Thursday, August 28, 2014

RE: Radha Krishnadas Brahmachari + Caste Goswamis

RKDB: The Historical Launching of 'Caitanya Nidhi' Quarterly Hindi Magazine

A Hindi quarterly magazine of high printing calibre and solely dedicated to the preservation and propagation of the subtle intricate concepts pertaining to the theological system of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu known by the designation of ‘Caitanya-nidhi’ or ‘The Great Treasure of Lord Caitanya’ – is going to be launched from the October of 2014.

The Honourable Founder of the said journal is Gaudesvara - sampradayacarya Astottarasata Pujya Srī Pundarika Gosvami Maharaja (Shri Pundrik Goswami Ji) of historical Radharamana Temple in Vṛndavana, the worthy scion and successor hailing from the disciplic succession of Srila Gopalabhatta Gosvamipada, the eternal and contemporary associate of Srīman Mahaprabhu Krsnacaitanyadeva.

For identification purposes, the links to the photographs of the Honourable Founder and the Respected Primeval Editor-in-Chief of the said magazine are as follows -

1) Srī Pundrik Goswami Maharaja

2) Srī Radhakrishnadas Brahmachari Prabhuvara 

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PADA: OK, well great luck with your publication. We wish you well in promoting the teachings of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and we have to admit you are a genuine scholar. The first problem however is that Srila Prabhupada did not accept the modern day caste lineages of India, nor did many of the recent acharyas. The system of caste has become corrupt in India, and that is well known both in and out of India. And if you publish in Hindi only, none of us Westerners will benefit from your writings in any case. This itself seems a little caste conscious by itself.

Of course all this does not mean the Goswami caste folks are not nice people, but it may mean they are not factually pure devotees, Goswamis and /or Paramahamsas. For example, Srila Prabhupada complained that some of the caste Goswamis are married, whereas the title of Goswami normally only applies to the sannyasa order.

The devotee Radha Krishnadas Brahmacari was challenged by us for quite a long time to identify his lineage, because he was found to be posting in the apparently ISKCON GBC friendly forums. He would not, or could not, identify his line for a long time, although he did agree with us that deviants are not in any bona fide line. 

Now he has gone full on supporting the caste Goswamis, and we think that is because he realized that he could not endorse the GBC's guru lineage, despite his attraction for Vaishnavism. So the Goswamis seemed a better option. Unfortunately, we have to agree with this analysis, the Goswamis have a better program of following the Vaishnava system than most of these GBC gurus. 

So this is another symptom of the GBC's guru program, people keep going off to other programs, and the exodus continues. ys pd   
 

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Wednesday, August 27, 2014

Narasimha Prayers / Lost Prabhupada Kirtana


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Tuesday, August 26, 2014

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HKC Jaipur Secular Agenda

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PADA: Why does the HKC Jaipur (Dayalu Nitai etc.) always support and cite Prahlad das? As we have pointed out for some years now, Prahlad das supports the Illuminati web site of Mukunda das -- which advertises the DVDs of "Illuminati" speakers aka -- mostly beef eaters and animal hunters. See photo below of the Prahlad team's web site, where the Prahlad team freely mixes Srila Prabhupada's image with their beef eating speakers and authorities, painting Srila Prabhupada as approving and authorizing these bogus speakers.

Yep, some of the folks Prahlad's program advertises say we need to learn how to hunt animals -- so that when the war starts, we will be able to eat dead animals. And they are placing the names of these animal hunter promoters right along with a photo of Srila Prabhupada, making it appear that Srila Prabhupada supports animal hunting. Why is the HKC always citing and promoting the Prahlad people who are juxtaposing Srila Prabhupada's photo along with their agenda of beef eating speakers and using guns for animal slaughter?

And Prahlad's program is also selling the DVDs of his beef eating speakers as his authorities, to brain wash the poor masses with their hideous propaganda. Where does Srila Prabhupada tell us to promote beef eating speakers? And why are they using a photo of Srila Prabhupada to promote their beef eating and animal hunting agenda? And why has the HKC Jaipur promoted Prahlad das, despite their knowing FULL WELL from us, and from looking at their site, that Prahlad is supporting this Illuminati web site and its agenda, and its beef eating authorities?

