Saturday, June 23, 2018

Why child abuse in ISKCON will never stop (anonymous)

[PADA: Child abuse -- is one of a number of abuses, and it another feature of exploiting in general. And the GBC's "guru system" has been proven to have empowered and facilitated that process on many levels by orchestrating the exploiting of: brahmanas, women, children and cows, and / or the vulnerable overall. This devotee writer has no faith that ISKCON can be recovered. Maybe he is right. 

Of course if the actual child abuse process cannot really be stopped fully, then ISKCON will die out all by itself because gradually people will refuse to participate. This is basically what happened in the Gaudiya Matha, people could not tolerate their exploiting and abusive leaders, so their program became nearly an empty ghost town. 

ISKCON certainly cannot be repaired easily in its present state. 

And he furthermore thinks that the GBC's guru's enablers, hangers on, leaders on payroll, assorted cheer leaders, sycophants, and various levels of "rank and file" do NOT have much interest in fixing this mess either. OK there are some sincere people in and around ISKCON, but they have little real powers to change events at this point. 

At the same time, we are making at least some inroads into the ISKCON rank and file gradually, because more and more of them want to emphasize the worship of Srila Prabhupada, and read his original books and so forth. At best, its a reform in slow motion, emphasis on slow. 

Anyway, the slow but steady win in the end. Hopefully, some sort of gradual and genuine reform will be the end result. It certainly does not look very hopeful to many folks at this point, thus there is still an exodus of sincere people out of the institution. At least the good news is -- we snag a few of them here and there into our Prabhupadanuga process. ys pd] 

To PADA @   

Why child abuse in ISKCON will never stop

Hare Krsna,

It is perfectly clear to most readers (or should be), that ISKCON has not functioned as a spiritually valid organization since Srila Prabhupada left. The list of deviations and crimes committed, primarily by its leaders, are extensive. Many such crimes have been well documented. We also know that the Gaudiya Math suffered a similar fate and history.

When the founders of the above-mentioned institutions were present they were able to keep the most dangerous of these deviants from completely compromising their respective institutions. But, after their disappearances, it really became a free for all.

For both these societies, one of the very worst spiritual crimes committed by the misleadership was when the leading demons created the apasiddhantic guru-voting system - where mundane men become authorized 'as good as God' gurus. The Gaudiya Math also had these competing 'God men,' but in a slightly different mundane-acarya format. Same stuff in a different bottle. By 'legislating divinity,' such institutions provide a cover sufficient to fool the general masses and which thereby allow for the leading elites to engage in all sorts of spiritual and material criminal activities. The institution thus becomes a sanctuary for criminals. This behaviour is part and parcel of such modern religious institutions, as confirmed by Srila Bhakltisiddhanta Sarasvati:

"The churches have always proved the staunchest upholders of the grossest form of worldliness from which even the worst of non-ecclesiastical criminals are found to recoil."

(Excerpted from the essay "Putana" printed in the January 1932 edition of The Harmonist, or Sree Sajjanatoshani)

Other primary evidence of spiritually criminal activities in ISKCON include allowing unlimited changes to the Founder-acarya's books and the incorporation of the body of the GBC. That the 'Pledge of Allegiance,' which Srila Prabhupda wrote, has been altered to promote the artificial authority of the GBC over its Founder-acarya, is no surprise. The GBC bylaws are additional evidence of this.

So the GBC have since led Srila Prabhupda's movement into an apasiddhantic slide ever since 1977, and are taking all its ‘members’ along with it. Everyone who considers themselves part of this current unbonafide 'ISKCON,' at any and all levels, is implicated in these crimes to varying degrees. All in all it simply amounts to mass guru aparadha by everyone involved, from the smallest peon to the biggest charlatan.

The systemic and extensive child abuse we have seen and still see in ISKCON, as well as the subsequent cover up and protection of the elite abusers, continues year after year. This is exhibited by the latest of Hryananda's and now Dhira Govinda’s demoniac and "gutless wonder" weak responses.

Unfortunately, 'ISKCON (rank and file) members' are party to these crimes, as they function to prop up and over-glorify these leaders no end. And then one wonders where such demon leaders get their false egos, which in turn encourages them to continue abusing victims of child abuse?

It is from the rank and file themselves.

Sure, these demon leaders may have been possessed of such rampant arrogance and conceit at conception, yet now all ISKCON members engage in the constant over-glorification of these men and women (such as Laxmimoni, Urmila and Malati), which only serves to feed these monsters their unlimited desires for name and fame, profit, adoration and distinction.

The exploitation of children by these men and women and the voting-in-of-guru systems go hand in hand. Fanning the flames of unrestricted false ego in turn creates a lack of empathy and compassion and continued extreme narcissism. These false egos need to be constantly fed, and what (whom) is the necessary fuel to feed these fires? It comes in the form of the weakest and most vulnerable - the children. The easiest of prey. 

And of course, the ISKCON schools produce the primary fodder for these gurus false egos. Laxmimoni was one who helped to serve these children to her God brothers on a platter, as do all other ISKCON educators, intentionally or not. Urmila is another who has operated to funnel children to her God brothers' false egos for years via the ISKCON education system. She is thus only trying to get her payback in the form of guruship herself, what she thinks she is owed by the system.

It is also well-known that the CPO-convicted child abuser, Sri Radhe, Indradyumna's disciple and previous Principal of Sri Anasuya Vidyalaya (what a pretentious name!) Mayapur, is another insane person who used these girls as her personal slaves. Firsthand accounts of the extensive abuse were proven and showed that the school was essentially a feeder school for Indradyumna, who requires a constant stream of young ladies (the younger you get them the better) to join his ‘preaching program’ (read: harem), to satisfy his own lust for mundane enjoyment, those of his lusty male followers and the lusty public. 

That Sri Radhe was an unstable emotional manipulator using young girls for her own purposes was well known to Indradyumna, who happily took these kids as his own disciples in due course. They had thus been well-trained to comply. and became conditioned to being exploited. Sri Radhe was also given that prime posting after having an affair with Bhakti Vidya Purna, the co-creator of that entire bogus evil ‘educational system’ and long time creator/ supervisor of abusive school systems in the holy dham. One can also suppose that Sri Radhe 'jumped the gun' and became a 'defacto guru' prior to going through the proper ISKCON voting channels, and hence part of her slap-down was political. No one likes an upstart!

Like Sri Radhe, Laxmimoni is another rampant false ego individual who was overworshiped. The girls she abused and was engaged to ‘look after’ became disciples of her God brothers. She now just wants what she believes is also her ‘God-given right’ - guruship. Hrdayananda loves her, as he sees that rampant false ego that she possesses, in himself, yet in female form. These types stick together, all bodily differences aside. In fact, ISKCON’s gay gurus have that same narcissism. It is all equal opportunity for narcissists at ISKCON’s top end. No discrimination up there.

