Wednesday, July 31, 2019

Rocana Reflects on his Post Mortem Acharya


July 30, 2019 — CANADA (SUN) —

We have experienced from many perspectives how individuals and groups of devotees are dedicated to protecting Srila Prabhupada. We hear this sentiment from the ISKCON camp, the Rtvik camp, and even from the Narayana Maharaja camp, to a certain degree. In fact, it's almost become a platitude. From my perspective, the real challenge lies in coming to agreement on a uniform definition of who Srila Prabhupada is, beginning at the very top level, meaning what spiritual platform he is on. 

[PADA: Rocana says that we cannot worship Srila Prabhupada, whatever platform he is on because that is the "Bogus Church of Ritviks." Its not relevant at all what platform he is on, if he is not going to be the worshiped person of the religion, and his worship is going to be attacked as "the church idea."]

In my mind, making such a determination begins with coming to a determination of whether he is a nitya-siddha or a sadhana-siddha. If out of sentiment one says that Srila Prabhupada is nitya-siddha, a designation popularly placed on Srila Prabhupada by some devotees, that in itself is at least a true statement. The question is, what is the level of realization behind the statement.

In the context of ISKCON the question is, what official presentation of Srila Prabhupada is being made that establishes Srila Prabhupada 100% in that position of nitya-siddha? In other words, what are all the symptoms or indications exhibited throughout Srila Prabhupada's entire life and pastimes that lead us to believe that he is a nitya-siddha? Unfortunately, we find that ISKCON offers no such definitive statement.

Years ago I wrote my Sampradaya Acarya paper, in which I make the argument that Srila Prabhupada is a nitya-siddha, and not only that, but also a Sampradaya Acarya. 

[PADA: Yes, that is fine but Rocana also says that anyone who worships Prabhupada is like a bogus Christian who worships Jesus, aka his paper called -- "The Church of Ritviks." So Srila Prabhupada is the acharya, sort of, but we cannot worship him as the acharya or else we will have a mundane religion like the Christians. Except, Srila Prabhupada never says that worship of the acharyas and / or Jesus is a mundane process? And if we are not going to have an acharya for the church, and WORSE we are going to attack the acharya as dead, irrelevant and post mortem, then we wonder why there are illicit sex and debauchees grabbing the post so easily? Because you have DISPLACED the acharya making it easy to REPLACE him with charlatans.]

Now without repeating the main points of that paper, which I encourage our Sun audience to read if they're so inclined, the fact is that Srila Prabhupada was sent on a mission by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and / or Nityananda Prabhu to spread the Krsna consciousness movement around the world. And if one begins to train their mind to see Srila Prabhupada in that way, then your perspective will change dramatically.

[PADA: And that means, Srila Prabhupada is the founder of the mundane church of ritviks because he said his followers are not qualified to be acharyas, but priests (at best).]

When you look at the highlights of Srila Prabhupada's entire lila, and in particular his ISKCON lila, you will begin to see how Srila Prabhupada has made this fact abundantly clear. I wouldn't say that he was 'dropping big hints', but rather that he was sending out a message for those who, if they are advanced enough, purified enough, non-envious, would be able to see that he is a Sampradaya Acarya.

[PADA: Yes, Prabhupada is the founder of a mundane idea that we should continue to worship the acharya even after he departs, which Rocana calls the post samadhi, posthumous and post mortem worship process. Anyone who worships a departed acharya is worshiping the post mortem, as Rocana has described numerous times. Yep, we need to worship one of Rocana's "living debauchees" acharyas instead.]

One only has to consider any one of the Lord's lilas, whether it be Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu 500 years ago, or Krsna Himself 5,000 years ago, to see that very few of those who observed the lila at the time appreciated on the highest level just who Sri Krsna was. How many people on the battlefield of Kurukshetra knew that He was Krsna? How many during Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's lila knew that Lord Caitanya was God? But in both cases, great Acaryas have spoken volumes in order to bring the fallen conditioned souls to the realization that these personalities were actually God.

[PADA: Its amazing that Rocana thinks worship of the previous acharyas is post mortem, that would make Krishna also post mortem. And Rocana says he has "defeated ritvik vada" aka what he says is worship of the post mortem acharya?]

Of course, biographies have been authorized and written about Lord Caitanya, like the Caitanya-caritamrta and the Caitanya Bhagavat, what to speak of the authorized biographies of the great Acaryas who came in succession from Him. And today, we are in an era wherein those personalities who are empowered to the same degree that Krishna Das Kaviraja was empowered to write the Caitanya-caritamrta, should be clearly describing who Srila Prabhupada really is. What is needed is a bona fide, authentic biography of Srila Prabhupada which establishes him as a nitya-siddha, maha-bhagavat Sampradaya Acarya.

[PADA: Right, and in the introduction we need to say, Srila Prabhupada and his works are post samadhi, posthumous, and post mortem.] 

Personally, I found that it takes a great deal of effort, both mental and practical, in order to break free from the immature, illusory impressions that I carried with me of who is Srila Prabhupada. These were embedded into my consciousness at a very early point in my Krsna conscious devotional life. Needless to say, the impression that is being given of Srila Prabhupada through Satsvarupa's Srila Prabhupada-lilamrta also requires purging, and that is the point of my personal comments in the Sun's "Deconstructing the Lilamrta" series.

[PADA: Rocana is repeating what Satsvarupa and his 1986 "Guru reformers" were saying in 1986, we cannot worship the post samadhi, posthumous and post mortem dead acharyas, which self evidently includes Krishna. We cannot have a bogus church that worships the acharya, which opens the Pandora's box to worship all sorts of deviants.]

Unless one has made some progress in understanding Srila Prabhupada from this perspective, it's almost impossible to know how to protect Srila Prabhupada. We can put our attention on protecting his books, or his temple assets, or his stellar image, but if we don't really understand who Srila Prabhupada is, then our efforts to protectively serve him will be flawed.

[PADA: Rocana is always quoted by GBC defenders, because they send me links to his site all the time, as do the other GBC agenda defenders like Torben, Ajit Krishna, Hanuman Croatia and others of the post mortem acharya's ilk.] 

We are taught to protect Krsna in His many manifestations as diligently as possible, such as in the form of the Deities in the temple, the Holy Scriptures, and the Holy Name. But our ability to act spontaneously to protect God, when circumstances call for it, is completely relative to our personal level of realization that these manifestations are non-different than Krsna, the Supreme Personality.

[PADA: The acharya is post mortem makes the deity post mortem and so on and so forth, which is why someone told me his temple's mangala arotike used to have eighty people, but now has only one or two people and "its like going to a funeral." Rocana is making the entire ISKCON post mortem with his post mortem acharya ideas.]

