Thursday, June 4, 2020

"I am Tired" (Acyutya Gopi Dasi)


I...am tired. So incredibly tired. I have cried. I have searched. I have asked why. I have prayed. I have collapsed. I have had nightmares and shot up from a deep sleep. AND I have tried. TRIED. TRIED to cling to the Holy Name. And I am also tired. I have so much to say. And yet, I am not your token black friend. Nor am I simply your hot topic statement piece.

It is amazing. FRIENDS AND ELDERS who have never asked me my thoughts and views on ANYTHING either religious or irreligious are now asking for a statement piece. Was I not knowledgeable on ANYTHING before? 


Did it take another death before someone thought I had a voice that spoke AND ALSO sung? The Holy name is all important to me. I actually love Srimad Bhagavatam. I am a storyteller. I am an author. I wish I could grow up to be a Vedic Historian. And not many have asked me about these things.

They look and wonder “but racism hasn’t happened to you has it? Oh come on, but you’re not this body.” Oh I know I’m not this body. I’ve been whipped with that statement enough times and had it branded on my skin. I’ve choked on the philosophy I’ve been given in times when I’ve felt the deepest heartache. AND I love Govinda. I still want to love Govinda.

My silence in not speaking about it...is part of the racism. Fear that if I speak, my service may not be there. Fear that if I speak, my friends will not be there. Fear that if I speak, my spiritual culture and community will turn ANOTHER blind eye toward me. But if I really believe in Govinda then He is the way above, around, and through fear. He is the fear of fear personified.

In a way I feel as though I am in another cage. Examined. Prodded. Poked at. Leered at. “Tell me your experience”. But that actually means “tell me I’m not the one doing it”. Truth is ... I’m not sure I can do that. I am not sure I can assure you that you aren’t racist. That’s for you to look inwardly and honestly speak with Paramatma and say. Because Krishna knows. And you know.

We know when the jokes are made and we stay silent. We know when the glances are passed and we stay silent. We know when the feelings turn sour and we stay silent. WE DO KNOW. And Krishna knows. I am tired. AND I continue to do the most safe thing.

I sing. While I cry. I sing of Govinda. While I ache. I sing of Govinda. While I burn inside. I sing of Govinda. While I lift my head against a veil of shame that has come upon me through no fault of my own. I sing of Govinda. While I beat my fists against a door to understanding, to hope, and to love that remains closed to me, the door to the hearts of others... I sing of Govinda.

And while I am a hot topic of conversation, and afterwards, when everyone will have convinced themselves that this fight is no longer important... that I am no longer important. I sing of Govinda. For that is my prayer. And my hope. And my soul’s legacy. I pray that I will be remembered as having had a voice. A voice filled with love for Govinda. A voice filled with love for Govinda’s friends which are each and every single one of you. A voice that makes the Lord of my heart proud.

If He can hear my voice... then that is all that matters. I can’t change the world. That is His domain. But I can love Him. And I can let that become my message.
Sing... If you’re talking to your friends now ... continue to speak to them. Tomorrow. A week from now. A month from now. All the people you’re  contacting now. Contact them in the future. Hear from them. Read with them. Chant with them. We are spirit souls. We are your friends. We have thoughts and hearts and realizations.

And while I can’t speak for all of us. I know that for some of us...

We are tired.

Foreign Devotee Reacts to Puri Shut Down (Video)


Wednesday, June 3, 2020

Vrndavana Panihati Festival Live Stream (Video)


Paramadvaiti Swami Fights for His Lasting Legacy (VRNDA)




Down in the dumpster

When pride begins to get bigger, then the reaction is stronger. To defame advanced spiritual people, speaking bad about them or feeling superior to them, is an offense. If one becomes so proud that one gets to criticize their own spiritual guide, it is obvious that after that one will no longer have his blessings, because one has closed his way to receive them.

No one has the right to feel he is more qualified. We are all made out of pure mercy. FIGHT AGAINST THE PRIDE THAT MAKES ONE TO LOSE THE CHANCE TO GET TO THE SPIRITUAL WORLD and leads him to the experience of being beaten down spiritully, for feeling superior, smug, and for believing so much falsity against their spiritual guide. 