ISKCON as it stands will never rid itself of child abuse, simply because it legitimises and incorporates into its entire identity the very thing that creates a sanctuary for child abusers - the 'divine right of kings,' the bogus guru-voting system. Without such a system, children have a better chance of being protected and cared for properly. Yet that is unlikely to happen as 'ISKCON' now is simply an extension of Kali. It’s primary purpose is exploitation of others.

Neither should people ever look to 'improving ISKCON' in the realm of child protection, or in any other area. It is a failed institution and will never be useful again. As Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati further states in his essay:

"The idea of an organised church in an intelligible form, indeed, marks the close of the living spiritual movement. The great ecclesiastical establishments are the dikes and the dams to retain the current that cannot be held by any such contrivances. They, indeed, indicate a desire on the part of the masses to exploit a spiritual movement for their own purpose. They also unmistakably indicate the end of the absolute and unconventional guidance of the bona-fide spiritual teacher. The people of this world understand preventive systems, they have no idea at all of the unprevented positive eternal life. Neither can there be any earthy contrivance for the permanent preservation of the life eternal on this mundane plane on the popular scale.

Those are, therefore, greatly mistaken who are disposed to look forward to the amelioration of the worldly state in any worldly sense from the worldly success of any really spiritual movement. It is these worldly aspirants who become the patrons of the mischievous race of the pseudo-teachers of religion, the Putanas, whose congenial function is to stifle the theistic disposition at the very moment of its suspected appearance. But the real theistic disposition can never be stifled by the efforts of those Putanas. The Putanas have power only over the atheist. It is a thankless but salutary task which they perform for the benefit of their unwilling victims."

Kali Yuga is an age where the demons are running things, including religious organizations. They will continue to abuse children, if not under the ISKCON banner, then under another similar banner. Those who wish to protect their children and their own spiritual lives, would do well to remove themselves from 'ISKCON,' as well as all from those who claim to be its 'members.' All such similar fake spiritual institutions should be strictly avoided for one's spiritual health.

Friday, June 22, 2018

Krishna Describes Kali Yuga

Krishna describes kaliyuga

Once the four Pandavas (except Yudhishthira who was not present) asked Krishna:

"What is Kaliyuga and what will happen during Kaliyuga?"

Krishna smiled and said "Let me demonstrate to you, the situation of Kaliyuga." He took a bow and four arrows and shot them in four directions and ordered the four Pandavas to go and bring them back.

Each of the four Pandavas went in the four different directions to search for the arrows.

When Arjuna picked an arrow, he heard a very sweet voice. He turned around and saw a cuckoo singing in a spellbinding voice but was also eating flesh of a live rabbit which was in great pain. Arjuna was very surprised to see such a gory act by such a divine bird he left the place immediately.

Bhima picked arrow from a place, where five wells were situated. The four wells were surrounding a single well. The four wells were overflowing with very sweet water as if they were not able to hold water and surprisingly the well in the middle of these four overflowing wells was completely empty. Bhima was also puzzled at this sight.

Nakula was returning to the place after picking up the arrow. He stopped at a place where a cow was about to give birth. After giving birth the cow started licking the calf but continued to lick it even after the calf was clean. With great difficulty people were able to separate them and by that time the calf was injured badly. Nakula was puzzled by the behaviour of such a calm animal.

Sahadeva picked arrow which fell near a mountain and saw a big boulder falling. The boulder was crushing the rocks and big trees on its way down, but the same boulder was stopped by a small plant. Sahadeva was also amazed at this sight.
All the Pandavas asked the meaning of these incidents. Krishna smiled and started explaining...

"In Kaliyuga, the priests will have very sweet voice and will also have great knowledge but they will exploit devotees the same way cuckoo was doing with rabbit.

In Kaliyuga poor will live among rich, those rich will have enormous amount of wealth which will actually overflow but they will not offer a single penny to the poor same as the four wells didn't have a single drop of water for the empty well.

In Kaliyuga parents will love their children so much that their love will actually spoil them and will destroy their lives similar to the love shown by cow to her newborn calf.

In Kaliyuga people will fall in terms of character like the boulder from the mountain and they will not be stopped by anyone at the end only the name of God will be able to hold them from doom like the little plant held the boulder from further fall."

Hanuman Croatia on "Radhanath's Nose Pressing Yoga"

Hanuman is upset we are not promoting his GBC guru parampara

Hanuman das: This morning, we received amazing quote on Facebook from one of my Facebook friends.

Madhudvisa: And in other Russian… But these countries are all under Communist rule. It is very difficult in those countries.

Prabhupada: Not difficult. Nothing is difficult. For the time being it is difficult but in due course of time it will be very easy. Now who knew that in Europe and America or all over the world, Hare Krsna will go on? Bon Maharaja left the field; others left the field. You see? Other swamis came. They talked all nonsense, yoga, this and that, nose pressing, eyes pressing — all finished. Now Hare Krsna is going on. Now people, the nose-presser and eyes-presser, they are no more important. Is it not? Eh? Now our men go and challenge these rascals. And in New York they did it, huh?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: And they are afraid of our troops. (laughter) They are afraid.
Madhudvisa: One of those nose-pressers, he once was speaking, and he said, “These Hare Krsna people, they like me very much. They always come to my lectures and they sell all the books, all their books, and then they go away before I start to talk.”
Prabhupada: “You go on pressing your nose. We make our business and go away.” (laughter)
Madhudvisa: He was speaking like that because our men go into the lecture dressed in disguise, plain clothes, and we are going in the audience selling books to everyone. They all get the book, and then, when he begins to speak, then we all turn around and go out.
Prabhupada: Yes, they did it in the Guru Maharaji’s camp also. Hundreds of Bhagavad-gita As It Is sold.
Satsvarupa: Thousands.
Prabhupada: Thousands. So we take advantage of this meeting. We do our business and go away. And they have no books. They have simply that pressing of nose, that’s all, nothing else. They have no philosophy, nothing of the sort. What they will write? They have no philosophy. Simply cheat that “Press your nose; you get Bhagavan.” That’s all. And people think, “It is so easy. Why shall I go to Bhaktivedanta Swami? Let me go to this Guru Maharaja.”They think like that. 