So if one applies this same principle to Srila Prabhupada, one has to appreciate how important it is to preserve and protect what Srila Prabhupada has left us. Of course, the list is very long in that regard. But ultimately, what has not been protected due to a lack of realization and appreciation of Srila Prabhupada's exalted spiritual status, is his mood, his mission, his urgency, his preaching spirit, his transcendental vision, which was all-inclusive and above any level of material contamination, and his true place in the parampara.

[PADA: Why would anyone want to preserve the post mortem?]

Whether Srila Prabhupada's mood can be duplicated or resurrected, even to a degree, completely depends upon one's acceptance of the philosophical position that Srila Prabhupada is a Sampradaya Acarya. If he is relegated to being just a member of the Sampradaya, equal in stature to his godbrothers, or just the Founder/Acarya of ISKCON rather than the preeminent Founder/Acarya of the Sampradaya itself, then how can his mood truly be represented and recreated?

Srila Prabhupada obviously tried to impress upon us and the world - and his godbrothers - that the way he was managing and pushing on Krsna consciousness within his ISKCON society was what the previous Sampradaya Acaryas wanted. Thus, they reciprocated by empowering not only Srila Prabhupada himself, but all of his disciples, who were able to accomplish what they did in such a short time. We were just young recruits with so little pious background or real life experience, yet due to Srila Prabhupada's potency, we accomplished great things -- because this is what the Sampradaya, which is ultimately Krsna, wanted us to do.

Today, without a Sampradaya Acarya personally present, unfolding his lila and enveloping us in it, we are required to collectively accomplish the task which he tried to define for us and display for us. Collectively we can accomplish this, but individually it becomes an impossibility due to our lack of spiritual advancement as individuals. So to accomplish the re-establishment of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON without him being personally or physically present, is the real challenge before us. First of all we must realize, then protect, the true exalted spiritual position of Srila Prabhupada, the Sampradaya Acarya.

[PADA: That is why Rocana's Vancouver GBC temple is falling apart and is in deteriorated status, while the "ritvik temple" here is doing great. We have a living guru here, while Rocana has a post mortem guru there. And a new person just wrote to tell me that at the Sunday feast they try to cram a copy of Radhanath's book into the faces of the guests, but that is fine because Radhanath is one of Rocana's "living" guru reformers, who was voted in at Rocana's guru reform school. ys pd]

Tuesday, July 30, 2019

Jayapataka speaks on Karma Question

Self appointed karma vacuum cleaner, Jayapataka swami 


Its implications:

Question: Hare Krsna guru maharaj, 

Maharaj said: Accepted. 

If someone eats remnants of my food does my bhakti go to that person? No matter how much I try to avoid, usually someone eats or drinks from my plate. Is my bhakti lost? Kajal Srivastava

HH: Kajal Srivastava – one way you can avoid having people eat from your plate, don’t leave any remnants! Eat everything! Or when they are serving out don’t accept more than you can eat! If you do then you are asking for it for people to take your remnants. 

Eating remnants means they give you their karma and take your good qualities. So if you have any bhakti as good quality, then they may share that. If they have any sins, they give you, free! You are very merciful! The guru is supposed to give remnants, but the other devotees, they eat all their prasadam.

Excerpt from yesterday's class by HH Jayapataka Swami.

[PADA: Wow! So Jayapataka started a process of offering bhogha to conditioned souls, in fact -- his illicit sex and drugs conditioned souls acharyas, and he claimed that is "prasadam." OK its not prasadam, it remains bhogha. And if the bhogha then takes on the qualities of the people its offered to, then that means his bhogha is infused with material contamination, since its being offered to people full of such contamination.  

That also means -- JPS is co-responsible for making hundreds of thousands of people around the world eat bhogha and not prasadam. Its interesting that he understands that the guru takes karma, and he is taking a boat load from tens of thousands of people. So this is why these false gurus go to the lowest regions, they are surrounded on the subtle plane with a huge dark cloud of sins they have taken from their followers. This acts like a stone weight that takes them down to the bottom of the universe -- at the time of death ... 

Did I forget to mention -- a lot of these GBC gurus are getting sick, falling down, and dying from taking karma? One devotee said in fact -- its an epidemic of their falling down, getting sick and dying in their camp.

OK! ONLY the guru is supposed to give remnants, but suppose he is not qualified to be guru? And suppose he is then giving people his remnants? And suppose he is doing that massively, by people offering the bhogha to him? Then he is taking massive karma. And these false guru will then have to -- suffer. Agreed! ys pd]  

Make Krishna Smile (SP Video)

Promo Video for Los Angeles Rathayatra 2019

Sunday, July 28, 2019

Conversation About ISKCON Children (w / Comment Update) VIDEO

[PADA: An ex-child victim of the abuse said that no one was helping them, including often the parents themselves, and that is what lead to them having a sour attitude. Yep, many parents and people like Mukunda UK etc. told me to keep a lid on my protest of the abuse, they wanted to silence us dissenters and keep status quo. 

So it was a conspiracy of silence on one level, of course some folks were not silent, they defended the regime. A victim also wrote to tell me that when the victims see people like Radhanath being glorified, its re-victimizing them. Anyway, a victim says there is a special place in hell for all those involved in this abuse regime, and we would be in sympathy with that victim. ys pd] 

Little Krishna (for kids) Video in Tamil

PADA: Gradually this is being translated into various languages. Its great for children (as I have seen personally). ys pd

Nrsimha Kavaca Illness Gofundme

PADA: Yep, plenty of money for million dollar lawsuits. 

This guy has "travelled the world extensively" to train people to worship the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. Is his "bad stomach condition" related to the fact he is telling people to stop eating prasadam? He wants people to no longer offer bhogha to Srila Prabhupada, but to offer bhogha instead to his illicit sex guru sampradaya. 

In other words, he is creating an international bhogha eating society, then he wonders why, he is sick? Yep, wherever this guy goes, people are told to stop eating prasadam by offering to the pure devotee. They are being told to offer bhogha to the defective GBC instead, which means then they are eating bhogha. 

And we need to send funds to help that process along? No, I am not wishing ill on anyone, its just that if you want people to eat bhogha and stop eating prasadam, there might be a reaction. Just saying! ys pd

We need to offer our bhogha to these guys, then the bhogha takes on the qualities of the people its being offered to ...

Suresh: Mission Statement regarding the Tulsi Gabbard Affair

Suresh John Gensler:

Mission Statement regarding the Tulsi Gabbard Affair:

Individuals, most of whom, no longer live in ISKCON temples. are free to follow any political party and support any candidate. Everyone is free to accept or reject religious principles and practices that Srila Prabhupada introduced. As friends of the devotees, you are of course free to choose. We are all just beginners on the bhakti-yoga path and full surrender is a long way off. We all have varying degrees of commitment. 

