Monday, January 15, 2018

Creepy Sex Cult Scandal Greets Pope Francis

The Next Messiah is Gadi das -- of Mulberry Tennessee?




https://iskconleaders.com/gadi-prabhu/

http://www.murarisevaka.com/

http://www.murarisevaka.com/spiritual-masters/

http://www.murarisevaka.com/a-stern-warning/


Spiritual Masters

Murari Sevaka Asrama (Mulberry Tennesee) would not exist without the Grace of our entire Guru-parampara, The divine vision of Bhaktivinoda Thakura, our Paramagurudeva His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, His Holiness Aindra Prabhu, and our Gurudeva, Om Visnupada Astottara-sata Sri Srimad Gadi dasa Prabhu, who have given their whole heart and soul to fulfilling the innermost hearts desire of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabu. This page is dedicated to Their glories.


[PADA: Who knew? According to their own web site Gadi Dasa is another GBC certified guru, the Om Vishnupada Messiah of the Jagat? He is another GBC authorized diksha guru who can absorb sins like Jesus? And he does not want us to criticize Narayan Maharaja: the biggest cheer leading defender of Tamal and the GBC's molester messiah's guru project; which is credited with: banning, beating, molesting and assassinating folks? And maybe poisoning? 

Wasn't Gadi Dasa a big supporter of making Jayapataka the next acharya? And isn't this killing a number of these people like JPS, or at least making them extremely sick, because they are not qualified to absorb sins? 

  

Absorbing sins like Jesus -- how is that working out folks?

Bhakti Caru swami: is he another person encouraging neophytes to absorb sins, and suffer terrible results?

Did we forget to mention that Srila Prabhupada does not agree with Narayan Maharaja's idea that we never fell from Krishna's leela? And that the GBC wrote position papers saying no one should associate with the NM clan for all these reasons and more, but Gadi is openly advertising this fellow on his "ISKCON" authorized web site? But if some "Prabhupada folks" try to use the name ISKCON to advertise Srila Prabhupada, the GBC sues these folks in the Supreme Court of Delhi. The ISKCON name can only be used to advertise false gurus, and not the real guru? 

And NM is simply another person who encouages neophytes to take sins, which causes them to get sick, fall down and die prematurely? Did we forget to mention the GBC buried the body of a known sexual predator in the holy dham, and they are encouraging people to worship that dead lusty dog's carcass as a type of messiah from heaven? And there is a "stern warning" on Gadi's site, we cannot talk to Gadi about any of this? He will block all converstations related to these topics and keep us away from his "ISKCON" project?

In our current conversation with a media person, we are discussing that it seems to be illegal fraud to use the name of ISKCON for "corrupting the morals of minors," by telling little children that God's successors are often illicit sex, drug addicts, and sexual predator debauchees -- who might also be criminals who orchestrate murders? Why would we want little children to believe that the chain of messiahs from God in heaven often contains sexual predators and criminals? 

Anyway! If Gadi and / or his associates have an explanation for all this, send it to angel108b@yahoo.com. Thanks! ys pd]



What is going on inside the head of these messiahs from heaven?


==========================


And as for promoting NM's false idea that we were never with Krishna:

We fell from Krishna's association --


"Dr. Mize: The question that bothers me in part is, then, why would the soul... Because I understand your conception that the soul is part of the spiritual sky originally, or part of God, and it somehow falls out of this blissful condition due to pride, much like the Christian thesis that the devil fell out of heaven due to pride. And it seems puzzling why the soul would be so silly, so foolish, so insane, as to do such a thing.

Prabhupāda: That is his independence.

Dr. Mize: Independence.

Prabhupāda: Instead of using independence properly, when he misuses independence he falls.

Dr. Mize: I'm sorry, he what?

Prabhupāda: He falls down.

Dr. Mize: He falls.

Prabhupāda: He falls down on account of his independence. Just like you have got independence. You are sitting here. You can go immediately. You may not like to hear me.

Dr. Mize: I wouldn't what?

Prabhupāda: You may not like to hear me.

Dr. Mize: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That independence you have got. I have got also. I may not talk with you. So that independence is always there. Similarly, as part and parcel of God, the..., it is the duty of the soul to be always engaged in the service of the Lord.