And some of our men, feeling too much pressure, they go away. But here there is nothing cheap, that simply by pressing nose and eyes and you become God. Don’t make compromise. This principle must be observed. Then you’ll remain strong. As soon as you make compromise, then it is finished. Drdha-vratah. Find out this verse. Drdha-vratah. What is that? Bhajante mam drdha-vratah. Namasyantas ca mam…
Caru: Bhajante mam drdha-vratah.
Prabhupada: Ah, ah. That drdha-vratah must be there, strong determination. Then it will go on. The scientists will come to learn and the psychiatrists will come to learn if you keep drdha-vratah. And as soon as you make compromise, then nobody will care for.” (Room Conversation with Devotees — July 2, 1974, Melbourne)


As you can see, Prabhupada wanted us to “challenge these rascals”, but I don’t see in ISKCON many brave Prabhupada’s followers who are publicly challenging this nonsense. You think you will earn Prabhupada’s mercy by hiding under your wife’s sari? Oh, yea, I forgot, we must be “humble”. Radhanath baba nose presser is “senior, pure devotee” and we should “be humble” and let him convert Prabhupada’s society into nose pressing society.

And all the senior members of ISKCON, who are supposed to protect ISKCON against deviants such as Radhanath baba, they are writing papers and articles about Astasakhi lila. Well, when any of Krishna’s confidential gopis come to this material world, they blast mayavadis and nose-pressers so badly that they constantly live in fear. One of such gopis was Bhaktisiddhanatha Sarasvati.

So, whoever thinks that they will earn their entrance into spiritual world by staying silent, while Sacinandana baba and his girlfriend are misleading people, while Radhanath baba is making money by telling people to press their nose, I have to tell you, you will never get Prabhupada’s mercy by staying silent while his movement is being destroyed. As Prabhupada said in this quote, “As soon as you make compromise, then it is finished.” And that is exactly what is happening to ISKCON.

[PADA: We should not promote and work with those who have compromised with the GBC's bogus guru parampara, such as Radhanath swami, and his "co-voted in gurus" like Bhakti Vikas swami. Ooops! Except Hanuman Croatia, Kim Moller, Ajit Krishna, Torben types tell us -- we need to cooperate and work with at least some of the GBC's "voted in" gurus, because not all of them are bogus. One of them such as BVKS, who was voted in by the rest of them, is bona fide? 

So we should challenge the rascals and their idea that gurus are "voted in" by debauchees and deviants, except when it comes to BVKS, we have to promote him and worship him, never mind he is voted into the illicit sex guru's process? Never mind various ex-kulis have had to chastise BVKS for compromising with the abuse regime, and his even apologizing and defending that regime? 

Wait a minute? 

Radhanath and his pals, ok BVKS.

You mean to say Bhakti Vikas swami is bona fide? And the reason BVKS is bona fide is: BVKS is the "2/3 show of hands voted in" "sannyasa disciple" (hand maiden) of Jayapataka swami, the founder father of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineage? How is this bona fide? BVKS is voted into the illicit sex acharya's guru lineage, and this means he is bona fide? 

*** Lately (see links below) we have seen that more and more of the ex-kulis are complaining that BVKS is defending the GBC's child abuser's regime. OK, but he has done that all along since 1978? This simply means -- more folks are waking up. Why would we want to promote this regime, or any of its members -- such as BVKS?

*** And then again BVKS has supported that conditioned souls (like Jayapataka) can be diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus is doing. Isn't that making his God brothers fall down, get sick, suffer and die?

*** And then again there is a lot of evidence BVKS is good pals with Radhanath swami, and as such -- BVKS RETRACTED and APOLOGIZED his attack on Radhanath's crazy book with photos of "yoga masters." Why do we have to apologize for criticizing the yoga master's hodge podge program?  

[PADA: No, devotees should not vote for politicians, but they should vote for illicit sex acharyas?

Anyway! Now we have the Hanuman types saying we Prabhupada-centered devotees are bogus for promoting worshiping of Srila Prabhupada. Yep, no one should offer grace and baptize people on behalf of Jesus. We should offer grace and baptize people on behalf of -- BVKS and his illicit sex guru's process? Its not going to make a whole lot of converts? If Jayapataka and his pals are not able to absorb sins without dire results, why would BVKS be qualified to absorb sins either? And if they are not qualified to be diksha gurus, if for no other reason than they compromised with the sexual predator guru parampara, then why should we promote these people -- and "compromise with rascals" as Hanuman says?] 


NOTE: BVKS followers are saying the the other GBC gurus are bogus, and they should be criticized. Why is BVKS saying the guru needs to be chastised?

NOTE: Yes, thanks to BVKS defending deviants in the regime, some folks think he is the person who needs to be removed even before some of the other deviants (and so on) ...

ys pd

Nirjala Ekadasi (Video)

Yamaraja das departs 06/22/18

A great devotee has departed, Yamaraja Dasa.
He passed on today June 22, during brahma muhurta while hearing Srila Prabhupada chanting japa.
Yamaraja das was my connection all these years to the BTG. We were real brothers with the same mission for Prabhupada's movement, to bring the wonderful aesthetic side of our culture to the public's awareness. He did this all himself as BTG's layout designer / editor / photographer and above all one very loyal, dedicated, totally focused Krishna bhakta who served Srila Prabhupada's mission his whole devotional life without distraction. 

1970-71- I was the first devotee to speak with him on the street corner in Portland Oregon where he would sit there selling, I think it was the Scribe- anti-establishment paper, not sure though, with his long hair and humble hippy clothes he would listen to our kirtans; I believe we gave him the 1968 original Gita, I would bring him prasadam, talk the philosophy with him, invite him to the temple, and all of us encouraged him to join us, and the rest is his blessed history. 

We later in '72 -'73 met up again in Brooklyn and worked for the books in the same building at Tiffany place with that whole dedicated crew. A real devotee trooper! A very dear and special soul to Srila Prabhupada and Radha and Krishna. (PADA: who is the author?)

Wednesday, June 20, 2018

Srimad Bhagavatam - 01 (Video narration)

The "Rascal Editors" Conversation (Vidura Mahatma das)

[PADA Yes, the Purujit version is simply not going to be accepted by any more than a teeny cult, that's all it is. Never mind he has no BBT licence to produce his version, so it could not be mass distributed in any event. ys pd]

Vidura Mahatma Das, 

Dear prabhus,

I'm afraid Purujit and a few others have not properly read the Rascal Editors conversation. Perhaps Purujit already had an idea in his head that he wants to edit Srila Prabhupada's books for some personal recognition, and that is why he wasn't able to grasp the actual line of logic in the conversation. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I think that's really what must have happened. 

When a person has no ulterior motive whatsoever, they will usually be able to interpret evidence as it is. Otherwise, there is a great risk of faulty conclusions, as is the case with Purujit, unfortunately. One gentleman has said in this thread of discussion that, in the Rascal Editors conversation, Srila Prabhupada says to "re-edit my books to the original way."

