Tuesday, June 28, 2016

Sacinandana Swami / Ramesh Baba (Update)



Fugitive Video at Large

BY: HANUMAN DAS

Dear Prahladanada Swami,

please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

(full letter with all videos and photos can be seen here)

After we had Ramesh follower Brajraj Sharan visiting Croatia for a preaching tour, that was in February 2016, there was no reaction on your side, at least not publicly. Then, to counteract this Ramesh infiltration in ISKCON, at the end of April, I published my video about Ramesh baba and Sacinandana Swami, after which I was banned.

Since then, video was watched more than 200 times by devotees in Croatia, and over 1200 times globally. Also, my website which covers this incident was visited from Croatia over 450 times in last two weeks. So, this pretty much means that majority of devotees in Croatia saw that video.

Does this indicate to you as GBC for Croatia, that you should publish some kind of statement regarding this incident? I guess, if you want to remain silent, devotees will take my video as only source of information on this issue.

After you failed to act on initial Ramesh infiltration, then you banned me because of my video, it looks like you and Croatian management are actually protecting Ramesh. And your silence on this issue is also quite interesting.

You and the ISKCON Zagreb temple board lost the battle, you were not able to hide secret Sacinandana Ramesh society. So, maybe now is that time to stop acting as if nothing happened and give public statement about Ramesh baba. I guess devotees in Croatia would like to know if Ramesh baba is bonafide or he is sahajiya as I claim in my video. Most notably, there should be practical advice regarding Ramesh baba which should be produced by you as the GBC for Croatia. It should answer questions such as:

1. Can I put picture of Ramesh baba in my bedroom, or is it better to keep it in the kitchen?

2. What happens to next devotee who says that Sacinandana Swami is involved up to his neck with Ramesh baba? Does he get banned like me or what?

3. When the new unmarried girls come to the temple, can we organize Ramesh dance every Sunday, or we must wait until you come to Zagreb?

4. Is Sacinandana Swami right when he takes intimate association of Ramesh baba as shown in my video?

I personally would like to know answers to these questions. What would be Srila Prabhupada's stance on this issue? If you will not give me statement on Ramesh baba as ISKCON representative, based on all correspondence with you so far, I have following evidence:

* that you were informed about Brajraj Sharan 2016 tour in Croatia and you did nothing about it.

* that you are aware of the video I made, and you also aware that I am banned because of it, and you support this decision. (Gestapo tactics of protecting Ramesh baba)

* you are also aware that ISKCON Croatia didn't publish any statement on Ramesh baba and by failing to act, you are actually damaging Srila Prabhupada's legacy by introducing sahajiyas into his movement.

Also, there is another question which popped into my mind, what is svarupa of Ramesh baba, is he organizing the dance in spiritual world also? Is he a good friend of Srila Prabhupada in spiritual world, because I see here in material world, you are allowing Ramesh baba and Sacinandana Swami to take Prabhupada's followers to the higher realms of Radha bhakti, so probably they are well connected. Judging by his dance, he is manjari or gopi in the spiritual world:

Also, I would like to know if Gour Govinda SNS will get some kind of reward for inviting Brajraj Sharan (Ramesh follower) to Croatia at the begging of 2016. Same does for Madayanti dd SNS, who organized whole tour, you are GBC in Bosnia too.

As you learn from previous experience with secretary issue, the longer you ignore my letters, the more evidence I gather on your negligence and the bigger pressure I create, and then at the end, you call me offender and you want me to apologize. So, please give public statement about Ramesh baba now, so that I don't have to increase public pressure, devotees become squeaky when I turn on my pressure cooker.

your servant,
Hanuman das

Monday, June 27, 2016

Lord Jagannath Festival Vijaywada


New Hare Krishna Flash Mob Kirtan Planned

YAY! 

We created history with first ever Hare Krishna flash mob in 2015. We are planning something next month. Of course, its a surprise. If anyone is interested to join please come on the 26th of June, 10:30am at the Open Air Theatre stage, ISKCON Bangalore.

Come, have a blast in chanting and dancing! Also, share these details with people who are interested. For more information call 7676776688 This is what we did last year...


Sunday, June 26, 2016

To the GBC: Help! Is My Guru a Deviant?


Why not worship the actual guru?  

To The GBC: Help! Is My Guru a Deviant?

BY: VRINDAVANA CHANDRA DAS


Respected GBC Member / Maharaja, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I recently become aware about the Resolution published by ISKCON GBC regarding the ban on H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami's book, Women: Masters or Mothers?