Dr. Mize: Always engaged in...?

Prabhupāda: In the service of the Lord.

Dr. Mize: Service of the Lord.

Prabhupāda: Just like this finger is part and parcel of my body. Whatever I am ordering, it is immediately carrying out. I say, "Make it like this," he will..., it will do. So... But this is dead matter. It is acting mechanically. The brain directs immediately the finger and it acts, like machine. This whole body is just like a machine, but soul is not machine, mechanical part. It is spiritual part. So therefore, as I am directing the finger, as being machine, it is working, but if somebody else, a friend or servant, I may direct him to do something, he may not do it. So when the soul misuses the independence, then he falls down. That is material life. Material life means misusing the independence of soul. Just like a son. A son's duty is to obey the father. But he may not obey. That is his madness. So when the soul, misusing the independence, becomes mad, he is sent in this material world.

Dr. Mize: It is puzzling to me that one would be so foolish.

Prabhupāda: Because by independence you can become foolish. Otherwise, there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do whatever you like. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, that yathecchasi tathā kuru [Bg. 18.63]. [aside:] Find out this verse in the Eighteenth Chapter. That independence is there. After instructing the whole Bhagavad-gītā to Arjuna, Kṛṣṇa gave him the independence, "Now whatever you like, you can do." Kṛṣṇa never forced him to accept the teachings of Bhagavad-gītā. He gave him the independence, "Now whatever you like, you can do." And he agreed = "Yes. Now my illusion is over, I shall act as You say." The same independence. Yes.



=======================

Saturday, January 13, 2018

Killing For Krishna (4 sale on Amazon)

Narayana Maharaja Folks vs PADA (update)



PADA: How did you expect us to "take the GBC gurus out", when people like Naryana Maharaja are pushing them into the seats of guru, enabling their program? Our associates were assassinated for complaining about NM / GBC gurus ...

GJ: Listen prabhu don't really have time to argue because you will go on and on like a groundhog day.

PP: You were not allowed to see Narayana Maharaja after being invited to his ashram? It would have been Brajanath who left you sitting if that even happened, but Brajanath wouldn't allow so many people in. He stopped even the female disciples even from getting in. All Brajanath's doing. All classic misquoting of Puranjana: Why did NM say they are gurus if they are not pure? Worse, he said they are monkeys, and 11 of these monkeys are gurus?" 

PADA's style is to take loose facts and switch them around. It was Srila Prabhupada himself who called all of his disciples monkeys, as they were. 

[PADA: And these monkey are NM's rasika classes gurus?]

PP: He said it in Bengali to SNM at his death bed so to speak, and asked NM to look after them since obviously they are in the very beginning stages and will have no higher authority to guide them once he leaves and its become quite apparent what these neophyte disciples will do without a strong hand over them. 

PADA: No, this had nothing to do with Brajnath. Jadurani and NM personally met me on Venice beach and they both wanted me to come and speak with maharaja. Jadurani was shuttling back and forth all day long trying to get the meeting going. And at the end she was in tears when she had to report he had left the premises. I had introduced the poison investigation at that time and NM was one of my worst critics. I had hoped he was going to ask me about the issue since he was publicly attacking me for brining it forward. There were also many other issues that needed to be resolved, he basically shunned me the whole day.

Agreed, Srila Prabhupada said they are all monkeys, so why did NM say 11 of them are gurus, and he became a huge defender of Tamal, and NM was in Dallas and many places with Tamal, and he was supporting Tamal? And he said Tamal is a guru and we should not challenge that? What kind of help is it to say that 11 monkeys are going to be the gurus of the society?


PP: NM didn't want to emphasise the poison issue as its not correct that such a personality can be poisoned, thats not to say he didn't believe it did not happen and I cant speak for him, but hes free to meet with whomever he wants or not meet. 

[PADA: OK but why invite someone over to meet, if you have no intention of meeting? What kind of etiquette is that? Even the karmis know if you invite someone over you have to meet them, its common courtesy. Evidently NM is unaware of Vaishnava etiquette, or even ordinary mundane etiquette.] 

