Sunday, July 31, 2016

A Day in Vrndavana (video)

"Cost of Silence" Russian Language Version

[PADA: Well if the GBC and their gurus had been silent, that would have been very useful. However! They were not silent whatsoever, they viciously and vehemently orchestrated attacks on anyone who brought forward these deviations. We "dissenters" were thus systematically banned, beaten up, and assassinated. They were not silent at all on these issues -- like child molesting, they were vociferously vocal -- against us, and they still are. 

Anyone who objected got their giant jack boots in face treatment. That is why we had to go outside the framework of their authority and seek help from to the police, FBI, Federal Marshals, courts and public mass medias. And there are still a lot of cry babies out there who are upset we went over their heads and over to these outside authorities. 

OK, but we won because right now, most people agree with us, these guys were orchestrating a mass molesting program. And as a result of our taking them on, hundreds of children were pulled out of their schools -- and were saved. Now these folks are drafting a constitution, good idea, hope they finally include a program for the protection of children, and for the removal and legal prosecution of the people who orchestrated this mass abuse program. 

ys pd]    

Tripurari Swami vs Moon Landing Hoax

[PADA: Tripurari swami appears to be saying there is some overwhelming evidence that we went to the moon, you mean like the "moon rock" which turned out to be petrified wood? Of course he is also writing encouragement to GALVA, the gay and lesbian vaishnava association, along with Hrdayananda. 

OK if we are supposed to give up illicit sex, where is the need for the gay and lesbian association program? That process should be conducted outside the official ISKCON society and not be a formal part of it. Of course Tripurari's mentor Sridhara Maharaja supported a homosexual guru program after 1936 and again after 1977, so they seem to have sympathy for this agenda even in the acharya's seat, never mind elsewhere.

I think that these guys have had a very liberal interpretation of all sorts of things, for example their idea that acharyas can fall down and be deviants. 

There really seems to be no overwhelming evidence that we went to the moon, and even a NASA specialist wrote recently that we have no means of putting a human through the Van Allen Belt that surrounds the earth, because of its toxic radiation. There are also hundreds of videos about various problems with photos and videos of the alleged moon landing, never mind many expert people do not believe an antique computer that has less capacity than a Nintendo hand held device could bring a rocket to the moon and back, it would not have the computational power required. 

Suffice it to say, there is no overwhelming evidence that we went there, there is however overwhelming evidence these people are doubtful about the Vedic process. ys pd]

Saturday, July 30, 2016

Ramayana Epic -- English Movie

Christie Brinkley's Meatless Diet

The GBC's ISKCON Constitution Committee

GBC are prone to maya, therefore, they are gurus?

ISKCON Constitution

Srila Prabhupada

A GBC member cannot go beyond the jurisdiction of his power. We are in the experimental stage but in the next meeting of the GBC members they should form a constitution how the GBC members manage the whole affair. But it is a fact that the local president is not under the control of the GBC. Yes, for improvement of situations such as this I must be informed of everything.

Letter to: 

Giriraja  --London 12 August, 1971

Srila Prabhupada

That is our real work, to educate people in spiritual life by giving them the practical example, so I wanted that the GBC would be a chosen body of men for that purpose, to see how the students are learning and reporting to me as my secretaries. I do not know how you could have missed these points, as they are clearly spelled out in my original constitution. Anyway, whatever is done, is done. So I am very glad that you are leading all others in book distribution, so you go on with your work in this way and Krishna will give you all the clear idea of how to do everything.

Letter to: Satsvarupa  --

Tokyo 2 May, 1972

Note that this is about one year after the Direction of Management which Srila Prabhupada referred to as "original Constitution":

[PADA: Oh great, the Direction of Management was never implemented either.]

Srila Prabhupada

As far as your proposals are concerned the real thing is that we must make broader constitution of the management by GBC. But the difficulty is that our GBC men are falling victim to maya. Today I trust this GBC and tomorrow he will fall down. That is the difficulty. If the GBC men are so flickering then what to speak of the others. Unless this problem is solved whatever we may resolve it will not be very useful. We shall discuss this at our meeting. If the GBC men can ever manage properly then I shall get some time for writing my books.Letter to: Jayatirtha  --Bombay 16 December, 1974

[PADA: There you have it. In 1974 it was well known to many of the members of our ISKCON society and especially the leaders -- that the GBC overall were flickering, were constantly falling victim to maya, and in other letters Srila Prabhupada complained the GBC were gossiping on the telex, were not chanting their rounds, were not following the principles (were engaged in illicit behaviors) and so forth. 

So how did this same group of people become telescoped to become "Vishnupada acharyas" three years later -- in December of 1977? This makes no sense. And this is the root problem here: The GBC has tried to claim that 11 of their flickering members ... who are prone to maya; who are prone to illicit sex; who are prone to watching football; who are prone to criticize Srila Prabhupada; who are prone to become atheistic Buddhists (as one GBC did); who are prone to saying LSD and marijuana are "Radha's feet dust"; who are prone to be arrested for having a machine gun in their car; who are prone to be watching pornography videos; and according to Jayadvaita swami -- are in general prone to illicit sex with men, women and children -- ad infinitum, are "Lord Krishna's successor gurus." 

Of course even the average mundane man on the street knows that people contaminated with these "anarthas" or unwanted desires are NOT gurus. How did they become gurus, how did that happen? So this is the key actual history that needs to be explained, why did the GBC think that people prone to all of the above deviations (and more) are diksha gurus, parampara members and acharyas?]  



o Srila Prabhupada oversees GBC Resolutions
o Key foundational principles established 

•1978 –2006

o Expansion of ISKCON Laws
o Several attempts to draft a formal constitution

[PADA: Right, the post 1978 documents were co-drafted with people like Sridhara Maharaja, and he was the person who advised the GBC's "2/3 show of hands guru voting." And this deviation has now been fully implemented, along with thousands of other "rules," which were never authorized by Srila Prabhupada.  

