Tuesday, October 6, 2015

Badrinarayan's (Robert Morrill's) Sexual Predator Messiahs

Robert Morrill (Badrinarayana das -- San Diego California).

Who are we and where are we going?"
A Fight for the Soul of ISKCON

A recent paper by H.H. Badrinarayan Swami.


This paper is not meant to bring peace. It is not intended to answer all questions and bring harmony amongst all sides. Rather, its purpose is to spark debate and to ask uncomfortable questions. It is intended to bring to the fore a discussion that has been avoided for too long. The GBC needs to discuss and answer the following questions:

"Is ISKCON meant to present a philosophy only or are we meant to also present an alternative way of life?"

"Is our goal to find a way to fit comfortably into the current flow of the modern world or are we meant to change the world's cultural, social, and economical structures?"

"Are we so eager to gain a seat at the table of established institutions that we are no longer willing to rock the boat or take a challenging position?"

How we answer the questions above will define whether ISKCON succeeds or fails to fulfill the vision of Srila Prabhupada and to address the crying needs of the world. This paper will make the case that if these questions are not answered, if current trends within ISKCON are not addressed, we are already on our way down the path to a slow death of assimilation and irrelevance.

[PADA: Except that ISKCON -- under the guidance of folks like Badrinarayan -- has forced people all over the planet to worship Badri's / GBC's deviant and illicit sex "acharyas." And that has created a mass exodus from ISKCON, never mind Badri's "bad boy messiahs" also generated a major criminal reputation and rotten general public and media opinion of the Krishna religion. Never mind several thousand children were alleged to have been abused or molested under the watch of Badri's program's "management."

After Badri's program crammed the worship of deviants down the throats of billions of people, now he wonders why his religion is crumbling? And Badri recently had Radhanath come to Los Angeles to give sannyasa to Amala Bhakta, just after Radhanath buried a known homosexual and child abuser in a samadhi in Vrndavana. 

The homosexuals in samadhi project?

Badri's program promotes the worship of man to man sex in samadhis in the holy dhama, then they are alarmed that gay marriage is being promoted? Sulochana said that Badri's program is "a semen sucking sampradaya," and now they wonder why gay marriage is being floated in that sampradaya?  

In sum, the Badri program forced ISKCON to be "assimilated" into the siddhanta of something like the sahajiyas, starting around 1978, with their idea that gurus and pure devotees are generally debauchees and in fact -- its quite common for acharyas to be debauchees, deviants, sexual predators, homosexuals, drug addicts criminals and so on and so forth. And anyone who says messiahs / acharyas are not deviants is often -- banned, beaten and sometimes assassinated by the Badri program, or sued in court. 

Badri's paper is an indirect dig at Hrdayananda's "Krishna West" program, but Badri seems to forget that he himself has been perhaps among the number one promoters and cheer leaders of the jack boots process of making guys like Hrdayananda into the acharyas of ISKCON. If ISKCON is suffering from a break down -- due to maverick acharyas -- lets not forget who co-created these maverick acharyas, as people like Badri have been doing ever since 1977. 

And why hasn't the Badri program stopped Hrdayananda NOW from using the name of ISKCON even today? And since Badi's other leaders like Jayadvaita say "why in the hell" are people chanting Jaya Prabhupada, why are JAS's edited books still being sold all over ISKCON? Why doesn't Badri ever fix these types of problems?] 

The simple truth is that in debating and answering the questions above, we are talking about nothing less than defining the soul of ISKCON and its future. Why now?

[PADA: Why now? Because, the crap has officially hit the fan, ISKCON has been degraded, marginalized, bankrupted, run through the mill of bad publicity, and made into a ghost town etc. Even the gurukulis had to sue Badri's program for being treated horribly. And most of the original Srila Prabhupada devotees subsequently left ISKCON where they are now making all sorts of obscene and odious jokes about the state of Badri's malefic acharyas. 

In short, Badri's acharyas are a laughing stock to the mass of devotees, to the mass of general public, to the media, to law enforcement, to the Gaudiya Matha, yes -- just about everyone thinks Badi's messiahs are hokey and false. If not, they are afraid of Badi's messiahs thinking them as dangerous criminals, or sexual predators, or persons who are basically demons who are gliding to hell. 

Badi has spent the bulk of his life making sure that people all over the planet think Krishna's guru successors are criminals, sexual predator and rascals, so he has made the mass of people reject the religion wholesale, and he will have to answer for doing that in the higher court of the higher authorities. The higher authorities will say, "You are the guy who says Krishna's successors are debauchees, criminals, sexual predators, homosexuals, drug addicts, and so forth, well we have been awaiting you to come to our court."] 