[PADA: Is is amazing that some of the Paramadvaiti folks are still coming to the defense of their "eternal resident of Krishna loka." I have personally seen a photo of what looks very much like Paramadvaiti swami -- with what looks very much like a naked young girl on his lap. And if the people who took this photo knew of some of these incidents, or they knew of instances of other misconduct among grown up victims, why was this not reported to the government authority and legal charges pressed? 

Its simply baffling / amazing to me how so many of the so-called Krishna community allows so many abusers and sexual predator exploiter types to wander around with little or no counter action, even when they pose as big sannyasas or gurus. Something is drastically wrong here. Even some friends at Mayapur are complaining that abusive folks like Bhakti Vidya Purna and others are still allowed around ISKCON facility. Of course, we are banned?

Meanwhile a friend asked a few other Sridhara Maharaja gurus, leaders and followers to reign in Paramadvaiti. And they said "he has his own sangha, we have nothing to do with him." OK, so someone is allowed to misrepresent themselves as followers of Sridhara Maharaja, and there is no system of checks and balances to correct rogues mis-using the name of their guru? 

If someone is posing as a Messiah, Pope or Bishop of the Catholic Church and he is abusing female followers, the Church will sue that rogue person for "impersonating the Church." None of that ever happens in the so-called Krishna community? Evidently there is a lot of sympathy for these abusers, and so they are empowered and enabled to remain in big posts. 

Of course we also had the same problem with the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks. As soon as we said we are going to put a halt to their "anal reconstructive surgery of little boys" child molesting messiah's regime, they started crying like stuck pigs that we were spoiling their mass molesting party. Even the police told me, this could not have gone on for 20 years unless these people love to defend the abuse program going on, and they hate anyone putting a halt to it, because they are mostly in sympathy with the molester project. And yes, the police ALSO told me many times, your life is in danger for fighting against this agenda.

There are thus many who identify with the molesters and not so much with those of us dissenting the molesting. Its SELF EVIDENT. I don't want to print herein what they said when I told our police friends -- they are now burying molesters and porno swamis in worshiped samadhis, since this is not our policy to post long bouts of foul language. 

In other words, there is evidently a lot of sympathy for the molesting regime, primarily and mainly, and not so much sympathy for the victims. Sulochana called these people "boot lickers of the bu** busters." The good news is, the molester messiah's club is more and more being protested and exposed, just as we protested and exposed it ourselves.

Anyway, we can see that their only argument left is, don't offend our wonderful guru, even when he is caught red handed with his hands in the cookie jar. I think a lot of these folks are starting to realize now, their legacy is going down the tubes in history for being what it is. "There is no more cruel judge than how history records our actions." True dat! Hee hee! ys pd   

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VIVO NEWS:




Tuesday, June 2, 2020

Krishna Book Reading Club (Video)


Krishnapath Site reopens partially

http://142.93.223.152:8002/

[After being hacked, they are slowly re-building.]

Happy Nirjala Ekadasi (June 2, 2020)


The purpose of ekādaśī-vrata is that today we should not eat much usual food, grains. The actual prescription is fasting. Nirjala-ekādaśī. Nirjala means there are many devotees who does not take even water.

Lecture on SB 1.5.1-8 -- New Vrindaban, May 23, 1969:


Without being freed from sinful activities nobody can take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. The method is easy. You can get out of sinful activities. But don't commit again. If you think that "I shall ignite fire and pour water again," then what is the use of? Simply waste of time. So that should not be done.

So, parāvare brahmaṇi dharmato vrataiḥ. So one should execute Kṛṣṇa consciousness, dharmataḥ, in right path, and vrataiḥ. Bhajante māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ. Just like today, ekādaśī-vrata. Vrataiḥ. This ekādaśī-vrata is required. Just see. Here it is that "You have performed all the vratas." The purpose of ekādaśī-vrata is that today we should not eat much usual food, grains. 

The actual prescription is fasting. Nirjala-ekādaśī. Nirjala means there are many devotees who does not take even water. Water, drinking water, according to śāstra, it is taking food... It is drinking of food or no food. We can take both ways. So sometimes drinking of water is excused as upavāsa also. But there are many devotees who even..., drink even a drop of water. Whole day and night they fast and observe ekādaśī-vrata. And the night is called harivāsara. Harivāsara means the whole night they would chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma... This is called vrata. Dṛḍha-vrata.

