifest his potency until after the present structure of ISKCON was completely destroyed.

Pishima also told me many other things that Śrīla Prabhupāda told her that are not yet appropriate to reveal. I have kept these secrets in my heart these so many years. It is a relief to finally be able to see these predictions come true. Even though they are heavy, it assures me that Śrīla Prabhupāda knew everything all along, that Krishna is taking care of His movement, and that no cheater can cheat the greatest cheat without being thoroughly defeated in the end.

Very truly yours,

Anon Amos

Subject: Re: Lawsuit is Prabhupāda's Desire
Date: Sun, Aug 16 2000 13:44
From: mahaksadasa

I gotta back this story by anon amos, It almost sounds exactly like the source I used in the poisoning issue (the Internet version of IVC). It may well be the same person, (if it is, haribol, been over twenty years, but I remember you well).

The inner circle of power-mongers were engaged in their demoniac deeds long before maha-samadhi, my only regret is that those who were aware of the infiltration did not rescue Śrīla Prabhupāda from their chains of oppression and begin the lawsuit back then, with Him as our guide.


Mahavegavati dd Supports “Anon Amos” (
Mahavegavati Dāsī (VNNF: posted 08-17-2000 01:48 PM)

Incidentally, I can accept the post which was put up by Pratyatosha prabhu. I am not saying that I feel I "know" it is true, but I do feel that it can be true.

Another Amazing Letter: Ashvattama dāsa (ā&topic=lawsuit/forum/forum&order=date&article=166):
Subject: Re: Lawsuit is Prabhupāda's Desire
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2000 08:55
From: Ashvattama dāsa

Dear assembled devotees,

Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda.

In these days when dharma teeters on one leg -- truthfulness -- I was very excited to see the posting from "Anon" (though I'm pretty sure I know who he is, I'll respect his desire for privacy. I wouldn't want him to get killed by the GBC.)

Until I read this post, I thought I was the only one who Pishima had talked to that fateful fall in '77. I also approached her and after offering my full daṇḍavats, we too had a lengthy discussion about Śrīla Prabhupāda’s true desires for the future of ISKCON. It was EXACTLY like Anon describes.

However, I won't be so hesitant to reveal everything, because I think, now, finally, the time is ripe. We should all understand and celebrate Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mastery or the spiritual and material world and his spirit of renunciation. He would work for over 10 years to establish ISKCON, but he knew they were going to poison him and then take over and take the spirit out of the saṅkīrtana movement, so he was looking forward to the inevitable lawsuits that would destroy the corrupt organization. He even kept Tamal Krishna as his personal servant just so he would be poisoned as planned.

And he put Jagadish in charge of gurukula because he knew his misconceptions about how to raise Krishna conscious children, coupled with the low priority that the GBC would give to "family matters", all but ensured a lawsuit 20 years down the line. He also had Tamal -- Pishima witnessed this and told me -- put "henceforth" in the famous July 9th letter, which at the time seemed a bit strange to me, that in poor health Śrīla Prabhupāda would pay such excruciating attention to an apparently small detail. Now I realize that it was so that there would be grounds for Adridharana to sue the GBC in India as well.

So even though at the time I knew that many of the gurus were corrupt, and I knew that gurukulas weren't all they were supposed to be, I had to keep my mouth shut in order for Prabhupāda's plan, revealed to me in secret, to manifest. So while the zonal acharyas were throwing a party on the top floor of the guesthouse, I simply swallowed my tears. I actually had to leave the association of devotees for a while and perform service on my own, it was that painful.

The part that "Anon" has not revealed yet, but I feel it necessary to get out in the open now, is that Prabhupāda's designated successor is none other than Pratyatosh Prabhu. Pishima gave me the clues and now they all fall into place. He would be a sincere devotee who was often misunderstood and thought crazy, especially by anyone who knew him. However, she told me, he would slowly but surely manifest himself as the only person who understood the real place of Prabhupāda and ISKCON and Krishna via some "new way of preaching" as Pishima called it. I can only take that to refer to the Internet.

Now I know Pratyatosh will deny this in his humility, but I think it's time for all right thinking devotees to kick out the pretenders who obviously killed Prabhupāda so they could have sex with kids, and install Pratyatosh Prabhu as our living acharya. Pishima told me so and she couldn't be wrong.

[Pratyatoṣa Dāsa: It sounds to me like Pishima Prabhu didn't actually name any names ("Pishima gave me the clues."), but my being the next link in the disciplic succession is, I assume, simply Ashvattama Prabhu's opinion.