This paper was born out of the debates over female diksha gurus, women's roles in ISKCON, and "Krishna West". One may ask: "How do they connect?" Picture throwing a rock into a pond; from the point of impact concentric circles will radiate out. The largest circle, the one on the outer rim, will include all the other smaller circles. This paper's premise is that by answering the questions above, we will then have created the template, the means of measure, by which to address these other important issues.

The discussions about female diksha gurus, women's role in ISKCON, and the controversy surrounding "Krishna West" are actually not independent concerns. They all swirl around and rest upon the same debate:

"What is the vision for ISKCON as a society? What are we meant to present to the world—a philosophy only or a positive example of an alternative social model—and if the latter, then what does that model look like?

[PADA: Good, as soon as Badri said that we all have to worship his illicit sex messiahs in order to attain God, he created a false model of religion for the world to see. How many people in the world agree with Badri that in order to attain God, we need to worship Badri's illicit sex with men, women and children as our messiahs project?]  

Proxy wars

[PADA: Speaking of proxy wars the children of ISKCON, were used by the Badri program as their proxies and pawns. The children had to worship Badri's illicit sex program and they had no means of escaping since, they were children. Badri mis-used these children as his proxies in order to establish his idea that we need to worship his illicit sex messiahs. That means Badri is, at the very least, guilty of criminal corruption of the morals of children, by using them as his proxies to establish his illicit sex pooja program.] 

What we have now, because we have failed to discuss the questions above, is a set of bush fires and proxy wars. For example, some devotees are motivated to push for female diksha gurus because they believe doing so will then establish the precedent that gender is not a factor in the consideration of roles in a Krishna conscious society. In other words, the effort to reach the goal does not rest entirely on the individual issue itself but also on the opportunity to accomplish a type of social engineering by the achievement of that goal. However, this underlying objective, to achieve a social engineering goal, is rarely if ever mentioned.

[PADA: Right, Badri's program social engineered that small children had to worship illicit sex as their messiahs, and the result is that Badri's program was sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, and when it came to court, Badri's program pleaded "no contest" because they were guilty of orchestrating this bogus social engineered program against children, and no contest means, they were basically admitting guilt.]

Another example is the debate over whether or not ISKCON should make a public statement about homosexuality and gay marriages. One side presents that it is a clear issue, Srila Prabhupada's statements on the matter are consistent, and it is an opportunity for ISKCON to take a moral stand. Others argue that we will alienate some people, we will lose support in the academic and political world, and does ISKCON really want to court controversy? Again, the determining question is "What is our vision and what is ISKCON's goal?" Is ISKCON intended to carve out a space as a unique spiritual alternative or to instead hew to a course that wins it favor with the established powers that be?

[PADA: What amazes PADA is that many of the senior devotees, take for example Rupanuga, Balavanta, Hansadutta and similar others, did they not know from the late 1960s - early 1970s that Kirtanananda had been living in a homosexual household on Mott Street, and that he had challenged Srila Prabhupada on so many issues? Why did they apparently go along with the appointment of Kirtanananda as the messiah of ISKCON? And why didn't Rupanga help me and Sulochana, and instead, he propped up the GBC's who excommunicated us (and wanted to orchestrate killing us?) and they propped up Kirtanananda and reinstated Bhavananda as their messiah? And why has Badri's program recently buried Kirtanananda in a samadhi in Vrndavana? Badri's program thinks that persons engaged in male to male sex are in samadhi with God?]

Without answering the above questions we are groping forward in the dark with no compass or map. We are building a conflicted, ad hoc social structure and set of standards. We have no cohesive, unifying vision. The result is a patch-work social framework that at times is at war with itself. As the saying goes "A house divided against itself cannot stand".

[PADA: But you divided the house as soon as you said we have to worship your illicit sex messiahs?]

Srila Prabhupada took bold stands. Srila Prabhupada took bolds stands. While merciful and kind, he was not one to accommodate or appease. Numerous times he asked a guest or interviewer "Should I flatter you or tell you the truth?" He did not back away from a confrontation.

Srila Prabhupada told the long-haired, drug-addled, free-loving hippies to shave up and follow the four regulative principles. He told newspaper reporters in 1968 that we did not go to the moon. His tour across the USA in the summer of 1975 (declared by Time magazine—"the year of the woman") was one combative interview after another with Srila Prabhupada not backing up an inch.