In short, why is the HKC Jaipur promoting Prahlad's program which is placing Srila Prabhupada's photo together with mostly beef eaters, animal hunters and so forth? The HKC agenda seems to be: making it look like Srila Prabhupada promotes and endorses these mostly beef eater speakers, if not animal hunting speakers and so forth. Of course, Srila Prabhupada says if we promote someone as our speaker and our authority, we have made him our de facto guru.

Why is the HKC Jaipur promoting Prahlad, and thus, his beef eating and animal hunting folks program, as their de facto gurus / authorities? And the HKC Jaipur is promoting this program's leaders like Prahlad, who told us they are "getting lots of hits" on their beef eating speakers programs, so its bona fide. Well yes, and making beef stew recipe web sites also get lots of hits!

These Prahlad people, who are making money selling their beef eater and animal hunter folks DVDs, and making these Illuminati folks into some sort of gurus / higher authorities, are the HKC folks heros and leaders, the people who represent the HKC? And worse, the HKC / Prahlad team are using an image of Srila Prabhupada for their dubious "fund raising" program. Of course they criticize feeding the poor with VEGETARIAN FARE, but eating beef and hunting animals / and promoting this agenda as authorities / speakers are what THEY ADVERTISE as their speakers / authorities / de facto gurus!



[Conversation condensed and edited for brevity, since these guys keep repeating themselves, i.e. anyone who does not support their juxtaposing Srila Prabhupada's photo with beef eaters is bogus.]

Ashish Kumar: See Prahlad das site.

PADA: OK. Right, lets look at a web site above that Prahlad promotes. Why does Ashish Kumar promote Prahlad, knowing full well that Prahlad promotes this Mukunda Illuminati program? OK and that program uses the names of mundane people mixed with Srila Prabhupada's photo? In addition, Prahlad is also citing Bhakta das on his site, and Bhakta das supports Radhanatha swami. Why doesn't Ashish know that we cannot promote Radhanath groupies in the Prabhupadanuga program?

Why are the HKC with Prahlad's program of promoting the GBC's spokemen and sympathizers like Bhakta Das, and various crack pot Illuminati-ites mixed with photos of Srila Prabhupada etc.? And the Prahlad folks are selling the DVDs of these Illuminati speakers to make money.

This means they are exploiting Srila Prabhupada and Krishna for their commercial money making BUSINESS, never mind mixing Srila Prabhupada with Illuminati "gurus" which simply exploits and confuses the poor public. Why doesn't the HKC join us in opposing this foolishness, instead they are promoting the number one cheer leader of this agenda, Prahlad das? Even the GBC is not mixing beef eating speaking with a photo of Srila Prabhupada to make money. This is how to make money? And the HKC is supporting the main henchman / promoter of this web site? Why?

Ashish Kumar so hope all devotees have understood PADA's mental situation. Be careful, Hari Bol

PADA: Saying deviants are not gurus is "mental illness," that is what Kirtananada said. Why is Ashish always quoting Kirtanananda? Sorry, we are right, deviants and homosexuals are not gurus. This is not mental illness, its a fact. As soon as we say deviants and homosexuals are not acharyas, Prahlad's team says that is mental illness, its offensive, a deviation, and that is how these people have de facto supported the molester gurus all along, they attack anyone who opposes deviant gurus as "mentally ill."

Prahlad says our attacks on the molester gurus is wrong, we should listen to supporters of Radhanath like Bhakta das. And Radhanath just buried Kirtanananda in the holy dham. Why does the Prahlad's team support the Radhanath groupies program, which means they support burying dead molesters in the holy dham? Meanwhile the Prahlad team opposes our idea of making a temple for Prabhupada in Vrndavana. Only Kirtanananda deserves a place in Vrndavana?

Why is the HKC supporting and even citing Radhanatha's groupies like Bhakta das? HKC leaders like Dayalu nitai wrote and told me that since the courts of India are supporting the GBC's guru program and their lawsuits in the courts, we also have to accept. We did not lie, the HKC folks just wrote that again recently. So we should write now -- that the HKC says -- anyone who does not accept homosexuals and molesters are gurus is a psycho, because the courts accept?