PP: Do you think any of my God brothers would ever meet with me in their big positions and that's on the same level just as a pathetic example. Point is you cant force even other people to behave how you want them too. You should team up with that other complainer about SNM Gaura Das.

[PADA: OK so your Narayan Maharaja leaders and God brothers are shunning you, that means they are also in a bubble and are not communicating with the citizens of the society they rule.] 

PP: NM never said they were Gurus. Show me that quote.

[PADA: I am a disciple of the person who complained of being poisoned. Its none of NM's business to interfere with me investigating this matter, and to demonize me over this could have got me killed. He said that Tamal is the "dear Tamal tree of Radha" and so many things, this is all on their own NM sites. NM was favorably associated with the GBC guru clique all along from 1978 until at least 1993 (see photo above), and he was a well known major cheer leader of their process and he was a major critic of those of us who challenged their process. And NM supported Satsvarupa's "Guru Reform" and he helped write the "Guru Reform Notebook." And ever since then their followers like Rocana / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Hanuman Croatia think gurus are people who need censure, correcting, suspending, voting in / voting out, and so many other mundane regulations under the guidance of their contrived guru monitoring committee.]

PP: He didn't interfere with you .. he talked about the issue sometimes in classes in Mathura, why? To correct this idea that a pure devotee can be poisoned by the disciples. Do you get what I mean? This is the crux of much arguments as its a fine point. So I ask you can a pure devotee be forced from his body by his demonic disciples? or do they choose to leave at that point?

[PADA: Narayan Maharaja was my worst critic and interfering person at the time? He was publicly saying that this is nonsense ... which could have got me killed. This has nothing to do with me or my statements, I had the tape of what Srila Prabhupada had said and he was not even interested in hearing it. To say that Jesus was not crucified due to malfeasance among his disciples is ignorance, plain and simple. NM was not even interested in hearing the evidence or listening to what Srila Prabhupada had said. He was defending the GBC's gurus and the poisoner party, as he had all along.]

PP: Well none of SNM were interested in killing you ... you got your own bat sh*t crazy American God brothers to point that finger at.

PADA: So now you are saying the gurus that NM supported are monkeys, bat sh*t fools, and crazy people? So why is NM aiding in annointing his bat sh*t crazy friends as the guru successors to Krishna? And why is he giving rasika classes to the bat sh*t crazy folks? 

And if these people will kill others, why is he enabling, supporting, promoting and assisting the people from this group? He knows they are orchestrating killing vaishnavas, and he props them up and thinks they are his "dear Tamal tree" rasika students? You simply confirmed what I said, he was promoting dangerous people as his idea of leaders and gurus, and its foolish to say he did not know these people were being worshiped as gurus, this was well known to everyone and still is well known. 

Worse, the GBC folks were using NM's counter-poison arguments against me, they were citing him, that I am a rascal, he was supporting them clearly. So he was purposefully pouring gas on me hoping the GBC would finish off the job -- apparently? Anyway he did not even want to hear the tape, he did not want to hear our side of the issue ... and why are you saying NM supporting the bat sh*t crazy people's guru sabha was "helping ISKCON"? Aiding making the bat sh*t crazy into acharyas is going to help the criminals and their crimes, and not help anyone else.

PP: Bat sh*t crazy Godbrothers ..... and they were also attacking SNM like snakes as soon as he didn't suit their purpose as big Gurus who needed to learn about the more in depth Rasik katha.

[PADA: OK so they are bat sh*t crazy, they are snakes, they are promoting illicit sex acharyas, and the real problem is -- they need more rasika talks? Or don't they need hand cuffs and for us to call the police on their actions? Why do snakes, bat sh*t crazy people who orchestrate murders etc. ... qualify as rasika students?] 

PP: So you avoided my question to u?

[PADA: NM was constantly with the GBC folks, and he was visiting them and so on? He refused to talk to me? Now you are saying the gurus program he was giving rasika classes to are the bat sh*t crazy people. Why is NM giving "rasika classes" to the same people you identify as bat sh*t crazy and monkey folks, who can get people killed? And why is he saying I am a rascal for quoting my guru on the poison issue? That is helping them ... and endangering me because they are quoting him. He did not even care to hear the November 1977 tapes, of which I was the only person who was personally publishing at the time? He left and refused to hear ...]