[PADA: Oh great so Badri's gurus are from the long-haired, drug addled, free loving hippie stock. Why did he make these folks into his and ISKCON's messiahs knowing they are not qualified? Satsvarupa writes in his Journals that he is "the guru of pills" and yet Badri's program has his writings sold all over the planet?]

Compare Srila Prabhupada's bold and surrendered style to the following excerpts from a draft of a proposed ISKCON statement on homosexuality (the impetus for the effort being the US Supreme Court's recent approval of gay marriages). "Within different cultures, traditions and countries around the globe there are deep divides over the issues of sexuality, sexual orientation, and in recent years, same sex marriage. Within the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) there are also differing opinions how to consider these topics…"

"ISKCON commits to respect and protect basic freedoms for all people regardless of race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, age, religion, sexual orientation or other designations..."

"Question: What about monogamous same sex relations?"

"Some Vaishnavas advise these relationships help calm the mind and senses and thus enhance spiritual practice; others argue it has the opposite affect…"

Given its vacillation and ambiguity, one is inclined to ask "Was this style of wording lifted out of a European Union bureaucratic policy statement?" When did ISKCON become the purveyor of such bromides? We hear the claim that by softening our edge, by charting a course more in line with the climate of the times, ISKCON will grow exponentially. For the sake of honest analysis, one is obliged to ask: "How is that working out for the Anglican Church?"

[PADA: The GBC is not ambiguous at all? They openly state that God's successors, acharyas and messiahs are often caught "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." That has been their publicly stated mantra and siddhanta ever since 1977. So that means, man to man sex occurs in their alleged chain of gurus from God, and that is what Badri's program has said all along. That means the Badri program is promoting the worship of man to man sex, and anyone who objects is removed -- by folks like Badri, Now Badri wonders why man to man sex is being glorified, its because he is promoting the worship of man to man sex as his messiahs.]  

Instead of glowing success, they are floundering. They have split in two and in the debates over the issues of the day they are seen as irrelevant. An ISKCON similarly bleached of courage, conviction, and confidence in our tradition will not be attractive—certainly not to the young, the idealists, and those out to change the world for the better—and aren't those exactly the type of people we want and need to attract?

The picture painted by some that ISKCON has become stagnant and calcified, that it is locked into an Indian-ethnic flavor and therefore needs "a movement within the movement" to revive its preaching spirit, is both unfair and inaccurate. It ignores the many creative outreach initiatives found throughout the ISKCON world—initiatives that are not just theory but are producing tangible and encouraging results.

We have Devamrita Maharaj's "Krishna Lounge" and "modern Vedic ashram" models being duplicated around the ISKCON world with much success.

[PADA: Devamrita's people are preaching Veganism and they are saying we do not need to eat milk products. A number of his people have been paying large sums of money to attend the "Sterling" self-help program. Devamrita was also Kirtanananda's stooge for many years, and he was getting people to dress in monk robes etc. He is having success at merging ISKCON into all sorts of off shoot deviations and has been doing that for years. He has never accounted for why he supported New Vrndavana when all the deviations were going on there etc. At the same time, many devotees in Australia wonder why Devamrita has supported Prabhavishnu being an acharya, when it was known for years he was deviating. And lets not forget the Devamrita program buried Kirtanananda in a samadhi, they still glorify their man to man sex program as their messiahs?] 

There is the BASE college outreach concept developed in India and that has now spread to such far-flung locations as Burma, Bangladesh, and Chicago. Gainesville, Florida has its own home-grown and very successful model. Many devotees are using the booming interest in yoga as a bridge to mantra meditation and study of the Bhagavad Gita.

The above examples are mentioned in particular because they involve adjusting the traditional ISKCON format and presentation to meet the conditioned souls in their own "comfort zones". The devotees involved in the above programs certainly understand the "bridge" concept. At the same time, they are also careful to make sure that the "bridge" flows the right way. "Bridge preaching" is intended for turning non-devotee into devotees — not for stripping away devotional practices to the point that the opposite happens -- those devotees involved wind up looking just like non-devotees.

[PADA: Preaching to devotees that they need to attend the Sterling program is a non-devotee process. The leaders simply are not doing street kirtana and college preaching like Vishnujana used to do, period.]