One bogus and concocted "rule" is for example: right now a PADA reader has complained about the GBC's "rule" that he has to accept another GBC guru -- after his first two acharyas fell down. And so I explained to this person that none of this "gurus falling down left, right and center" process was ever discussed or authorized by Srila Prabhupada. Rather, Srila Prabhupada says anyone who thinks gurus are constantly falling down is an aparadhi. And the GBC has made many other bogus and dodgy rules about gurus being censured, monitored, suspended, removed for deviations, excommunicated and so forth, also -- not mentioned anywhere by Srila Prabhupada.]

•2007 –Present

o ISKCON Constitution committee at work
o Five GBC review / redraft cycles so far
o Expanding circle of input and feedback


• GBC Committee:

o Bhaktimarga Swami
o Hrdaya Caitanya das
o Sesa das

• Drafting Committee:

o Bhaktarupa das
o Pancharatna das
o Prema Bhakti das
o Shalagram das

•Drafting Advisors: 

o Akruranath Das
o Dvarakadisa das
o Parivadi das
o Vedavyasa das

Core Principles

Establish the foundational principles that govern, guide and inspire ISKCON 
Address both structure and values.
Be more inspirational, less legalistic 
Leave details to ISKCON Law.


To preserve Srila Prabhupada’s direction for ISKCON
To delineate ISKCON’s structure of governance
To inspire the members and encourage cooperation
To clarify the scope of power in individuals and entities
To determine responsibilities of individuals and entities
To protect the rights of individuals and entities


Brief document 
Supporting papers explaining rationale


















GBC Scope & Responsibilities
GBC Geographic representation


Continue to work with Org. Dev. On Membership and GBC issues
Create supporting documents
Widen the circle of input
Prepare for public feedback 
Strive for unanimous agreement from GBC body
Strive for consensus  amongst ISKCON leaders
Ratify when ready. Goal is by 2016

Feedback process

Attend ILS seminar for full review of draft document
Complete printed feedback form at ILS.
Complete online feedback form.


Draft is not ready for public circulation

ISKCON Purposes

•League of Devotees (1953) –marked up for USA

o (A) To propagate spiritual knowledge systematically for checking the imbalance of life, to the whole world over with a view to educate the people in general in the techniques of spiritual life as the basis of balanced psychic and biological development of the human race and thus to achieve real unity peace of the contending elements of the world situation. 

• Constitution of Association (1966)

o (A) To educate the greater human society in the techniques of spiritual life as the basis for a balanced psychic and biological development, and thereby achieve for the first time in human society a real peace and unity among the contending forces in the world today.

• Articles of Incorporation (1966)

(B) To systematically propagate spiritual knowledge to society at large and to educate all peoples in the techniques of spiritual life in order to check the imbalance of values in life and to achieve real unity and peace in the world.

For more information please contact

[PADA: Sounds great. Lets draft a constitution. Unfortunately, the same group of people who have been ENFORCING -- sometimes with cult violence -- that God's guru successors are often found engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, and maybe goats, are the apparent people in charge of writing this document? Or what? The same people who have been in charge of the -- cult enforced ritualistic worship of deviants as acharyas -- are now going to save their own self-created Frankenstein monster bogus guru crisis situation -- that they created themselves?  

First of all, they'd need to find some people who have a basic understanding of common religion principles, i.e. that God is pure and so are His successors, before they can write anything of value. The same people who reinstate sex with taxi drivers as their Vishnupada acharyas need to find people outside that circle if they want to write anything of tangible value. 

And for the same reason, if they wanted their document to have a shred of credibility, they'd need to find better people than their current illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club members as their writers. Meanwhile, as the GBC struggles to figure out their actual status, and they discuss what capacity they are supposed to operate as, either as fallible kanistha Governing Body members who are subject to human frailties and maya, or as absolute uttama acharyas, they are still banning, removing and suing anyone who disagrees with what appears to be -- a massive misunderstanding of the basics of our siddhanta.

Anyway this is a good start, we are prone to maya, so therefore, we are NOT gurus. We lied to you this whole time. ys pd]  


Kalasamvara: Prabhupada, when you leave this material world, will there be another spiritual master after you? Another pure soul?

Prabhupada: Then that spiritual master is Kṛṣṇa Himself. There is no need of education. Everyone is free. Everyone is full knowledge. There is no need of spiritual master.

Morning walk, conversation.
May 22nd 1975. Melbourne.

Montreal Prabhupadanugas Newsletter

Saints Discuss Vrndavana Monkey Menace

Friday, July 29, 2016

World Holy Name Week

Gargamuni Prabhu -- ISKCON's Early Days


13,000 Gitas For Rajasthan Schools

Demons Represent Different Anarthas (Srila Bhaktivinod Thakura)


In his Sri Caitanya Siksamrta Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura gives the following summary of the demons Krsna killed in His Vrndavana pastimes and the anarthas they represent. (Of course we should note that not in all cases is Lord Krsna dealing with demons as such, like in the pastime of the Brahma-vimohana-lila, and the lifting of Govardhana Hill, although He is always dealing with people who have antagonistic mentalities.)

1. Putana represents The pseudo-guru, which may be either a person or one’s own conditioned mind.
The pseudo-guru may appear in one or both of two forms:

A deceitful, so-called guru who preaches sense gratification or liberation or both. In some cases this may be a person who is engaged in some Krsna conscious activity but has not realized the course of pure devotional service and tries to give instructions to his disciples beyond his own understanding, or without regard for their situations.

The inwardly manifest "spiritual" guide, in the form of the mundane empiric reasoning faculty (the material mind), is also like Putana.

2. Sakatasura (the cart demon). The tendency to carry the cartload of bad habits accumulated in this life and previous lives. He also represents lethargy and dullness.

3. Deliverance of Nalakuvara and Manigriva (breaking the twin arjuna trees). Arrogant pride from puffed-up aristocracy, rooted in madness for wealth.

4. Vatsasura (the calf-demon). A childish type of mentality which gives rise to a type of greediness which results in a wicked type of mischievousness.

5. Bakasura (the duck/stork demon). Cunning duplicity, deceptiveness and false types of behaviour.

6. Aghasura (the snake demon). Cruelty and violence.

7. Brahma-vimohana lila (Lord Brahma steals the cowherd boys and calves). Mundane activities and speculative scholasticism.