I am a disciple of Maharaja and after seeing the Resolution I am perturbed about my spiritual situation as to what I am supposed to do henceforth. Thus I am writing this letter and seeking a reply.

[PADA: Good luck, this has been a big problem all along since 1977: (A) The GBC appoints gurus; (B) Then they say the guru they appointed is not authorized -- or his writings are not authorized; (C) Then his followers wonder -- is my guru still a bona fide guru or not?; and (D) The GBC muddles along not making any clear resolution to the issue. 

This is the result of their idea that God's successor gurus are "managed by a committee." The REAL reason they cannot make a clear resolution that if their guru is not authorized, that would open up a giant can of worms of more and more questions, for example -- "Why did the GBC appoint an unqualified person to be their guru in the first place"? So they just skate along hoping no one will notice the falsity and hypocrisy here.] 

The GBC is the ultimate managerial authority of ISKCON set up by Srila Prabhupada. I respect and accept its authority as devotees therein give direction to the movement as per Srila Prabhupada's teachings. The GBC includes the top cadre of our society involving senior disciples and grand-disciples of Srila Prabhupada who work hard and make strategies to spread the sankirtan movement of Lord Caitanya.

On the other side, I have taken shelter of Srila Prabhupada's sannyasi disciple H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami, who I have chosen to be my spiritual guide. As any disciple in ISKCON would, I want genuine spiritual guidance from someone who represents Srila Prabhupada in toto. Srila Prabhupada often said that a guru should be a transparent-via-medium to the parampara.

[PADA: Sounds great, of course Bhakti Vikas Swami is voted in as guru by the same people who reinstated sex with taxi drivers as their acharya. Does that sound like a stellar "certification"? "I was certified as the next messiah, by the same people who certified sex with taxi drivers - pada as their messiah." Really?]

For example, Srila Prabhupada writes in the purport to BG 4.34:

"The Lord therefore advises us to approach a bona fide spiritual master in the line of disciplic succession from the Lord Himself. No one can be a bona fide spiritual master without following this principle of disciplic succession. The Lord is the original spiritual master, and a person in the disciplic succession can convey the message of the Lord as it is to his disciple. No one can be spiritually realized by manufacturing his own process, as is the fashion of the foolish pretenders."

Srila Prabhupada also writes further in the purport that one should not follow blindly. Therefore as a disciple my duty is also to be cautious to see that the guidance that I receive from my guru is in line with guru-sadhu-sastra. More alertness is required especially in the present times where there are already many known cases within ISKCON where gurus have become victims of maya, either in the form of philosophical deviation or sensual fall-down.

[PADA: Oh here we go again, the GBC certifies people as their gurus, who are prone to sensual and philosophical deviations. This begs the question, why are the GBC certifying persons who are prone to maya (kanistha adhikary devotees) as their acharyas? A person who is prone to the influence of maya is a kanistha adhikary, who is not qualified to be a diksha guru.]  
The GBC has put in their Resolution that ISKCON does not endorse the content of the book. It is also mentioned therein that the book is causing misunderstanding of Srila Prabhupada's instruction, alienation and polarization of many devotees. It has potential to create even more disruptions to many aspects of ISKCON's preaching work in the future.

[PADA: Hee hee, well there you go! We do not even have to say the GBC's gurus are not authorized, the GBC itself admits their gurus are not authorized. People keep complaining to us, oh boo hoo PADA is saying the GBC's gurus are not authorized! 

Sometimes, maybe so! 

Most of the time its the GBC who says their gurus are not authorized, and we are simply agreeing with them. They said the same stuff about Jayatirtha, Harikesha, Hansadutta, Kirtanananda, Ramesvara and others, they are bogus, they are creating polarizing ideas, they are disrupting things and so on. And now they are saying that same complaint about another one of their gurus. They never get to the root issue, they are certifying the wrong people as their gurus.]
  
I am thankful to the GBC that they have taken immediate steps for the benefit of the wider Vaisnavas society. It is clear from the above words that the direction given in the book is not the way that the GBC wants devotees to trend. The GBC also doesn't want to incorporate teachings of the book into ISKCON's preaching work.

Having read this in the Resolution I have now become seriously doubtful whether I should be taking further guidance from my guru. He has been trying to convince and push disciples to take up varnasrama and follow Vedic culture for many years via books, lectures and other ways. Is he polarizing and alienating us away from Srila Prabhupada? 