This is one example of how one comes to a faulty conclusion: by not reading properly. What Srila Prabhupada actually says in the conversation is:

"The next printing should be again to the original way." (June 22, 1977)

Maybe the gentleman simply heard from Purujit and didn't bother to read the text, as opposed to reading the text but lying to others about what was really said. That would be the benefit of the doubt.

Srila Prabhupada did not say to do any RE-EDITING. He didn't say anything about any MANUSCRIPT. He simply said that the NEXT PRINTING should be TO the original way. This means to the original way IN WHICH IT WAS PRINTED. A MANUSCRIPT isn't printed. How can the next printing be to the original way in which it WASN'T printed?

Remember, the entire conversation is about Srila Prabhupada's already printed editions of his books being edited more. Srila Prabhupada is NOT complaining about the first editions or earlier authorized editions of books, they are complaining about editions that had been printed AFTER those last authorized editions.

The 1972 printed edition of the Gita is what Srila Prabhupada authorized. He DID NOT EVER ask any editor to make revisions to that edition, save and except for maybe THREE commonly known errors he specifically requested to be corrected on record.

Can we at least get this conversation straight?

Your servant,

Vidura Mahatma das

SB: Thank you, Prabhu, for explaining this so clearly.

Vidura Mahatma Das: You're welcome prabhu!


Reply To Purujit And Bliss Re. Going Back To The Manuscript

CLD: What is this then, why he has to change this verse? He is totally un-authorised to change books or to take position as a leader. He self initiated himself without any ritvik representative. So he thinks he is qualified.

“Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized master will initiate you by knowledge because he has seen the truth.” (Purujit’s version of Bg verse 4.34

S Dasi: We are all familiar with that famous verse. WHY ADD THE WORD INITIATE??? Lets be Loving, kind, and distribute the ORIGINAL BOOKS AND NOT SPEND TIME CHERRY PICKING and Nitpicking. ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA HARE KRSNA.

CLD: This change he made perfectly suits him, its rascaldom.

[PADA: The conversation is clear, we should use the original books that were already printed at that time.]

VKD: It is pretty clear what Purujit das's intention is. He is just trying to be another "Acarya" to gain some name and fame. It was very clearly revealed by his follower Miguel Ramos Zevallos yesterday. I am sure most of you must have read it too. But I don't seem to be able to find that in the thread now as it appears to have been deleted. He was making so many misquotes to justify Putujit dasa's acceptance of the position of a guru and he claims that it was being done on the order of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Srila Prabhupada.

CJ: I notice that Miguel Ramos Zevallos has gone mysteriously silent.

V Das. An upstart neophyte with little vedic knowledge mustering the audacity to presenting himself as de facto acarya is ludicrous, ridiculous,  presumptuous, offensive, unethical and WASTE OF TIME. He has fallen fallen into the grip of name and fame being completely overwhelmed with the fever of pratistha.
All these actions have been condemned by our acarya as nothing but different manifestations of pratistha---the dangerous upasakha or undesirable creeper of ambitions for cheap reputation, followers, fame and sense gratification. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has cautioned devotees against this treacherous weed.

[PADA: The consensus is, no one should alter the books approved and used by the acharya.]

Tuesday, June 19, 2018

"Bhaktivedanta Swami Marg" Name Saved by BJP India

Disaster Averted!! Iskcon devotees stop the change of road’s name 

‘Bhaktivedanta Swami Marg’ in Vrindavan!

Srutakirti Das: In case you didn’t know the name ‘Bhaktivedanta Swami Marg’, the name of the road to Vrindavan, was almost changed today but due to the quick action of a few devotees it has been stopped.

Disaster Averted!!!! \o/ From Radharaman Das:

I had informed the highest leadership of BJP and they were also shocked and agreed with us that the UP government should not have done this. On 13th June I went to Delhi and met with the high command of the BJP and informed them that if this happens it would be a great injustice and millions of ISKCON devotees will hit the street to protest. The BJP’s high Command immediately arranged an urgent meeting with the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh. 

Yesterday I flew to Lucknow from Delhi and met the Hon’ble Chief Minister of UP Shri Yogi Adityanath Ji in his office.

He was also shocked to know this has happened. He in front of me immediately called the Power Minister of State UP who is also an MLA from Mathura. He chastised him and told him to call the District Magistrate and to inform him to immediately stop the planned removal of plaque with Bhaktivedanta Swami Marg written and to not replace it with Kripalu ji Maharaj’s name.

He told me to tell devotees in Vrindavan to meet the Minister in Mathura and after that he told me to update him. I informed Dharmatma Prabhu and he with Sourav prabhu went and met the minister today morning and the Minister informed that he has already called the District Magistrate and told him to stop the renaming ceremony. Yogi Adityanath has also told the Minister to send back the file to him so that this order is scraped.

Yogi Adityanath glorified Srila Prabhupada and told the Minister how can such a big mistake can happen and how could the road name be changed. He told the minister due to Srila Prabhupada, millions of foreigners are coming to Vrindavan and accepting Krishna Bhakti.

Yogi Adityanath almost gave me over 40 minutes to meet with him and he was glorifying Srila Prabhupada. He personally called the Minister in front of me and chastised him. I invited him to visit Iskcon Vrindavan which he has accepted.
I will like to especially thank Dharmatma Prabhu and Saurav prabhu who were alert and found about this. They arranged the important papers related to this and ran around.

Your servant
Radharaman Das

Letter from Jayapataka Swami on his Health Crisis

[PADA: According to a report at the time -- some years ago -- a devotee dressed as Krishna (from a Krishna play) jumped jumped on to Jayapataka and tried to chop his head off with a large knife. If this is not a warning sign from Krishna that you are doing the wrong thing, what is? As a result, JPS had to get a blood transfusion which he said was contaminated with Hep C. This is now creating an organ failure problem. 

Anyway, he still wants to "give classes" -- ooops, where he is going to tell all of us about the glories of his GBC's "gurus from Vaikuntha parampara" policy -- that God's pure representatives, gurus, acharyas and successors are often debauchees, drunkards, fools, drug addicts, sexual predators, and criminals. He just does not get it, he is preaching the wrong thing and has been his whole post-1978 life. Praying to Krishna won't fix his bogus preaching either, he has to do that himself. 