8. Dhenukasura (the ass demon). Dhenukasura is the evil of licentiousness, gain, honor and aspiration for selfish end.Gross materialistic intelligence, ignorance of spiritual knowledge.

9. Kaliya (chastising the Kaliya serpent). Brutality and treachery.

10. Extinguishing the First Forest Fire. Inter-communal discord among Vaisnavas.

11. Pralambasura (killing the Pralamba demon). Lusty inclinations desire for personal gain or honour.

12. The Second Forest Fire. Disruption of religious principles and interference with religious people by atheism.

13. Correcting the Brahmanas Performing Sacrifice. Callousness towards Krsna due to pride because of one's position in varnasrama.

14. Overcoming the Pride of Lord Indra, Demigod worship, and the tendency to think "I am Supreme."

15. Nanda Maharaja Stolen by Varuna. Thinking that spiritual life can be enhanced by intoxication.

16. Nanda Maharaja Delivered from the Snake. Rescuing the truth of eternal Krsna consciousness which has been swallowed by impersonalists.

17. Sankhacuda (killing the conch-shell demon and retrieving the jewel stolen by him). Proneness towards acquiring name and fame, and desire for sensuous enjoyment, under the plea of devotion.

18. Aristasura (the bull demon).Pride arising from indulging in false religions invented by cheaters which causes neglect of bhakti.

19. Kesi (the horse demon). The feeling that "I am a great devotee and spiritual master"

20. Vyomasura (the sky demon). Associating with thieves and other rascals, and with people who put themselves forward as avataras.

21.Trnavarta (the whirlwind demon). The false pride arising from material scholarship, which gives rise to bogus philosophies.

Bhaktivinoda Thakura says:

"The devotee who worships the holy name should first petition the Lord for the strength to cast out all these unfavourable tendencies — and should pray thus before Lord Hari on a daily basis. By doing this regularly, the devotee's heart will eventually become purified. Sri Krsna has killed a number of demons which may arise in the kingdom of the heart — so in order to destroy these problems, a devotee must cry very humbly before the Lord and admit defeat — then the Lord will nullify all contaminations."

Thursday, July 28, 2016

Hrdayananda Swami's "Guru Reform" Paper Pt. 2

Prabhupada’s Will and the GBC

The first article of Prabhupada’s final Declaration of Will states that “the Governing Body Commission (GBC) will be the ultimate managing authority of the entire International Society for Krishna consciousness.”

[PADA: I actually asked Hrdayananda where it is stated that 11 gurus were appointed by Srila Prabhupada, and he told me "its in the (last) will." I told him -- I had read "the will" and there is no appointment of 11 gurus found there, and he was shocked that I had even seen the will. They hid these documents and I had to get my copy of "the will" out of Hansadutta's safe at the temple. I made photocopies and everyone who got a copy agreed, they had not ever seen the will. Why was Hrdayananda's party hiding these documents?] 

Prabhupada often warned his disciples not to follow the tragic example of the Gauḍīya Maṭha which disintegrated because Prabhupada’s Godbrothers did not follow their Guru’s order to form a GBC.

[PADA: Right, the Gaudiya Matha made false acharyas, and Hrdayananda's team did the same thing, and the ISKCON GBC even went to Sridhara Maharaja for advice, knowing he is the founder of the Gaudiya Matha's false guru deviation. Dissenters to the 1936 false acharyas were beaten and killed, and some dissenters to Hrdayananda's false gurus were also beaten and killed. Later on after 1936, the Gaudiya Matha folks started a sort of guru voting type process, and Hrdayananda's group started the same exact guru voting system. 

Some of the Gaudiya Matha's gurus were homosexuals, and so were some of the GBC's. Of course, since most of the GBC's gurus were from a much more degraded Western origin than folks born as brahmanas and so forth in India, Hrdayananda's program had far worse false acharya's results -- like child molesting, drug taking gurus, illicit sex with men, women and children gurus, and so on, because the Western culture would make far worse false acharyas. 

Since Hrdayananda knew all along that we were not supposed to introduce these deviations, he is criminally liable for creating these same deviations, and he will thus be judged for promoting such mayhem heavily in the courts of Yamaraja. As Srila Prabhupada says, the post of GBC is very responsible and if its misused "as the post is great so the punishment for misuse is also very great."  

So, these so-called GBC people created an illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs program, which bans, beats and kills vaishnavas, molests vaishnava children, and creates a huge criminal infrastructure, so we can hardly imagine the punishments that await the participants in these deviations, never mind they also ruined the name of Krishna all over the planet which is itself a severe aparadha -- because its turning millions of people away from Krishna. And that is why Srila Prabhupada says these veda vada rata false guru people go to the darkest, dankest, most horrible destinations after they leave their bodies, because they have thrown others into darkness. As Sulochana said, "they showed no mercy to us, so they will not get any from the higher authority."] 

"Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, at the time of his departure, requested all his disciples to form a governing body and conduct missionary activities cooperatively. He did not instruct a particular man to become the next acarya. But just after his passing away, his leading secretaries made plans, without authority, to occupy the post of acarya, and they split in…factions over who the next acarya would be.” [CC 1.12.8-10 Purport]

[PADA: Fantastic, so the GBC knew all along that they had no authority to make these false acharyas and create factions, beatings, mass molesting, murders etc. as happened in the Gaudiya Matha's false guru system.They knowingly acted sinfully. They knew this was sinful the whole while! That saves Lord Yamaraja a whole lot of work, he does not even have to ask them if they knew they were wrong to create these bogus acharya factions, they knew it all along! So this is called knowingly acting sinfully.] 

Prabhupada himself diligently developed the GBC system in ISKCON, after introducing it in 1970. Given the dissolution of the Gauḍīya Maṭha, and Prabhupada’s personal crafting of the GBC to prevent history from repeating itself, it is natural that ISKCON has always aimed its radar at any possible challenge to the GBC system.

[PADA: So that is the first thing the 11 did in 1978, they declared that the 11 are now "the acharya board" and the acharya board is now the superior entity over the GBC, effectively dismantling the overall GBC. Simultaneously, the acharya board declared that the Gaudiya Matha and its leaders are the new ISKCON advisors, shiksha gurus, and main "new" authority to ISKCON. 