Ashish Kumar Here is HKC: http://harekrishnacommunity.blogspot.in/.../srila...

PADA: OK, so the official position of HKC is that homosexuals are gurus, because they courts allow and approve of that agenda? OK we will quote you ... We also have written evidence, HKC leaders like Dayalu nitai wrote and told me that since the courts of India are supporting the GBC's guru program and their lawsuits in the courts, we also have to accept. We did not lie, they just wrote that again recently. So -- we have to accept homosexual gurus and their lawsuits?

Ashish Kumar: Listen to Prahlad (PADA: because he merges Srila Prabhupada with beef eater speakers)?

PADA: Why doesn't HKC know that homosexuals are not acharyas, never mind courts approve homosexual acharya programs?

Suren Singh Why are you repeating same distorted lies again and again ?

PADA: Sorry, you are citing Prahlad, who is quoting the Bhakta das, Radhanatha pogram. And Prahlad supports the Illuminati beef eater and animal hunting speakers program, as we have shown many times here. Why does the HKC cite Prahlad, knowing full well he supports this Illuminati program, and he has for years together?

Ashish Kumar PADA lie , you are already exposed. CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. Understand

PADA: This is not a lie, Dayalu Nitai wrote to tell me he supports the courts, the same courts that support the homosexual acharyas program.

Ashish Kumar Suren Singh prabhu, this is PADAs old disease

PADA: HKC leadership wrote that also recently, that they accept the karmi laws

Ashish Kumar he he he

PADA: The laws says the homosexual acharyas programs are bona fide, why does the HKC support that?

Suren Singh High court had given the judgement against I.B not HKC. !!!

PADA: And you HKC said you support the courts -- the same court that support the homosexual acharyas program? This is what you HKC said all along ...

Ashish Kumar PADA go away.

PADA: And Dayalu nitai says we have to accept the courts, and the courts accept homosexual acharyas. Why doesn't HKC know homosexuals are not acharyas, even if the court approves? Why does Dayalu Nita accept homosexual acharyas and their courts? HKC leaders like Dayalu nitai wrote and told me that since the courts of India are supporting the GBC's guru program and their lawsuits in the courts, we also have to accept. We did not lie, they just wrote that again recently. So -- we have to accept?

Ashish Kumar Something more "glorious" about PADA, go ask Prahlad.

Suren Singh Again , according to pada's logic , If A=B and B=C, then A must be Z

PADA: Yep, (A) You HKC said your supported Prahlad and the courts, (B) you repeated that, (C) you repeated that, all the way to (Z) you repeated that.

HKC leaders like Dayalu nitai wrote and told me that since the courts of India are supporting the GBC's guru program and their lawsuits in the courts, we also have to accept. We did not lie, they just wrote that again recently.

PADA: Why does HKC support homosexual gurus and their courts?

Suren Singh Again , according to pada's logic , If A=B and B=C, then A must be Z

PADA: Yes, Dayalu nitai said we have to accept the courts. Anyway, we do not accept your homosexual acharya courts ...

Suren Singh It is actually ISKCON Bangalore and iskCON GBC who are accepting the court's authority. Both groups are paying millions to the demoniac courts.

[PADA: So if the homosexual gurus are in court, we should not oppose them. Why does the HKC support that homosexuals should be the legal gurus of India?]

Suren Singh So PADA please answer this question why ISKCON banglore is following the court and paying millions, if they dont accept the court ??

[PADA: Ok so if the homosexuals take you to court, you will surrender to the court and accept that homosexuals are gurus. That means you have surrendered to the court. Now you are also saying, we should not establish Srila Prabhupada in the courts, that means you want the homosexuals to be established in the courts. Why do you want the homosexuals to win in the courts?

Ashish Kumar Ohhooooo, this Tim is quite attached to homosexual, you see.