Its ironic that he needs body parts from a cadaver to continue to exist here. Anyway, good luck, anyone who takes the post of acharya without authority has to go to the planet of Yamaraja, and then be sent to "the most obnoxious regions of the universe." Praying to God won't change that process, its destined to happen no matter what, because these are the stringent laws of God. ys pd]    

Update from HH Jayapataka Swami:

My dear GBC Members,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Homebase: Sridhama Mayapur

Camp: Gleneagles Global Health City, Chennai

By Srila Prabhupada's and the Lord's mercy and with your and all the

devotees prayers, I survived the stroke. Then, they found that when I was

attacked in Madrid Airport by a crazy person in 1989, they had given me a blood transfusion to make up for the lost blood and that contained Hepatitis C virus. They postulated that the virus was from there because when they did the genetic workup of the virus, it was found to be a European strain. 

They only started checking for Hepatitis C in blood donors in 1992. Until the stroke happened, they didn't know that my liver had been attacked by the virus; that's when they found out. In 2014, they gave me a drug regime that had been newly discovered and that killed the Hepatitis C virus but the virus had been slowly destroying my liver since the year 1989 so the damage to the liver had already been done. It was kind of like a silent killer. Now, they say that according to the allopathic school, the only treatment is a liver transplant. Syamasundara Prabhu got one and he is doing alright. Due to the extreme liver damage, my kidneys have also started failing and I now require a simultaneous liver and kidney transplant. Originally, I was told that in three to five years, I should expect to require a transplant. But this time, the doctors gauged that I would need a transplant within three to five months. So then I went to various transplant specialists to see who would do it. Two surgeons in India are very renowned. One refused me saying I was high risk having many other complications. But the other surgeon had me go through all the tests and has agreed to do the operation. He is the best in India and he still goes every two months to England to perform transplants there. He has done over 4,000 transplants. So he is situated in Chennai. That's why I'm presently staying in Chennai. I'm waiting for a cadaver because the surgeon wants that I receive a whole liver; a living donor can only give 60 percent of his or her liver although the liver does grow back in both the donor and recipient. In India, they've passed a law that only blood relatives can donate an organ but that can be overrided by a certain procedure; except for Delhi, none of the states accept that procedure because they're afraid of getting sued. 

My blood type is B+ and I'm number one on the priority list for getting the organs from a cadaver, but nobody knows when the cadaver will show up at the hospital. So things are going down. Before, my kidneys could handle the load but now they can't. Since about 10 days, they've put me on dialysis. So one by one, my organs are collapsing. If I get a B+ cadaver with good organs, then I may leave the critical situation and become normalized. I'm depending fully on Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krsna. I'd like to see the TOVP completed and the TOVP Exhibits manifested, finish the Krsna Caitanya Book, Prabhupada Memoirs (haven't thought of a name yet), help with the Mayapur Masterplan, procure sitting places at holy places on the Navadvipa Parikrama, continue my normal duties (train younger devotees to take my responsibilities where possible), etc. But Krsna is independent and whatever He wants, He will do. Of course, Prabhupada said that prayers make a lot of difference so I appreciate devotees' prayers. Whenever possible, I give a 30 minute class over the internet in the evening/night India Standard Time; it's through Facebook live 

If our internet is strong, maybe I'll also show the same message on Mayapur TV. I hope this finds you all in good health and blissful Krsna Consciousness. Your servant,Jayapataka Swami JPS /smsdb

Monday, June 18, 2018

RE: Purujit's Gita by Vidura Mahatma das


JUNE 18, 2018

Image: Purujit’s edited e-book version of the Bhagavad-gita As It Is

Recently a devotee named Purujit das has appeared in a video interview defending his new undertaking to edit some of Srila Prabhupada’s books. The interview, which reads on their website “Purujit Prabhu Smashes PADA´s Book Editing Objections”, is a 45-minute response to PADA, who challenged this maverick editing venture of Purujit’s. In this article, key excerpts of Purujit’s reply to PADA are addressed in connection with the legitimacy behind making further edits to Srila Prabhupada’s books.

"BLISS is happy to announce on their website their editing of Srila Prabhuapda’s books, which so far includes the Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Sri Isopanisad, and Easy Journey To Other Planets. Their website reads:

​the e-books of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

edited by Purujit Dasa according to the original manuscripts, transcripts, lectures and articles."

Here is an example of the changes Purujit has made to the Gita:

“Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized master will initiate you by knowledge because he has seen the truth.” (Purujit’s version of Bg verse 4.34)


The 1972 version is as follows:

Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.


Purujit has also added an awkward sentence to Srila Prabhupada’s purport to that verse:

“Neither by self study of the book of knowledge can help one to progress in spiritual life.” (Purujit)

[PADA: Hee hee, right, we need a living guide like the GBC, or Purujit?]

Throughout this article, key excerpts of Purujit’s words from the video will be indented with the author’s comments interspersed.

Purujit: Unfortunately, devotees in general are not aware that Prabhupada’s books have been edited and this is what Prabhupada wanted. Just like Hayagriva was the first editor and Jayadvaita was also the editor in Prabhupada’s times. Prabhupada gave a raw manuscript or transcriptions or dictation tapes and this raw material was edited so these editors would add their own style, their own form of how to present what Prabhupada is saying. So it was a cooperation between Prabhupada and his editors and they’ve done a lot of changes to the original material. So the real question is which changes are wrong and which changes are OK, are fine. This is the real controversy, not whether Srila Prabhupada’s words are changed or not.

The BBT and Jayadvaita like to say that they are going back to the “original manuscript” to make changes to Srila Prabhupada’s books. Not only is such a course of action completely unauthorized, but the “original manuscript” they claim to be using may not even be the final manuscript that was worked on by Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva, and then presented to MacMillan for printing. Practically speaking, what Jayadvaita (and now Purujit) are using is more like one of the draft manuscripts leading up to the final manuscript that was presented to MacMillan for printing, the latter said to have been nearly identical to the 1972 version of the Gita we use today. For the sake of discussion, though, we will use the general term “manuscript” in this article.

So which changes from the manuscript are wrong and which changes are OK? This controversy can be (and has been) easily resolved: any changes made from any version of a manuscript which resulted in the printed edition of a book personally accepted or approved of by Srila Prabhupada are authorized changes.

Purijit: So the thing is, yes Prabhupada actually himself said that the early editors, they have done changes which he did not approve and this was recorded in the Rascal Editors conversation June 22, 1977. There Prabhupada actually confirms that he was not completely aware of the editing process. He just gave them the empowerment and he had faith that they were going to edit nicely.

Purujit appears to be exaggerating the scope of the Racal Editors conversation. He assumes that Srila Prabhupada was referring to changes made directly from a manuscript. However, the changes being discussed in that conversation pertained to the earlier printed editions of his books. In the Rascal Editors conversation, these printed editions themselves were being edited further, and this is what Srila Prabhupada had an issue with.

[PADA: Yep, Purujit is flipping pieces of history around randomly. The order to print the original way means, to print the way the early editions were ALREADY done and were ALREADY approved.]