Visiting Varanasi (Video)


Prajapati Das Departs


From JG Das

A couple more notes about our Godbrother Prajapati Prabhu:

When the book “Life comes from life” was published they didn’t mentioned his name, but he told us that a lot of those questions in the book were his to Srila Prabhupada, however, the BBT didn’t want to add too many names so they just left it as Karandhar.


Also in the video/play of “God on trial” Written by Anadi Prabhu, Anadi told me that Prajapati wrote part of the dialogues. He came and stayed at my place a few times.

I am also honored to say that I acted with him in different plays. We also spent some time together in Mexico City and traveled together from Mexico City to Guadalajara and back to Mexico City. Bottom line, we were good friends, but then again, as I mentioned before, he was good friends with pretty much everyone. He was a great person, a true gentleman, warm hearted, very kind to everyone and very talented.

Prabhupada called him “his theologian”


We will miss him dearly,

All glories to his service, all glories to our Divine Eternal Father Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: Living in Iowa somewhere and not near a big ISKCON center. Another refugee. Anyway! God speed spirit soul.] 

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Saturday, May 30, 2020

ISKCON's Defenders: GBC's Ritvik Priests?


Hanuman Croatia and his guru parampara

[Summing up phone call with JOJO]

PADA: ISKCON people (like Hanuman Croatia and others) say we are like bogus Christians. Why? Because we worship Srila Prabhupada. Bad idea! Since worship of a "departed person" is the bogus posthumous, post samadhi, post mortem ritvik idea (just ask GBC / Gaudiya Matha / Narayan Maharaja / Torben / Rocana / Kailash). 

At the same time ... these folks like Hanuman say they CAN worship departed (dead) GBC's gurus like Sridhar Swami, never mind he is a departed and post mortem person. Also a friend of Radhanath. So! Worship of the departed person is the bogus ritvik idea, but Hanuman is doing that himself, he worships a post mortem acharya. 

So they are re-writing history. First of all -- they said we need a living person. And then Gaura Govinda Maharaja and others said "sabda brahman does not descend from tapes and books." Then, as these folks died, the Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Narayan Maharaja, Tamal Krishna people etc. started "tape ministries" of their departed gurus. After -- they really or de facto said tapes and books are not sabda brahman.

Apparently we can only worship departed members of their pedophile guru process, otherwise worship of someone like Jesus is verboten. And their bogus parampara gives us sabda brahman? Really? Jojo said, they are making an artificial caste system. Only the people they certify, vote in or anoint can be worshiped. Also like the Pope system. Its a corporate guru monopoly.

We Prabhupadanugas cannot worship Jesus or Prabhupada, because allegedly they are non-worshipable after their physical form departs. Yet people like Hanuman and many hundreds of others around ISKCON are acting as the "brahmana representatives" of a departed person aka ritviks. So they are promoting worship of their posthumous gurus -- themselves. 

In sum! They are promoting their own concocted post mortem guru system, while saying worship of someone like Jesus is invalid. So they can act as the (ritvik) representatives of the departed members of their pedophile guru parampara, but no one else is allowed to act as the representative of the bona fide guru parampara. They are making an artificial monopoly on who gets to act as a representative and who does not. 

Jojo got very upset realizing there is another reason for their idea, they want to corrupt and pollute the children of the world by having them believe members of a pedophile guru process are bona fide, and can be still be worshiped post mortem and buried in samadhis. 

In short, they are the GBC's ritviks, or "representatives" of the bogus GBC's guru parampara, including their post mortem parampara. There are maybe thousands of them all over the place. Many ISKCON people we know -- still worship these departed persons. There are even some left over remnant people who worship Jayatirtha for that matter.

In fact! There are a lot of people -- very easy to find in ISKCON -- who worship departed gurus like for example Tamal Krsna swami. And they still worship lots of other blooped out or departed people. The Gaudiya Matha's Sridhara people all worship departed Sridhara. The Narayan Maharaja people all worship their departed guru. This is same with all of them. 

