PADA: Had quite a long "cyber chat" today with a devotee who does not personally want his name mentioned because "one of my kids still hangs out with ISKCON people and I don't want him to be persecuted." Anyway he asked me about Sulochana saying he was fighting the ISKCON GBC's sexual predator "saffron MAFIA."
This is something Sulochan was analysing way back in the 1980s. And he was convinced a lot of our ISKCON problems are from the fact that many of these "sannyasis" and "gurus" are secretly holding sexual desires, and perhaps in a number of cases -- homosexual desires. Or worse, homosexual desires maybe mixed with pedophile desires as well, while posing as saints. Of course, some of the saffron MAFIA gurus were victimizing female followers as well, so that was also a problem and de facto pedophilia. Sulochana called them "sin-yasis."
Srila Prabhupada said in January 1977 that the sannyasa platform is failing, lets suspend it, lets get these leaders married. Instead the GBC made -- maybe over 100 more sannyasa -- and said mostly -- they are also gurus.
And on our chat we discussed -- first of all -- the relation of Hanuman Croatia's guru Sridhar swami to the overall MAFIA. Sridhara swami was a huge fan of Radhanath, and when he got sick he took shelter of Radhanath's health retreat program. And Sridhara was also very close to main MAFIA henchman Tamal, and other associates like Giriraja, Indradyumna, BB Govinda, etc. Tamal said Narayan Maharaja and Bhavananda are my best friends. So there was a saffron MAFIA clique going on, just as Sulochana observed.
And GBC guru Sridhar was also one of the jack booted gestapo bullies of ISKCON, complaining to a woman that she needs to "get a new husband" since her current husband is distributing "Prabhupadanuga" materials. Yep, we cannot worship Jesus or Prabhupada, when we can get your little children to worship the GBC's sexual predator MAFIA messiahs instead. Why would we give you a diamond when we can give you a piece of dog manure instead?
Wow, that is right, we need to tell women (who already have kids) and who are already worshiping Prabhupada -- to stop that process -- and to have these women and their kids worship their sexual predator GBC's gurus lineage process instead. Why aren't your kids worshiping our wonderful sexual predator's guru program, or are you a bogus Christian who only worships pure devotees? That is the way they have preached, there are so many examples of this.
So Hanuman's Sridhar was part of the marriage breaking program, which Sulochana was convinced was being done to break down the family unit, to make these children more vulnerable to the victimizing and molesting process. In short, without people like Sridhar swami, there would have been no Kirtanananda / Radhanath guru program from square one (and all sorts of New Vrndavana beatings, molesting, murders?).
Because without the support of important leaders like Sridhar, then Radhanath would not have been allowed in to the GBC's inner circle, and voted in, enabled, empowered and facilitated as a GBC guru. So the Radhanath issue is directly connected to all his handlers, enablers, and facilitators -- ok guys like Sridhar. Of course all sorts of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and some murders were going on under their watch, so they are collectively responsible for all that. And they are all collectively responsible for the molesting, the murders, and burying deviants in the dham etc. as well.
Thus, when Sulochana came out complaining about these false sannyasa and MAFIA gurus, they all pretty much ganged up to oppose him. That would self-evidently include the MAFIA's GBC Sridhar swami since he did not approve of our literatures. A few of the Ramesvara / Los Angeles goondas also told me later that they had been told to help New Vrndavana hit men find Sulochana, and a couple of them later apologized to me for their role in coming after us.
Meanwhile saffron MAFIA Satsvarupa was saying we are poison pens, trying to demonize us (to get us attacked?). Their MAFIA was after us, and big time!
Then, after Sulochana's murder other saffron elites like Umapati, Varshana, Devamrita and others began to glorify the murderer (Tirtha das) and how did you guess, they made him a saffron MAFIA sannyasa in prison. Below is a photo the bus they allegedly used to go hold a kirtan at the prison to glorify the murderer.