Prabhupāda: The nonsense, they are… They are correcting my trans… Rascal. […]

Prabhupāda: Now here is “O sages,” and the word meaning is “of the munis.” Just see.

In this conversation, it was not any changes made from a manuscript that Srila Prabhupada had a problem with. Rather, it was changes made to an already printed version of the Srimad Bhagavatam. Srila Prabhupada had it translated one way, and some rascal editor whimsically changed that translation. Therefore, we cannot use this as evidence that Srila Prabhupada took issue with changes made from a manuscript. That the scope of the Rascal Editors conversation pertained to changes made to already printed versions of his books is further evidenced by the following excerpt from the same conversation.

Yaśodā-nandana: In the Gurukula we were teaching Īśopaniṣad class to the children. So we took original, maybe first edition… [break] …Prabhupāda and the words which the recent edition of the Press is wrong. Many changes were brought. They were trying to make better English, but sometimes, to make better English, I think they were making philosophical mistakes also. There is no so much need of making so much better English. Your English is sufficient. It is very clear, very simple. We have caught over 125 changes. They’re changing so many things. We are wondering if this is necessary. I will show you today. I have kept the book.

Prabhupāda: I know that these rascals are doing. What can be done? How they can be relied on?

Again we see that the issue is not with changes made from a manuscript but changes made to an already printed edition of a book, in this case, the first edition of Īśopaniṣad.

Prabhupāda: … Write to Satsvarūpa that “This is the position. They are doing anything and everything at their whim.” The next printing should be again to the original way.

From understanding the actual context of this conversation, we can see that by “the next printing should be again to the original way” Srila Prabhupada is referring to an actual printed edition – not to a manuscript; He considers the earlier printed editions to be the original way. Therefore, when we speak of “original” in this context we refer to the original printing/edition, just as Srila Prabhupada had.

Purujit: Some devotees say that Prabhupada was supervising the editing very minutely, every single word. This is false propaganda. It’s not true. That’s why Prabhupada actually approved editors, because he was just so busy preaching that he could not possibly go over it again…

Whether Srila Prabhupada read every single word or not does not matter. What we are concerned with is the fact that Srila Prabhupada authorized those original printings. It is not our business to question the validity of Srila Prabhupada’s approval of an edition of a book by way of speculating on whether he knew of or read each and every word in it. Srila Prabhupada approved of and blessed the books.

Purujit: The original Bhagavad-gita is the one with the cattle-raising, with the errors. So as soon as you change even a little thing, then you’re entering the realm of non-original or your input and so on.

Yes, the 1972 edition of the Gita has “cattle-raising.” But Srila Prabhupada specifically requests that to be corrected:

Prabhupāda: They are not cattle raising, that was… Cow protection. It has to be corrected. It is go-rakṣya, go. (Room Conversation—July 4, 1975, Chicago)

The issue is over unauthorized changes, not authorized changes. Srila Prabhupada’s order is for the next printing to be again in the original way – obviously save and except any specific changes requested by Srila Prabhupada such as the one above to the Gita.

Purujit: If you compare with the manuscript, the original manuscript, six chapters personally typed by Prabhupada himself, how can we question the authenticity of this document? Then you see that actually it is Hayagriva who has done all these changes, not Jayadvaita. Jayadvaita is bringing it just back to the manuscript.

But where does Srila Prabhupada order for the next printing to be done directly from a manuscript by any editor? Srila Prabhupada orders the next printing to be done in the original way in which it was printed, as has already been shown from the Rascal Editors conversation. And since in the Rascal Editors conversation Srila Prabhupada and his disciples were discussing the editing of all printed editions of his books by numerous “rascal editors”, the instruction by Srila Prabhupada “the next printing should be again to the original way” should be applied on the same scale.

Purujit: Why should we read something that has been changed by Hayagriva? I mean Hayagriva was approved by Prabhupada, he worked with Prabhupada, that’s fine but that doesn’t make him a pure devotee without any mistakes.

That is the nature of a manuscript: it gets changed. Srila Prabhupada deputed editors specifically to make changes to transcripts or manuscripts for the final printing. All this talk of Hayagriva changing things is useless because that was his specific task assigned by Srila Prabhupada. In the case of the Gita, it was the 1972 edition which he approved of, save and except any corrections he requested.

Purujit: I personally have nothing against Jayadvaita’s editing or his understanding or this and that. This is just propaganda. If you have a problem with Jayadvaita, let’s put it aside.
Yes, Purujit is using Jayadvaita’s same arguments to justify changing Srila Prabhupada’s books, and now we’ve dealt with these arguments once again on their own merit.

Purujit: These devotees, they say original way means to the first printing. But it just doesn’t make any sense because that’s the first thing Prabhupada is complaining about: about the first edition. So how can Prabhupada say print it back to the original way, exactly how it was changed in the first place, print the changed version? It doesn’t make any sense. …Original means it originates with Srila Prabhupada. Hayagriva or any editor is not the origin of the writings.

Purujit seems to have completely misunderstood the actual conversation which he is referring to. As demonstrated already in this article, in the Rascal Editors conversation, Srila Prabhupada is referring to an already printed edition, not a manuscript. Srila Prabhupada is not complaining about the first edition, he is complaining about changes made to those first editions/printings. Srila Prabhupada approved of these final works and therefore they are attributed to him as the author. This is how the publishing world works. They are the originally authorized final works of Srila Prabhupada. That is what original means.

[PADA: Right, Purujit is flipping the history pieces around in part because, he cannot understand they nuances of English language usage. Now he wants to edit the English? Worse, he never asked us what was the actual history of the conversations pertaining to this topic?]

Purujit: This is a challenge to all these different people. We challenge: If Prabhupada is in vani, if he is in sound, why can’t he instruct someone like myself to edit his books? What is the difficulty to accept? It means that they don’t have faith in Prabhupada.

Because Srila Prabhupada already gave the order for the next printings to be done in the original way. There’s no need for his books to be edited. We have such faith in Srila Prabhupada that we accept his order as is. If we didn’t have faith, we might disregard that order and attempt to make a new edition/printing.