Oh oh! We Prabhupadanugas cannot worship a departed person, but they have a special license. So really it comes down to, they CAN worship the departed members of the GBC's illicit sex guru parampara, but we can NOT worship a "departed" pure devotee. This is the rule they concocted, and we can see how ISKCON is suffering and even dying under their bogus rule. Its forbidden to worship a so-called departed pure devotee, but its allowed to worship a departed member of the GBC's debauchee's guru process, or a cheer leader of the GBC like Narayan Maharaja.

And Hanuman says Gaura Govinda is a good person to be guru as far as he sees. Another departed person. Also a mayavada who says we were never with Krishna. Hanuman sees "nothing wrong" with worship of a dead person who is a also a mayavada. Mostly the followers of Gaura Govinda then went to Narayan Maharaja, who also says we were never with Krishna, another mayavada. 

Yes, there is nothing much wrong with worship of the post mortem people who support this mayavada program. And Gaura Govinda Maharaja made a series of public videos attacking Srila Prabhupada's jeeva tattva. Even many GBC people support GGM, knowing he preaches mayavada. Knowing also that GGM is voted in to the pedophile guru process. 

Of course, the apparent reason GBC / Sridhar / Bhakti vikas swami / Gaura Govinda Maharaja et al. are bona fide is -- they are "2/3 show of hands voted in" as acharyas -- by the same GBC folks who reinstated sex with taxi driver's in the holy dham as their acharya and "Vishnupada." So anyone in a program which says -- sex with taxi drivers deviants are "Vishnupada acharyas" -- is bona fide. 

This is why Hanuman promotes GBC Sridhar / BVKS and Gaura Govinda, all voted into that pedophile parampara. Then again, their parampara has illicit sex with men, women and children, so sex with taxi drivers is a minor offense in their system. 

Then too bad, boo hoo -- Gaura Govinda died. Ooops. So they have no living person anymore. Only they can worship their departed guru, we cannot worship Prabhupada and be like a Christian. This makes no sense. They have a special license to worship a departed person, we don't. Its a caste or ecclesiastical vote system monopoly.   

These ISKCON people never made any sense to me. They think our worship of the departed person is the bogus Christian idea. They forgot? All of their gurus will depart sooner or later. Many of their gurus already fell down, blooped or died.   

They don't know ... everyone here has to die. This sounds like the most foolish idea ever. We have to worship the GBC's "eternal guru" who is a living person and not be like Christians. They forgot. All of their living persons are dying every day, even the real and bona fide gurus will also physically depart at some point. They think they can escape death, and worship the body of their dead guru forever. How foolish is that? 

Their living gurus are dying every day, and they think this is the eternal guru idea. Then when their guru dies, they say our GBC guru is the eternal parampara, so we still worship him after he departs, but Prabhupada is not eternal parampara, so you are not allowed to worship him. What! 

This is why their program is failing. 

We don't see hardly any people going to make a program with Hanuman either. People are not joining ISKCON in numbers, nor the whole living guru program, because gradually their program is dwindling on its own. A senior devotee told me a few days ago, they have reduced ISKCON to a teeny insignificant cult, that is morally and financially bankrupted, and its going downhill all the more because the pandemic is hitting their pocketbook. I told Jojo, you know more about guru tattva than all this lot put together. 

Only the GBC folks can worship a posthumous, post samadhi, post mortem person, because they are members of their pedophile guru process. And! Anyone who wants to worship Jesus or Prabhupada is bogus, its really what they are saying all along. People are catching on. 

ys pd

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V DASA: The historic response of the GBC / BBTI / Gurus / Sanyasis is to drag their feet, ignore, stonewall, insult, infiltrate to confuse their critics, ad hominem attacks, label any and everyone who questions their actions as envious snakes. The list goes on and on. We should just face the facts that from 1978 our mission was co-opted into a loosely held worldwide group of small Temples who are held ransom by a power hungry group of insiders. 