So now a big sector of the saffron elites were trying to -- cover up -- the murder as some glorious service to God. And that is why they then brought in New Vrndavana's saffrons like Radhanath, Umapati, Varshana, Devamrita, and others like Kuladri and etc. as the "new wave" of leaders, to make these saffron MAFIA's the new big shots on the block. OK GBC Sridhar swami must have known all this was going on. Or he was living under a rock?
Hari Sauri was the infamous "Prabhupada Kripa Maharaja," another jet set saffron MAFIA elite. It always amazes me how these guys were living like Saudi princes -- while their little school children were forced to eat rotten old stinky and moldy oatmeal. Don't these people believe in God and karma? Evidently no. Too bad for them, Yamaraja does believe in God and karma.
Anyway, Hari Sauri was writing that me and Sulochana are sahajiyas, and Sulochana said he is demonizing us -- so they can kill us. Oddly, later on the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's Hare Krishna Community (HKC) folks began to cite and send me sectors of Hari Sauri's writings as "proof" that me and Sulochana are sahajiyas.
Oh great, so the people who follow strictly -- follow Hari Sauri's process and worship sexual predators (or even pedophiles) -- while us bogus sahajiyas worship pure devotees. What kind of message is that? Then they wonder why there has been molesting going on left, right and center -- under their scheme to attack us child molesting critics? OK you are the guys CAUSING the foundation for the molesting infrastructure by attacking us critics of your molesting process as sahajiya. Of course you guys also got some of us murdered by demonizing us ... job well done?
And Hari Sauri was "best buds" with other saffron MAFIA guys that Sulochana was complaining about, including charges of an orchestrated CHILD MOLESTING process. Umm, so these Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC guys are proud that they are glorifying a program that gets a bunch of kids molested, and perhaps aids in demonizing Sulochana, by supporting Hari Sauri's program. The people Sulochana credits with orchestrating the molester regime -- are the people we should all listen to and read their writings?
Hari Sauri has some very weird connection to "sex with taxi drivers-pada" Bhavananda, I just can't figure it out. He has been Bhavananda's eternal shadow. Anyway, Hari Sauri is another saffron MAFIA associate of Hanuman's Radhanath lover's club hero Sridhar swami. Then we had Gaura Govinda swami, Sridhar Swami, Bhakti Vikas Swami, Jayadvaita swami etc. all get voted in as gurus -- by the same folks that reinstated Bhavananda. Saffrons began to multiply!
And Hansadutta sent all of his temple devotees to New Vrndavana in 1986. Same thing, we need to get everyone to worship one of the biggest gangsters in the saffron MAFIA. Kirtanananda used to sit on a big golden throne covered with the hands of dozens of boys, while Hansadutta, and the other GBC folks and people like GBC's Sridhar Swami did not notice there is a problem?
This is something Sulochan was analysing way back in the 1980s. And he was convinced a lot of our ISKCON problems are from the fact that many of these "sannyasis" and "gurus" are secretly holding sexual desires, and perhaps in a number of cases -- homosexual desires. Or worse, homosexual desires maybe mixed with pedophile desires as well, while posing as saints. Of course, some of the saffron MAFIA gurus were victimizing female followers as well, so that was also a problem and de facto pedophilia. Sulochana called them "sin-yasis."
Srila Prabhupada said in January 1977 that the sannyasa platform is failing, lets suspend it, lets get these leaders married. Instead the GBC made -- maybe over 100 more sannyasa -- and said mostly -- they are also gurus.
And on our chat we discussed -- first of all -- the relation of Hanuman Croatia's guru Sridhar swami to the overall MAFIA. Sridhara swami was a huge fan of Radhanath, and when he got sick he took shelter of Radhanath's health retreat program. And Sridhara was also very close to main MAFIA henchman Tamal, and other associates like Giriraja, Indradyumna, BB Govinda, etc. Tamal said Narayan Maharaja and Bhavananda are my best friends. So there was a saffron MAFIA clique going on, just as Sulochana observed.
And GBC guru Sridhar was also one of the jack booted gestapo bullies of ISKCON, complaining to a woman that she needs to "get a new husband" since her current husband is distributing "Prabhupadanuga" materials. Yep, we cannot worship Jesus or Prabhupada, when we can get your little children to worship the GBC's sexual predator MAFIA messiahs instead. Why would we give you a diamond when we can give you a piece of dog manure instead?
