A Bhakti Vikas Swami follower wrote to PADA @ angel108b@ yahoo.com
BVKS guy started out by saying our sites are all "offensive lies."
PADA: "OK got that already. Can we agree that Krishna does not want conditioned souls worshiped as His guru successors"?
BVKS guy says, "Of course Krishna does not want that! And that is what BVKS is teaching all the time and 'without change'"!
PADA: "Well fine, can you then explain -- why there are illicit sex with men, women and children deviants, drug addicts, alcoholics, wife stealers, porno swamis and /or assorted criminals in the BVKS guru parampara? How can Krishna be pleased when all these sorts of odious folks are being promoted in the BVKS guru program as Krishna's guru successors? If the goal is to please Krishna, how can we please Him by insulting His guru parampara as fallen, defective and criminal"?
BVKS guy: "This is all lies! BVKS never promotes this"!
PADA: "OK when I was five years old, the other five years olds would argue with me, 'you are a liar.' That was not a very convincing argument to me even when I was five. Everyone knows this is not any sort of rational counterpoint whatever, its all sentimentalism, emotionalism and fanaticism. Worse, you just agreed with me that I am speaking the truth, that Krishna does not want deviants to be worshiped as His successors. You are arguing with your own shadow."
BVKS guy: "BVKS is independent of the GBC, he does not agree with them."
PADA: "OK so why has he been saying the GBC folks are Krishna's appointed guru successors? And if Krishna did not appoint them, that means BVKS did"?
BVKS guy: "No, he does not say they were appointed now."
PADA: "OK so that means he agrees with us, they are not gurus, therefore he should make a public statement: that these people are not, were not, could not have been gurus."
BVKS guy: "BVKS does not have to do what you want."
PADA: "Right, its what Krishna wants, Krishna wants people to clear His parampara's name of deviants by declaring that this whole thing is wrong."
BVKS guy: "You should talk to him then."
PADA: "BVKS does not talk to us, he only talks to them."