It started with eleven and has gradually grown to about 100 if you include all the so-called ‘initiating gurus’. Our future lies in expanding the mission of Lord Caitanya into people’s homes and communities and accept that the formal group Iskcon has gone the way of organized religions. The so-called ‘leaders’ are obsessed with the Temple buildings and assets which Srila Bhaktisiddhanta opined were better to strip the marble from the walls and sell to print books. 

The Body is Awarded by Karma (SP Video)


Friday, May 29, 2020

Offering Bhogha To Krishna (Video)




[PADA: It seems like -- more and more -- we find both in and out of ISKCON,  people are saying that Srila Prabhupada is their actual guru. And thus, he should be offered the (food preparations) bhogha. That was our original argument in 1978, we cannot offer bhogha to conditioned souls. Nor should we place the photos of conditioned souls on the altars.

And since Srila Prabhupada is the ultimate guru of the ISKCON members, therefore we also offer the new disciples to him as well. That makes him the guru of the bhogha offerings, and the guru of the newcomers. This is of course what we Prabhupadanugas have said all along. 

In other words, the so-called GBC guru is more or less an artificially concocted figurehead, and he is not a self realized soul, which is why even the ISKCON Disciples Course (IDC) teaches that the GBC guru might have to be replaced for deviations. So if he is, or potentially is, having to be replaced for deviations, then he is not a self realized soul. So it makes more and more sense, we should not offer the bhogha -- or the new disciples to defective beings.

What we are starting to see also more and more, is that ordinary even new bhakta types of people are coming to figure out that Srila Prabhupada is the person who should be their guru. They don't need to see a July 9th letter, they don't need to see the last Will, they just know automatically who is the guru by his self effulgent qualities. I also accepted Srila Prabhupada on the same principle and did not need to see some sort of legally written will or certification letter. 

I knew he was the guru because he was giving people Krishna, self evidently. So the point is that Srila Prabhupada is sort of re-emerging more and more as the guru -- by default, de facto. This is a good sign of progress. 

Meanwhile, some newer devotees apparently living near Mayapur said that Bhakti Vidya Purna swami (who was condemned by the Child Protection Office) is back and preaching in Mayapur. And they wrote to tell me how disgusting it is that the GBC gurus sort of allow this guy to float around. OK, so they are newer people, and even they are seeing that the GBC is like a dead body when it comes to managing things that need to be managed. 

That means more people are waking up, that is a natural situation. Again this is good progress because if the GBC guru system is bogus, which guru should we accept instead?  

The answer is more and more self evident. 

ys pd] 

Navanita Choram Bhajan (Video) W / Translation




LYRICS: 

(1) vraje prasiddhaḿ navanīta-cauraḿ gopāńganānāḿ ca dukūla-cauram aneka-janmārjita-pāpa-cauraḿ caurāgragaṇyaḿ puruṣaḿ namāmi 

(2) śrī rādhikāyā hṛdayasya cauraḿ navāmbuda-śyāmala-kānti-cauram padāśritānāḿ ca samasta-cauraḿ caurāgragaṇyaḿ puruṣaḿ namāmi 

(3) akiñcanī-kṛtya padāśritaḿ yaḥ karoti bhikṣuḿ pathi geha-hīnam kenāpy aho bhīṣaṇa-caura īdṛg dṛṣṭaḥ-śruto vā na jagat-traye ’pi 

(4) yadīya nāmāpi haraty aśeṣaḿ giri-prasārān api pāpa-rāśīn āścarya-rūpo nanu caura īdṛg dṛṣṭaḥ śruto vā na mayā kadāpi 

(5) dhanaḿ ca mānaḿ ca tathendriyāṇi prāṇāḿś ca hṛtvā mama sarvam eva palāyase kutra dhṛto ’dya caura tvaḿ bhakti-dāmnāsi mayā niruddhaḥ 

(6) chinatsi ghoraḿ yama-pāśa-bandhaḿ bhinatsi bhīmaḿ bhava-pāśa-bandham chinatsi sarvasya samasta-bandhaḿ naivātmano bhakta-kṛtaḿ tu bandham 

(7) man-mānase tāmasa-rāśi-ghore kārāgṛhe duḥkha-maye nibaddhaḥ labhasva he caura! hare! cirāya sva-caurya-doṣocitam eva daṇḍam 

(8) kārāgṛhe vasa sadā hṛdaye madīye mad-bhakti-pāśa-dṛḍha-bandhana-niścalaḥ san tvāḿ kṛṣṇa he! pralaya-koṭi-śatāntare ’pi sarvasva-caura! hṛdayān na hi mocayāmi 

TRANSLATION 

1) I offer my respectful obeisances to that foremost of thieves – who is famous in Vraja as the butter-thief and He who steals the gopis’ clothes, and who, for those who take shelter of Him, steals the sins which have accrued over many lifetimes. 