So the 11 made the founders of the illicit sex guru program from 1936 the de facto shiksha gurus for the entire society, and they said Sridhara Maharaja is their "higher authority," right -- "higher" than Srila Prabhupada. So they basically booted out Srila Prabhupada as their authority and made a higher authority of the Gaudiya Matha's deviants. That was required since they were now going to make the same bogus guru deviation as the Gaudiya Matha, so they took shelter there to cement in the deviation.

Simultaneously --

The Gaudiya Matha is our new authority.

There is no GBC, there is the acharya board.

No one is allowed to see the letters, the 1977 conversations, the will, and other documents.

Anyone asking questions is booted out and threatened with violence.

Money meant to care for the gurukula children is being siphoned off for opulent lifestyles of the elite 11 and their lackeys.

Jayatirtha is caught having illicit sex and taking drugs and he is still reinstated as an acharya.

ISKCON loses the Syracuse fraud lawsuit.

ISKCON farm is raided by Federal Marshals in Berkeley Farm.

PDI business in Laguna Beach temple is raided by the Federal Marshals.

New Vrndavana dissenter disappears, and was later found buried in New Vrndavana.

Bhagavan is living like a king while he kicked out hundreds of Prabhupada devotees.

Hansadutta kicked out all but two Prabhupada devotees.

GBC starts to say acharyas are often deviants.

Satsvarupa writes paper saying that the mahajanas are often in illusion and deviating ...

Women's collecting party abuses reported in the Los Angeles Times.

Parents begin to report problems in the gurukula system ... 


Meanwhile Hrdayananda was under fire for "overly associating with women." So are we to say none of these leaders were aware of these issues?]


Danger on Both Sides

However, we must keep in mind that one can veer off any road to the right or left. Thus history teaches us that there are two dangers to Prabhupada’s GBC system:

a) not accepting GBC authority;

b) giving oppressive power to the GBC.

Failure to follow the GBC system will sabotage Prabhupada’s ISKCON. But an unjust or oppressive GBC can itself damage and even destroy Prabhupada’s GBC system. Consider the following.

Social and political science often cite the pendulum effect to show that cultural, social, and political trends, when brought to one extreme, will tend to swing back to the opposite extreme. Thus throughout history, tyranny has often led to anarchy or democracy. A classic example is the oppressive French monarchy that led to the chaotic French Revolution. A current example is seen in Libya.
Prabhupada himself said that in the West, monarchy fell and gave way to democracy because it grew corrupt and oppressive. The opposite is also true: anarchy leads to tyranny, as seen in Germany after World War I.

I will argue in this paper that ISKCON has diligently guarded against one extreme: rejecting the GBC system. But ISKCON must also guard itself from the opposite extreme: tyranny. The GBC must take care not to claim, beyond Prabhupada’s mandate, an extreme power that will ultimately destabilize and undermine Prabhupada’s GBC system. 

Dictatorial authority may lead to a collapse of that authority, as with the Gauḍīya Maṭha, or to strong institutional democracy that jeopardizes the descending authority of the paramparā system.

[PADA: Right, the GBC system is not a cooperative effort made with the senior devotees and themselves. It has become a tyranny system of a few artificial "absolute acharyas" who have made chaos out of ISKCON, at the same time they cannot seem to manage a simple problem like removing deviants from the post of leadership. Devotees in one zone have gone through this problem even recently, an abusive person was allowed to rule over the devotees and the GBC failed to correct this, and protect the citizens. The tyrants are allowed to rule with an iron fist, and dissenters are squashed.  

Its dysfunctional, as is always the case with tyrants, the people at the top benefit and those on the lower rungs suffer. That is true in North Korea, and this is why some ex-kulis told me Hrdayananda's program is like North Korea, a few elites live like kings, while the lowly peons (as happened with the gurukula children) suffer from a lack of resources, or even a lack of essential supplies like soap, food, blankets and medicine. Hrdayananda as a leader is directly responsible for all these problems ... And Hrdayananda is right, he and his pals have acted like tyrants, as has been confirmed by victims of their program. ys pd]  


Wednesday, July 27, 2016

Hrdayananda Swami's "GBC Reform" Paper Pt. 1

Being Krishna's Successor is not to be taken lightly!

Hridayananda das Goswami
July 23, 2016
Table of Contents
Introduction 4
Historical Moments for Non-GBC Help 4
Unity in Diversity 4
Prabhupada’s Will and the GBC 4
Danger on Both Sides 5
Engaging Scholarship to Understand ISKCON 5
The Term Political 6
Routinization of Charisma 7
Three Forms of Social Authority 7
Charismatic Authority 7
Routinizing Authority 8
Traditional and Rational-Legal Authority 8
GBC as Heirs 11
GBC Self-Understanding 11
Problems with GBC Self-Understanding 11
GBC Traits 15
Interpreting the Mandate 15
Danger of Bureaucratic Tyranny 15
Management Hierarchy and Spiritual Hierarchy 16
Decreasing Empathy 17
The Iron Law of Oligarchy 17
Sadhu Burnout 17
Austere and “Pious” Tyranny 18
Follow vs. Imitate 19
Justice 21
Justice Needed for Social Stability 21
Justice Linked to Ethics, Morality 21
Justice linked to Equality 21
Kṛṣṇa Acts Justly 21
Equality and Hierarchy 22
Types of Justice 24
Blindfolded Justice 25
Law and Language 26
Equality 26
Other Key Words 26
Justice in GBC Law 27
GBC Law 4.4.2 Justice Ministry 27
GBC Law 17.1-2 Justice 28
Unequal Law 30
Discipline of Devotees in General 30
Discipline of Lesser ISKCON Leaders 30
Discipline of Regional Secretaries and RGB 30
Discipline of GBCs, Compared to TPs 30
Conduct and Discipline of Dīkṣā Gurus 31
Regional Governing Board (RGB) Members 33
GBC Conduct 33
Compare Laws for GBCs and Gurus 34
Appeal in GBC Laws 38
Recourse and Appeal for Ordinary Devotees? 38
GBC Admission of Flawed Law Doesn’t Fix It 39
Stifling Debate Through Outdated Law 39
GBC Does Not Publish Self-Disciplinary Rules 40
Understanding ISKCON Lines of Authority 41
Introduction 41
Public Reason 41
Two Visions of ISKCON 42
UILA Seems to Favor Controlled Society 43
GBC Subordinating Language 44
Nourishing Bhakti 45
UILA Undermines Preachers’ Autonomy 46
Sannyāsīs not in Management Hierarchy 47
Freedom in Devotional Service 48
Feudal ISKCON? 50
GBC and Philosophy 52
Fanaticism 52
Corruption 53
Incompetence 54
Avoiding the “GBC Word” 54
Social Contract vs. Tyranny 55
The Vanishing Reference Point 56
Constitution 57
Prabhupada Calls for an ISKCON Constitution 57
What Is a Constitution? 57
Purpose Six, Devotee Rights, Unfulfilled 57
Four Conflicting Core Principles 57
Other Articles Give No Rights 58
Limited Call for Feedback 59
Proposed Social Contract 59
IR and IDRO 61
ISKCON Resolve (IR) 61
IDRO ISKCON Dispute Resolution Office 61
Conclusion 63
Summary of ISKCON’s GBC 63
Why Justice? 64