PP: You're rather included in my description. You Americans are off the wall crazy. Put that in your blog too.

[PADA: OK so you are admitting he was giving rasika classes to bat sh*t crazy monkeys, who kill people, and he was helping them attack the people who bought out the poison issue, which could have got us killed by the bat sh*t crazy people he was helping by attacking me? I am glad you admit, he was making a rasika class program with bat sh*t crazy people who would kill people, and he was pouring gas on me by helping them along with the poison issue, which means, he could have got me killed by assisting them in that way. So now you are saying, opposing poisoners and molesters is off the wall crazy, that is the result of hearing from NM. He was chopping the legs off our protest and he was propping them up. Anyone who says there is a crime going on is crazy, that helps the crimes go on.]

PP: Apologies to all my American brethen. I get carried away with my impression of you. The main problem is the American lust or desire to consume everything and enjoy it, control it and then kill it . I know you are not all like this at all and there are many nice well mannered good morals Americans. The lustful ones who enjoy the opulences of command simply give a bad name

[PADA: Wonderful, so you admit NM was helping the bat sh*t crazy people who kill devotees, by agreeing with them and pouring gas on me. So you admit he was helping those people by giving them arguments to attack me (and the poison issue). This is good progress, so the GBC guru program he was assisting from 1978 - 1993 is not only monkeys they are bat sh*t insane people who murder others. Got it!]

PP: Srila Prabhupada was helping all the bat sh*t crazy americans was he not ?

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada never promoted them after they said that they are gurus? I am glad you admit that NM knew these people were bat sh*t crazy monkeys, therefore he was teaching fools rasika. You also admit that he knew they could kill people, so NM saying I am a rascal to help them means, he was pouring gas on me hoping they would finish the job? He was putting my life in danger by saying it was an offense to forward the poison issue, and you admit, they kill people for these things. Right, all my friends said that at the time, NM is pouring gas on you by defending the GBC on the poison issue, and he is endangering your life thereby. He was the main cheer leading assistant of the bat sh*t crazy acharya sabha ...]

PP: Thus Tims final glorious twist on words piecing them together like a true trained spy.

[PADA: I am quoting you? You said these people are bat sh*t crazy folks ...]

PP: No you are not . You never quote people correctly and thats why you are not a good source for these issues since you are simply a paid troll these days.

[PADA: Quoting you ... "bat sh*t crazy godbrothers ..... and they were also attcking SNM like snakes as soon as he didn't suit their purpose as big Gurus who needed to learn about the more in depth Rasik katha." OK Rasika katha to the -- bat sh*t crazy monkeys? Who kill people?]

PP: I know people like you who work for nefarious agencies have no moral compass and thats your choice or maybe you never had one . Your giving a bad name to your bosses.

[PADA: Wow, so our objecting to NM's supporting Tamal's child molesting guru program is not the moral path? We should have joined NM is promoting this process? You failed to answer the point, he was attacking the poison issue, he invited me over to discuss it, also because he was well known attacking me and the issue in public, but he refused to discuss it. So he wanted to pour gas on me to help the bat sh*t crazies ... who kill people. Most people think NM supporting a child molesting guru program is proof he is the nefarious agency.]

PP: You confess first who employs you?

[PADA: Now you are saying our exposing the molesting and poison issue is some paid up secret agency conspiracy? That is what Tamal said ... that is how you folks get people killed by demonizing them in this way. Of course as soon as we said Srila Prabhupada was complaining of being poisoned, then the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur types said I was "an agent of the illuminati." So they are also trying to kiss the boots of the poison sabha by discrediting anyone who exposes their odious crimes as some sort of "paid agents." Sorry, exposing molesting and poisoning is not something a person generally gets paid to do. Its dangerous work, and NM's and his pal's saying that we are rascals is making it more dangerous.]

PP: So many devotees know you to be in the employ of some Gov agencies and that would have happened at what stage. When you were going to the FBI or were you somehow turned before then?