There are those who present that Srila Prabhupada only said these things to encourage the Indian community to help his movement. However, not a single one of the above statements was made before an Indian audience. Rather, Srila Prabhupada is on a morning walk in New York city, speaking with an American college professor, writing to Tamal Krishna Maharaja (who was stationed in the United States by this time), and speaking to the devotees from around the world gathered for the morning class at the Mayapur Gaura Purnima festival.

One advocate of cultural acclimatization (adjusting ISKCON practices so that they come to practically mirror the local customs) wrote:

"On scriptural grounds, one could question the very concept of an 'original culture', if by that we mean an original ethnicity. I see no reference to one in Shastra."

In response, we have the statements of Lord Brahma, the head of our sampradaya, found in the "Brahma Samhita". There it is clearly stated that Govinda and "the super-excellent station of Krishna, which is known as Gokula" are the apex of realization, the fullest manifestation of the Lord and His personal abode. As confirmed by Lord Brahma, the spiritual revelation of Govinda in Goloka surpasses even the Vaikuntha worlds and the unlimited forms of the Lord revealed there.

We have the statements elsewhere confirming that Krishna is full in Dwaraka, fuller in Mathura, but fullest in Vrindaban.

Thus, that there is a hierarchy of revelation, an ultimate reality, and therefore a corresponding ultimate "culture" as revealed in Goloka, is confirmed. One may then say "OK. But where are the details of that reality and culture spelled out?" We know what Krishna looks like. We know His activities and about His associates. But one could argue that more specific details are not contained in Lord Brahma's revelation.

ISKCON is at a juncture. We stand at a fork in the road. We have a choice to make—do we go down the path towards accommodation (with its hope of greater acceptance and its risk of assimilation) or do we take the path towards presenting Vedic culture as a viable and positive alternative to the current flow of the world?

[PADA: OK Badri's program is supporting a semen sucking sampradaya that buries homosexuals and sexual predators of minors in the holy dham, a process going ever since 1977, now he says we are at a cross roads because some of these same people are now promoting gay marriage? No, we were at the crossroads ALREADY in 1977 and Badri's program chose to take us on the path of worship of his semen sucking pals, and as soon as Badri finds one of his pals buries a known homosexual predator in the holy dham, he invites that person to give sannyasa ceremonies in LA.]   

The world's receptivity to Krishna consciousness, certainly amongst thoughtful people, has never been better.

[PADA: No thoughtful person wants to worship illicit sex with men, women and children.]
Thoughtful people know that something has to give. The societal models of the day are simply not working. Picture for a moment, what if ISKCON was able to put into practice the social programs and preaching strategies Srila Prabhupada has given us? What if we had bountiful farm communities, filled with happy and well-balanced families? What if these farms supplied city temples and Govinda's restaurants with fresh, organic, cruelty-free products? What if we had a top-standard education system?

[PADA: That is another thing, Badri's program destroyed the farms and Varnasrama projects.]

What if we had regional traveling festivals all over the world that set up tents, interactive displays, 3D dome theaters, and presented bhajans, dramas, philosophy, and fantastic prasadam? What if we picked up where Spiritual Sky ended and developed a whole line of quality food and health products?

What if the ISKCON name became synonymous with quality, self-reliance, integrity, wisdom, happiness, and doing good for the world? Think we would still need to put on a hat, coat, and tie to get people to come in our doors? Rather, ISKCON would boom with waves of people eager to hear from us and learn about our life-style.

Sure it will take hard work and focus to reach these goals. It may well take several generations to achieve. But we will never get there if we don't try. And frankly, isn't doing so a better choice than imitating and trying to ingratiate ourselves into societies that are falling apart at the seams all around us?

So what do we do now? The GBC needs to sit together, discuss these issues, and answer these questions. "Who are we and where are we going?" Do we have an alternative social and cultural model to offer to the world? If so, what does it look like? If so, how do we start to implement it? What are the priority projects for ISKCON? What themes do we want to stress? What institutions and projects would we like to see in place in the next three years, five years, and ten years? What are our plans to reach these goals?

The GBC has established the practice of setting aside time at each GBC meeting for "special topics"—key issues that affect the entire Society. Answering these "vision" questions should be taken up by the GBC as an immediate and top priority. Conclusion -- ISKCON, as Srila Prabhupada envisioned and intended it, is the last best hope for the conditioned souls in Kali Yuga. Srila Prabhupada said "My 'disease' is that I cannot think small". He did not intend his Society for small things. Srila Prabhupada has given us the torch: he has given us the ways and means to lead the world out of darkness.

It will be a profound tragedy if, just when the world's need and receptivity are the greatest, we falter and turn from the task. Will we instead settle for lesser achievements of little long-lasting impact?