[PADA: Well so far you HKC are supporting homosexual gurus by saying you do not want them opposed in the courts, that is when you are not supporting animal killing Illuminati programs. We should not fight the homosexual acharyas, they should win!  I am quoting you. OK so thats final, you support the homosexual acharyas court and do not want Srila Prabhupada defended in court. ys pd]

Monday, August 25, 2014

Mahesh Raja's Quotes on Temple Buildings

PADA: Thanks Mahesh Raja for compiling these quotes!]

"PADA: Thanks for your question prabhu, why are people opposing Srila Prabhupada having his own temple in Vrndavana like the GBC / HKC / Prahlad / Janardana / Prabhupadanugas eu folks? This is very astonishing if you think about it! We have an India saint, a pure devotee no less, whose whole siddhanta comes from Vrndavana. He loved Vrndavana, he wanted people to come visit Vrndavana, he lived a big part of his life in Vrndavana, and he wanted to build places of Krishna worship in Vrndavana — so that at the very least HIS OWN FOLLOWERS could have a place to visit there."

Mahesh: This is EQUALLY a VALID point. The only thing that concerns me is the BIG structures HAVE been under attack before. There is TWO ways of looking at the BIG Temple project:

1) Would Srila Prabhupada want it

2) What would happen in War

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So this church building or temple building or mosque building is coming down from time immemorial. People are investing their money, hard-earned money. Why? Uselessly? Nonproductive? No. They do not know. They do not know how much productive that is. Therefore in this Godless civilization they have stopped building nice, decorated temples...

IN VRNDAVANA THERE IS A TEMPLE OF GOVINDAJI THAT WAS SEVEN-STORIED. FOUR STORIES WAS BROKEN BY AURANGZEB ON POLITICAL GROUNDS. STILL, THREE STORIES ARE STILL REMAINING. IF SOMEBODY GOES THERE HE'LL SEE HOW WONDERFUL WORKMANSHIP IS THERE IN THAT TEMPLE. 

So does it mean that those kings or rich men, they were all fools? Simply at the present moment we are very intelligent? No. They are not fools. That is explained in the Prahlada Maharaja's prayers. Naivatmanah prabhur ayam nija-labha-purno. You cannot satisfy the Supreme Lord by constructing a nice temple, but still He is satisfied. Still, He is satisfied. He is nija-labha-purno. He is fully satisfied in Himself because He has no want. We are in want. SUPPOSE I AM RENTING ONE SMALL APARTMENT. IF SOMEBODY SAYS, "SWAMIJI, COME ON. I SHALL CONSTRUCT A VERY NICE PALATIAL TEMPLE. YOU COME HERE." OH, I SHALL BE VERY MUCH OBLIGED.

[PADA COMMENT: Right, building big temples has gone on since time immemorial. Of course Krishna does not need any house, but if we give Him one, He is obliged in appreciation to us. So, why should we give Krishna only a small apartment, why not make Him a palatial building? 

We simply cannot understand why some people are saying we need to make only a small place for Krishna, when many of the temples in South India (for example) are huge buildings, made under the auspices of the Vaishnava acharyas like Madhvacarya and others. 

Big temples have been made since time immemorial, it is the standard for the past billions of years. Even the Christians make huge Churches, big Vatican castles and so on, to glorify God. The Buddhists have made big buildings, the Muslims make big Mosques, ... its done universally all over the planet. I am not sure why this process is not understood by some so-called vaishnavas?] 

Madhya 17.86 The Lord Travels to Vrndavana
This Bindu Madhava is the oldest Visnu temple in Varanasi. Presently this temple is known as Veni Madhava, and it is situated on the banks of the Ganges. Formerly five rivers converged there, and they were named Dhutapapa, Kirana, Sarasvati, Ganga and Yamuna. Now only the River Ganges is visible. THE OLD TEMPLE OF BINDU MADHAVA, WHICH WAS VISITED BY SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU, WAS LATER DISMANTLED BY AURANGZEB, THE GREAT HINDU-HATING EMPEROR OF THE MOGUL DYNASTY. IN THE PLACE OF THIS TEMPLE, HE CONSTRUCTED A BIG MAJIDA, OR MOSQUE. 