If so, I would not want to further put my spiritual life at risk under him. The human form of life is very important. I am a full-time brahmachari and would not want to waste my rare opportunity or get misdirected and not achieve the ultimate goal of life.

Hence it becomes very important for me (and probably for all my godbrothers too) to clearly know in what way Bhakti Vikasa Swami has deviated from Srila Prabhupada's instructions. Specifically, what is in the book that the GBC considers to be making misunderstanding of Srila Prabhupada's instructions?

I fully repose my faith in the GBC as per Srila Prabhupada's instruction. However I want to now confirm whether my spiritual master has deviated and only the GBC, being representatives of Srila Prabhupada, can help me to decide. The case here is of philosophical fall-down, which is more dangerous than sensual fall-down.

Hence I request the GBC to point out the exact deviations that Bhakti Vikasa Swami has introduced in his book, Women: Masters or Mothers? When I read the book, I found it very convincing, as in 250 pages of the book there are more than 130 quotes taken directly from Srila Prabhupada's books, and 88 quotes from Srila Prabhupada's lectures, conversations, and letters. Moreover there are more than 50 quotes from the books by other ISKCON devotees. It presented a very convincing case of why ISKCON should head towards adopting the Varnasrama way of life.

However as the GBC deems this as having potential to disrupt the future preaching work, then I would want that they present a clear case based on Srila Prabhupada's teachings how it can do, so that I can follow the GBC and not my Guru Maharaja. However if the GBC fails to do so, then I don't have any other option but to lose my faith in them.

I would want the GBC to come out with an explanation as early as possible as otherwise it can create havoc in spiritual lives of many like myself.

[PADA: This has been going on for decades. The GBC also said Satsvarupa's "Life of Prayer" and "Sanatorium" and other things are bogus, but they still sell his other books all over the society? The GBC has never explained why they are certifying people as gurus without considering if they are qualified or not? 

And this devotee need not wait for any answer, the same questions were asked years ago about other gurus and the GBC's policy is always to waffle and not make any clear decision, because they are hoping no one will ask the real question, "who authorized the GBC to rubber stamp all sorts of kanisthas as gurus -- and then advise, censure, suspend, monitor, remove and / or try to correct them"? And! "If the acharyas need censure and correcting for deviating, how are they acharyas"? ys pd] 

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Saturday, June 25, 2016

Vedic Standards of Chastity and Marriage (Dr. Vrnda Baxi)


The Adi Rasa



By Vrndavanlila Devi Dasi (Dr Vrinda Baxi)

Despite this fast changing world where promiscuity encouraged by the hedonist approach to life is overtaking almost everywhere, India still preserves its age old veneration towards celibacy. The vast majority of girls and boys still remain celibate till their marriage and even post-marriage lead a regulated life. Of course in cities, this ‘conservative’ species are on the brink of extinction, and even when preserved, generally make the person a butt of ridicule and curiosity. However, fortunately in villages it is still a norm.

What is it which still allows the virtue of celibacy still thrive in India? It would be interesting to know this as this would help us build a similar structure elsewhere.

A country’s spiritual culture can be felt in its social structure. A broad system is supported by number of social systems that in turn help realizing the primary objective. The primary Indian philosophy rests on the principles of karma, punar janma (rebirth) and departure for param dhama when one is successfully able to break the cycle of birth-death-rebirth. Even the common people were aware of the two big obstacles on the path of spiritual evolution:

bhogaiśvarya-prasaktānāḿ / tayāpahṛta-cetasām

vyavasāyātmikā buddhiḥ / samādhau na vidhīyate [BG 2:44] 


[In the minds of those who are too attached to sense enjoyment and material opulence, and who are bewildered by such things, the resolute determination for devotional service to the Supreme Lord does not take place.]

Therefore, we had the social structure that encouraged “simple living and high thinking”. Sex desire, identified as the most serious obstacle was thus most cautiously addressed. Its seriousness can be understood if we remind ourselves that every jiva has enjoyed this facility in so many forms (84,00,000 forms at least) in the body of a dog, cat, rabbit etc and still we are foolishly chasing it again – punah carvita carvitam –

śrī-prahrāda uvāca

matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā / mitho ‘bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām

adānta-gobhir viśatāḿ tamisraḿ / punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām [SB 7.5.30] 

[Prahlāda Mahārāja replied: Because of their uncontrolled senses, persons too addicted to materialistic life make progress toward hellish conditions and repeatedly chew that which has already been chewed. Their inclinations toward Kṛṣṇa are never aroused, either by the instructions of others, by their own efforts, or by a combination of both.]