[PADA: Yep, what can't Srila Prabhupada make me the new guru of the jagat? Or the new editor of his books? Or a person who can re-write the history of the book changes conversations? And we do not have faith if we do not accept these new authorities? How many times has this argument been used? Sorry, it does not defeat what we said, and what Vidura Mahatma confirms are the real tone, tenor and intent of the book changes conversations. ys pd] 

Related articles and resources:

Purujit’s book editing project

PADA’s reply to Purujit’s book editing project

Purujit’s reply to PADA

Rascal Editors Conversation

The so-called manuscript

Jayadvaita undoes Prabhupada’s work on Gita Manuscript

Madhudvisa dasa re ISKCON original manuscript scam

Hayagriva spent hours every day with Srila Prabhupada going over every verse

BBT’s response to manuscript scam allegations

Photo: Srila Prabhupada honoring his 1972 edition of Bhagavad-gita As It Is

The Divine Leelas of Srila Gaurahari Dasa Avadhoot! (OK maybe)

PADA: Recently, a younger woman was asked if she wanted to join the "Srila Gaurahari Dasa Avadhoot" sangha for "ecstatic realizations of Krishna." She said, I am not interested in having a "touchy feely" session with a bunch of old people who belong in an old folks home! Hee hee! 

Now before we judge things too harshly here, is Gaurahari das fully to blame for all this? Well! Yes and no, the real root problem is -- that the ISKCON GBC creates an atmosphere of deviation and faithlessness, causing people to simply lose faith in any process of any authority, and this paves the way for independent maverick activity (like this one). Anarchy! Same things happened in the post-1936 Gaudiya Matha, people were declaring themselves to be the real successors -- and so on. "Self-appointed" authorities.

That is also why Tripurari swami, Pancadravida swami, Dheera Krishna swami, and a host of others, ran off to do their own independent thing from ISKCON. So now Gaura Hari is doing his own independent thing as well, because for starters, there is no real standard of checks and balances within the ISKCON Krishna society, and that makes other people decide to "free for all" on their own -- everywhere else. It opens the floodgates for all sorts of independent action.

At the same time, Gaurahari ought to know better, that what he is doing is deviation. Gaurahari is however right on one point, the GBC system has "drained the nectar" out of the Krishna religion. They have created a sort of "voted in caste guru monopoly," which is fighting over manpower, money and assets. No juice left in the dried mango skin. Agreed. Anyway, this is very sad. Mahanidhi swami, and so many others, have also drifted off into their own program to "get the nectar," but they have gone to the wrong sources to get that nectar as well. Basically, there are a lot of sahajiya deviations going on here, its that simple.    

Not so much a process conducted by the previous acharyas?

Feet kissing. Is this the way to preach? 
Can I get someone to lick my toes over here?
Hee hee!

Do not ever touch my wife! (Good advice from at least someone here).
This is how Jayatirtha got into trouble!

Its all love, and crying, jeepers gimme a kleenex already!
Warm and fuzzy feeling ki jaya!

Men kissing men, sheesh, this is what we have in San Francisco already!
Please don't try that on me, it won't end well! Hah hah!

Men touching the women. OK, it looks like Rajneesh style.
OSHO revisited?

So! We like the analysis of the younger woman -- who rejected these people. She says -- she is not interested in sitting in the laps of a bunch of old men who belong in the old folks home. Hah hah! At the same time, we agree, there is not much nectar left in the formal ISKCON process. So what to do? Well, we can do a lot of things, but concocting our own way forward is not going to ultimately help things. We need to at least TRY follow the footprints and examples of the acharyas, and this is not something they would approve of. 

At the same time, just like this young woman is feeling, their program is overall turning off a lot of people. Its making the Krishna religion look more than a little kooky and foolish, again! So! We wish them well, as Srila Prabhupada says -- the sahajiyas are on some sort road to Krishna, and he says -- maybe their sahajiya crying will eventually become real crying for Krishna. 

Yet! Srila Prabhupada also gives stern warnings against sahajiya tendencies producing ill effects in the next life. Or even, as we can see already, this can produce ill effects in this life -- if we consider Jayatritha was decapitated because a follower was convinced JT was having connection to a married woman.  

In short, their deviations are "creating troubles for the sincere devotees" says Rupa Goswami. Thus, these folks may find their road to Krishna is a bit lengthy and bumpy, because Krishna does not approve of people creating problems for His sincere devotees. 

ys pd    

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Sunday, June 17, 2018

Help Needed for Mahadevi Dasi Riggan

[PADA: Yep, generally when the GBC's guru type folks have a health problem, they get the best doctors in the land. When the peons have a health problem, they are on their own? This guru thing was largely and economic war against the God brothers and sisters by a few elite leaders. Kick out the mass of rank and file and take over the money and assets. Gaudiya Matha pt. 2. "Follow the money" and the whole thing can be figured out easily. I am not sure if this address below for sending money works or not, someone might confirm this to PADA. ys pd]


... A plea for an elderly Godsister Mahadevi Dasi Riggan who is now passing her last years in Vrindavana and Puri.

I had a personal message yesterday from our respected Vaishnavi sister Mahadevi Dasi Riggan who spent 40 years on sankirtan, collecting Laksmi to support Srila Prabhupad's movement in various ways, giving all of it without a thought for herself. Now in her elder years, she lives in Vrindavan and because there is nothing set up to support devotees financially at this period in their lives, she is forced to beg from her spiritual family for basic health maintenance.

As you'll see in her message to me, she originally posted the request publicly, then took it down and chose to send individual messages instead. I hope she will be alright with me reposting it publicly, but it is so important I am doing it with the intent that we will, as her spiritual family, come together to help her at this very important time in life. And I pray that Amburish Prabhu and all the other devotees who are prosperous will see the importance as well, and share their wealth with her and the other elders who have served in Srila Prabhupad's mission for so long.

Here is the letter from sister Mahadevi Dasi. Please open your hearts and let Krishna direct you what to do.

"It's sad that so many of us who collected hundreds and thousands of dollars for Prabhupada's Mission are forced to beg for medical expenses in our senior years, but I was raised as a warrior, and am trying to be useful to our Prabhupada, somehow or other.

I'm so sorry for being such an idiot. After posting an appeal for Laksmi regarding my heart and breathing treatments here in Puri, I realized it was better to delete that public post and send out personal appeals.

Doing these beg-a-thons for my various medical needs from time to time is so humiliating. Then I see the lepers lined up with their begging bowls and wonder why I'm crying. Look at their situation! I suppose it's all they know. My begging bowl is almost empty and I get freaked out when I have to beg for Laksmi for medical treatments and self care.

It seems Social Security is not keeping up with the rising costs of living. My total income is 30,000 rupees a month. Half of that is rent, electric and maintenance on the flat in Vrndavana. When I think of the years of collecting so much Laksmi for ISKCON, I get nostalgic about that younger body, so energetic and fired up!

(note from me... what a great example of Vaishnava humility in action... it would be so easy to complain and focus on all the negatives here, but just see the humble, positive attitude!)

Now I'm on my own getting old, with diseases and ultimately death. Although we are never alone, it just feels like it when I need funds to take care of special needs. Right now my heart still goes into a pain spasm (from a diagnosed blocked artery) if I walk too fast, and my breathing has been irregular for months.