Later, another temple was constructed by the side of the mosque, and this temple is still existing. In the temple of Bindu Madhava there are Deities of four-handed Narayana and the goddess Laksmi. In front of these Deities is a column of Sri Garuda, and along the side are deities of Lord Rama, Sita, Laksmana and Sri Hanumanji.

Note: the masses of India are very much into BIG set-ups, and if they are going to put money into drinking establishments /cinemas etc, best to put into a Temple instead. This is one PRO argument. And Srila Prabhupada DID encourage centers and temples to be built.

760803r2.par IF SOME FOUR, FIVE CENTERS LIKE THIS THERE ARE IN EUROPE, THE WHOLE FACE WILL BE CHANGED. IMPORTANT PLACES LIKE GERMANY, FRANCE, ENGLAND. NOW WE ARE GETTING PLACE. I LIKE THAT PLACE, GERMAN, ON ACCOUNT OF THIS. IT HAS GOT SCOPE.

[PADA: Clearly Srila Prabhupada wanted prominent buildings in prominent places, Vrndavana is certainly a prominent place.]

Note:THEREFORE TEMPLE CONSTRUCTION IS NOT BAD, PROVIDED PROPER CARE IS TAKEN FOR THE PROPAGATION OF KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS.
SB 7.15.21 P Instructions for Civilized Human Beings
For spiritual advancement, one should be materially satisfied, for if one is not materially satisfied, his greed for material development will result in the frustration of his spiritual advancement. There are two things that nullify all good qualities. One is poverty. Daridra-doso guna-rasi-nasi. If one is poverty-stricken, all his good qualities become null and void. Similarly, if one becomes too greedy, his good qualifications are lost. Therefore the adjustment is that one should not be poverty-stricken, but one must try to be fully satisfied with the bare necessities of life and not be greedy. For a devotee to be satisfied with the bare necessities is therefore the best advice for spiritual advancement. Learned authorities in devotional life consequently advise that one not endeavor to increase the number of temples and mathas. Such activities can be undertaken only by devotees experienced in propagating the Krsna consciousness movement. ALL THE ACARYAS IN SOUTH INDIA, ESPECIALLY SRI RAMANUJACARYA, CONSTRUCTED MANY BIG TEMPLES, AND IN NORTH INDIA ALL THE GOSVAMIS OF VRNDAVANA CONSTRUCTED LARGE TEMPLES. SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI THAKURA ALSO CONSTRUCTED LARGE CENTERS, KNOWN AS GAUDIYA MATHAS. THEREFORE TEMPLE CONSTRUCTION IS NOT BAD, PROVIDED PROPER CARE IS TAKEN FOR THE PROPAGATION OF KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. EVEN IF SUCH ENDEAVORS ARE CONSIDERED GREEDY, THE GREED IS TO SATISFY KRSNA, AND THEREFORE THESE ARE SPIRITUAL ACTIVITIES.

[PADA: Yep, the Vaishnava acharyas are organizing big buildings for Krishna since two trillion BC.]

Note:TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT CONSTRUCTING TOO MANY BIG TEMPLES, BECAUSE OUR ATTENTION MAY BE DIVERTED TOWARD MATERIAL THINGS.
JSD 3.3 Krsna, Enchanter of the Soul
OUR PURPOSE IS NOT TO CONSTRUCT BIG, BIG BUILDINGS, ALTHOUGH THAT IS SOMETIMES REQUIRED FOR SPREADING KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS AND FOR GIVING SHELTER TO PEOPLE. BUT OUR MAIN BUSINESS IS TO TURN THE FACES OF THE BEWILDERED CONDITIONED SOULS TOWARD KRSNA. THAT IS OUR MAIN PURPOSE. THEREFORE BHAKTIVINODA THAKURA AND OTHER VAISNAVAS HAVE WARNED US TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT CONSTRUCTING TOO MANY BIG TEMPLES, BECAUSE OUR ATTENTION MAY BE DIVERTED TOWARD MATERIAL THINGS. IN OTHER WORDS, WE MAY BECOME FORGETFUL OF KRSNA.