Even an illiterate fool knows that sexual attraction is the most fatal one, containing the seed of one’s material attachment and spiritual suicide it was addressed in several ways in the social set up.

puḿsaḥ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etaḿ / tayor mitho hṛdaya-granthim āhuḥ

ato gṛha-kṣetra-sutāpta-vittair / janasya moho ‘yam ahaḿ mameti [SB 5.5.8] 

[The attraction between male and female is the basic principle of material existence. On the basis of this misconception, which ties together the hearts of the male and female, one becomes attracted to his body, home, property, children, relatives and wealth. In this way one increases life’s illusions and thinks in terms of “I and mine.”]

Celibacy and chastity. A boy is encouraged to remain celibate with its supportive system of encouraging a girl to be chaste. Chastity and celibacy are interdependent virtues. One virtue helps the other to prosper. A girl’s natural attribute of shyness was encouraged in the culture. 

Its not only fortified for her defence, but also supported a brahmacari’s vow to remain a celibate. Even Srila Prabhupada gave the famous example of a sweeper woman who would not enter because of shyness. The men had to get up and make way for her to enter. Her shyness had only made men to get in her honor. 

Bashfulness is considered a woman’s most precious ornament and evokes honor and respect by civilized people. This idea was further effected by subsystems that did not allow free mixing of girls and boys at any stage of life. A girl was always protected, by her father and brother before marriage, by her husband after marriage, and by her son in the absence of her husband. 

Even schooling was done separately. Girls were home schooled in different arts that suited their temperament and their role to support and serve their husbands. Even princess Uttara (ref. Mahabharat) was trained in the art of dancing at the palace itself (by Arjuna in disguise as Brahnalla); even Queen Madri (King Pandu’s wife), Kaikeyi (wife of King Dashrath) were well versed in the art of charioteering during war. 

There is famous instance of Satyabhama driving Krishna’s chariot when He defeated Narakasura. The women were well trained to follow their temperament, but they were never sent outside to schools along with boys or other men. Though now women are encouraged to be financially independent, go out to study, play and work; but earlier it was unimaginable. 

Queen Draupadi, one of very chaste women, had never been beheld even by wind or sun [Mahabharata, Sabha Parva]! Those were the ideals of chastity then! As India is replete with wonderful examples of chaste women, no wonder there have been similar examples of celibate men like Hanuman, Parashuram, Haridas Thakur, the goswamis of Vrindavan, Narada muni, Sukadev Goswami, Bheeshma pitamah and so on.

Education. 

Observance of the vows of celibacy and sense control are so important in defining a person’s intelligence and memory that first phase of a man’s period that of student life was in itself defined as brahmachary, followed by grhastha, vanyaprastha, and sannyasi. Out of the four, three ashrams are based on observance of complete celibacy. The exception, grhastha phase, a man was allowed to mix with women but that too in restriction.

“Srila Prabhupada: One thing is that we teach our boys how to become (brahmacari)-how to live the life of celibacy, how to control their senses. In Vedic culture, marriage generally doesn’t take place until the boy is about twenty-four or twenty-five and the girl is about sixteen or seventeen. And because they are experiencing the spiritual pleasure of Krsna consciousness, they are not simply interested in sex life. So we don’t say “don’t mix with women,” or ,”Stop sex life.” But we regulate everything under the higher principle of Krsna Consciousness. In this way everything goes nicely.”

Further, again there was subsystem of education methodology, curriculum and the facts related to a students’ eligibility for receiving education.

Education had never been a money minting industry, as it has turned now. It was given free for the sake of spreading knowledge of self realization and training a class of realized leaders of the society. No wonder even the kings were rishis and great yogis. Parikshit maharaj, Yudhisthir, Dashrath, Janaka, Sri Ram are just a few to name.

Unlike the modern schooling system where even the transportation buses, classes are air conditioned, giving a glimpse of luxury and comfort; Vedic system had system of gurukulas where life was sans sense gratification and of austerity and surrender. The student served the guru with humility and remained 24/7 under constant observance and training by a qualified teacher or acharya, who was himself a great example of what he preached. Even the Supreme Lord, as a student set the example by serving His guru Sandipani muni just like any other student and doing ‘menial’ work as collecting wood from the forest etc.