I don't want to do the allopathic suggestion of operation as I feel the improvement from Ayurvedic suggestions and treatments. I just want to keep doing what I'm doing, which seems to be working.

The air in Vrndavana is heavily congested and difficult to breathe during hot season. As you know, the air in Puri is very different. Slow Japa walking with the sacred Sumudra, plus the Ayurvedic treatments have really been helping, but expenses have racked up and I'm down to almost nil again.

Expenses are more now then ten years ago. What used to be 500 rupees is now 1000 rupees. This material body and mind is such a debilitating challenge, yet I'm trying to use it in Prabhupada's service. It's all I know.

If you can give anything to help this fallen dasi, I'd be able to get a few more weeks of steam, heart massage and acupressure treatments, and finish off the blood thinning tonics and strengtheners. That would include my simple living expenses so I can japawalk with the Sumudra everyday and learn how to walk and breathe properly again.

My basic living and medical expenses for 3 weeks in Puri come to around 450 dollars, or 31,000 rupees.

I feel like a failure but we still go on. It's always been about serving as a warrior in Prabhupada's Mission and trying to please Him.

Hoping this meets you healthy and enlivened. If you can spare a donation, please just drop it into Varanasi's PayPal bowl.

BTW, I am also working on my writing project in glorifying Prabhupada for saving a hard core alcoholic and drug addict, my mother, who ultimately died in Vrndavana during Kartik and was cremated on the side of Yamuna.

She literally gave up her vodka and drugs for cauliflower pakoras and the association of devotees who gave her Prabhupada's Love and Kindness. Maybe other addicts will get inspired.

Such is the Divine Grace of our beloved Srila Prabhupada.

Please send me your blessings on that project to finish it.

Thank you for even considering this fool. Your prayers and well wishes are also so much appreciated. Let me know how I can be of some service to you.

Ys, Mahadevi Dasi

(below is Mahadevi's Paypal address if you are moved to help this worthy Vaishnavi. It would be money well placed, and according to what Srila Prabhupad taught us, more pleasing to Krishna than any big temple. Don't we have enough trouble managing the temples we already have? Doesn't it make sense to serve devotees instead? I am also at the age and time in my life where health and finances are a big challenge, so i can relate with everything Mahadevi Dasi says in her humble request for help. She gave her life for bringing Lakshmi to Srila Prabhupad. Doesn't it make good common sense to help her now? I heard Srila Prabhupad say many times... "Krishna consciousness means common sense!"... and what has been shared here is pure common sense.)

Go to and type in the amount.
Since it’s PayPal, it's easy and secure. Don’t have a PayPal account? No worries. Getting one is fast and free at

Jananivasa and Pankajanghri / Dr. Frankenstein's Helpmates?

PADA: Thanks H dasa for sending me a photo of  "HG Jananivasa prabhu ji and HG Pankajanghri prabhu ji" and telling PADA how much their valuable service "sends a message of how to be steady in serving Krishna despite all difficulties." And "whatever else is wrong with Mayapura ISKCON, at least these two brothers show us how dedicated service can be done there." Ooops, except, aren't they serving the illicit sex acharya's program, and one of its main founder fathers, Jayapataka swami? And wouldn't that make them co-opted help mates of "the troubles"? We agree, there are many "difficulties," ok fine, but aren't they the hand maidens of the trouble maker's program?  

In other words -- fine, we have to serve, but what and whom are we serving? We also have to preach, again fine, but what are we preaching? Now when we sometimes see videos of Mayapura, a number of our God brothers are there self-apparently smiling and laughing when Jayapataka enters the temple room, because they are encouraging him to be "the guru of Mayapura." 

And they are often proud that Jayapataka has so many disciples, sometimes we hear he has as many as 20,0000, others say 30,000, yet others say up to 50,000 and etc. And how is that working out for them? How can Jayapataka swami absorb the sins of even one other conditioned soul, much less tens of thousands? And if there are so many disciples, why are many Muslims being employed to do things there, and many other temples have become ghost towns? 

Suppose I say, today I am going to lift one Volkswagen over my head. Sorry, it can't be done with even one Volkswagen, what to speak of me lifting 50,000 Volkswagens over my head? Srila Prabhupada says, we neophytes cannot absorb the sins of others, and if we attempt that artificially, we will HAVE to SUFFER. So from our point of view, HG Jananivasa and Pankajanghri et al. have simply encouraged a conditioned soul like Jayapataka to absorb the sins of other conditioned souls, and just as Srila Prabhupada says they will HAVE to SUFFER because they are not qualified to take sins. Unfortunately, the people who promote such false acharyas share in their bad karma, at least according to Sri Isopanisad and other shastra? 

So all of this amounts to "the cheaters and the cheated," i.e. JPS says he can take the sins of others, and he is fooling others into believing that. And Jananivasa and Pankajanghri are the hand maidens of all this cheating? Worse, it appears all these cheer leader people are actually KILLING their God brothers by encouraging them to take sins, which is clearly taking them DOWN.  

One ex-kuli says Jayapataka looks like the creation of Dr. Frankenstein. Hee hee, and if that is the case, aren't Jananivasa and Pankajanghri Dr. Frankenstein's helpmates? Why don't they know by now, their idea of promoting conditioned souls as acharyas has failed? And then again, what kind of consciousness is being promoted as the so-called "acharyas of ISKCON"? Isn't this also the art of Dr. Frankenstein's program?

Sorry, we would have to say that these brothers are not serving Krishna properly. To promote a program that says Krishna's guru parampara of successors are often -- debauchees, drunkards, drug addicts, sexual predators, deviants and criminals is NOT the way to serve Krishna anywhere. And to establish this odious preaching in the holy dham of MAYAPURA is VERY SINFUL. 

To say God's successor acharyas are often debauchees should NOT be preached ANYWHERE, but to have that preaching going on in the HOLY DHAM is most sinful. Imagine if Lord Chaitanya was here, and we went to tell Him, "Yours, the Six Goswamis, Srimate Radharani's, and Sri Krishna's guru succession is populated by fools, drunkards, drug addicts, sexual predators, criminals, and deviants of the worst order"? Would He accept that as "nice preaching"? Of course not! So, why should we as His followers?

Srila Prabhupada says various so-called sahajiyas and babajis go to the HOLY DHAM to establish that pure devotees are often debauchees, and thus they are gliding to hell. He even said these folks are ALREADY residents of Naraka. Thus! We should not be using the ISKCON's premises, especially in the HOLY DHAM, to establish these same deviated ideas? So I am sorry to say, serving the debauchee acharya's process is not serving the actual prescribed program given by the acharyas. It is deviation, and that is being very generous because far worse terms could be used. ys pd