Wow, that is right, we need to tell women (who already have kids) and who are already worshiping Prabhupada -- to stop that process -- and to have these women and their kids worship their sexual predator GBC's gurus lineage process instead. Why aren't your kids worshiping our wonderful sexual predator's guru program, or are you a bogus Christian who only worships pure devotees? That is the way they have preached, there are so many examples of this.
So Hanuman's Sridhar was part of the marriage breaking program, which Sulochana was convinced was being done to break down the family unit, to make these children more vulnerable to the victimizing and molesting process. In short, without people like Sridhar swami, there would have been no Kirtanananda / Radhanath guru program from square one (and all sorts of New Vrndavana beatings, molesting, murders?).
Because without the support of important leaders like Sridhar, then Radhanath would not have been allowed in to the GBC's inner circle, and voted in, enabled, empowered and facilitated as a GBC guru. So the Radhanath issue is directly connected to all his handlers, enablers, and facilitators -- ok guys like Sridhar. Of course all sorts of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and some murders were going on under their watch, so they are collectively responsible for all that. And they are all collectively responsible for the molesting, the murders, and burying deviants in the dham etc. as well.
Thus, when Sulochana came out complaining about these false sannyasa and MAFIA gurus, they all pretty much ganged up to oppose him. That would self-evidently include the MAFIA's GBC Sridhar swami since he did not approve of our literatures. A few of the Ramesvara / Los Angeles goondas also told me later that they had been told to help New Vrndavana hit men find Sulochana, and a couple of them later apologized to me for their role in coming after us.
Meanwhile saffron MAFIA Satsvarupa was saying we are poison pens, trying to demonize us (to get us attacked?). Their MAFIA was after us, and big time!
Then, after Sulochana's murder other saffron elites like Umapati, Varshana, Devamrita and others began to glorify the murderer (Tirtha das) and how did you guess, they made him a saffron MAFIA sannyasa in prison. Below is a photo the bus they allegedly used to go hold a kirtan at the prison to glorify the murderer.
So now a big sector of the saffron elites were trying to -- cover up -- the murder as some glorious service to God. And that is why they then brought in New Vrndavana's saffrons like Radhanath, Umapati, Varshana, Devamrita, and others like Kuladri and etc. as the "new wave" of leaders, to make these saffron MAFIA's the new big shots on the block. OK GBC Sridhar swami must have known all this was going on. Or he was living under a rock?
Going to kirtan for Tirtha, the murderer of Sulochana.
Hari Sauri was the infamous "Prabhupada Kripa Maharaja," another jet set saffron MAFIA elite. It always amazes me how these guys were living like Saudi princes -- while their little school children were forced to eat rotten old stinky and moldy oatmeal. Don't these people believe in God and karma? Evidently no. Too bad for them, Yamaraja does believe in God and karma.
Anyway, Hari Sauri was writing that me and Sulochana are sahajiyas, and Sulochana said he is demonizing us -- so they can kill us. Oddly, later on the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's Hare Krishna Community (HKC) folks began to cite and send me sectors of Hari Sauri's writings as "proof" that me and Sulochana are sahajiyas.
Oh great, so the people who follow strictly -- follow Hari Sauri's process and worship sexual predators (or even pedophiles) -- while us bogus sahajiyas worship pure devotees. What kind of message is that? Then they wonder why there has been molesting going on left, right and center -- under their scheme to attack us child molesting critics? OK you are the guys CAUSING the foundation for the molesting infrastructure by attacking us critics of your molesting process as sahajiya. Of course you guys also got some of us murdered by demonizing us ... job well done?
And Hari Sauri was "best buds" with other saffron MAFIA guys that Sulochana was complaining about, including charges of an orchestrated CHILD MOLESTING process. Umm, so these Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC guys are proud that they are glorifying a program that gets a bunch of kids molested, and perhaps aids in demonizing Sulochana, by supporting Hari Sauri's program. The people Sulochana credits with orchestrating the molester regime -- are the people we should all listen to and read their writings?