What I object to is abusing and misrepresenting Srila Prabhupada's teachings, by representatives and spokespeople for ISKCON, especially those who claim to be Srila Prabhupada's own disciples and followers, to promote a political candidate, when it involves deliberately twisting and changing Srila Prabhupada's words to justify your cause. They are pretending that Srila Prabhupada endorses Tulsi's candidacy, outright rejecting Srila Prabhupada's teachings, suggesting a rewrite of Srila Prabhupada's books, while pretending you're promoting Krsna consciousness. 

I most vehemently oppose persons who are taking advantage of their tax-free, non-profit status, and living under the umbrella of non-profit organizations, accepting donations from the public, claiming to promote Krsna consciousness, which includes pro-life protection of children in the womb, but who are actually promoting a political campaign opposed to it instead, which happens to be illegal under IRS tax code.

to William Benedict -

We are only interested in the simple act of recording tax code violations and reporting them. The rest goes no where. It takes a lot of work, cross checking, submitting the tax forms, but who cares that much or is clever enough to do it? What the Democrat-Vaishnava community is counting on then, is no one will ever blow the whistle on Prabhupada's movement, but if ever there was an opportunity to do it, this is like shooting fish in a barrel. In the back of your mind, you know, you just might get "Sulocaned" for your trouble, so few ever try.

PADA: Most devotees no longer live under the ISKCON umbrella and therefore they are not even slightly legally required to follow the IRS charity codes of ISKCON. If reporting false charity use could be easily done, then why haven't you got ISKCON audited by mis-using the aim and object of the religion a long time ago?

Suresh: What I'm speaking of here is different however. First the tax-exempt ISKCON temples and organizations may not engage in promoting political campaigns, according to IRS code. Secondly, many leaders of ISKCON, and disciples of Srila Prabhupada, have separately incorporated themselves, setting up tax-free, non-profit organizations, so they, their families, and friends, may also live under a tax-free umbrella, in the name of spreading Krsna consciousness, in addition to ISKCON's charities. However, because they're also engaged in promoting a political campaign, they're potentially breaking the IRS code for themselves.

IRS tax law was changed, a few years ago, so that individuals, who are members of charities, are entitled to their own political opinions, separate from the charity, without violating tax code for the larger organizations they serve. However, many of these same individuals in greater ISKCON, also have their own tax-exempt charities, so when they engage in promoting Tulsi Gabbard's campaign, especially involving their own charities in her campaign, they risk losing their tax-exempt status as well.

Because they believe Tulsi Gabbard is a Joan-of-Arc type, shakyavesa empowered representative of Krsna, and savior of America, their need to promote her campaign is so urgent, along with the intense desire to remove President Trump, from the White House, whom they cast as a demon, they're willing to risk losing even their tax-exempt status, to promote her political campaign. The IRS won't take the case to end their tax exemption, unless the non-profit has sufficient assets compared to cost of an investigation. Most of the groups will likely get away with it, because they're too small now and possibly broke as well. Tulsi would give a great shot in the arm to failing ISKCON-America, by attracting new members (to milk) with their much needed cash flow, which is likely what it's all about. Get it?

PADA: Right, again most devotees no longer live under the ISKCON umbrella and therefore they are not even slightly legally required to follow the IRS charity codes of ISKCON. Of course, ISKCON incorporation papers ALREADY say that they are supposed to follow and agree with Srila Prabhupada's teachings, but that is not happening in official ISKCON either. In fact, the GBC is burying deviants in the dham while claiming that this is Srila Prabhupada's teachings. 

Why not fix that issue instead of making a big hoopla about Tulsi Gabbard, who probably agrees with us that its not a good idea to bury deviants in the dham? You got to pick your battles, and the main battle should be -- to go after the upper crust managers of the society who are promoting the worship of deviants as God's successors, and placing said deviants into samadhis. 

And if you can nail someone for not following the "ISKCON Articles of Incorporation," what has taken you folks so long to do that, and nail the GBC a long time ago? What is the hold up here? You are going to legally nail the Tulsi Gabbard support crew, while avoiding legally going after the illicit sex with men, women and children guru's sabha crew?

Kirtanananda samadhi

Is this following the IRS tax codes of ISKCON?

PADA: Not that long ago, anyone going to a Siddhaswarupa program was then banned from ISKCON, but now various official ISKCON leaders are apparently encouraging and promoting -- a follower of Siddhaswarupa. So there is really no standard process here whatever. It seems if one has some sort of fame or position, they will be promoted, and the old Siddhaswarupa battle is completely forgotten. Srila Prabhupada did say we should not get involved with politics in general because "you will become implicated." 

Suresh: You're not understanding my point.

PADA: Ok but ISKCON already says that Krishna's successors / parampara members / acharyas are often debauchees, which is for sure not part of their Articles of Incorporation papers? And worse, they are preaching that idea to little children, that God's successor acharyas are often debauchees, which a  lawyer friend told me is -- illegally corrupting the morals of minors. 

Why has nothing ever been done to address this is what people ask me all the time? "Devotees" have (illegally?) preached that the successors to Krishna are falling down left, right and center for years now, and that is not part of the Articles of Incorporation in any official ISKCON document. 

If we cannot even stop people from illegally corrupting the morals of minors, not sure how we can fix much else? But if you have a plan, I'll help out. This is the whole question from 1977, how can we get devotees to follow the original Articles of Incorporation of ISKCON, which does not mention making conditioned souls into its acharyas? 

Suresh: Your further clarification still misses my point.

PADA: The point is simple, already almost no one is following the original Articles of Incorporation of the ISKCON society. If forcing people to comply with these documents is a good method of fixing things, then my lawyer friend would not be asking me -- why this is never being fixed since 1977? 

They did not even follow the order, for neophytes to NOT take disciples and take their karma. To sum then, it not really possible for people like Suresh to force the GBC to follow the "Articles of Incorporation of ISKCON." He does not seem to be even working on forcing the GBC to operate in that process. 

Instead, he wants to force the alienated mass of rank and file -- who are no longer even participating in ISKCON for the most part -- to have to follow the official ISKCON "Articles of Incorporation" and "ISKCON IRS guidelines." OK, that seems like a lot of diverting from the real issue, i.e. the GBC does not follow the actual process given by the acharya, nor do they apparently follow the process as is stated in the original ISKCON "Articles of Incorporation." Its avoiding fixing the foundational deviation. ys pd   

Kamika Ekadasi

Kamika Ekadasi

KAmikA EkAdasii – from BrahmA Vaivarta PurANa:

The saintly king Yudhisthira maharaj said, “Oh Supreme Lord, I have heard from You the glories of fasting on Deva-sayani EkAdasii, which occurs during the light fortnight of the month of AshADha. Now I would like to hear from You the glories of the EkAdasii that occurs during the dark fortnight (krishna paksha) of the month of ShrAvaNa (July –August). Oh Govindadeva, please be merciful to me and explain its glories. Oh Supreme VAsudeva, I offer my most humble obeisances unto You.”