You may not agree with all of my opinions. I may not agree with all of yours. That is to be expected. But the fervent hope of this paper is that you will agree that we need to have an honest and in-depth discussion of these questions. Nothing less than the soul of ISKCON and the fate of the world are at stake.

[PADA: As long as Badri promotes his semen sucking sampradaya ISKCON will continue to wither on the vine. And the Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai / Sanat / Mukunda / HKC Jaipur folks should also jump off of this Bhakta das / Hari Sauri / Radhanath ship of fools ASAP, this ship is not going anywhere good, we can guarantee that. As someone said recently, these guys are worse than the GBC since they are helping Bhakta das promote their semen sucking sampradaya in the name of Prabhupadanugas. Anyway, this is all good, these folks are all feeling the pressure and our idea will win over time. ys pd]

Monday, October 5, 2015

Children's Cartoon: Krishna and Syamantaka Jewel

[PADA: Some devotees have criticized the program of making cartoons of Krishna leela for children, but from our experience, children will sit and watch them -- when the same children will not sit still otherwise. In other words, children like these cartoons. And in India millions of children watch these on TV, and we would argue, its better for them to watch these than say, Bugs Bunny. I also know some adults who like these cartoons, because they are getting to know these stories. Anyway, if someone else has a better program to present these stories to children, I have not seen it. We did have some puppet shows at the time of Srila Prabhupada, but we have not seen this being done very much as of late. The fact that these are in English is also good since many things from India are Hindi only. Anyway, these are for kids, and we thinks the cartoons are doing a good job of helping them understand some of these leelas. ys pd]  

Harinama in South Africa

[PADA: Yep, everyone likes seeing Harinama, ok almost everyone. We have to give credit to these guys for doing this program, its just unfortunate that many people are not (yet) able to have the pure devotee as their guru despite some of these programs, but the emphasis on Srila Prabhupada is growing, so we are encouraged.  ys pd]

Anger at God is Common


[PADA: Right, that is why we are here in the material world, we are angry with Krishna for not allowing us to be the controllers, proprietors and over lords of Him and His many jagats. Meanwhile, we are not even big enough to be seen in a microscope. At the same time, there are other fools who envy their spiritual master and they want to sit in his seat and take over his mission, same basic issue, they are envious. Srila Prabhupada says, as long as we remain envious of Krishna or His pure devotees, we have to stay here in the material ocean. ys pd]

Sunday, October 4, 2015

New Krishna Theme Park (Mathura)

Radhastami in Varsana pt. II (video)

Hari Sauri To Jayadvaita's Rescue!

[PADA: OK assuming that Srila Prabhupada's books all need to be re-written, why is Hari Sauri giving that job to Jayadvaita swami, who opposes Srila Prabhupada's pranams to be sung at the samsara prayers? And Jayadvaita asks "why in the hell" are people chanting "Jaya Prabhupada"?

Why doesn't Hari Sauri at least find someone who is loyal to Srila Prabhupada to re-write the whole thing? Then again, Srila Prabhupada gave hundreds of classes and lectures from the original books, just the way they are, so -- if the books are good enough for him, then why not for us? When did he say these books will need extensive re-writing? Didn't he say, print the originals? Yep, he did. We had to sue the BBT to get the legal rights to even print the originals.

And if there are a few minor errors that should be fixed, that is one thing, but Jayadvaita is making changes to the tone and tenor, and siddhanta etc., that's WAY beyond normal correcting.

Apart from that, Jayadvaita says in ISKCON his gurus are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and maybe children. Why does Hari Sauri promote this person, at all? Why does Hari Sauri promote the people whose idea is that God's successors are mostly debauchees, drug addicts, if not criminals? Hari Sauri has made a policy of having his deviant and homosexual pals sitting in Vyasa seats being worshiped as good as God, and those of us who protested have been banned, beaten and shot, this was never approved by Srila Prabhupada?

Where does Srila Prabhupada say, henceforward, Hari Sauri should put his debauchee and homosexual pals into Krishna's Vyasa seat? We need to remove Srila Prabhupada as the acharya and replace him with Hari Sauri's debauchee pals? And we should worship these debauchees as good as God, and anyone who disagrees should be banned, beaten and shot? I really cannot find where this order was ever given? Maybe Hari Sauri made all this up? And we need to offer bhogha to persons engaged in illicit sex, where was this order given?