Hari Sauri has some very weird connection to "sex with taxi drivers-pada" Bhavananda, I just can't figure it out. He has been Bhavananda's eternal shadow. Anyway, Hari Sauri is another saffron MAFIA associate of Hanuman's Radhanath lover's club hero Sridhar swami. Then we had Gaura Govinda swami, Sridhar Swami, Bhakti Vikas Swami, Jayadvaita swami etc. all get voted in as gurus -- by the same folks that reinstated Bhavananda. Saffrons began to multiply!
And Hansadutta sent all of his temple devotees to New Vrndavana in 1986. Same thing, we need to get everyone to worship one of the biggest gangsters in the saffron MAFIA. Kirtanananda used to sit on a big golden throne covered with the hands of dozens of boys, while Hansadutta, and the other GBC folks and people like GBC's Sridhar Swami did not notice there is a problem?
Even a karmi news lady told me some guy dressed in silk robes, sitting on a big seat covered with the hands of boys is -- "pedophile heaven." Why didn't the "advanced devotees" see that? And Hanuman wants to make more and more gurus out of these "advanced" people? Advancing to -- where?
Even another saffron clad fellow, BV Puri Maharaja, was sucked into the GBC's MAFIA program. He and Bhakta das arranged a program for "saint Radhanath." I know, BV Puri is a nice guy but still, how can someone "so advanced" become so covered over? Maybe they get some money, maybe some followers, maybe some cheap adoration from the MAFIA's folks, but is it worth it to gain the whole world and lose your soul, as the Bible says? And after all the trouble of supporting the MAFIA, we still have to die and not be able to use the shekels or whatever it is -- they gave us?
Even another saffron clad fellow, BV Puri Maharaja, was sucked into the GBC's MAFIA program. He and Bhakta das arranged a program for "saint Radhanath." I know, BV Puri is a nice guy but still, how can someone "so advanced" become so covered over? Maybe they get some money, maybe some followers, maybe some cheap adoration from the MAFIA's folks, but is it worth it to gain the whole world and lose your soul, as the Bible says? And after all the trouble of supporting the MAFIA, we still have to die and not be able to use the shekels or whatever it is -- they gave us?
How did you guess, Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur guys told me to promote Bhakta das. Yep, we need to help them glorify the wonderful saintly Radhanath, who allegedly have a hand in the murders of Vaishnavas? (See the book Killing for Krishna).
And Sridhara swami must have known at that time Radhanath was involved in all this, or what? And that is Hanuman's idea of fixing things? We glorify Radhanath babbas best buds as gurus?
For starters in 1978, the GBC went to saffron sannyasa / guru / Gaudiya Matha leader / BR Sridhar Maharaja, and he had started a homosexual guru imbroglio in 1936. He believes that acharyas can "go mad after money, women and followers." And that was exactly the message the GBC wanted to promote at the time. "We have acharyas, but they might drift off to sense gratification, or worse."
And then BR Sridhara became the star "GBC's seniormost advisor" in 1978, saying that the 11 GBC are gurus and need to be worshiped as such. And then a number of our ISKCON saffron folks went off to stay with Sridhara Maharaja, initially agreeing with his endorsing the 11, like Jayatirtha Maharaja, Sudhir Krishna swami, Jagat Guru swami, Pancadravida swami, later on Tripurari swami, and many others. The most advanced saffron crowd was more bewildered than us sahajiyas, hee hee. We knew the GBC were not gurus and BR Sridhara was mistaken to think they are gurus.
Of course many other ISKCON sannyasa jumped onto the 1978 11's guru band wagon. Even Brahmanda was yelling at our people to accept the 11. So the support for the 11 bogus gurus came from a big sector of these saffron elites (and their self-advertised advisor Sridhar Maharaja) right out of the gate.