The Supreme Lord, Shri Krishna, replied, “Oh King, please listen attentively as I describe the auspicious influence of this Holy fast (vrata) day, which removes all sins. Narada Muni once asked Lord BrahmA about this same topic. ‘Oh regent of all beings,’ said NAradji, ‘Oh you who sit upon a water born lotus throne, please tell me the names of the EkAdasii that occurs during the dark fortnight of the sacred month of ShrAvaNa. Please also tell me which Deity is to be worshipped on that Holy day, the process one must follow to observe it, and the merit it awards.’

“Lord BrahmA replied, ‘My dear son Narada, for the benefit of all humanity I shall happily tell you everything you wish to know, for just hearing the glories of the KAmikA EkAdasii bestows merit equal to that obtained by one who performs a horse sacrifice. Certainly, great merit is attained by one who worships, and who also meditates on the lotus feet of the four-armed Lord GadAdhara, who holds conchshell, disc, club and lotus in His hands and who is also known as Shridhara, Hari, Vishnu, Madhava, and MadhusUdana. 

And the blessings achieved by such a person / devotee, who worships Lord Vishnu exclusively are far greater than those achieved by one who takes a sacred bath in the Ganges at KAshi (VarANasii), in the forest of NaimishAraNya, or at Pushkara, which is the only place on the planet where I am formally worshipped. But one who observes this KAmikA EkAdasii and also worships Lord Shri Krishna achieves greater merit than one who has darshana of Lord KedAranAtha in the HimAlayas, or one who bathes at Kurukshetra during a solar eclipse, or one who donates the whole Earth in charity, including its forests and oceans, or one who bathes in the GaNDaki River (where the sacred Shaligrams are found) or the GodAvari River on a full moon (purnima) day that falls on a Monday when Leo (Simha) and Jupiter (Guru) are conjoined (conjunct).

"Observing KAmikA EkAdasii bestows the same merit as donating a milk-cow and her auspicious calf, along with their feed. On this all auspicious day, whosoever worships Lord Sri Shridhara-deva, Vishnu, is glorified by all the devas, Gandharvas, Pannagas, and NAgas.

"Those who are afraid of their past sins and completely immersed in sinful materialistic life should at least observe this best of EkAdasiis according to their ability and thus attain liberation. This EkAdasii is the purest of all days and the most powerful for removing sins of the native. Oh Narada ji, Lord Shri Hari Himself once said about this EkAdasii, “One who fasts on KAmikA EkAdasii attains much more merit than one who studies all the spiritual literatures.”

"Anyone who fasts on this particular day remains awake throughout the night will never experience the anger of YamarAja, the king of death personified. It has been seen that whoever observes KAmikA EkAdasii will not have to suffer future births, and in the past too, many Yogis of devotion who fasted on this day went to the spiritual world. One should therefore follow in their auspicious footsteps and strictly observe a fast on this most auspicious of EkAdasiis.

"Whosoever worships Lord Shri Hari with Tulasi leaves is freed from all implication of sin. Indeed, he lives untouched by sin, as the lotus leaf, although in the water, is untouched by it. Whosoever offers Lord Shri Hari but a single leaf from the sacred Tulasi tree (occillium basilcum sanctum) attains as much merit as one who gives away in charity two hundred grams of gold and eight hundred grams of silver. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is more pleased by one who offers Him a single Tulasi leaf than by one who worships Him with pearls, rubies, topaz, diamonds, lapis lazuli, sapphires, gomedA stones (gomaz), cat’s eye gems, and coral. 

"One who offers Lord Keshava newly grown maNjari buds from the Tulasi plant gets rid of all the sins he has committed during this or any other lifetime. Indeed, mere darshana of Tulasi on KAmikA EkAdasii removes all sins, and merely touching her and praying to her removes all kinds of disease. One who waters Tulasi devi need never fear the Lord of death, YamarAja. One who plants or transplants Tulasi on this days will eventually reside with Lord Shri Krishna in His own abode. To Srimati Tulasi devi, who awards liberation in devotional service, one should therefore daily offer one’s full obeisances.

"Even Chitragupta, YamarAja’s secretary, cannot calculate the merit obtained by one who offers Shrimati Tulasi-devi a perpetually burning ghee lamp. So dear is this sacred EkAdasii to the Supreme Personality of Godhead that all the forefathers of one who offers a bright ghee lamp to Lord Shri Krishna on this day ascend to the heavenly planets and drink the celestial nectar there. Whoever offers a ghee or sesame oil lamp to Shri Krishna on this day is freed from all his sins and enters the abode of Surya, the Sun-god, with a body as bright as ten million lamps. 

This EkAdasii is so powerful that if one who is unable to fast simply follows the practices as mentioned herein, s/he is elevated to the heavenly planets, along with all their forefathers.

"Oh Maharaj Yudhisthira,” Lord Shri Krishna concluded, “…these were the words of prajapathi BrahmA to his son Narada Muni concerning the incalculable glories of this KAmikA EkAdasii, which removes all sins. This sacred day nullifies even the sin of killing a brAhmaNa or the sin of killing an unborn child in the womb, and it promotes one to the spiritual world by making one supremely meritorious.
One who kills the innocent, i.e., a brahmin (brAhmaNa), a child in the womb, a pious and spotless woman, etc., and then later hears about the glories of KAmikA EkAdasii will be relieved of the reaction to one’s sins. 

However, one should NOT think beforehand that one can kill a Brahmin or other innocent folk and then go unpunished simply by hearing of this EkAdasii. Such knowing commission of sin is an abomination. Whosoever hears these glories of the KAmikA EkAdasii with faith becomes free of all sins and returns home, back to Godhead – Vishnu-loka, Vaikuntha.

Thus ends the narration of the glories of the ShrAvaNa-kRshNa EkAdasii, or KAmikA EkAdasii, from the Brahma-Vaivarta PurANa.

Saturday, July 27, 2019

Europe's Heat Wave Moving into the Arctic

Paramadvaiti Swami Should "Retire in Vndavana"

[PADA: After his many "photos of hugging women" problem, and then we find out he is "getting massages" from women, then we find out -- its "much more than massages." And now he is maybe going to retire? What? No explanation that he and the other fools were never qualified to be acharyas in the first place?]

JD: I see the situation is more serious than I knew and I feel that it is my duty to let Paramadvaiti swami know. I am sharing this thread with him. I have also been receiving private messages and I want you all to know that I have told him again the following, as I did the first time around.

(1) The problem is not following the rules of sannyasa as given by Rupa Goswami. The making of many disciples, big projects and so on are all forbidden in the Bhagavatam. The Bhagavatam forbids a man from being alone with his own sister or daughter, what to speak of a sannyasi. Massages and so on are not a part of the austere regime of a sannyasi. The first thing is to follow sannyas vows strictly, probably for the first time. Not sannyas for prestige as is the case in IGM.