2) I offer my respectful obeisances to the foremost of thieves – who steals Srimati Radhika’s heart, who steals the dark luster of a fresh raincloud, and who steals all the sins and sufferings of those who take shelter of His feet. 

3) He turns His surrendered devotees into paupers and wandering, homeless beggar – alas! Such a fearsome thief has never been seen or heard of in all the three worlds. 

4) Mere utterance of His name purges one of a mountain of sins – such an astonishingly wonderful thief I have never seen or heard of anywhere! 

5) O Thief! Having stolen my wealth, my honor, my senses, my life and my everything, where can You run to? I have caught You with the rope of my devotion. 

6) You cut the terrible noose of Yamaraja, You sever the dreadful noose of material existence, and You slash everyone’s material bondage, but You are unable to cut the knot fastened by Your own loving devotees. 

7) O stealer of my everything! O Thief! Today I have imprisoned You in the miserable prison-house of my heart which is very fearful due to the terrible darkness of my ignorance, and there for a very long time You will remain, receiving appropriate punishment for Your crimes of thievery! 

8) O Krsna, thief of my everything! The noose of my devotion remaining forever tight, You will continue to reside in the prison-house of my heart because I will not release You for millions of aeons. 

Panihati-chida-dahi Festival (ISKCON Bangalore)

Thursday, May 28, 2020

Prayer Request for Ramadevi ACBS



Dear Devotees,

Our humble obeisances to you. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I am writing on behalf of the group of carers who are serving Her Grace Ramadevi Dasi, Srila Prabhupada’s disciple and a long-standing resident of the Mayapur community, to inform the local and international devotees of Ramadevi’s state of health.

Some days ago, Ramadevi collapsed, and it was clear her condition had accelerated. Ramavijaya Prabhu arranged her swift transfer to the Calcutta hospital who had been treating her pre-lockdown. After an MRI and talks with the specialist doctors tending to Ramadevi, the diagnosis is that her condition is now terminal, and no treatment is possible.

Ramavijaya escorted Ramadevi home to Mayapur last night. She will be receiving 24-hour palliative care, and personal attendance, in the coming days.

Of course we are all still observing lockdown, most especially inside the campus, so there will be limited, scheduled visiting. There will be even more limited access to Ramadevi electronically, as she is in no condition to do so. We are asking, therefore, that all communications, questions, or messages for or about Ramadevi be posted via phone (+91 9775186307). Be assured that Ramadevi will receive every message sent, and ask that you please direct all communications this way.

In regard to the question that may arise of quarantine, Ramadevi and Ramavijaya travelled to the the Tata Cancer Hospital & Research Centre in Calcutta, who have strict protocols for Covid-19 screening, and no Covid-19 patients. They also returned to Mayapur via ambulance, so no quarantine is required.

Everyone please pray and chant for Ramadevi, remember her, and offer your loving support for her coming journey….

On behalf of the care team,

Braja Sevaki Devi Dasi

Mayapur

If you are grieving in these difficult times and need support, please visit us at Vaishnavas Care: Grief Support Group, a private devotee support group.

Locust Swarms Strike India (Video)


Srila Prabhupada is Your (Temporary) Guru! ISKCON IDC (Video)

YOUR GURU PADASRAYA?





ISKCON Disciple Course: Guru Padasraya

PADA: This is a little odd? Srila Prabhupada is FIRST of all the guru of the newcomers. He is the lotus feet (pada) that the new people have to take shelter of (asraya). He is the Guru padasraya, but only for a short time.