Historical Moments for Non-GBC Help

ISKCON’s history shows that at times in crucial situations, non-GBC devotees can provide the impetus and logic needed to motivate and even guide the GBC Body. In the zonal acarya issue, the Narayan Maharaja issue, and the abusive Gurukula issue, non-GBC devotees powerfully brought the GBC’s and ISKCON’s attention to areas of vital concern, resulting in essential correction, compensation, and progress.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada says that acharyas do not need advice from others, in particular their subordinates or God brothers. Yet here Hrdayananda admits that the GBC's gurus are often unable to correct issues themselves, and so their subordinates or God brothers are often better at discriminating issues. Of course, never mind that, its more often that the mundane karmis see how ridiculous these GBC's gurus are, and even they know the GBC is deviating by promoting fools as their acharyas. 

Then again, the karmi media, police, FBI and courts often had to reign in the GBC's bogus and even criminal programs because -- no one else could or would, certainly they could not police themselves. For example, the karmi courts had to prosecute the GBC's child molesting case, and have them sued for $400,000,000, because Hrdayananda and his GBC could not and did not properly address this issue, and they still have not still dealt with the issue properly ever since. 

Thus! There are still victims who are bristling with anger over the fact that many of the leaders of the molesting infrastructure are still in big seats of authority. They feel betrayed because they were. But hardly no one listens to these victims, or those of us representing their case. So Hrdayananda is correct, they are not listening to others.

And what its come down to NOW is, the GBC's folks say that God's successors / gurus and acharyas are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, but even the average "karmi" mundane person knows that God's successors are not EVER engaged in illicit sex. This is why the Isopanisad says that these false acharyas are far worse off than the average mundane person, and thus these false gurus will go to far worse hellish planets than the average mundane person. Notice, the average mundane person has a far greater understanding of God's successors, i.e. they are not EVER debauchees, so the karmis are vastly superior to Hrdayananda and his entire GBC program in terms of guru tattva realizations.

So Hrdayananda is actually correct, the GBC is adrift because of failing to listen, and thus the average hamburger eating mundane person knows that God's successor gurus are not illicit sex deviants, while only foolish people like the GBC and Hrdayananda are baffled on this point. And the reason they are totally baffled is -- that they do not consult with their God brothers, the shastra, Srila Prabhupada's directives, or even the average karmis etc. 

In fact almost any hamburger eating person on the street knows vastly more than Hrdayananda's GBC probably ever will know in this lifetime, i.e. that God is pure and thus His successors are too. That is way over the head of dullards like Hrdayananda and his GBC, they cannot fathom this principle. Unfortunately, shastra is very clear, anyone who says acharyas are usually debauchees like Hrdayananda and his GBC pals, will be headed for a very bad future life, there is no way to escape this fate for these thinkers. 

Hee hee! I just rescued a huge ugly black and brown spider from climbing on my wall, and escorted him outside into the plants. Yep, Krishna can EASILY and IMMEDIATELY put one into a place where one will be totally baffled and with no intelligence, and He does that to people who misuse their intelligence to make false gurus. 

Shastra says these veda vada rata people go to a vastly worse fate than the ordinary mundane person, because they are misleading others. I just got a question from a person asking about Rupanuga's letter where he is saying these GBC 11 are madhyama gurus. So just see how badly these GBC and Rupanugas have confused people. First of all Rupanuga is attacking Srila Prabhupada as faulty and unable to determine who is a guru successor to Krishna and who is not, and so he appoints 11 unqualified people as Krishna's guru successors. That is not what happened!

Then Rupanga is attacking the religious sentiment of the mass of people, making them wonder why illicit sex deviants are madhyama gurus? So they are intentionally twisting the Vedas so they can support their idea that their illicit sex with men, women and children deviants are God's saintly successors. This is how they degrade the entire human society, according to shastra, and that is why they go to the lowest places after they leave their bodies. Of course in the meantime they have made ISKCON into a place where illicit sex predators can flock to in abundance.]

I believe that such a historical moment is upon us again — a moment in which good and faithful ISKCON devotees, respecting Prabhupada’s GBC system, must petition the GBC to correct a critical problem with ISKCON leadership, including the GBC itself.

[PADA: Great. So we have to petition the GBC's acharyas to correct themselves, but Srila Prabhupada says it is an offense to correct the acharyas? Why would acharyas have to be petitioned to correct "critical problems"? Which previous acharyas were petitioned for making critical problems for others? And why is Hrdayananda saying that acharyas are making critical problems, when Srila Prabhupada says acharyas are saving people from their problems? If the acharyas are deviating and need to be petitioned to stop deviating, what kind of acharyas are they promoting?]