(2) Stop traveling around the world. Stay in Vrindavan and commit yourself to bhajan. You are in the last part of your life. Take shelter of the Dham in all seriousness and apply yourself to the practice of Krishna bhakti as taught by Rupa Goswami in Upadeshamrita.

(3) Apologize individually to every woman you have improperly touched throughout your career and make amends as far as is possible with each individually.

(4) Make a public statement confessing your transgressions and make some proper public atonement. Give up your position as acharya of VRINDA and let Atulananda Swami (or some other well-situated leader, grihastha or sannyasi) be the acharya.

To some extent, BAP has followed (1) and (2), but has not adequately given attention to (3) and (4).

I would also ask for senior godbrothers of his, whether Bhakti Sudhir Goswami, Nrisingha Maharaj, Tripurari Maharaj and other members of the WVA also to intervene and ask him to do what has been suggested here. Otherwise, all the good work that he has done will be for nought and he will have brought all his own gurus and the entire Vaishnava religion into disrepute, his name will be sullied forever.

If I am any friend of his, indeed if I am a friend of BAP and a lover of this beautiful Vaishnava dharma, then I say what I think here and hope that for the sake of Mahaprabhu, Srila Prabhupada, Srila Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur and Bhaktivinoda Thakur, that he make an attempt to correct the blemish he has brought upon their names.

Jai Sri Radhe Shyam.

[PADA: Good suggestions. Bravo. Main thing is in my opinion, we have to admit that neophytes cannot and should not take the post of acharya / guru / parampara member. Srila Prabhupada warned us a number of times that if we neophytes take the post of diksha guru / or even allow people to touch our feet, we will be taking other's sins, and this will over burden us and cause us to fail. And that is happening to them left, right and center. ys pd]

JD: They do and they did. A low grade disciple will naturally gravitate to a low grade guru. This is not a bad thing in itself. Everyone seeks their own level. Even a cheater who gives the Holy Name -- namabhas, namaparadh -- still gives the semblance of the Holy Name. The shastra gives both verdicts. It is good, it is not good. It is indeed both.

[PADA: Yes, but one unfortunate result is that they create a united body of angry disgruntled ex-disciples who start web sites and forums attacking the entire Krishna religion as a bogus process. In other words, they are generating permanent angry enemies against the religion. That is for sure not so good, because it makes it a lot harder for the sincere to preach. 

That is why Rupa Goswami says these false gurus are creating a disturbance for the sincere devotees. Of course these fallen gurus are sometimes a useful tool for me, to show people that its better not to accept them in the first place. In any case, ordinary citizens will sometimes write me asking about these sites of the disgruntled, and its a whole mess for me to have to try to explain what happened here, and more importantly, I have to try to explain why the so-called sincere people seemed to be aloof and did not try to check and control these problems a long time ago, including all sorts of deviations that went on and on in ISKCON with little checks and balances from the so-called sincere people. Its creating a not so good impression of the religion itself. ys pd]

KP: A huge part of such problems is taking sannyasa in the first place. It is forbidden in the age of Kali for a good reason. While devotees pretend it doesn’t apply to them, the real life shows they’re wrong. And taking sannyas in relatively young age is especially impractical.

Friday, July 26, 2019

ISKCON devotees (?) "Rehab Center" Raided by Police in Russia

[PADA: This is run by Jayapataka's people]

In a drug treatment center run by ISKCON followers, a patient died. There is a question about a criminal case.

A patient died in the drug treatment center in Vladivostok, another 30 stated that they were beaten and illegally held (PHOTO; 18+)

For several months, security forces and law enforcement agencies conducted a check of "Rastsvet". The result was a large-scale search: last week and on Friday, July 26th. When law enforcement agencies entered the center, some of the patients in prison there wept with happiness - that they were finally released and could return to their relatives. Following the results of all the events, 29 people wrote statements about forcible confinement and two about abduction.

One of the victims was found not in the center, but in a "thousand bed" hospital in Vladivostok. A man named Vasiliy jumped out of the center window in Nakhodka, trying to escape. However, in the process, he injured his leg and could not run away to the end. According to the patient, he was held in a rehabilitation center for two weeks, and only then was sent to the emergency room, where he was assigned to VKB No. 2.

However, representatives of the authorities were surprised that there was no record of the man’s admission to the hospital’s journal - an informed source told Why is the big question that the organs will deal with.

Inside the rehabilitation center on Solnechnaya, 22 in Nakhodka, they found signs with obscene inscriptions. As it turned out, patients were forced to walk in the center for disobedience, putting on signs with obscene inscriptions. Also, according to reports, people were beaten, including on the genitals, and the men were forced to change into women's clothing. The premises found many images of Krishna and religious literature.

According to the source, at the moment the issue of initiating criminal proceedings against the rehabilitation center and its head is being addressed under articles No. 126 (kidnapping) and part 2 No. 127 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (unlawful deprivation of liberty with violence). continues to monitor developments.

Anyone with more info:
Please send details and / or updates to PADA @

Gaura Gopal's Hodge Podge Preaching (Video)

Let Local Devotees Take Over Full Management (Bhakta Torben)

Let Local Devotees Take Over Full Management


Jul 24, 2019 — DENMARK 



"Learning Spanish is a difficult job. How can you learn? I am very much enthusiastic about expansion of our branches, but if it is dependent upon learning of Spanish language, don't take this adventure. We should serve Krishna in whatever talents we have already got.

However if you are still very much anxious to go there, and you think that you shall be able to get along without knowing Spanish language, then you may go there immediately and push on this Movement. The idea is to recruit active speakers who also speak English to translate and be trained for administering things locally—you simply organize everything and instruct them, and gradually they will take over full management."

(Srila Prabhupada Letter to Nandakisora, 15th November, 1971)

PADA: This is great! Torben is now agreeing with the identical method "the Prabhupadanugas" are using for organizing their local programs, i.e. using local people. Yep, there is no need for a big expensive GBC "Jet Set Guru" to temporary fly in for an annual, or maybe bi-annual "initiation" program. 

A GBC guru will maybe fly in every 12 months to initiate a few people, take some guru daksine, ask the temple to pay for his airfare, and then leave -- without really helping the initiates with much of their day to day inspiration or managing afterwards. Sorry, this requires a local managing structure.

The GBC has mentioned this problem themselves, there are billions of people, but only a small number of GBC, thus they are simply spread out WAY too thin to manage many people, even if they wanted to. Of course this also explains why there are so many problems. The problematic issues are simply way too many, and in way too many places -- for the GBC's to even start to handle. And they evidently do not allow many local junior subordinates to really take charge, so that leaves us without a really "hands on" management process. 