[PADA: Of course, we should be careful of material things, because possession of buildings, money, followers and assets can become an entanglement for neophyte devotees. That is also why the Catholic church became so corrupt in Medieval times, there was a desire for control of the assets, and it became a sort of religious business -- as Martin Luther pointed out. 

That is also why the Gaudiya Matha failed, they became interested in the assets and forgot about the preaching. All that is fine, at the same time, we cannot stop everything being fearful that some folks will be overwhelmed by the assets of the mission? 

We have big, big billionaires like Bill Gates, he has huge buildings, massive amounts of money, tens of thousands of workers (de facto followers) and so on, but he is not overwhelmed because he has some basic humility and proper perspective. Having huge assets can be done, and its being done even by people like Bill Gates every day, its just needs to be done in the proper mood. 

Preaching in any case requires money, followers, buildings, book printing operations, assets and so forth. The question we have raised over they years is, why are the people who criticize the Bangalore program for making a temple in Vrndavana, not building any temple in Vrndavana themselves since 1977? These folks are also not building anything in the UK, where some of their spokesmen come from. 

IN ANY CASE! There has to be some building made for Srila Prabhupada's exclusive worship in Vrndavana, and if Bangalore should not build it, who will? The answer since 1977 seems to be, no one. If there is not going to be any temple for the exclusive worship of Srila Prabhupada in Vrndavana that is: (A) a severe offense and (B) its what Tamal always wanted, he wanted GBC's guru temples there only. ys pd  

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PADA: San Francisco Rathayatra is always interesting. In the past we have always had a few big shot GBC gurus, and maybe Tripurari swami, and maybe Narayana maharaja people walking around distributing their books, and maybe a few others like them, but this year these folks did not appear. There was instead, a pretty good mood of focus on Srila Prabhupada. We really did not see much "show boating" from any of these self-appointed acharyas this time around, and that was really refreshing.

Basically we had: (A) Vaisesika's crew from San Jose, (B) ISKCON Berkeley temple folks, (C) Various ritviks, and (D) A small group from the Fremont Hindu temple. Of course we also had the (smaller sized) ISKCON LA rath cars and the Prabhupada Festival folks from North Carolina.

The good news is that the ISKCON leaders are finally getting smart enough to know they cannot sit around in big seats and try to hi-jack the Srila Prabhupada programs anymore, people are tired of that, especially around here. More and more people just want to glorify Srila Prabhupada, and we noticed that all the "guru mantra" kirtans were being done to him exclusively. OK it is more and more like the good old (1970s) days. Good progress.

I think its finally starting to sink in to some of the GBC's management -- they need to work with some of the ritviks -- at least some of the time -- for a festival like this, or else risk that there will not be enough people to manage the program. So its sort of a marriage of convenience that all these people come together, ok for once a year at least, knowing that everyone has to join forces or there may not be any festival at all. In other words, the GBC's program is not strong enough by itself to do things like this on their own anymore, and there are not enough ritviks as of yet to do a complete program either.

Its sort of a stalemate in that sense. However it is more and more noticed by many of us -- that the lectures, announcements, guru mantras and so forth are very much SRILA PRABHUPADA CENTERED. For example, one of the ladies doing the bhajan made an announcement that this bhajan was one of Srila Prabhupada's, and so on. The San Jose folks were also handing out little packets of Srila Prabhupada's small books, and so there were a lot of public people walking around with these packets of Srila Prabhupada's books.

We really did not see the "living guru" book tables this year, which was a really good sign of progress. Without making a direct admission from the GBC, the GBC's guru program is rather self-apparently slowly fading out and the Srila Prabhupada program is coming back, slow but sure. It seems to be finally dawning on them that either they emphasize Srila Prabhupada, or they may end up with nothing, of course they barely have anything left at this stage already.

Sunnyvale's Prabhupadanuga folks -- on the other hand -- for the most part simply avoided coming at all because they are not too happy that the GBC is suing the Prabhupada devotees in India. This is really a shame because they have some very talented people who could do a lot to make the festival a greater success. So their financial and manpower help will be absent until the GBC makes some reconciliation with this group. Of course, their own programs and festivals are already very successful and they really do not need to form a cooperative alliance with the GBC.