I've been thinking for years now that the most likely candidate for a new acharya would be someone from the third generation, who took ritvik initiation from Śrīla Prabhupāda. Didn't Śrīla Prabhupāda say that the third generation would be a generation of pure devotees? How can a person such as myself, who was born into a meat eating family, ever be any kind of an acharya in this lifetime?]

Dear PADA,

Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to His Divine Grace Śrīla Prabhupāda!

I was shocked by the anonymous letter regarding Pishima that appeared in your 8/17 newsletter. Some pretty drastic statements were made, and a lot of it didn't make sense to me for the following reasons:

1. Pishima did not speak English, so the person who had this conversation with her must have spoken fluent Bengali.

2. If Pishima invited the person into her room in the Vṛndāvan guesthouse, the person must have been a woman because it doesn't make sense that Pishima would invite a man into her room since Pishima was a very proper Vaiṣṇavī lady.

[Pratyatoṣa Dāsa: So, how could someone named "Ashvattama dāsa", who no one seems to have heard of, have had such a private conversation with Pishima?]

3. How many "old disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda" (as the writer claims to be) are there who are Bengali-speaking females?

4. When and where did Śrīla Prabhupāda spend so much time alone with his sister when he could have told her all these things?

5. The anonymous writer says, "Śrīla Prabhupāda was totally disgusted with his disciples' failure to understand his pure Vrajabasi mood" and "He sacrificed his life so that his bogus disciples would be cut down and stopped from preaching in the wrong way: from a neophyte platform."

The writer also states, "Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her …that he had already picked one of his disciples to be his successor."

These statements all sound very much like the rhetoric we hear from devotees who have become followers of persons from the Gauḍīya Math and Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja. These devotees seem to have developed a condescending attitude towards us lowly followers of Śrīla Prabhupāda and revel in pointing out our "neophyte" status. Also, most importantly, Śrīla Prabhupāda always said that he WOULD NOT "pick a successor", that the Guru is "self-effulgent." Regarding the mood displayed by Śrīla Prabhupāda during his time with us, to me he appeared like a Preaching Lion in Lord Caitanya's transcendental army. This "pure Vrajabasi mood" (whatever that means) is more the realm of the Gauḍīya Mat;ha and Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja followers, is it not?

[Pratyatoṣa Dāsa: But if "Anon Amos" is from the Gauḍīya Math, and trying to perpetrate a hoax, then why would he write: "…there was a conspiracy among Śrīla Prabhupāda’s leading disciples and the Gauḍīya Math to murder him and take over the movement."?]

I have an old friend, who I have lost touch with for the past 10 years, who was Pishima's personal servant in 1977 in Māyāpur. She considered Pishima to be a pure devotee, and Anonymous' letter just does not correlate with what my friend told me about Pishima. I would like to request that Anonymous come forward so that his/her story can be corroborated since some very grave allegations have been made. If Anonymous' letter is nothing more than a hoax, then it should be exposed as fraudulent. How despicable it would be for someone to manufacture these words and put them in our worshipable Pishima's mouth! Haven't we who are struggling to cling to Śrīla Prabhupāda's lotus feet suffered enough heartbreak? No more, please!

Monday, December 24, 2012

ISKCON cooking recipes

PADA: I have not checked this all out, if someone wants to write a review let me know. ys pd

Oh Holy Night by Charlotte Church

The bogus Jesus scam is disintegrating

First of all, the diksha gurus are absorbing the sins of their aspirant disciples, ok like Jesus is absorbing sins. Srila Prabhupada told us repeatedly in India: “Do not allow others to touch your feet or you will be acting as a guru, you will be absorbing their sins, and you will get very sick or fall down from taking their sins, which you are not qualified to absorb.” So when a neophyte tries to absorb sins like Jesus is doing, he is already fallen because he is denying these warnings.

The good news is that these gurus are in fact falling like flies into scandals, and others are getting sick all the time, for example some of them have major heart problems, strokes, headaches, diseases of all types and many are dying off, like Tamal, Gaura Govinda, Suhotra, Kirtanananda, Jayatirtha and others are dead, and some of them are even fallen into eating meat, some of them hate Krishna openly, and many of the rest of them are very sickly.