Hari Sauri has changed all of the original ideas of Srila Prabhupada, he says in order to go back home to God, we need to worship his illicit sex messiahs project, and because of that, Hari Sauri caused a huge mass exodus from ISKCON, and not only that, many of his victims were being banned, beaten, molested and killed -- all because they would not worship Hari Sauri's debauchee and homosexual pals as God's messiahs.

Doesn't Hari Sauri know that people who promote the worship of deviants and homosexuals using beatings and murders will have to go to the planet of Yamaraja, where they will be going into the stone rollers, because no one is allowed to orchestrate banning, beating, molesting and killing Vaishnavas? And our only crime is -- we do not want to worship Hari Sauri's illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs project?

Why has Hari Sauri criminalized anyone who does not want to worship his illicit sex messiahs as bogus, and he has orchestrated us being banned, beaten and killed -- when we disagree? And lest we forget, Hari Sauri's program orchestrated mass molesting. We are quite confident Lord Yamaraja has thousands of planets where people who force others worship illicit sex by banning, beating, murders and general violence will be given violence in return, on those planets. In short, why is Hari Sauri still defending his illicit sex messiahs program, which not only changed the books -- but also put deviants into Vyasa seats, and then they banned, beat, molested and killed anyone who stood in their way. Why is this program still being defended, are you guys proud that people were banned, beat, molested, and killed? ys pd      

Saturday, October 3, 2015

Vishnujana Swami (En Espanol?)

A Letter About Grihastha Ashram

[PADA: One thing many people do not seem to realize is that these letters were not being circulated in the ISKCON society after 1977. Satsvarupa Das Goswami said these letters are -- "personal and not meant for the public." 

Of course, that is probably because there are many important instructions about how the GBC should function in these letters, as well as many other important directives and advices, such as this letter below. Sulochana purchased a microfiche copy of the letters by bribing an archives devotee, and he came to Berkeley where we both started to read these letters, and we were both very ecstatic reading through the letters because we found so many nice points being made therein. 

We were then warned by a big GBC guru not to distribute these letters or we would be "dead meat on a hook." So these letters were being suppressed. Anyway, there are many wonderful instructions in these letters, and we thank Sulochana for bringing them to us in 1985. 

Me and Sulochana also immediately began to type up various of these letters, photocopy them, and distribute them. That is perhaps one of the reasons he was assassinated shortly afterwards, on May 22 1986. Anyway, without Sulochana's work we might not have ever seen ANY of these letters so we are all in his gratitude for liberating them. The letter below was made around the time Srila Prabhupada was more and more expressing frustration with the whimsical attitude his ISKCON people seemed to be taking over their marriage vows, sannyasa vows, and so on and so forth. ys pd]     

Letter to: Madhukara, Bombay, 4 January, 1973, 73-01-04, St. Louis

My dear Madhukara,

I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated December 22, 1972, and I have noted the contents with care. For these questions arising between married husband and wife, you are requesting me to leave your wife and take the vanaprastha order of life, for these questions you must consult with and take permission from presidents and GBC. Yes, I know your wife Lilasakti, and I know that she is very serious and advanced disciple. 

But now you are married to her, there is some obligation according to our Krishna consciousness or Vedic system. These things cannot be taken so lightly, otherwise the whole thing will become a farce. Simply get married without considering what is the serious nature of married life, then if there is little disturbance, or if I do not like my wife or my husband, let me go away, everyone else is doing like that. So in this way the whole thing is becoming a farce.

You say that your "association together was hindering your advancement." But Krishna consciousness marriage system should not be taken in that way, that if there is any botheration that means something is hindering my spiritual progress, no. Once it is adopted, the grhastha life, even it may be troublesome at times, it must be fulfilled as my occupational duty. Of course, it is better to remain unmarried, celibate.

But so many women are coming, we cannot reject them. If someone comes to Krishna it is our duty to give them protection. Krishna has informed us in Bhagavad-gita that even women and sudras and others can take refuge in Him. So the problem is there, the women must have a husband to give protection. Of course, if the women can remain unmarried, and if there is suitable arrangement for the temple to protect them, just like in the Christian Church there is nunnery for systematic program of engaging the ladies and protecting them, that is also nice.

But if there is sex desire, then how to control it? Women are normally very lusty, more lusty than men, and they are weaker sex, it is difficult for them to make spiritual advancement without the help of husband. For so many reasons, our women must have husband. That's all right, but if once they have got a husband he goes away so quickly, that will not be very much happy for them.

