Hanuman Croatia and his guru parampara
[Summing up phone call with JOJO]
PADA: ISKCON people (like Hanuman Croatia and others) say we are like bogus Christians. Why? Because we worship Srila Prabhupada. Bad idea! Since worship of a "departed person" is the bogus posthumous, post samadhi, post mortem ritvik idea (just ask GBC / Gaudiya Matha / Narayan Maharaja / Torben / Rocana / Kailash).
At the same time ... these folks like Hanuman say they CAN worship departed (dead) GBC's gurus like Sridhar Swami, never mind he is a departed and post mortem person. Also a friend of Radhanath. So! Worship of the departed person is the bogus ritvik idea, but Hanuman is doing that himself, he worships a post mortem acharya.
So they are re-writing history. First of all -- they said we need a living person. And then Gaura Govinda Maharaja and others said "sabda brahman does not descend from tapes and books." Then, as these folks died, the Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Narayan Maharaja, Tamal Krishna people etc. started "tape ministries" of their departed gurus. After -- they really or de facto said tapes and books are not sabda brahman.
Apparently we can only worship departed members of their pedophile guru process, otherwise worship of someone like Jesus is verboten. And their bogus parampara gives us sabda brahman? Really? Jojo said, they are making an artificial caste system. Only the people they certify, vote in or anoint can be worshiped. Also like the Pope system. Its a corporate guru monopoly.
We Prabhupadanugas cannot worship Jesus or Prabhupada, because allegedly they are non-worshipable after their physical form departs. Yet people like Hanuman and many hundreds of others around ISKCON are acting as the "brahmana representatives" of a departed person aka ritviks. So they are promoting worship of their posthumous gurus -- themselves.
In sum! They are promoting their own concocted post mortem guru system, while saying worship of someone like Jesus is invalid. So they can act as the (ritvik) representatives of the departed members of their pedophile guru parampara, but no one else is allowed to act as the representative of the bona fide guru parampara. They are making an artificial monopoly on who gets to act as a representative and who does not.
Jojo got very upset realizing there is another reason for their idea, they want to corrupt and pollute the children of the world by having them believe members of a pedophile guru process are bona fide, and can be still be worshiped post mortem and buried in samadhis.
In short, they are the GBC's ritviks, or "representatives" of the bogus GBC's guru parampara, including their post mortem parampara. There are maybe thousands of them all over the place. Many ISKCON people we know -- still worship these departed persons. There are even some left over remnant people who worship Jayatirtha for that matter.
In fact! There are a lot of people -- very easy to find in ISKCON -- who worship departed gurus like for example Tamal Krsna swami. And they still worship lots of other blooped out or departed people. The Gaudiya Matha's Sridhara people all worship departed Sridhara. The Narayan Maharaja people all worship their departed guru. This is same with all of them.
Oh oh! We Prabhupadanugas cannot worship a departed person, but they have a special license. So really it comes down to, they CAN worship the departed members of the GBC's illicit sex guru parampara, but we can NOT worship a "departed" pure devotee. This is the rule they concocted, and we can see how ISKCON is suffering and even dying under their bogus rule. Its forbidden to worship a so-called departed pure devotee, but its allowed to worship a departed member of the GBC's debauchee's guru process, or a cheer leader of the GBC like Narayan Maharaja.
And Hanuman says Gaura Govinda is a good person to be guru as far as he sees. Another departed person. Also a mayavada who says we were never with Krishna. Hanuman sees "nothing wrong" with worship of a dead person who is a also a mayavada. Mostly the followers of Gaura Govinda then went to Narayan Maharaja, who also says we were never with Krishna, another mayavada.
Yes, there is nothing much wrong with worship of the post mortem people who support this mayavada program. And Gaura Govinda Maharaja made a series of public videos attacking Srila Prabhupada's jeeva tattva. Even many GBC people support GGM, knowing he preaches mayavada. Knowing also that GGM is voted in to the pedophile guru process.
Of course, the apparent reason GBC / Sridhar / Bhakti vikas swami / Gaura Govinda Maharaja et al. are bona fide is -- they are "2/3 show of hands voted in" as acharyas -- by the same GBC folks who reinstated sex with taxi driver's in the holy dham as their acharya and "Vishnupada." So anyone in a program which says -- sex with taxi drivers deviants are "Vishnupada acharyas" -- is bona fide.
This is why Hanuman promotes GBC Sridhar / BVKS and Gaura Govinda, all voted into that pedophile parampara. Then again, their parampara has illicit sex with men, women and children, so sex with taxi drivers is a minor offense in their system.
Then too bad, boo hoo -- Gaura Govinda died. Ooops. So they have no living person anymore. Only they can worship their departed guru, we cannot worship Prabhupada and be like a Christian. This makes no sense. They have a special license to worship a departed person, we don't. Its a caste or ecclesiastical vote system monopoly.
These ISKCON people never made any sense to me. They think our worship of the departed person is the bogus Christian idea. They forgot? All of their gurus will depart sooner or later. Many of their gurus already fell down, blooped or died.
They don't know ... everyone here has to die. This sounds like the most foolish idea ever. We have to worship the GBC's "eternal guru" who is a living person and not be like Christians. They forgot. All of their living persons are dying every day, even the real and bona fide gurus will also physically depart at some point. They think they can escape death, and worship the body of their dead guru forever. How foolish is that?
Their living gurus are dying every day, and they think this is the eternal guru idea. Then when their guru dies, they say our GBC guru is the eternal parampara, so we still worship him after he departs, but Prabhupada is not eternal parampara, so you are not allowed to worship him. What!
This is why their program is failing.
We don't see hardly any people going to make a program with Hanuman either. People are not joining ISKCON in numbers, nor the whole living guru program, because gradually their program is dwindling on its own. A senior devotee told me a few days ago, they have reduced ISKCON to a teeny insignificant cult, that is morally and financially bankrupted, and its going downhill all the more because the pandemic is hitting their pocketbook. I told Jojo, you know more about guru tattva than all this lot put together.
Only the GBC folks can worship a posthumous, post samadhi, post mortem person, because they are members of their pedophile guru process. And! Anyone who wants to worship Jesus or Prabhupada is bogus, its really what they are saying all along. People are catching on.
V DASA: The historic response of the GBC / BBTI / Gurus / Sanyasis is to drag their feet, ignore, stonewall, insult, infiltrate to confuse their critics, ad hominem attacks, label any and everyone who questions their actions as envious snakes. The list goes on and on. We should just face the facts that from 1978 our mission was co-opted into a loosely held worldwide group of small Temples who are held ransom by a power hungry group of insiders.
It started with eleven and has gradually grown to about 100 if you include all the so-called ‘initiating gurus’. Our future lies in expanding the mission of Lord Caitanya into people’s homes and communities and accept that the formal group Iskcon has gone the way of organized religions. The so-called ‘leaders’ are obsessed with the Temple buildings and assets which Srila Bhaktisiddhanta opined were better to strip the marble from the walls and sell to print books.