So this is very nice, those who try to imitate Jesus are getting their karma and I say, goody on that! Yes, only a fool thinks he can by-pass the direct orders of his guru and think he is the next sin absorbing Jesus on the planet, neophytes cannot be the next Jesus, this is impossible. Its all foolishness, and yet despite they are getting sick and dying and having constant scandals, they march onward, which proves, “fools rush in where angels fear to tread,” but since they are falling apart in so many ways, they are making it easy for us to expose their whole bogus Jesus scam. ys pd

Sunday, December 23, 2012

Dance Music w / Krishna mantra by DJ PADA

Krishna's appeal Moscow Eviction

Hare Krishna gurus outside of ISKCON

No funds for children's funeral?

Amazing, the GBC has a spare $15,000,000 (15 million dollars USA) to spend on suing the ritviks, which they are doing since 1997, but when a devotee's child dies, there is apparently hardly any money to take care of the child's body properly? Amazing! ys pd  

Acharya Board Appointed by Govinda Maharaja?

Ratnavrnda near death in San Deigo

Lenny Sislac: Ratnavrinda’s last days : ISKCON (Hare Krishna) of San Diego

"One of the ISKCON San Diego’s early devotees and pioneers, Mother Ratnavrnda, a disciple of Srila Prabhuapda, is very close to leaving her body. She will be with us for only a few more days, at most. Please spend a little time chanting to this wonderful devotee who has done so much service for Srila Prabhupaada.

KPDD: San Diego devotees, please go and chant for this mataji!

Lenny Sislac: Notice word choice, "early devotees" as if time to die is twice overdue. Hello! These devotees are about 60 and supposed to preach for another 30 years to all those youngsters. So it should be clear that GBC created such a hell for rank & file devotees, that their only option is to leave.

PADA: Yes, some of my neighbors here are 85 years old and they are still going to work every day. My neighbor who is 71 is outside in the freezing cold rain building a fence right now. Of course, they believe in Jesus, and thus they believe they are serving an actual pure devotee, which gives them inspiration and hopefulness. 

Srila Prabhupada said his guru God brothers gave him, "depression, repression, oppression." Thus it seems many ISKCON members are undergoing a sort of slow motion "death by depression, repression and oppression" from false gurus, because they could not steer themselves around this obstacle they way Srila Prabhupada was able to do, and / or attack them the way some of us have done, which at least gave some of us hope that we were changing the situation. Yes, for some the only option is to leave, I think this is one of the reasons so many "first generation" devotees are dying off before they even get to 65 years of age. Many are barely making it to 60. Something is wrong here, fer sure. ys pd

Wednesday, December 19, 2012

Spiritual parenting is important

There is no cause for anxiety (SPL Dec 19, 1972)

‎"Do not be disturbed. There is no cause for anxiety. You are doing your best to serve Krishna, that is very much appreciated, so do not lose enthusiasm out offrustration, that will spoil everything. Krishna Consciousness means we should always be satisfied and happy, not that we must work something impossible, becoming overburdened, and then because we are unhappy by so much trouble we lose enthusiasm altogether and give up all hope. No, if too much endeavour is there, that is to be avoided. By all means we must preserve our spiritual status, that is the point, not that we are mad after big buildings, many devotees, life-members, this, that—no, these are only ways to engage the devotees so that they may apply the principles of devotional living to some kind of work for practical realization of these principles. It is not the result of the work we want. If only one person daily, if we sincerely preach to such one person in a day, that is sufficient, never mind big, big programmes. So my request to you is that you do not be bothered by these things, and I have instructed Tamala Krishna and Syamasundara to send you men, so they will do it, rest assured. 

Krishna does not like to see His sincere devotee suffer or become frustrated or depressed. 

He will not stand idly by in any such case, so do not fear on that account. Krishna has got some plan for you, always think in that way, and very soon He will provide everything to your heart's desire."
Srila Prabhupada letter to Tejyas, Dec. 19, 1972

Tuesday, December 18, 2012

For the devotee the world is happiness

For a non devotee, the world is full of problems, whereas for a devotee the entire world is full of happiness.
SB 10.2.24

Prithu dasa still lecturing in ISKCON

PADA: Yes prabhu, Prithu dasa is still running around ISKCON and giving lectures and so forth, because the GBC is preaching that gurus fall down and what he has done is normal for acharyas and messiahs, and he is still a highly respected person in GBC circles. Correct. ys pd 

ISKCON goes more "interfaith" hodge podge

Monday, December 17, 2012

The "appointment tape" audio

All devotional processes are absolute

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda (ISKCON Founder Acharya)--