Having served for many years as a GBC member, including four years under Srila Prabhupada’s direct training, and one year as GBC chairman, and serving now as a loyal yet concerned member of ISKCON, I here present my case to the loyal servants of Prabhupada, for their sober consideration. My sincere desire is to strengthen Prabhupada’s GBC system, and not to injure it.

[PADA: Hrdayananda already injured the GBC system by declaring that 11 of its members are acharyas. When "the GBC" advised Harikesh, Jayapataka, Jayatirtha, Bhavananda and others about correcting their wrong behaviors, they argued that since they are "acharyas" -- they cannot be criticized. You cannot have a group of managers rule over the acharyas! That is still true today with Hrdayananda himself, the GBC has advised him to control what he says, and he really doesn't.] 

Unity in Diversity

In convoking the first annual Mayapura GBC meeting, which took place in 1974 [not 1975 as stated on the GBC website], Prabhupada clearly indicated that the GBC should govern in > cooperation with other senior devotees: “With all GBC and senior men present we should discuss how to make unity in diversity. But, if we fight on account of diversity, then it is simply the material platform. Please try to maintain the philosophy of unity in diversity. That will make our movement successful.” [Letter to Kirtananda Swami—October 18, 1973]

[PADA: Right, so this was the first thing Hrdayananda's party did, they purged out almost all of the God brothers, because the God brothers were objecting to their acharya status. So the whole platform of cooperation was dismantled. And this is still the case, the God brothers are objecting to the guru voting process, but it continues. The God brothers said we cannot offer bhogha to the conditioned soul GBC gurus, but that process continues. 

Then again the God brothers said there was a child abuse problem, they were ignored. The God brothers said, do not consult with Narayana Maharaja, he was consulted anyway. The God brothers said, do not spend millions and millions suing Bangalore, but the GBC did that anyway, and the list is endless. The GBC has never consulted with us really, and Hrdayananda is perhaps the worst offender in this group, he does not consult with us -- ever. 

Again, Hrdayananda is correct, the GBC should have consulted with the God brothers, that would have avoided the purge that made the temples into ghost towns, would have averted the child abuse lawsuit, would have averted the mass defections to Sridhara and Narayana and so on and so forth. They do not consult, yep! And now they have the karma of impeding if not halting Lord Chaitanya's movement on their necks, which means, they will be paying for that for probably eons of time. The good news is, they may eventually become a spider on the wall of a Vaishnava, so they will get a little mercy. As Srila Prabhupada says, false gurus are never tolerated by the Lord or any agents of the Lord. They will go down, period.]    

Accordingly, there must be dialogue between the GBC and senior devotees that disagree with them on practical points, or that advocate reform within Prabhupada’s principles, as I do here. After all, Prabhupada speaks of unity in diversity. He knew there would be different views. Prabhupada did not ask the GBC to eliminate bona fide diversity by punishing those who disagree with them, but rather to search for unity in diversity with other faithful devotees.

[PADA: Speaking from experience, devotees who disagree with the self-appointed gurus are consistently shunned, banned, -- and worse -- some are beaten and some are killed for dissenting. And now they are spending apparently $20,000,000 to ban the Bangalore devotees, and they are also banning more and more people from Brooklyn temple, Phoenix temple and so on and so forth. The banning continues unabated. Again, Hrdayananda is right, the God brothers are not consulted, and worse, they are treated like enemies who need to be banned, beaten, sued and maybe treated with fatal actions.

People like Bhakti Vikas swami, Rupanuga, Badrinarayan and others are still promoting the idea that the GBC gurus were appointed by Srila Prabhupada. There is no evidence he appointed gurus, or that he wanted these falsely appointed gurus -- to vote in more gurus. Their whole operation is operating on the false principle that Srila Prabhupada made a mistake and he appointed conditioned souls as his acharya successors. That is not what he did. And as long as we have these independent maverick acharyas, who often do not accept the rulings of the GBC committee, or worse, they concoct  and modify the rulings to fit their false acharya's program, nothing substantial will change. ys pd] 


Rathayatra Manipura 1870

The Greater ISKCON (by Dina)


I was reading this article and felt inspired to pen a reply:

However, when i was trying to post it, it said only 'team members' could post....

[PADA: Right, you can submit comments or essays to]

Since i had already written it, and i felt it may inspire some other lovers of Srila Prabhupada in 'the greater iskcon', i thought of sending it to you, the admin of the site, with a request that you kindly pos the comment for me below the article, if possible. Thank you. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Your humble servant,



@Anonymous(2): It's about loving Srila Prabhupada in an eternal relationship of love, not about how long or how many rules one has followed for how long... If one remains in such a relationship life after life, serving a factual pure devotee like Srila Prabhupada, then one himself is always 'the true iskcon' and will never stop serving and glorifying Srila Prabhupada and expertly giving his mercy to others (whether or not he lives in a building called iskcon!) In that way i am sure all the true loving servants of His Divine Grace can never and have never given up serving and remembering him....only they may not be doing it in a building with the signboard Iskcon on it, because I think Srila Prabhupada left that address long ago, along with his true mission, which is Lord Caitanya's Sri Krishna Sankirtana Movement - that is the true 'iskcon'. 

In one of his SB purports, Srila Prabhupada clearly reveals the fact that when an Acarya departs, he leaves behind him a community of Brahmanas (N.B. He did not say Vaishnavas). So that is what Iskcon the buildings and legal assets are - caste brahmins in the mould of Srila Prabhupada's mercy. But the true disciples who live and breathe in his mercy are those who fell in love with him by serving him, because the ecstasy that HDG feels in every moment of serving his beloved Gurudev has electrified them and transformed them into his loving slaves life after life after life.... they can and will never forget him and never stop wanting to taste again that nectar of just doing anything at all spontaneously to please him..... no one expresses it better than His Grace Shyamsundar prabhu when he remembers his interactions with His Divine Grace before the camera and he describes Srila Prabhupada as leading an adventure like a pirate on a ship - it was simply real, living ecstatic devotional service!