That is why we have had some of the followers of various "gurus" like Svarupa Damodar, Bhagavan, Gaura Govinda maharaja, Narayan Maharaja and others become sort of like little cultish programs of pot smoking and deteriorated devotee standards. Their leadership has been located far, far away from the local field, perhaps in India -- and so forth. Thus the local people have not been getting much "local guidance" from their far away guru, and so they had a tendency to slide down in their practices. 

Of course, this local emphasis idea makes a lot of sense even for a large church or corporation, they have had to use the "local people" to manage the local programs mainly, while the big leaders are simply supposed to help coordinate the various local program's into unified national or international programs -- like for example mass book printing, making large pilgrimage temples in different places, and assisting coordinating other larger projects such as schools, Bible colleges and so forth. 

In the church, the local leader is called the priest, also called a ritvik, and we are glad Torben agrees this is the best managing idea. Yes, most of the "day to day" functions should be done on the local level.

Rocana's apparent idea of having 45 gurus to manage a temple with 10 people makes no sense at all, too many chiefs, not enough workers? This is why his local Vancouver ISKCON temple is having so many problems. Rocana's plan gives them a pile of gurus, but not enough workers, so the common day to day issues are not being done properly. Yes, local churches have a local priest who manages the local program, then there is the "council of churches" or "governing body" that helps with printing Bibles, making the Bible colleges and so forth. That is a great system and we should also have something similar. And that is what the Prabhupadanugas are doing here in Sunnyvale and in Edison NJ, there is a local management process mainly, and its working nicely. ys pd    

Edison NJ Prabhupadanugas Food Distribution Program

Radha Gopinath at Edison NJ

Hope you're having a good day so far. Every year during Janmasthami we give free food to thousands of people, including those who are needy, homeless, underprivileged etc. So far this year we fed almost 2,500 needy people and this year we want to feed almost 5,000 more.

If you could support us by making a contribution as Sewa and then sharing it with your network, we would greatly appreciate it. I know that money can be tight, so please know that even $1, $10, $50, 100 helps us get closer to our goal and make impact! 

It just takes $2.5 to sponsor 4 course meal per person. Our calculation:- $2.5 * 5,000 People = $12, 500. Do visit us and let me know if you have any questions and I’ll be happy to answer them.

Sri Radha Gopinath Temple is located in New Jersey. Apart from having all other Social and Spiritual initiatives for the community, our food distribution program has been a priority for us. We with the support of our well-wishers have worked together in Feeding needy, homeless, destitute and all visitors specially on all Sundays and major events.

Wednesday, July 24, 2019

The Journey Home: Open Letter to H.H. Danavir Goswami PT. 57

The Journey Home:

Open Letter to H.H. Danavir Goswami


PART FIFTY-SEVEN: Reform Your Fellow GBCs or Walk Away

Dear Danavir Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances, All glories to Shrila Prabhupada. My greetings to you are not mere words—I sincerely put my head into dust of your feet and beg that you convey the blessings of your spiritual master.

For years you have been soldiering on, serving Shrila Prabhupada in all sorts of capacities. And first and foremost you have continued to speak the message of His Divine Grace as it is... the simple, basic and essential formula for extricating fallen souls from the excruciating bonds of material Nature. Your article, linked from Part 56 of this ongoing series (at least the article is attributed to you, so we assume that it is genuine) reveals that you have spoken up to oppose nonsense so-called "yoga" in ISKCON. Your words demonstrate your loyalty to your spiritual master and the Gaudiya parampara.

[PADA: OK this is the whole problem with the Kailash / Rocana / Torben / Hanuman Croatia / Ajit Krishna crowd. They apparently think that the main supporters of the illicit sex guru parampara (like Danavir / Bhakti Vikas swami etc.) are bona fide preachers who are "extricating souls from material bondage" by following "the real process" etc. There seems to be a lot of sentimental attachment to various members of the GBC's guru cabal. 

Simultaneously, they cannot seem to clearly identify who is their actual guru, and what is the factual guru ashraya process that should be preached or followed. They rarely mention the name of folks like Bhakti Vikas swami / Danavir swami and so forth. They usually just say -- we have to "go and find a guru somewhere." OK and that process is already being done, most people are already leaving the worship of Srila Prabhupada and they are instead worshiping the GBC's gurus, Gaudiya Matha's gurus and so forth. And that means, there is almost no one left to worship Srila Prabhupada.

And some people write to me saying there is always the hope that "one of them" is bona fide, such as Danavir swami, Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Sridhara swami, Bhakti Vikas swami, Jayapataka swami etc. Except, there are no examples of any bona fide acharyas participating in an illicit sex and drugs guru parampara? Nor are acharyas "voted in" to such a process?

And then we hear, all of this concoction is speaking "the original message" of Krishna "as it is." The supporters of porno swami Gunagrahi, and / or deviants like Vipramukhya swami et al. are bona fide? Sorry, worship of conditioned souls / deviants does not extricate souls from the material world. 

Radhanath just gave an initiation ceremony in Los Angeles, if anything the GBC is doubling down on making him their primary spokesman and leader. Or worse, Radhanath is the actual person in charge of the whole operation, and the other GBC are his subordinated underlings -- which seems to be more and more the case. 

This is good news and bad news. The good news is, most people already know Radhanath is bogus for his support of Kirtanananda's regime in New Vrndavana, making a samadhi for Kirtanananda, writing his bogus books and so on. The bad news is, the GBC never seems to have any actual clue that they are on the wrong path, and they normally just double down and support people whose "guru" history is indefensible. 

Meanwhile some fairly new person was asking me about all this just a few days ago, and he asked me this question: "there seems to be a lot of homosexuals in the GBC's guru program, or is it just me"? Then again, the GBC does not seem to ever really think that they have a big problem, ever? They apparently think its all a few minor league issues that just need a little minor tinkering to be fixed. Hee hee!]

ISKCON's current corrupt practice of deceiving the public with "yoga lessons"—and thereby bastardizing Shrila Prabhupada's entire movement—got its grand boost with the GBC's acceptance and promotion of Radhanatha's The Journey Home. Not only does this vile Diary of Guru Aparadha glorify Mayavadis — many of whom would rank among the world's sleaziest characters — but the book has a Brijabasi print of the Supreme Lord Shri Gopal Krishna sitting next to a mountain of skulls! 

[PADA: Yes, well if we look at the thousands of victims of the GBC process, including various children who were abused, and thus the thousands whose spiritual lives were -- detoured, ruined if not killed off by GBC's gurus' oppressive mis-managing, that is a de facto mountain of skulls. Maybe there is some subtle hidden message in using that type of photo? 

Notice that the article says it is -- the entire ISKCON -- that is corrupt, yes -- and that includes Danavir because he has been a big pillar supporter of the regime and its overall policies, and / or various corrupt people within the regime.]

In the history of the aparadhas, this ranks as supreme—and it is going on under your leadership since you are (or at least have in the past been) a GBC member.** Does the GBC no longer care for the teachings of the Founder-Acharya? Do your fellow GBC members no longer fear the terrible reactions that they will have to face by promoting such abhorrent pseudo-literature? Does the GBC only concern itself with policing others and not themselves? Is this not a first class symptom of hypocrisy?