[PADA: So you cannot answer these points, neither could NM ... Same thing with the child molesting issue, I said there is child molesting, NM said I was an offender to the dear Dallas Tamal tree. So we had to sue them for $400,000,000 in Dallas. They lost. And its ok to give rasika to people who are poisoners and orchestrating mass child molesting? That is your story and you are sticking to it?]

PP: All the same old talking points for years and years posted or spammed on any board you can notice. Do you have some sort of tech algorithm that alerts you to key words.

[PADA: Poison complaints and child molesting are some tech algorithm? Poison is some math problem? Amazing, the pure devotee says he is being poisoned and the NM folks think that is some math equation! No feelings, no mercy, no understanding of the severity of the issue. And now a devotee from Hawaii says the old Prabhupada disciples there are getting their kids to worship NM. We need to worship the number one hand maiden enabler of the molester and poisoner sabha, the biggest cheer leader of the bat sh*t crazy messiahs project? ys pd] 



NM's bat sh*t crazy acharyas

==================

Correct prabhu, NM is also harming neophytes by saying they can be diksha gurus --


Srila Prabhupada said that if we neophytes would become diksha gurus, we would be taking sins and that would make us get sick, fall down or both. Many of them died prematurely too. So when the disciples of Bhakti Tirtha swami sent me a notice to pray for their guru because he has taken too many of our sins, I said, he was specifically told not to take sins? Why should we pray to save people who violate the orders of their acharya? We should rob a bank, then pray to be saved from the police? Why would God answer such a prayer? ys pd

Monday, January 8, 2018

Various Updates on Bhaktivedanta Archives Site

Oprah helps Vegan Program

GBC's Shastric Advisory Committee



GBC Critique of 2013 SAC Paper

BY: VIDHEYA DEVI DASI


"The following is a critique by a GBC member of the Sastra Advisory Council’s 2013 FDG paper. The analysis is so scathing that the SAC was too embarrassed to publish their paper to the public. Thus it was not easy for us to get a copy of it and the GBC review. This paper could be held up as an example of how not to write a paper, it is that bad. But, you may be asking, why are we posting this here on Urmila’s blog? 

The reason is simple, Urmila is the chairwoman of the SAC and she is also pushing to be a diksa guru so she is the main one responsible for this SAC paper. Of course all other members of the SAC who signed off on it also bear responsibility but she is the main one. It is because of several papers like this that no one has any respect for or trust in the SAC. And, it thus reflects badly on her. Urmila’s ambition is to be in the spotlight, what she didn’t realize is that in the spotlight we can see all her spots.


Before you read the critique you should read the original SAC paper.

And, this is the response by ISKCON India in 2009 to the first SAC paper on FDG and the reason why the SAC came out with their 2013 paper.

and


Why Women Should Not Be on the Sastric Advisory Council


[PADA: First of all, why do acharyas need to have an SAC (Shastric Advisory Committee) to monitor and advise them in the first place? This is the first problem we have had with the Gaudiya Math / GBC / Rocana / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Hanuman Croatia program, apparently they think God's acharyas no longer need to receive dictation from God. Rather acharyas need to be "dictated to" by the GBC / or SAC committee, and be the subordinated peons of some sort of speculating group of conditioned souls. 

OK and the speculating GBC is the superior authority to the acharya, and will oversee and overlord the acharya. Worse, many in this same group also write complaints and advice for their acharyas, because they also think they are the superior advisors of the acharya. Where is this "acharya's advisory group" system used in the Vedas? Yep! The GBC / Rocana / Hanuman Croatia etc. are the advisors to the acharyas. 

OK, (A) they rubber stamp fools as their acharyas, then (B) correct and advise them? No! 

Acharyas are not the subordinated subjects of the control of conditioned souls or their contrived committees. These "acharya advisor" folks never understood the square one idea of Krishna consciousness, the acharya is getting dictation from Krishna, not from some faulty committee, and / or various ad hoc advisors like the SAC / Rocana / Torben / Hanuman Croatia etc. The acharya is being given dictation from Krishna, not these people. This is also what the GBC said in 1980, Sridhara Maharaja is our "advisor." Why do acharyas need such advisors? And what did Sridhara Maharaja advise? Well we should hold meetings and decide how these acharyas should operate. Speculating!