So because these activities, devotional activities, are on the spiritual platform, all of them are Absolute. It is not that if you are hearing but you are not chanting, then your result will be little less than the other who is hearing and chanting. No. It is Absolute Truth. Just like if you taste a sugar candy, lump of sugar candy, from any side you taste, the sweetness is there. There is no difference, that if you taste this side, then it is more sweet than the other side. Kṛṣṇa is complete Absolute Truth. So any side. If you become expert in hearing, that is as good as one is engaged in other eight processes or nine processes. That is stated in the śāstra. Just like Parīkṣit Mahārāja. He simply listened. He did not do any other process. Śrī-viṣṇu-śravaṇe parīkṣit. They got liberation simply by executing one of the nine different processes.

(Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975)

Pattern of cover ups in ISKCON

Sunday, December 16, 2012

ISCOWP now on Facebook

A few samkirtana photos / Krishna in Hollister CA


Vishnu purana Videos on you tube

Have a Mary Mary Christmas

"Hark the Herald Angels Sing" by Mary Mary 

Get your Vaishnava calender for 2013

Paintings by Vishnudasa, very nice. Call 1-800-927-4152 or order online at ys pd

When did Narayana Maharaja agree with HDG?

Narayana Maharaja never agreed with Srila Prabhupada? He said the yani kani prayers of Prabhupada are karma kanda, he said it is an offense to have Lord Nrsingha in a Radha Krishna temple, he said it is good to have gurus voted in every year at Mayapura, except gurus are not "voted in" according to Prabhupada, and so on. NM never agreed to major siddhanta points of HDG the whole time. And in 1972 NM was the person asking Gaudiya Math people to boycott Srila Prabhupada. I was there. [Narayana Maharaja wanted the Gaudiya Matha to boycott us in 1972] I describe that here: Why do we want the people who boycott HDG to be part of anything? NM never changed, he was always going against HDG the whole time. ys pd

The GBC were saying all through the 1980s that Narayana Maharaja is the shiksa guru of ISKCON, and NM was all the time lecturing at all the temples being advertised as a pure devotee etc, he was the keynote speaker at all kinds of festivals, he was giving rasika classed to a group of the GBC gurus, and anyone who protested this was banned from ISKCON. The GBC gurus were the people promoting NM as a pure devotee, and anyone who protested was banned. The GBC are the party who introduced NM into ISKCON in the first place. If you are selling Ford cars, you do not invite in the Chevvy car dealers to start selling cars on your lot, this is how you will lose your business and go bankrupted. And all of the GBC gurus who brought in NM, and Fakir Mohan etc. and who knows what else, are still considered as the gurus of ISKCON, never mind they are spawning competition for ISKCON. None of this has been addressed properly. ys pd


PADA: Thats fine prabhu, but we should not be now promoting people like Fakir Mohan, and some of the GBC's gurus are reading the babajis writings, and worse open Mayavadi gurus are being invited to speak in ISKCON temples, and so on, this is the same problem still going on. We need to get away from all these outside influences, and we need to demand the GBC gurus to quit going to these sources or this pattern simply repeats. None of these outside influences were authorized by HDG. Plain and simple.

TP: yes

PADA: That was my point, and so going there is a deviation from his instructions, do not mix with my God brothers, of course some of these Mayavadis are not even God brothers, they are totally separated from Vaishnava teachings. Fakir Mohan has mayavada ideas also

TP: yes

PADA: So the root issue is, the GBC as a group are deviating by creating these out croppings and thereby spawning competition for ISKCON. Which HDG warned would happen. When I was in Mayapura we were told not to visit them, at all.

ISKCON early history pt.3 *MAYAPURA 1972* by
ISKCON history

These God brothers were antagonistic as well as deviating. Please watch this and let me know what you think, ys pd

BV Puiri confirms NM boycott program

Book changes discussion group

Saturday, December 15, 2012

Hansadutta letter to Kirtanananda 1993

Singapore, 2. October 1993

Dear Kirtanananda Maharaj
Please accept my humble obeisances.

I thought now is the time to remind you of what you said to me upon meeting you at New Vrindaban after my fall from Guru and Sannyas. Seeing my condition, and anticipating the ensuing chaos and confusion amongst the new disciples, you said, "This is why I suggested so strongly that ISKCON should adopt the RITTVIK process of initiation for the new Gurus!!" It has been a long time since then, but after all is said and done, I have personally realized the truth of this statement. Rittvik representatives is all that PRABHUPADA ever sanctioned us to be -not ACHARYAS or GURUS.