Since you have wisely spoken out against cheating the public with gymnastic exercises that pretend to lead to self-realization and enlightenment, I am addressing these issues to you. We are absolutely positive that Lord Shri Krishna and Lord Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu have taken note of your dedication to Their message, the selfsame teachings that have been delivered by Their pure devotee representative Shrila Prabhupada.

As things stand today when the Movement is teeter-tottering on oblivion, you still need to boldly speak out against the sorry dilemma created by your fellow GBC member Radhanath. His book The Journey Home sits at the very root of ISKCON's Great Yoga Deception, now prevalent in centers all over the world.

First of all, Radhanath's memoirs from his Richard Slavin days as a vagabond Mayavadi collector should never have been written by a presumed member of the fourth order. Vedic culture absolutely proscribes that any sannyasis should dally like that while reflecting on his past supposed glories. Therefore I would like to put before Your Holiness how it is that your GBC has allowed the wool to be pulled over the eyes of millions of devotees worldwide through the publication of a Mayavadi-oriented book that glorifies one deviate impersonalist after another?

If Your Holiness has been following this series aimed at dismantling the asphyxiating influence of The Journey Home on the Hare Krishna Movement—and I hope that we can count you and your fellow GBC members among our readers — then you have seen the evidence regarding the duplicitous, dishonest and double-dealing characters of bogus yogis whose photographs appear alongside our worshipful Shrila Prabhupada, Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura and Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. 

Three or more of these duplicate sadhus—whose likenesses appear in The Journey Home—were accused by dozens of ladies of sexual molestation and rape. Another is an avowed bi-sexual promoter of brain-destroying intoxicants. Has the GBC lost its collective intelligence and become deaf, dumb and blind to the state of ISKCON? What other explanation can there be when they promote demons in the dress of yogis?

As devotees we are avowed to avoid the association of non-devotee demons—except when as preachers we take the risk of giving them Krishna consciousness. Do your fellow GBC members think that everything is hunky-dory with a book that pictures Lord Krishna alongside a pile of skulls, and which glorifies rascals who demand money in exchange for the right to "become God?" Only a non-devotee Mayavadi could think for a nano-second that such villainous reprobates should be featured in a book sold worldwide in Prabhupada's ISKCON temples — a society wherein (and forgive me for reminding you once again) you have sat on the GBC. 

Since as members of ISKCON we are avowed to eschew the association of such non-devotee demons, your job should be either to straighten out the lot of your fellow GBC members, or just flat-out walk away. If they refuse to retract this offensive book, then, hey, these people do not deserve your association, and you should not contaminate yourself with theirs.

Over the years we have observed your struggles in developing your Rupanuga Vedic College. How much have your fellow GBC members supported your efforts? Probably that figure is an amount equal to the goal of the Dalai Lama—zero. You have written a wonderful and enthusing book about Shrila Prabhupada-lila entitled His Divine Grace. How many of your fellow GBC members have considered translating this book into a dozen languages instead of the much-translated swill contained in The Journey Home?

Rupanuga Vedic College, Kansas City, Kansas

Your Guru Maharaja often said that that a diamond merchant gets maybe one customer a week while the seller of imitation diamonds attracts thousands. You have worked hard to give the genuine message of Shrila Prabhupada to the devotees, yet only a few are taking part. It appears that the GBC is intent on attracting watered-down personalities and is content to let the Hare Krishna ship with the real McCoy on board simply drift rudderless out to sea.

Cheap preaching has compromised the entire character of the Hare Krishna Movement and ISKCON has morphed into a shadowy reflection of itself. As Prabhupada stated, demons are at work on the inside of the Krishna consciousness society. These satanic yet charismatic entities feel more content serving and doing the bidding of their lord Kali than serving Lord Shri Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Your spiritual master—His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder-Acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness—said it best when he issued the following instructions in a letter to Satswarupa Goswami on November 5, 1972,

"Advancement in Krishna Consciousness is not the result of material conditions. I shall not expect to find some perfect circumstances of occupational duty which will cause me to be automatically Krishna conscious, no. So why shall I think that by changing this, going here or there, doing something else—why shall I expect that I will become happy by adjusting material conditions in this way? They have not understood. Real attitude of devotional service is, whether I am here or there, whether I am doing this or that, it doesn't matter, just give me little prasada, little service, or if you make me big leader, that's all right—that is devotee, satisfied to serve Krishna in any circumstances of life. 

"So try to impress this fact, we should kill this restless spirit. Enthusiasm and patience, these things required. If under changing conditions, I lose my enthusiasm, if I cannot endure the difficulties of my duty, therefore I go away—then how I can be leader? These things must be understood. Otherwise the whole thing will fall."

The conclusion is that a leader must lead, and leading means that the leader must unequivocally follow his leader. When this programme—the disciplic order—becomes corrupted by changes and transgressions, then the battle for Krishna consciousness has been lost and Maya emerges as the winner. And that is the current situation with the poison now spreading in the form of The Journey Home.

You must save the movement, but if you cannot do that, then you must at least save yourself. Again, I entreat Your Holiness: Either reform your fellow GBC members or walk away from their association and leave them to their own vainglorious fate. You are precious to Shri Guru and Krishna and you do not deserve to go down with a ship that the GBC is willfully sinking.

Thank you very much for reading this. It has been my pleasure to write to you.

Your servant,

Kaliya Mardana dasa Brahmachary

**We find the following on your website, "In 1987 (Danavir Goswami) was elected to ISKCON's thirty-man world Governing Body Commission and authorized as an initiating spiritual master."

[PADA: Yep, the 1986 reformers (even Rocana was in their program at the time) later excommunicated Sulochana, which helped in the murder of Sulochana by demonizing him, then they grabbed a slice of the stolen pie for themselves. Rocana thinks we need to write to the GBC to fix things, he has no idea that bogus gurus cannot generally be fixed, they are most often incorrigible -- and just have to be rejected. 

Its good that Prithu has come forward to say they are minimizing Srila Prabhupada, that means he knows they have been guilty of that all along. Its bad that he has not explained why he has been calling the process of worship of Srila Prabhupada -- useless manure -- up to now? Anyway, the truth is coming out, albeit slowly, just like a little bit of toothpaste coming out of the tube a little bit at a time. ys pd]

Tuesday, July 23, 2019

Prithu Prabhu (Peter Brinkman?) They Think That I Am Dead (and update)

[PADA: Yep, according to various reports, Prithu was another guy eating like a horse, buying expensive personal items for himself etc. when the gurukuli children were being fed rotten oatmeal. Various ex-kulis told me these leaders have been acting like Kim Jong Un of North Korea's empire, they are eating nicely, the peons have to eat grass and moldy un-eatables.] 