Once all the 'changing disease' (especially the books) & the bogus gurus and asset / power-grabbing games began, Srila Prabhupada left Iskcon and all who wanted to continue serving him with ecstatic love would naturally have done so far from contested properties and contested seats of power etc, to relish the sublime nectar of their intimate, loving, eternal servitude relationship with their beloved Master & Gurudeva, Srila Prabhupada. That sort of personal love cannot be quantified nor institutionalized..... We can maybe get a drop of their nectar if we sincerely serve them and, when the right moment arises, eagerly beg them, "tell me once more what's he like to be near to...."..... i think that mood came across in this, the only poem that this foolish self (me) has ever accidentally penned -

In summary, I guess what i am saying is it is all about personal loving relationships - that is how it (parampara) goes on eternally unstoppably....but not within brick walls called Iskcon.... His Divine Grace and his great mission to inundate the world with Prema Nama Sankirtana live on, in the hearts of this simple hearted loving slaves of his who are unable to remember and speak about His Divine Graces's personal mercy upon them without choking- and tearing-up..... (his servitors such as Shyamsundar Prabhu, Yamuna mataji, Mukunda Maharaj etc come to mimd...) oh, when will we be blessed to serve His Divine Grace's true lovers and servants in the same mood of total abandon and love? May those who tasted ecstasy in the presence of Srila Prabhupada kindly continue to pour out all their Oral History and preserve it in books and share their heartfelt recollections of His Divine Grace on youtube etc for posterity. THERE THE REAL ISKCON MISSION LIVES ON, FOR NO ONE CAN STOP ANYONE FROM SEEKING OUT A LOVING SERVANT OF SRILA PRABHUPADA AND SERVING HIM/HER...

He has purely left his mark on the planet and it is simply not relevant what good or bad administration was done with the material assets he left behind in some buildings called iskcon.... The real temples he built in the hearts of all who served him and then could not give up serving him! (As HDG said once, "That is how I have cheated you!".....but that is another story.... i digress) All glories, all glories to Srila Prabhupada! And all glories to Lord Krishna, Who, in the recent hippie era, orchestrated a miraculous phenomena called Iskcon that revealed to the world that (a) Srila Prabhupada is His pure devotee, "mor senapati bhakta" [Brahma-vaivarta Purana] empowered to save the world, and (b) That Krishna Himself had recently incarnated as Lord Caitanya in Puri to give Gopi-Manjari Prema freely to the whole world through Sri Hari Nama Mahamantra: HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA / KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE / HARE RAMA HARE RAMA / RAMA RAMA HARE HARE

That miracle has been chronicled in masterpieces like Hare Krishna Explosion by Howard Wheeler, Radha Damodar Vilas, Prabhupada Lilamrta etc etc, and those books will inspire the spiritual explosion of the fulfillment of Srila Prabhupada's pure heart's desire to inundate the world with prema nama sankirtana. It shall come to pass. PARAM VIJAYATE SRI KRISHNA SANKIRTANAM! All glories, ALL GLORIES TO OUR SRILA PRABHUPADA!

P.S. Please drink deeply this nectar of Yamuna Mataji's love for Srila Prabhupada, expressed in English and devotionally rendered into Bengali verse in this outstanding recording.....

[PADA: Well we do not agree that the Lilamrta by SDG is bona fide, but we like the sentiment of your essay. ys pd]

Monday, July 25, 2016

Bhakti Vikas swami's Clone and "Foolish Gurus"

BVKS follower tells us to both follow and reject their guru parampara?

Thanks prabhu, 

Correct me if I am wrong. You are apparently saying: 

1) Bhakti Vikas swami is authorized to toss out Srila Prabhupada's direct instructions -- that we neophytes cannot act as diksha gurus and take karma, never mind this is causing -- sickness, falldown, suffering, misery and even death for his own God brothers, never mind all the bad publicity -- due to those who are taking this karma without authority. Never mind BVKS makes it look like Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered his neophytes to act as diksha gurus who can absorb sins like Jesus, which is a de facto attack on Srila Prabhupada because he never authorized this process.

OK so Bhakti vikas swami is authorized to encourage ruining the lives of these devotees, and ruin ISKCON in the process since this will impact the society, due to some mysterious licence he got from -- where? This is really a kindergarten level instruction, its part of the basics, and BVKS thinks its not important? Neophytes cannot take karma, its ABC instruction, and he thinks its not even worth mentioning, much less following. 

Bhakti Vikas swami is thus authorized to create all these artificial problems -- because he knows better than Srila Prabhupada? You have failed to explain how you folks are authorized to toss out the orders of the acharya? You claim to be the real followers of Prabhupada, but the first thing you are doing is to say his orders have no meaning? All that, despite all the darkness you folks created by ignoring these types of orders.

Why is BVKS tossing out the direct orders of the acharya? Of course BVKS is also saying he is "advising" the other gurus with his book etc. Why does BVKS think Krishna's successor gurus are his students, who need his advising, correction, rectification, monitoring, reform, suspension etc.? Where is this process discussed by Srila Prabhupada? And who placed BVKS in charge of the other acharyas?

2) You say we need to listen to BVKS and read his site, and his site supports these GBC's "acharyas" because he advertises himself as a member of their group, and he advertises their documents on his site.  

3) Yet, the same GBC's documents he advertises on his site -- he claims are written by fools, because the same GBC's authors are banning his books. Why is BVKS advertising documents that are written by people he claims are fools? As one devotee commented, this is like a vegetarian restaurant advertising beef stew. 

4) And since the authors of these GBC's documents he advertises are also gurus and acharyas, therefore, BVKS is saying his co-gurus and acharyas are fools. BVKS thus says yes, they are acharyas and yes, they are also fools for rejecting my book. Why does BVKS always say his acharyas are fools, and thus we should simultaneously follow them because they are acharyas and -- reject them -- since they are fools? And how can anyone simultaneously follow and reject them? And doesn't Srila Prabhupada say the asuras will give contrary orders?

5) Worse! A number of BVKS folks have been writing publicly how the GBC's gurus are fools, illicit sex gurus, new age compromisers, ping pong swamis etc., so he is training his own people to believe that his own guru parampara is comprised of fools. Which previous acharyas preached that their own guru parampara is comprised of fools? 

OK this begs the question:

Why is BVKS always saying acharyas are fools? This is an attack on the entire Vedic process. 