Thus! The GBC -- combined with their Shastra Committee -- comes up with all sorts of "rules for acharyas": The acharyas are to be: voted in, voted out, censured, monitored for deviations, chastised, over-ruled, suspended for deviations, and even -- excommunicated for deviations. What kind of acharyas are the subject of such rules? 

Rocana's "constitution" plans to have many more of these same "acharya rules" as part of his plan, but he forgets that acharyas are not subordinated to such committees and their rules? Some of the SAC shastra committee folks changed the process of bhogha offerings: we should offer bhogha to Krishna first, in case our guru is deviating. We cannot offer bhogha to the guru first, the system established by the acharya? And we need to offer to Krishna first, because our guru might be deviating? What kind of gurus are they producing then? 

And then Bhakti Vikas swami writes a book to condemn the SAC "Female Diksha Guru" idea. Yet BVKS never addresses the fact that acharyas would not be subordinated to such a committee in the first place? And he has to write a book to censure, correct, and educate -- the other acharyas? So he is another acharya advisor. Sorry, the acharya's advisor is -- Krishna. We might think we are going to take over the job of Krishna, and take over His position as the advisor of the acharyas, but that is how we fell to the material world in the first place -- we wanted to take over the post of Krishna. ys pd  

Sunday, January 7, 2018

Tamal: The Mercy Killer? (video)

Chant For Peace / Seva Radhika Devi (CD Baby)

Vrndavan Mahimamrta (Kusakratha dasa)

GBC invades -- Latvia?

http://www.winterfestival.lt/

PADA: Right, after 1977 the ISKCON GBC began promoting their idea that the path to God is to worship their illicit sex acharyas. That was gradually rejected wholesale and as such, they have essentially burned out their North American market, European market, and other important world markets. More and more people in various areas have been rejecting their program of worship of bogus messiahs aka sexual predators, drunkards, vodka drinkers, pot smokers, pedophiles, sex with taxi driver gurus and so on. 

But the last thing they want to do it change their product? 

In fact they even buried one of their favorite pedophile messiahs in Vrndavana. So now, they have to go to places where people are not so much aware of their history, like Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, and one guru told my friend he sticks with a teeny country in the third world so he will not be "embroiled in the controversy." Ok he is on the run from their history. 

Really, there is no controversy here, worship of illicit sex gurus, acharyas, messiahs and "members of a chain of gurus going to God" is a deviation. The people in Latvia simply do not know what snake oil the GBC is selling them over there. Anyway this is great, the circle of places they can go and fool people is getting smaller and smaller, hee hee! ys pd   

Who will be the next Mormon Prophet? (satire)

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/kirby/2018/01/07/kirby-if-god-picks-me-to-be-the-next-mormon-prophet-heres-what-i-will-do/

[PADA: Yep, this guy is writing a satire on the issue. Yet the Mormons are apparently in the process of selecting their next prophet. We wish them well, but for us conditioned beings to be selecting the next prophet does not always end well. That is because its generally (always!) the job of God to select His  prophets. 

And when us conditioned beings try to take up that task, there is plenty of room for error. 

This writer alludes to this point herein, maybe God will select someone else to be the prophet, and that prophet might not be the same person the council selects. That means: God has the actual exclusive authority to select / empower His own prophets -- and no one else. Correct! Just look at the line of bogus folks the ISKCON GBC "selects" to be their "God's successors" prophets, quite often -- debauchees and deviants. Hmmm, maybe its better to leave this job to the higher authority. 

Mind you, the Mormons we see are very nice people and they have a loving and caring society which looks after the vulnerable members and so on, and we could learn a lot from them how to make a functioning social infrastructure. However, when it comes to selecting the prophet, we all might do better to leave that to a higher source. 

ys pd]   

Saturday, January 6, 2018

Ocean's "dead zones" increasing in size

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/climate-change-ocean-dead-zones_us_5a4ff489e4b003133ec7cc3f?


Ultimately, such changes are “unsustainable and may result in ecosystem collapses, which ultimately will cause societal and economic harm.”

[PADA: Another sign Kali yuga is increasing -- "life cannot be sustained" in major sectors of the ocean. ys pd]