“The brahmacaris, or students under the care of a bonafide spiritual master, control the mind by abstaining from sense gratification. A brahmacari hears only words concerning Krishna consciousness; hearing is the basic principle for understanding, and therefore the pure brahmacari engages fully in harer nama kirtanam — chanting and hearing the glories of the Lord. He restrains himself from the vibrations of material sounds, and his hearing is engaged in the transcendental sound vibration of Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna.” 

[Commentary by Srila Prabhupada.BG 4.26]

The educational content was not based on the speculative information furnished by the scientists whose science keeps changing its statements every day and motivated historians who would distort the facts to suit their ulterior motives. Time was regarded precious and every moment was utilized in realizing the higher truth, emphasis was not on body but on soul which is eternal. The curriculum was thus based on eternal truths, the shastras.

Further, there was no room for co-education. Boys lived separately in the gurukula under the able guidance of a qualified acharya, while the girls were educated at home by other senior women of the family and of the village. In Vrindavan, we have the example of Purnaswasi playing the role of mentor to the girls. In a few cases, they were also trained by other qualified teachers, but all at home itself.

The acharya had complete freedom to accept a student based on the latter’s qualification become his student. (So different from modern system where it is only the ability to pay the fat fees that defines their ability to get admitted in a particular school. We have examples of acharayas rejecting a student’s request in the history. For instance, Dronacharya rejected Karna and Ekalavya’s request to be their students. The relationship between the student and the teacher was of mutual love, trust and great reverence. 

Truth was the founding principle. We learn that Karna in his ambition to become the world’s archer wanted to receive training and education from Parasuram and lied to his teacher to learn the art. He claimed himself to be a brahmana, but later when the truth got revealed to Parasuram in a very touching situation, Parasuram did not hesitate to curse Karna. So stringent were the rules of eligibility to education and learning (education for all?). No wonder every man was trained to see every woman other than his own wife as his mother.

Social systems. Celibacy is like going upstream. This desire has been indoctrinated in the jivas through different lakhs and lakhs of bodies; surprisingly still it has not exhausted itself and it is difficult to give it up totally in favor of the Lord for just one life. The Indian social system recognized the great power that Maya devi wielded. 

The structure of social system was therefore designed to be a matrix of wonderful rules that encouraged celibacy and chastity. The institution of child marriage was one of them. In our village in UP it is still prevalent. The children, after a thorough check of the background and other related details of the boy and girl by the family elders, are married at the age of 6 years or so. When they become matured and are appropriately trained and educated (somewhere round 24 years or 25 years) another ceremony called gauna takes place. 

Prior to this ceremony the girl and the boy though married, do not stay together. After the solemnization of this ceremony the girl begins to come to the boy’s house for different festivals and slowly over a period of a year or so she begins to permanently stay at her in-law’s place. Since the two are married at quite a young age, love for each other grows over time and there is no room for anxiety of partner-hunting. There is no concept of divorce or remarriage or even abortion; there is therefore no equivalent for these words in Hindi language.

Since men and women are comparable to butter and fire, they need to not only kept separate but attraction is further minimized by the dressing code. The nakedness of animals was not emulated by men as they were constantly aware of the significance of a human body and its goal. A decent woman was expected to keep her head covered and cover herself nicely. 

Srimati Radharani is the epitome of a woman’s grace, no man had ever held her, even her feet are never visible except on Her appearance day. Laxman, as Sri Ramji’s brother sets the ideal of conduct even with a sister in law. He had never beheld Sita devi’s face and could recognize only her anklets as he had always seen Her feet while touching them for blessings. 

A married woman or girl is immediately recognizable by their sindoor in the parting, red bindi, toe rings, mangal sutra round her neck, and clamor of bangles while draping themselves in a sari (the 6 yard wonder) to avoid confusion. Similarly men covered themselves decently in a dhoti, kurta and angavastram (also known as angoccha).

This purity in thought and action was further cemented by healthy eating habits and varnasrama system. This is why Srila Prabhupada on seeing a few sannyasis failing to keep their vows of celibacy compassionately gave the solution of reviving the institution of daiva varnasrama in the society.

Daiva Varnasrama set up is like a safety net to save the spiritual trapeze artists from falling in the circus of material life. Celibacy is purity in thought and action; and thus a great force, which is so much required. Hare Krishna!