OK but didn't some of them, or many of them, or maybe all of the ISKCON saffron elites know that Kirtanananda and Bhavananda, and perhaps others, had material desire issues, maybe worse than that --sexual predator issues, maybe also homosexual tendencies?
Why would they juxtapose known tendencies to deviate with -- acharyas? Unless, they were motivated and so they wanted to join the sannyasa MAFIA for personal gains?
Then we had saffron "rasika guru" advisor to the saffron MAFIA, BV Narayana Maharaja. He was always hanging around with Tamal, Indradyumna, Satsvarupa, Giriraja, Sivarama, etc. Yep, while all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders are going on, lets talk about the gopis! Did we forget to mention -- people who are creating illicit sex acharyas are heading for the worst obnoxious places of the jagat, despite knowing the colors of the gopis saris?
Anyway we could go on here with tons of this history, but the point is, that these saffron elites are the cause of almost all the ISKCON troubles. And that is why Sulochana was right to say -- me and him are fighting the saffron MAFIA. That also means that the rank and file also failed because they should have helped us contain this problem. In sum, we wanted to make sure that this history is not being altered as some have been doing recently.
Lastly, false sannyasa / gurus are predicted for Kali Yuga. We even had Ravana dress as a sannyasa. We have to expect people will exploit these posts, but that does not mean we should blindly accept and not protest.
ys pd
angel108b@yahoo.com
And Sridhara swami must have known at that time Radhanath was involved in all this, or what? And that is Hanuman's idea of fixing things? We glorify Radhanath babbas best buds as gurus?
For starters in 1978, the GBC went to saffron sannyasa / guru / Gaudiya Matha leader / BR Sridhar Maharaja, and he had started a homosexual guru imbroglio in 1936. He believes that acharyas can "go mad after money, women and followers." And that was exactly the message the GBC wanted to promote at the time. "We have acharyas, but they might drift off to sense gratification, or worse."
And then BR Sridhara became the star "GBC's seniormost advisor" in 1978, saying that the 11 GBC are gurus and need to be worshiped as such. And then a number of our ISKCON saffron folks went off to stay with Sridhara Maharaja, initially agreeing with his endorsing the 11, like Jayatirtha Maharaja, Sudhir Krishna swami, Jagat Guru swami, Pancadravida swami, later on Tripurari swami, and many others. The most advanced saffron crowd was more bewildered than us sahajiyas, hee hee. We knew the GBC were not gurus and BR Sridhara was mistaken to think they are gurus.
Of course many other ISKCON sannyasa jumped onto the 1978 11's guru band wagon. Even Brahmanda was yelling at our people to accept the 11. So the support for the 11 bogus gurus came from a big sector of these saffron elites (and their self-advertised advisor Sridhar Maharaja) right out of the gate.
OK but didn't some of them, or many of them, or maybe all of the ISKCON saffron elites know that Kirtanananda and Bhavananda, and perhaps others, had material desire issues, maybe worse than that --sexual predator issues, maybe also homosexual tendencies?
Why would they juxtapose known tendencies to deviate with -- acharyas? Unless, they were motivated and so they wanted to join the sannyasa MAFIA for personal gains?
Then we had saffron "rasika guru" advisor to the saffron MAFIA, BV Narayana Maharaja. He was always hanging around with Tamal, Indradyumna, Satsvarupa, Giriraja, Sivarama, etc. Yep, while all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders are going on, lets talk about the gopis! Did we forget to mention -- people who are creating illicit sex acharyas are heading for the worst obnoxious places of the jagat, despite knowing the colors of the gopis saris?
Anyway we could go on here with tons of this history, but the point is, that these saffron elites are the cause of almost all the ISKCON troubles. And that is why Sulochana was right to say -- me and him are fighting the saffron MAFIA. That also means that the rank and file also failed because they should have helped us contain this problem. In sum, we wanted to make sure that this history is not being altered as some have been doing recently.
Lastly, false sannyasa / gurus are predicted for Kali Yuga. We even had Ravana dress as a sannyasa. We have to expect people will exploit these posts, but that does not mean we should blindly accept and not protest.
ys pd
angel108b@yahoo.com
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