Prithu Prabhu told an amazing story last year at Janmashtami in Moscow. He said that he was at that moment in Vrindavan when Srila Prabhupada was leaving this world. And he saw the whole ceremony. All of them are young disciples of Srila Prabhupada, young, with a great deal of horror and secretly looked at everything that was happening then. Srila Prabhupada left the body, and no one knew what would happen next.

And Prthu Prabhu says that when Srila Prabhupad was placed in samadhi, then in that place, exactly in the place where his head was, and he was put in the lotus position, they put a long bamboo pole so that it was clear where to put it, then further samadhi and erect. And then they piled it on top with earth, made a mound. And in the end, the pole was removed, and he saw that this hole led deep into it. The hole, however, quickly fell asleep dry Vrindavan land.

He says that that night after this ceremony, it made a very strong impression on everyone, and that night after the ceremony he had a very vivid dream. He saw Srila Prabhupada's samadhi, the land where his body lies. And he began to approach slowly towards him, and to his surprise he saw that the hole had become large, such. And he began to approach timidly to look there. So? Because, well, I wonder what's going on inside there. He began to look in there, because through this opening one can see Srila Prabhupada there below.

And suddenly he felt that someone was nearby. And he looked around and saw that Srila Prabhupada was standing nearby and was also looking there. That Srila Prabhupada crept on tiptoes and also looks where he is looking there. And Srila Prabhupada is alive, more alive than when he is alive, shining in his spiritual body. Srila Prabhupada looked at him seriously and said, "They think I'm dead."

A person thinks that a spiritual teacher may die. But only a bad student who has not learned anything from his spiritual teacher thinks so. Prthu Prabhu said that the explanation for all the troubles in ISKCON and all the problems in ISKCON in one phrase: “They think I'm dead.” When a person thinks this way, he stops learning. (...)

[PADA: Yes, when we were in Los Angeles -- handing out our documents saying "Srila Prabhupada is the living guru of ISKCON," Prithu violently grabbed a copy from our associate, trying to stop us from distributing these documents. Prithu looked at the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover and he yelled, "What the hell is this sh*t doing here"? (I am an eye witness) 

And he ripped up our magazine into pieces, with the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover, and he stomped on the pieces with his shoes. Now, after he publicly declares that Srila Prabhupada is no more than a piece of sh*t to him, and he rips up an image of Srila Prabhupada and stomps on it with shoes, he suddenly says that the problem is -- minimizing Srila Prabhupada? And he has been among the number one people doing that minimizing? 

And he even says our idea that Srila Prabhupada is living is -- the piece of sh*t idea? Why is this type person allowed to go around speaking in ISKCON centers? Oh, I forgot, they mostly all want our documents ripped up. Its like Jayadvaita swami asking, why in the hell are people chanting Srila Prabhupada's pranams. Birds of the same feather -- flop together, as Sulochan often said. Yep, this is the type of person the GBC wants to have going around lecturing. Told ya! OK true, it is good news however that they are back tracking, albeit slow and piece meal. ys pd]

Monday, July 22, 2019

Charles Manson Exposed: Journey into Madness and Murder

Kirtanananda swami / New Vrndavana USA

American based Foreign correspondent Ivor Davis, delivers a gripping, "I was there" eye witness, inside story about the most notorious murder spree of the 20th century. In "Manson Exposed: A Reporter's Fifty-Year Journey into Madness and Murder," Davis is the brutally honest guide to this true crime horror story.

In this mix of personal memoir, criticism, and investigative journalism, Davis delivers a truly original take on the byzantine case that terrified and mesmerized the nation, including his new conclusion that THE BEATLES DIDN'T MAKE THEM DO IT.

Davis was on the front lines of the story and offers vivid, personal accounts, interviews and hitherto unknown details from the very beginning right up to the death of the blue collar psycho named Charles Manson.

He charts the tragic inside stories not only of the those murdered but of the long list of Collateral Damage victims: the rock star, the Oscar winning director and the entertainment legends, whose lives were also destroyed by Charles Manson and his crackpot acolytes.


PADA: Thanks KW prabhu for sending me this link to the "Manson Exposed" book. Yes, there are many odd similarities to the Manson program and some of these GBC's "guru personality cults" -- like Kirtanananda's. Charles Manson's people thought he was another Jesus, Kirtanananda's people thought he was another Jesus, same process, yikes!

In fact the parallels are not only striking, but frighteningly similar. 

At this point I don't think the GBC's guru's process is as dangerous as it was in 1986, but the idea that some of these GBC's gurus are "pure devotees" (like Jesus) is still being promoted in various ways. And thus there is at least some danger to a certain degree to challenge them. Hence various people still send me stuff saying "do not mention my name, I will face retaliation." 

And we ourselves still get veiled threats from time to time from GBC guru's people -- saying we are "making offenses" and so forth. In fact even Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur's thug Prahlad das admits he is working hand in glove with the molester guru program's goondas -- and he told me he wanted to help them have me offed. Of course Sulochan called these people "boot lickers of the butt busters." As with any dangerous fanatical regime, the first rattle out of the box is -- lets kill some folks! Made from the same mold? Apparently so.  

Even the police cannot figure this out. "They are not authorized to kill a cow, but they are authorized to kill the other Krishnas"? Hee hee! 

And many innocent lives were ruined by the Manson program, and these GBC's people and their goons have ruined many innocent lives as well, its the same process. Yep, as soon as someone says, we should not be worshiping sexual predator deviants -- and / or other fools as Jesus-like messiahs, then their various goondas come out of the wood work to fight for their main cause in life. And according to this guy's Manson cult account, some of the Manson crowd never really have had remorse. And its almost the same thing we sometimes experience, far and few between folks actually apologize for supporting all this process, or fully admit how, when and where it went off the rails.

So there are maybe a few hold out people that still think they are authorized to use murders or violence to promote their bogus sexual predator's and criminal's "false Jesus" programs. Yep, and they are not too far away from being disciples of Charles Manson, agreed. 

And thus some of our associates around the world also write to tell us how they are being banned, vilified, threatened and so forth, so the personality cult madness is still there to some extent -- but not as virulent as they were previously. Perhaps this is like Srila Prabhupada saying these type people are now "snakes without teeth" -- ok they can make a lot of hissing noise, but they haven't got the bite they had previously.

And yes, for the GBC to take the main helpers, advisors and lieutenants of Kirtanananda and make them the "next wave" of leaders (like Radhanath) looks very corrupt and complicit indeed. You are also correct, the book Monkey On A Stick has a sub-title, "Murder, Madness and the Hare Krishnas," and this book talks about "madness and murder." Yep, same identical theme. Anyway, there are a lot of parallels, absolutely right. So now you know what we were facing at the time when we challenged their regime. Thanks for the info! Very interesting indeed. ys pd]