Then later, they give up worship of Srila Prabhupada and they have to start to worship a "2/3 show of hands voted in GBC guru," from an illicit sex and debauchee guru's parampara. And they then start to offer bhogha to that conditioned soul guru -- whom IDC (ISKCON Disciples Course) says may be deviating and have to be replaced. What! Where is shastra does it say we have to offer bhogha to conditioned souls, or Hanuman Croatia's pedophile guru loving lineage members like Sridhar swami?  

Worse, the GBC documents say they cannot guarantee that their gurus have any level of spiritual realization. We have to buy one of their cars, but they cannot guarantee it will not explode as we drive off the car lot? We have to take "guru padasraya" of -- an unknown quantity? Yet, we must have "absolute faith" in the unknown, non-guaranteed guru, who might deviate and have to be replaced because he is a conditioned soul? I have to have "absolute faith" in your airplane, but one of the engines is on fire? 

So we give up the shelter of the worship of the pure devotee and we worship the conditioned and defective devotee? None of this is mentioned in the Vedas? "Guru padasraya" means, taking shelter of the pure devotee, not to take shelter of false and "non-guaranteed" "asrayas."

Sulochana calls this: "bait and switch." 

We should come to lovely ISKCON and worship a guru like Srila Prabhupada, until they can replace his worship with the worship of one of their conditioned soul gurus. Of course, we also have had this same problem all along with GBC folks / Bhakti Vikas swami / Gaudiya Matha folks / Narayan Maharaja folks / Hanuman Croatia / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Rocana / Kailash et al. ... who preach the same thing. 

Yes, we CAN read Srila Prabhupada's books and accept his padasraya -- but only temporarily. He is not our actual ongoing and permanent "padasraya" shelter guru -- because worship of pure devotees ongoing is "the bogus Christian idea." 

Not to worry, we have a pocketful of nice conditioned soul deviants for you to worship instead! Bait and switch! So its forbidden to worship pure devotees more than on a temporary basis, because we have to worship various rubber stamped conditioned neophytes as gurus, duly 2/3 show of hands voted in, or otherwise rubber stamped as gurus by some sort of arbitrary certification process. 

How is that working out for you guys? 

Devotees under your plan have exited ISKCON, voted with their feet, and made it a ghost town. We have to have "implicit faith in the pada-asraya spiritual master," who might be having illicit sex in the back room, while he is drinking Vodka and watching football? Again! Where is any of this stated in the Vedas? And its odd that we have to have complete faith in both the spiritual master and Krishna simultaneously -- or the knowledge is not revealed. 

How can we have both "complete absolute faith" in mundane influenced conditioned souls posing as gurus, if not fallen and sexual predator souls, and faith in Krishna -- simultaneously? How can we mix simultaneously faith in Krishna -- with faith in -- mundane conditioned beings? I have faith in real gold coins, and gold painted plastic toy coins, simultaneously? No one thinks this makes sense? 

How can we simultaneously have "full faith" in both the GBC's contaminated and conditioned souls gurus, and pure devotees aka purified souls? This is never recommended in shastra. Worse, shastra says that we cannot juxtapose mundane influenced souls, with transcendental souls. I have faith in -- false shelter / ashraya. This is condemned in shastra. Nowhere in shastra does it say we have to take "padasraya" -- guru shelter -- in conditioned souls, who are still under the purview of the material energy. 

They are reversing the whole program! Actual process: we take shelter of the temporary preachers and Church leaders (who might be deviating and blooping) -- until we get trained to take shelter of the eternal guru. They say the opposite, we take shelter of the eternal, until we take shelter of the conditioned and temporary Church leaders. What! 

So this is guru aparadha, because it is establishing the guru as mundane, or subject to material qualities. In any event, we find no bona fide religion where the guru or acharya is worshiped temporarily until he can be replaced with a member of an illicit sex guru process. The guru is worshiped eternally as the padasraya, life after life, that is the actual process. ys pd   

Wednesday, May 27, 2020

Purujit BLISS Program Meltdown (PADA Conversation)

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2019/06/purujit-das-about-cooperation-video.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2018/07/pada-reply-to-makhanchora-das-bliss.html


PADA: Purujit is a self appointed ritvik priest, self appointed Prabhupada's books re-writer, self appointed advisor to us, self appointed master of sanskrit grammar, ooops, and Jayadvaita swami is another self appointed editor of the books? No one appointed Purujit to do anything, he is arrogant and gives the same identical book changer argument as Jayadvaita. Srila Prabhupada used the books he had -- and he approved them. And he did not approve of the idea of endless re-writes and edits.  