After years of anguish and confusion over this issue, I have by the mercy of Prabhupada, come to take shelter in his instruction: "Act as Rittvik of the Acharya." I think it is time for me to repay the debt I owe you for giving me shelter when I was so broken and lost in my spiritual life.

I humbly suggest you consider the fact that Prabhupada never authorized us to be Gurus, but restrained our ambition by designating some men to act as his deputies, or Rittvik representatives. Better late than never. Give up the false posture of Guru Acharya and consider acting as the humble servant of the Acharya, as a Rittvik representative. That is the solution for you and all the ISKCON Gurus.

If you step back, resume your sadhana and service attitude towards Srila Prabhupada as his rittvik representative exactly as you used to do for him when he was still physically present, then most devotees will probably stand by you. Many will return to your guidance. You have nothing to lose by taking this humble position, except the false prestige of being a guru acharya, which is haunting you like a ghost.

New Vrindaban is a wonderful place, and it was built under your charge, but only because the devotees were empowered y Prabhupada, on account of their sincere desire to serve him (Srila Prabhupada). In other words, they enthusiastically accepted so much sacrifice, penance and austerity to help you build New Vrindaban, because they saw your sincere determination and desire to please Prabhupada.

Of all the godbrothers, you have accomplished the most monumental task by the building and development of New Vrindaban community. On the other hand, you now stand on the precipice of the total ruin of all you have accomplished, if you obstinately stick to your false posture as the acharya and guru. The godbrothers are waiting like vultures to devour you, New Vrindaban and all the devotees, because more or less all of them are haunted Prabhupada the same ghost of false prestige, thinking, "I am the guru, and all should serve my feet." has remarked the fast two pitfalls of maya are to think one's self as God and the other is to think one's self as guru.

By taking your proper position as Srila Prabhupada's menial servant, no better today than the day you first met him in Nework, you will save yourself and possibly your example could save the whole ISKCON movement.

You said you want to save ISKCON, but that requires saving yourself first.

As your younger godbrother, I have taken the liberty to attempt to instruct you. Please excuse my impudence. Whatever I have written is my deep, heartfelt concern for you, all the devotees with you, the wonderful creation of Prabhupada's Palace of Gold and of course, Srila Prabhuada, our beloved spiritual master, by whose mercy we have all been awakened to the highest ideal of preaching love of Krishna to the whole world. As the first and foremost of Prabhupada's disciples, be the first to demonstrate yourself as his rittvik representative. I am prepared to help you in every way, if you do the right thing.

I sincerely hope you are well. I mean you no ill will. I always admire you, but at this time I feel compelled to give you this important advice.

Your humble servant,
Hansadutta dasa

ISKCON spawns its own competition

Does ISKCON Have Pure Devotees ?

Some followers from an infamous "rival" sanga who like to prey on ISKCON's resources have the audacity to criticise ISKCON for not having any "pure devotees" and that only their camp has a pure devotee or pure devotees. Yesterday evening HG Vaisesika prabhu gave a marvelous seminar at our New Remuna Dhama ISKCON temple in Toronto. Quoting from Srila Rupa Goswami, he sited the verse krsneti yasya giri tam.... and in summary stated that there are three qualities Verifiable in an Uttama Adhikari, a devotee of the highest order.

They are :

1. They are steady in their devotional service
2. They know the Sastra
3. They are always giving Krsna conciousness to others

In addition to all the youth getting inspired here by him, I am watching Vaisesika prabhu fire up old Indian grannies to go out on book distribution. How many senior devotees personally go out to lead the charge on Srila Prabhupada's book distribution, what to speak of firing up old Indian grannies to put their book bags on. Vaisesika prabhu quotes sastra very well, is very steady in his devotional service and fires everyone up around him to give Krsna to others. How much pure devotee do you need to see than that ? If you can't recognize a pure devotee from these standards then that must mean you are pretty dull, don't know the scriptures , or you are pretty envious and don't deserve to be in ISKCON anyways :)

By this standard, I know that there is at least one pure devotee in ISKCON, and probably many others. Srila Prabhupada once said that one is a pure devotee in as much as they are following.