[The article had originally appeared in The Eight Petals. The author can be contacted at: Vrindavanlila.brs@gmail.com]

[PADA: In modern times its hard to even imagine how these high Vedic standards were the process by which the entire society was conducted, because nowadays these standards have been replaced with a pretty liberal situation. Men and women mix pretty freely, and there are so many sexual innuendos in TV, movies, literatures, advertising, and the "not so modest" dressing of people in this age. Nonetheless, its sometimes a good idea to refresh ourselves on what the standards were in previous Vedic times. 

Its pretty clear that most devotees do not hardly fall into meat eating, some fall into intoxication, a few get into gambling, but most of their spin out crashes and failures are in the illicit sex department. Pretty much what creates scandals for a lot of other religious figures, priests and swamis etc. as well. And this attachment is so powerful because it follows us into each and every species we take birth in, so even when we are roaches, toads and flies we are still attached to this anartha.

So its a big problem. From our perspective, one main reason this problem has gotten a lot worse in ISKCON, lets say almost epidemic proportions (with resultant high divorce rates, multiple wife changing and so on) is because most of the leaders themselves are still highly attached to this anartha, and then the mass of devotees worship these people with such anathas, and it makes it harder for the society to get free -- for all parties concerned. That is why we believe that the worship of the actual pure devotees is needed to get free of this, both personally and for the larger ISKCON society. 

And instead of saying gurus fall into these attachments, better to admit these "gurus" are conditioned neophytes who are sometimes falling, and they should not pose as liberated gurus prematurely. And the worship should be re-established as exclusive for the pure devotees -- and not those afflicted by these anarthas. ys pd]    

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Friday, June 24, 2016

New Vrndavana Kulimela 2016

http://iskconnews.org/kulimela-blends-service-fun-family-and-community,5649/?

[PADA: There were a lot of kulis there, and it looked like quite a big group turned up this year. Some of our Prabhupadanugas ex-kids attended and they thought overall it was pretty nice. One kuli complained that electronic dance music was playing until late hours and -- they could not sleep. At the same time, another kuli was complaining, ok we have something nice built for us once a year, then we have to go back to having no program at all for us. Right. Yet another kuli said that although the kirtans were nice, he was feeling a little empty knowing there was no follow up programs for these ex-kids. Seems to be a theme.

There is no ongoing program for the ex-youth, but there is $20,000,000 always on hand to sue the Prabhupada worshipers?

Another ex-kuli recently sent us a news article about a man who had caused his wife to commit suicide due to his abusing her, and he has been charged with her murder. This kuli thinks that the ex-school kids who committed suicide were in fact murdered in a similar way by these GBC's leaders.

This kuli thinks the ex-kids deaths are related to abuse either direct or de facto, and these leaders also should be charged with murder for these ex-kids whose lives were lost, never mind they should be charged with criminal neglect and so on. He thought it was interesting how the karmis could connect abuse, suicide, and how this is a type of murder, but the GBC's leadership cannot figure this out.

I sent him a message saying, you are right on here!

Of course abuse may also make a person dysfunctional, and not be able to work a job and make a living properly, and that should have been compensated for as well, but again, there is only $20 million bucks laying around to hand over to lawyers -- so they can harass anyone who wants to worship Krishna and His pure devotees. Of course, Chitragupta and Lord Yamaraja are keeping track of all this, and proper compensations will be dished out later on at some point.

I do think a number of these ex-kulis are waking up and smelling the coffee so to speak, they realize more and more how they were victimized so that a small clique of elite leaders could live like millionaires while these kids got to eat rotten apples. Another kuli told PADA that Bhakti Vikas swami's writing how women need to surrender to the GBC's "men managers" is so foolish he cannot believe how totally out of touch these folks are.

So there is apparently more sympathy for our idea that these leaders are evil doers and thus we need to focus on Srila Prabhupada more. Anyway, if anyone has something they'd like to report about this event either in personal name or as anonymous, send us your report to: angel108b@yahoo.com. Danke! ys pd]    

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Thursday, June 23, 2016

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Govinda Dasi Smacks Down Bhakti Vikas Swami


I hope you like my new hat!


REPLY BY BHAKTI VIKASA SWAMI to the comment by Her Grace Govinda Dasi:

My dear godsister Govindasi,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada, and all glories to the intimate service that you performed to him so many years ago.