Now I do not know the situation in your particular case, I am simply giving you the general policy or background understanding. We should never think of our so-called advancement as being conditioned by or dependent upon some set of material circumstances such as marriage, vanaprastha, or this or that. Mature understanding of Krishna consciousness means that whatever condition of life I am in at present, that is Krishna's special mercy upon me, therefore let me take advantage in the best way possible to spread this Krishna consciousness movement and conduct my spiritual master's mission. If I consider my own personal progress or happiness or any other thing personal, that is material consideration.

If there was unhappy adjustment for becoming married, why you got married at all? Whatever is done, is done, that is a fact, but I am only pointing out that once before you did something without proper study of your real responsibility, now you are contemplating again some drastic action in a similar manner. Therefore consider it carefully in this light.

There is one verse from Bhagavad-gita:

yasman nodvijate loko lokan nodvijate ca yah
harsamarsa-bhayodvegair mukto yah sa ca me priyah,

"He for whom no one is put into difficulty and who is not disturbed by anxiety, who is steady in happiness and distress, is very dear to Me." (12.15)

One mistake of judgment often made by the neophyte devotees is that any time there is some disturbance or some difficulty they are considering that the conditions or the external circumstances under which the difficulty took place are the cause of the difficulty itself. That is not the fact. In this material world there is always some difficulty, no matter in this situation or that situation. Therefore simply by changing my status of occupation or my status of life, that will not help anything. Because the real fact is that if there is any difficulty with others, that is my lack of Krishna consciousness, not theirs. Is this clear?

Krishna says that His dearest devotee is one who does not put others into difficulty, in fact, who puts no one other into difficulty.. So try to judge the matter on these points, whether or not you are putting either your wife or yourself into some difficulty.

The right understanding of Bhagavad-gita is Arjuna's understanding. In other words, Arjuna came to the conclusion that he must perform his occupational duty, not as a material obligation, for reasons of wife, family, friends, reputation, professional integrity, like that – no.

Rather he must conduct the functions of his station of life only as a devotional service performed for Krishna. That means that devotional service is what is important, not my occupational duty. But it does not mean that because occupation duty is not the real consideration, that I should give it up and do something else, thinking that devotional service may be carried on under whatever circumstances which I may whimsically decide. Krishna recommended Arjuna to remain as he was, not to disrupt the order of society and go against his own nature just for convenience sake.

Our occupational duty is not arbitrary, that means once we have taken up some field of action, if we are advanced in our understanding, then we shall not change it for another. Rather our devotion is the important factor, so what does it matter what I am doing so long my work and energy are completely devoted to Krishna?

Just like Krishna, He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He has no work, neither He has anything to do, still He comes here to teach us this lesson. He accepts not only His occupational duty as cowherd boy, royal prince, but also He accepts married life, He enters politics, He is philosopher, He is even chariot driver during a great battle, He does not give example of Himself avoiding His occupational duty. So if Krishna Himself is exhibiting by His own conduct what is the perfection of existence, then we should heed such example if we are intelligent.

Even supposing there is wife at home, with children, that does not matter, that is no hindrance to our spiritual life. And once we have accepted these things, occupational duties, we should not lightly give them up. That is the point. Of course, our occupational duty is as preachers of Krishna consciousness. So we must stick to that business under all circumstances, that is the main thing. Therefore married, unmarried, divorced, whatever condition of life, my preaching mission does not depend on these things.

The varnasrama-dharma system is scientifically arranged by Krishna to provide facility for delivering the fallen souls back to home, back to Godhead. And if we make a mockery of this system by whimsically disrupting the order, that we must consider. That will not be a very good example if so many young boys and girls so casually become married and then go away from each other, and the wife is little unhappy, the husband is neglecting her in so many ways, like that if we set this example, then how the thing will go on properly?

Householder life means wife, children, home, these things are understood by everyone, why our devotees have taken it as something different? They simply have some sex desire, get them married, and when the mater does not fulfill their expectations, immediately there is separation -- these things are just like material activities, prostitution. The wife is left without husband, and sometimes there is child to be raised, in so many ways the proposition that you, and some others also, are making becomes distasteful.

We cannot expect that our temples will become places of shelter for so many widows and rejected wives, that will be a great burden and we shall become the laughingstock in the society. There will be unwanted progeny also. And there will be illicit sex life that we are seeing already. And being the weaker sex, women require having a husband who is strong in Krishna consciousness so that they may take advantage and make progress by sticking tightly to his feet. If their husband goes away from them, what will they do? So many instances are already there in our Society, so many frustrated girls and boys.