Sanatana Goswami Das Nice points although I thought the point about "deserve to be in ISKCON" was somewhat derogatory and assumes that it is a matter of qualification rather than reposed faith that determines our affiliation. At least that is how it came across to me. Whatever the sanga the real function of that sanga is to facilitate association with sadhus, preferably ones that deeply inspire us. Krishna is not restricted by institutional walls and will manifest thru his guru-tattva in whatever form is required according to the necessity of the individual.
Besides all that I agree that Vaisesika Pb is outstanding and that when others claim to have the monopoly on purity then all they have done is exhibited their lack of understanding.

PADA: The rival sanghas are probably folks like the Narayana Maharaja camp, of course in the 1980s it was the GBC's gurus themselves who were promoting NM, and at that time their big gurus said anyone in ISKCON who did not accept that Narayana Maharaja is a pure devotee has to leave ISKCON. So it is the GBC who has been the number one group spawning ISKCON's "competing sanghas." No one seems to mention how the NM camp was spawned in the first place, it was a creation of the GBCs own gurus in the 1980s and all the way to the mid-1990s. I know because I opposed the NM "rasika camp" that was growing at the time, and was told to keep quiet by these guru leaders. ys pd

Do not make false pure devotee factions (by HDG)

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda (ISKCON Founder Acharya)--

Your next question, after leaving this material realm does the devotee remain forever with his spiritual master? The answer is yes. But I think you have got the mistaken idea in this connection. You speak of pure devotee, that he is saktyavesa avatara, that we should obey him only—these things are the wrong idea. If anyone thinks like that, that a pure devotee should be obeyed and no one else, that means he is a nonsense. We advise everyone to address one another as Prabhu. Prabhu means master, so how the master should be disobeyed? Others, they are also pure devotees. All of my disciples are pure devotees. Anyone sincerely serving the spiritual master is a pure devotee, it may be Siddhasvarupa or others, a-Siddhasvarupa. This must be very clearly stated. It is not only that your Siddhasvarupa is a pure devotee and not others. Do not try to make a faction. Siddhasvarupa is a good soul. But others should not be misled. Anyone who is surrendered to the spiritual master is a pure devotee, it doesn't matter if Siddhasvarupa or non-Siddhasvarupa. Amongst ourselves one should respect others as Prabhu, master, one another. As soon as we distinguish here is a pure devotee, here is a non-pure devotee, that means I am a nonsense. 

(Letter to: Tusta Krsna -- Ahmedabad 14 December, 1972)

Friday, December 14, 2012

Preaching that gurus fall down now common

What is a "former guru"?

Swami Balendu: Public Figure, Author, Speaker, Counselor, Blogger and former Guru "No Religion Please."
PADA: Never heard these terms before, former guru, of what? ys pd

ISKCON temple web cams

Krishna1008 readership is growing nicely!

Krishna1008 blog site 


Numbers of readers are:

1) USA (most readers)
2) India
3) Russia
4) Australia
5) England
6) Brazil
7) Germany
8) Tied in many other places.

PADA readership has been growing more and more and we appreciate all our viewers! ys pd


Lord Tirupati Venkataveshvara

ISKCON band "Om Namoh Bhagavate Vasudevaya"

Radhanath program promotes sex therapist?

Thursday, December 13, 2012

Lost Devotee productions / Srila Prabhupada mix

PADA: Yep, the translations are not fer sure, and the audios are often bogus people. I am presenting "for public interest." People who can identify which translations are good and so on, please comment. And if there are other and more bona fide song sites, please let me know as well. ys pd

ISKCON Berkeley joins facebook

Danavir's weak explanation of poison issue

Another younger devotee has cancer

PADA: This is in my opinion, not normal, that so many nice vaishnavas are getting TERMINAL illnesses at younger ages, in this case the daughter of a senior devotee who is still living. Also notice that there are no funds to care for this younger woman and the father is thus going bankrupt caring for the daughter, meanwhile the GBC spends $15,000,000 on lawyers suing Bangalore temple. ys pd

Download Lectures From Bangalore devotees!

Without qualified guru, its all bogus (HDG Lecture)

[PADA: Thanks Dhamaghosa dasa for sending this nectar.]

761101SB.VRN Lectures 
Srila Prabhupada: So for that, there are so many practices, regulative principles,mentioned here. The first thing is hamse gurau mayi bhaktyanuvrtya.This is religion. Adau gurvasrayam. If you do not get a qualified guru, then everything is bogus.