DD: Is Purujit still active? The Spain Fuengirola group fell apart ... The boy from Mexico caught Purujit watching porno. So it came to a conflict. And so the Tattoo guy threw him out. His staunch followers like Makhancora and Paramahamsa followed him. The Mexican and his wife went back to Mexico. Not sure what the Tattoo couple are doing now. Purujit is active on FB with another name. He is still in Spain.

PADA: Ok, so much for his big tooting his horn -- how he is our new boss. So he got kicked out of Fuengirola, that means he was arrogantly over making his status, and that is the downfall of many so-called big sadhus. "I am the most fallen and insignificant servant aka the best servant on the planet"! Heh heh heh! 


DD: He is active under the new name: "Expand the BLISS".

PADA: OK apparently in La Linea in south Spain. Anyway I wish him well, but he is too arrogant, and that means he is very neophyte. He has a long way to go. He is re-editing the books of Srila Prabhupada, and simultaneously watching porno? And he does not see how foolish that is? Or he just does not think he will be caught -- because he is more clever than the GBC?  

DD: His country admires being authoritarian. The nature to be little dictators.

KK Dasi had written me Nov 2019:

Everything started, when Purujit was caught watching porn in the temple and we pointed it out, so they were bullying us. Also Purujit is promoting a guru position for himself. He says that the initiations come from him and the other bramacharis have to follow his guru position. We have an audio of Paramahamsa saying that he doesn’t mind if Purujit contradicts Prabhupada, he would still follow him. 

When Prabhupada says -- if siksa contradicts diksa he is a demon, they don't accept. When they were coming from an Eurotrip just 3 weeks ago they were coming to destroy me and were threatening me for exposing their deviations, but when Purujit was faced about the porn issue while in the trip they backed off. 

And immediately Purujit was running to Canadá and didn’t reply about the accusations, instead Makhancora was protecting him, as he did the first time the porn issue came up 8 months ago. I asked you mataji because as it is a custom for them, they are expert in insulting real devotees like you.

i hope we are fine, Hare Krishna 

PADA: He is watching porno and being our boss, very typical of GBC style hypocrisy as well. And his group is bullying the people who are dissenters, another GBC tactic.

DD: He preaches in saffron... it is insult to the dress.

PADA: Yes, false posturing, this is another version of GBC. Like the many so called sannyasis. Awful. A devotee said, its odd that false gurus wear orange dress, and so do the usa prisoners wear orange suits. ??? 

DD: Yes...

PADA: He is guru wanna-be like gbc.

DD: Oh and he wants to be "absolute authority." Worse the Iskcon gurus.

PADA: He has not realized the actual siddhanta, or he would not be attracted to porn. Nor would he re-write the books. Anyway he is another victim of D.A.D. Deadly Acharya Disease. 

In the list of crimes of bogus devotees, watching porno is among the lower range of offenses, since at least they are not doing the hokey pokey with the ladies in the temple. The physical manhandling and exploiting of others has been done in many worse case offenders. 

However, for Purujit to want to re-write the ISKCON books takes him higher up into the list of a top offenders in our offense totem pole. That means, he thinks he can correct what the acharya has approved. And so by fate he was forced to be rejected and to have his program fail by Krishna's arrangement. Meanwhile, the Spain Tattoo guy has not been in touch with us since all this, evidently he is too embarrassed to admit he made a big mistake helping Purujit re-write the books.

Its another situation where Purujit types ruin our relationship with other devotees, and its makes the unity of the Prabhupadanugas become fractured. In any case, we hate to say "we told ya so," but hey -- we told ya so! 

We also said the Prahlad das / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur "Hitler promoting site" that they were all cramming and sending me links to -- is bogus. And a group of devotees are writing to me just now on that very topic. They agree, these people are bogus, and they are intent on giving Krishna a bad name. Told ya, ... again! ys pd