So I have introduced this marriage system in your Western countries because there is custom of freely intermingling male and female. Therefore marriage required just to engage the boys and girls in devotional service, never mind distinction of living status.. But our marriage system is little different than in your country,

We do not sanction the policy of quick divorce. We are supposed to take husband or wife as eternal companion or assistant in Krishna consciousness service, and there is promise never to separate. Of course if there is any instance of very advanced disciples, married couple, and they have agreed that the husband shall now take sannyasa or renounced order of life, being mutually very happy by that arrangement, then there is ground for such separation.

But even in those cases there is no question of separation, the husband, even he is sannyasa, he must be certain his wife will be taken care of nicely and protected in his absence. Now so many cases are there of unhappiness by the wife who has been abandoned by her husband against her wishes. So how can I sanction such thing?

I want to avoid setting any bad example for future generations; therefore I am so much cautiously considering your request. But if it becomes so easy for me to get married and then leave my wife, under excuse of married life being an impediment to my own spiritual progress, that will not be very good at all. That is misunderstanding of what is advancement in spiritual life.

Occupational duty must be there, either this one or that one, but once I am engaged in something occupational duty, then I should not change that or give it up, that is the worst mistake. Devotional service is not bound up by such designations. Therefore once I have chosen, it is better to stick in that way and develop my devotional attitude into full-blown love of Godhead. That is Arjuna's understanding.

Hoping this meets you in good health,
Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

Vedic Measurements of Time


[PADA: Some of the time concepts of the Vedas are hard to grasp. Some are so small while other concepts are so immense. Srila Prabhupada says that all of us were also existing many billions of years ago, we just cannot remember that time. It does not mean we were not existing and acting billions of years ago, we just forgot. ys pd]

ISKCON Disciple Course

You purchased it, too bad!


PADA: Where Anuttama and Jayadvaita will come and teach people that Lord Krishna's gurus, successors and acharyas are: -- voted in, voted out, suspended for deviations, monitored for illicit behavior, going to drug counselling, censured, removed, excommunicated etc. And they do not chant their rounds because they have carpal tunnel disorder etc., that is --when their "living links to God" are not debauchees, drug addicts and criminals. Meanwhile Prithu is out there preaching that ISKCON's gurus like Krishna West pada are "apa-siddhanta" -- but Krishna West pada was reinstated back anyway!

As Jayadvaita himself told me, getting a guru in ISKCON is like buying a used car, "buyer beware" -- because NONE of the cars in Jayadvaita's anointed used car guru store are being checked for problems before they are being sold. Jayadvaita simply crams his unchecked and uncertified messiahs down your throat, and if your guru happens to be going to Patala loka, too bad, you were foolish enough to accept a bad guru from Anuttama and Jayadvaita.

Yep, you were stupid enough to have accepted their anointed gurus in the first place. If you buy a used car from these guys and if it starts on fire, its your fault for being so stupid as to have purchased anything from these cheaters. I like that, if I am printing counterfeit money in my basement, and I get caught, I can tell the judge its not my fault, because people were so stupid they accepted my counterfeit money. Good excuse as any!

It never seems to occur to these people that used car salesmen, or any company with a buyer beware policy, is hated and not trusted by the mass of public. Is this how these guys are trying to turn millions of people away from Krishna, by saying Krishna's gurus are a "buyer beware" used car sales program? ys pd    

Thursday, October 1, 2015

October Vaishnava Calendar

Saturday October 3, 2015
Srila Prabhupada’s arrival in the USA

Thursday October 8, 2015
Indira Mahadvadashi Ekadasi

Tuesday October 20, 2015
Durga Puja

Thursday October 22, 2015
Ramacandra Vijayotsava

October 22, 2015
Appearance Day of Sri Madhvacharya

Friday October 23, 2015
Pasankusa Mahadvadashi Ekadasi

Saturday October 24, 2015
Disappearance Day of Srila Raghunatha Dasa Goswami

October 24, 2015
Disappearance Day of Srila Raghunatha Bhatta Goswami

October 24, 2015
Disappearance Day of Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Goswami

Tuesday October 27, 2015
Sri Krsna Saradiya Rasayatra

October 31
Disappearance of Narottama Das

Oregon Shooter Targeted Christians


PADA: Hmmm, its Kali Yuga in case no one noticed. ys pd 

The Prince and the Beautiful Girl

Like A River -- Jahnavi Harrison (video)