I heard that you were in a serious road accident. That you are posting on facebook indicates that you have got over the worst of it and I am happy for that. I am not on facebook but I have been informed that in a text there you referred to me as "mad." You are of course correct; I am mad at least
inasmuch as I have been given all opportunities by Srila Prabhupada to become Krsna conscious but I have failed to do so.

Unsurprisingly, several disciples of mine, and others who in their kindness have affection for me, have reacted strongly to your comments. Whatever has been said has been said but I suggest and request that this altercation not be further continued.

Of course, serious discussion of the points made in WMM, even from opposing viewpoints, should be welcome. Please bless me that one day I may become mad in love of Krsna.

Hare Krsna.

Your servant,

Bhakti Vikasa Swami

Govinda Dasi's comment:

Yes, I like my dearmost God brother Bhakti Vikas Swami very much but it seems he has lost his good sense. We are not living in the Vedic age, this is Kali. It is absurd to endorse many of the ideas he is promoting, very sad. Sometimes men go mad due to too much austerity. I used to be good friends with him many many years ago in India, when he was traveling, I was also doing my own pilgrimages, but he has lost touch with reality.

The most important thing is to preach as Prabhupada taught. He taught his daughters to work for Krishna and take on responsibilities as much as his sons -- and he never had weird attitudes in dealing with them. Rather, he encouraged and protected us. These radical attitudes have developed due to immaturity and excessive austerity without the sukriti to support it.

Remember, it was Prabhupada who married us all, and then sent us as couples to London, to Hawaii, to Los Angeles, to Florida, etc. to open temples. Not brahmacharis. He knew what was needed for preaching--maybe we should just do as he did instead of making things up?

Now, we have Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard preaching Krishna consciousness to thousands, and even giving Prabhupada's original Gita to the Prime Minister of India, and other big politicians. We have Wai Lana opening up the channels in China for thousands of people to become devotees. Shall we ignore these great women preachers?

Srila Prabhupada often said, "These are not ordinary women, don't treat them as such." Many souls were sent by his Guru Maharaj, to help him start this movement--some were sent in female bodies and some were sent in male bodies. We should see it like that. Not all this ridiculous identification with this body or that body, which is very very temporary. I am so sorry that my dear God brother Bhakti Vikas Swami has somehow become confused in this way. 

Because I like him and respect him very much. Very tragic. It is better to honor all devotees, whether male or female, and encourage them to serve according to their natural propensity. That is what Srila Prabhupada did. That, in my humble opinion, is what we also should do.

[PADA: Govinda dasi is correct. Bhakti Vikas swami is a mad person since he thinks that his promoting the GBC's worship of illicit sex gurus' program -- is going to attract women and families to ISKCON. Nope! Why is that? Because for starters -- Krishna is already advising people from within (as supersoul) to worship only His pure devotees. Do we really think we can fool Krishna as supersoul, and cheat the mass of people into worship of BVKS's contaminated souls gurus? We think Krishna will fail to personally guide people (ok including women) and He will tell people to follow the BVKS debauchee guru's process? Nope!



Lord Vishnu Guides People to Worship His Pure Devotees Only

This is why some devotees were recently telling PADA that BVKS ilk are very much flat out atheists, because they think they can instruct people all over the world that they need to worship the BVKS illicit sex with men, women and children false prophet's program -- as Krishna's successor gurus, and Krishna will allow and facilitate that deviation en masse by falling asleep as the guiding principle of people's intellect? This is the main reason false guru programs never get to be very big in the first place, Krishna makes people aware that -- they are false prophets.

So the whole BVKS false messiah's program depends on the mass of people not being really connected to Krishna, and assuming they are like foolish, empty vessels, if not brainless robots, and so they will accept BVKS and his odious illicit sex pooja deviations. Nope! The mass of devotees, the mass of public, the USA public mass media, the USA courts, the police, and in sum -- persons all over the planet -- have ALREADY rejected the GBC's false guru process. Yep ALREADY. Because Krishna has already advised the mass of people from within -- this is a deviation, so they are not attracted.

In other words, BVKS seems to have no idea that all women everywhere ALREADY have Krishna as the supersoul (inside their hearts) guiding them, and its the same supersoul who is advising these women to REJECT the BVKS debauchee's messiah's program. In other words, the BVKS program does not even accept that the supersoul already exists everywhere, and it is THE SUPERSOUL Himself who will guide the mass of women AWAY from the bogus BVKS worship of illicit sex debauchee's program. 