If you, by good fortune, if you get the association of a guru, qualified hamsa, paramahamsa ... Paramahamsa guru means sannyasi's last stage is paramahamsa. Kuticaka, bahudaka,parivrajakacarya, and paramahamsa, these are the different stages. When one takes sannyasa, he lives outside the village in a kuti, in a cottage, and the family members goes and delivers him the food, because he is not practiced.

So in the beginning, he keeps up this association of neighborhood or family, but he is not practiced. He therefore lives outside the village, and if somebody gives some food, he eats. Then when he becomes experienced, then he does not accept food from one, either his own home or one home. He takes foodstuff from many homes: "Give me a little piece of capati." So somebody gives half, because they are also not over burdened. If they have to deliver, so many sannyasis come, and sumptuous food, then how the grhastha will provide?

Therefore though ... They do not overburden. There may be other sannyasis, therefore little only. Madhupuri. The Gosvamis practiced this madhupuri in Vrndavana. They lived, but they would take little only from the house. This is called bahudaka. Then when he has practiced more, he travels all over the world, parivrajakacarya. And when he is fully experienced, then, in spiritual life and everything, then he is paramahamsa.

So one must find out a guru who is paramahamsa. Neither kuticaka, nor bahudaka, nor parivrajakacarya. Paramahamsa. So in the Caitanya-caritamrta also, Lord Caitanya says, guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija. This bhakti-lata-bija can be obtained through the mercy of guru and Krsna. Here Rsabhadeva, who is incarnation of Krsna, therefore He says mayi, hamse gurau mayi. You cannot jump over (to) Krsna. "Well, I know Krsna. I shall go to Krsna directly, without guru." There are many rascals, they say like that. No, that is not possible.

First of all guru, then Krsna. Hamse gurau mayi, bhaktyanuvrtya. So these are description, this is the beginning. If we actually practice the description of the prescription given in the sastra, then it will be possible that, as it is said, karmanubaddho drdha aslatheta. Then our strong desire to enjoy this material world in different way, that will be slackened. That is wanted.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya! (end)

Tulsi is the first Hindu in US Government House

Does Supersoul help His devotees?

Thanks prabhu, Right, the Supersoul knew I wanted a copy of the will, so He got it for me in 1985. He knew I wanted a copy of the appointment tape, so He got it for me also in 1985, He also knew I wanted a copy of the 1977 conversations transcripts, so He got them for me in 1990. In the transcripts it said "conversation about poison in Hindi," but there was no transcript. So I prayed, I really need a copy of the tape of this "poison" conversation. And in 1997 my prayer was answered, I got the copy. So I wanted all these things, and they fell into my hands one by one, so you are quite correct: Supersoul certainly provides for the jiva. That is is the correct idea. I have a friend at work, he always wanted a Corvette, and now he has one, so this is always the case, Supersoul provides what we jivas desire. God provides what we desire via the Supersoul. He is there, no question, because there is no other way I would have gained access to all these materials without His divine intervention, never mind I would not be alive without His divine intervention. He is there, and all this has magnified my faith in HDG and Krishna many times over, man proposes, God disposes. That is what HDG says all the time, and he is right. Meanwhile another group is always out there trying to challenge my presentation of HDG's documents, and basically they want to subvert, alter, attack, ban, check, harass, nullify, and totally stop me, and maybe even have me murdered, and in sum take me down, and there is only one reason they have not been able to stop and check me, the Supersoul has, without question, protected me, there is no doubt in my mind that is the case. And so now that we have presented all these "hidden" documents of HDG, it is up to a group of his sincere followers to agree to those documents, and that is occuring as we speak. So that is also the mercy of the Supersoul. ys pd

Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Prabhupadanuga Upcoming Festivals

We are happy to announce ISKCON INC festival schedule for the next one year. Those Prabhupadanuga interested in attending these festivals can write to me email:



EUROPEAN FESTIVAL: 27th March to April 1st
Location:Frankfurt City,Germany.
Host :Mathias Sabji prabhu

Location: London City.
Host : Nimai Nitay Das, Prahlad Das and Chandra Shaker prabhu

Location:Prince Edward Island
Host: Gaura Nitai Das and Lala Gopala Devi

Location: Rio de Janeiro
Host: Sugriva Dasa ,Nanda Maharaj Dasa and Dhanurdhara Dasa

Location: NEW YORK

HOST:ISKCON Long Island temple


Prabhupadanuga pilgrimage tour to India in Feb/March

Your servant
Gaurangasundar Dasa
(ISKCON inc communication director )