6) Srila Prabhupada says anyone who says guru are deviants is -- a resident of hell. What kind of guru parampara says, read these documents, because they are written by our gurus, and thus they are written by fools? I find it amazing that BVKS is saying that we need to listen to his people and accept them as our gurus, and at the same time, reject them since they are fools for rejecting his book? 

Anyway, we are making good progress here, you are saying the GBC are fools for rejecting BVKS' advise. That means BVKS program is saying, their acharyas are fools. Except, he also says they are bona fide and we need to listen to them. Srila Prabhupada says all fools should be rejected, he never said that we need to accept any number of fools as our acharyas, and in fact he says anyone who does that is going to the lower planets. To sum then, you BVKS guys are admitting you are promoting fools as your gurus and acharyas. We wholeheartedly agree. Except, its forbidden to promote fools as acharyas, and anyone who does that goes to the lower planets.

ys pd

Bhakti Vikas swami's idea that acharyas need advise and correcting, and being removed for illicit sex etc. is itself an offense ...

"It is also an offense to consider an empowered Vaiṣṇava an object of disciplinary action. It is offensive to try to give him advice or to correct him. One can distinguish between a neophyte Vaiṣṇava and an advanced Vaiṣṇava by their activities. The advanced Vaiṣṇava is always situated as the spiritual master, and the neophyte is always considered his disciple. The spiritual master must not be subjected to the advice of a disciple, nor should a spiritual master be obliged to take instructions from those who are not his disciples. This is the sum and substance of Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī’s advice in the sixth verse."
The Nectar of Instruction : Texts 6 : 

Sunday, July 24, 2016

Bhakti Vikas Swami's Program -- Killing His Godbrothers?

Taking karma is causing sickness and death?

PADA: Srila Prabhupada named no one to be guru? That is false. He told us many times not to even allow other people to touch our feet -- or we will be acting as diksha gurus, and we will thus be absorbing other's karma, and this will make us get sick, fall down or both. 

Whereas Bhakti Vikas swami's program is openly encouraging people to act as diksha gurus, and how did you guess, they are getting sick, falling down, and many have died prematurely. Gunagrahi swami -- for example -- has cancer (from taking karma?) and on his way to the hospital -- his feet are being touched, giving him even more karma, and he is already dying?  

Why is Bhakti Vikas swami's program encouraging unqualified people to act as diksha gurus, when he clearly sees they are falling down, getting sick, and dying left, right and center? Why does BVKS want his own brothers to suffer and die like this? Notice in the photo above, he is laughing, while his victims are falling down, suffering illness, and even dying?

Yes! BVKS is clearly causing intense suffering and death for his own brothers by having them take karma without authority. Just look at the 11 gurus BVKS first started promoting, everyone of them, yes EVERY SINGLE ONE, either got very sick, fell down, or died. Why is BVKS making this program, which is clearly destroying these folks, who are supposed to be his own brothers? Why does BVKS want his brothers to go down into the ditch, and even die? 

OK agreed, I don't like all of my God brothers, but I am not wishing them to get sick, fall down, and die from fatal ailments -- like BVKS is doing every single day of his life since 1977? Why is BVKS promoting a program that is making his God brothers get sick, fall down -- and which is in fact killing his brothers from fatal ailments? Just look how BVKS program has ruined the health of Jayapataka swami for example. 

And even some of JPS own followers AGREE WITH PADA. They are saying exactly what we are saying, that JPS is sick from TAKING KARMA. This means -- even the GBC's guru folks know their gurus are getting sick, falling down, and dying, from taking karma. So why is BVKS encouraging his own God brothers to take this dire step, knowing how badly its affecting his own brothers? He sees that so many of his brothers ALREADY got sick, fell down, and died prematurely from taking karma, and he wants that process to expand and continue? He clearly wants to spread suffering and death among the Vaishnava community. 

Why does BVKS hate vaishnavas including his own brothers so badly, he wants them to suffer these fates? Yep! Why does BVKS want these horrendous reactions to happen to his own brothers? So first of all, he says he loves his brothers. Then he says, lets get our own brothers to take karma without any authority whatever, so they can become very sick, fall down into scandals, and die prematurely, from taking this karma. BVKS does not even love his own brothers? 

Yes, I do disagree with my brothers, but at least I am NOT telling my brothers to get sick, fall down and die. I am not attacking anyone, I am saving others from this fate. I also already explained that many people are already following our idea and that is why the BVKS program is spending $20,000,000 suing our Prabhupada folks. That is apparently because -- he wants more people to suffer and die, he has not seen enough victims of his bogus ideas. 

You said we are all watching TV and smoking pot, ok so why is BVKS program spending apparently $20m to stop the people who are watching TV and smoking pot? That is your guys biggest priority issue? This is the goal of life? Its not to preach, or to print books, or start varnasrama, its to sue the pot head and TV watching folks? Why has BVKS program dedicated itself to attacking the pot heads, if that is what we all are? Yep, lets stunt all our preaching so we can waste $20,000,000 suing -- the pot heads?

As for me personally following Vaishnava vows, I am following way better than BVKS's illicit sex guru project? His gurus have been watching football on TV, watching porn, gambling in Las Vegas, having illicit sex, and I caught one of them eating chicken salad at the local health food store. 

First of all, you should get your gurus to follow the basics, then you can start to worry about my standards. Anyway, below is a photo of JPS, and just see how BVKS has told this man to accept karma AGAINST THE DIRECT ORDERS of the acharya, and just see what BVKS is doing, he is killing his own God brothers by telling them they can take karma. 

They can't absorb karma, and they were told NOT TO by the acharya. And why don't you folks ever answer the first question, who authorized BVKS to tell his brothers to take karma, when he knows we were told not to do so, and when he sees how his program is causing his own brothers so much suffering, and premature death? 

So yes, as a matter of fact I am more advanced than BVKS, because I am not sitting around since 1977 encouraging my brothers to take karma, which causes them to get sick, fall down and die. I wanted my brothers not to fall down, get sick and -- die. Yes, that makes me the better person here. ys pd

Karma absorbing sponge of the jagat?

Yep, just give me all your karma, I am another Jesus!