Thus! Women are not going to join BVKS in worshiping his illicit sex guru lineage because they have their own GOD GIVEN intelligence to know -- BVKS is a bogus fool for promoting this deviation. OK that means women in general are vastly more advanced than BVKS is -- because they ALREADY know worship of a debauchee guru lineages will NEVER take a person back to Godhead. 

BVKS also has no apparent clue that his ISKCON temples, especially in Europe and North America, have ALREADY been emptied out and turned in ghost towns, because his program has ALREADY caused a mass exodus of these women and families, people that formerly were the residents there. Women and families cannot and will not be attracted to BVKS's program of worship of deviants as their gurus and messiahs. Sulochana said its like putting a dog's stool into the sweet rice, and then wondering why no one wants to drink any!  

And Govinda Dasi is right, the women, the householders, and family folks in general were always the main group involved in creating and running ISKCON all along, and should have become the bulwark of the society's upper level preaching later on. Instead, just after Srila Prabhupada had said "no more sannyasa" -- and we need to make a society based on varnasrama / householders, the BVKS program made a small elite group of "sannyasas" who were constantly being caught engaged in illicit sex and other scandals, and which discredited the entire religion and which alienated and chased away almost ALL these householders. 

Even Lokanatha swami said in 1988, ISKCON is a ghost town! In short the BVKS program is turning women and families away from ISKCON in droves, and Govinda dasi says this is because they are hard hearted artificial renunciates with no actual feelings for others, especially women and their plight. True dat!  

We cannot build ANY society without these women, children and householders, and that is what Srila Prabhupada told them, "No more sannyasa, make a society based on varnasrama farms, with women, children and householders." Instead, they started making hundreds more false sannyasas and they kicked out almost ALL of the householder's program's members wholesale. And they defended the bogus guru program that was removing all these people ...
    
BVKS thinks women in general are so foolish -- they will want to surrender their lives to the BVKS program that militantly enforces the worship of illicit sex, sexual predators, pornography swamis, debauchees, even people who are falling down into eating chicken salads, watching football games, and blaspheming Krishna -- as the GBC's "parampara members," "gurus" and "residents of Krishna loka." Why would any woman on earth want to worship BVKS and his illicit sex messiahs program -- as her gurus and messiahs? Its an insult to the intelligence of any woman to expect her to surrender to such an odious deviation.

In other words BVKS thinks women in general are just as foolish as he is, and they will want to worship the BVKS illicit sex messiahs project. That is simply never going to happen, ever. So BVKS is insulting the intelligence of women, and the intelligence of the supreme supersoul who is giving these women their intelligence -- every single day of his life, by telling these women they need to worship the BVKS illicit sex guru's succession in order to attain God. 

The good news is that the the supreme supersoul is already guiding women AWAY from the BVKS program, and thus there is the ghost town effect due to his preaching down to women and trying to insult their God given supersoul guided brains.      

A few other ladies were telling PADA recently that when Srila Prabhupada was here -- they could voice their concerns at the weekly istagosthis (meetings) but after Srila Prabhupada departed, that program was pretty much discontinued. So the voices of these women, and concerned householders and others were chopped off thereby. Yep! So they told me to keep up PADA, and make the istagosthi process public, and air people's concerns here since we are not allowed to voice ourselves inside the institution.




A woman says: Had our women's complaints been listened to -- most of these problems never would have happened. (!)

Meanwhile, BVKS is dreaming in color, he thinks women are going to be mothers at home, when there is no varnasrama farms and homes for them in his program. There is a nice home for deviants posing as messiahs! A woman was telling us the other day that the GBC's spending $20,000,000 on suing the Prabhupadanugas should have been used instead in making varnasrama for us women and householders, but the BVKS / GBC program has no interest in this project, its self evident. 

Meanwhile another woman told PADA that if the BVKS program had listened to the women and mothers who were complaining about the child abuse, this problem could have been substantially reduced. And this woman said "BVKS does not listen to us, we have no voice, and that is why his program causes problems for everyone." 

Right! Anyway, Govinda Dasi is right, the GBC does not listen to the women -- at their peril, of course they do not even listen to the supersoul, or their God brothers, or shastra, or Srila Prabhupada, or to the public media exposes, etc, never mind they do not listen to the rest of us! The good new is -- PADA is being read more and more -- and in more and more places across the globe. Our voices are thus being heard, at least on some scale somewhere. ys pd]