Most of the people talking to us were asking about the status of the Bangalore court case. Just about everyone is watching that case around here, and the clear consensus is that the San Francisco devotees want Bangalore to win. People were saying things like, "When are all these GBC guru bums going to be where they really belong -- on Patala loka? We can hardly wait for the Yamaduttas to cart them off!; When are all these bogus gurus going to get a real job?; When are all these bogus gurus going to quit kicking us all out, harassing us?" and so on. OK nobody came up and said, we are rooting for the GBC's gurus! Yep, locally they appear to be about as popular as the black plague. A few people also told me, yep, the poison case is real.

One devotee who used to be very prominent in ISKCON told us how he is retired but does not have dental insurance, so he has to struggle to get his teeth fixed. Its very painful waiting to get them fixed -- one at a time. When I told him the GBC was spending $20,000,000 suing the Prabhupadanugas, he almost fainted. He said, "You mean I have to struggle in pain with hardly any money, and fix one tooth at a time while being in pain with the other bad teeth -- while these GBC guru guys pour dump truck loads of money into the sewer"? I said, "Yup! You got it, that's their plan all along"!

Everyone is amazed that the GBC is wasting all this money on lawyers so they can kick out the very few people left in ISKCON. I told him that several GBC temples have rats, and again that is apparently another part of their entire plan all along: they want to make sure that more and more and more temples have rats, and its apparently very expensive to make sure the temples are filled with rodents and not people, indeed it costs millions of dollars to drive out all these people. No wonder they are always asking for more funds!

An ex-kuli said he was not happy that there is no place for him and his friends in ISKCON. He has a karmi job and he is happy to have any job at all these days when its tight to find one. I also told him the GBC is spending millions to drive more people like you out, and he could not believe how cruel and foolish they are. He also said "I will be the first person to come out and dance on their graves." I said, "No, you'll have to race with thousands of others, you'll have to be fast to be the first." He laughed hysterically. Its hard to believe how the GBC could not know how badly they have alienated all these thousands and thousands of people?

Of course there were also a lot of general high fives from people who are encouraged our program is progressing.  Overall, it was a great festival because the living gurus were conspicuous by their absense and the focus on Srila Prabhupada was very strong. One devotee has made a dramatic health improvement and he said that is because Krishna wanted him to see the better Prabhupadanuga mood changes in ISKCON. That is the trend and tendency, more and more people want to see Srila Prabhupada given his rightful place, and it is developing that way.

Its getting harder to see any difference from the 1970s Rathayatras and this one. And all this is the result of the hard work of many Prabhupadanugas all over the world -- who have made these issues change by their preaching. OK, they forced the issues. So, this is what we wanted to see happen and its happening by Krishna's grace. We are sorry some of us had to often use the "buzz saw chopper technique" to get some of these things fixed or changed, or even addressed, but the results are promising, and that is all that really matters to us. We have to judge a thing by the result, and the result clearly is, Srila Prabhupada is re-emerging as the acharya of ISKCON. Goody! Anyway, here are a few photos from the event: ys pd

Looking good!

Park Ranger Security Forces Getting ready for the march

Well done!

Sunday, August 24, 2014

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ISKCON Bangalore vs Critics Update

The Hon'ble President of India Shri Pranab Mukherjee and briefed about Chandrodaya Temple Vrindavan . Construction has already begun on the auspicious day of Sri Krishna Janmashtami.
PADA: Dear HKC prabhu, The fact is, it requires money to make a temple, a farm, even to set up a tent sized temple requires some funds, or to do anything else. Srila Prabhupada said "It requires manpower, land, capital and organization to do anything."

Madhu Pandit das / ISKCON Bangalore are getting money because they have made a formula to get some funds and thus -- to build something. Whereas people like HKC hero Deena Bandhu are saying this IB Vrndavana temple is no good, ok fine but SINCE 1977 he always hangs out with the GBC (bogus gurus) at their temples. And he still does, notice the photo below!

Similarly, HKC hero Prahlad das quotes Bhakta das, who also hangs out with the GBC's gurus program, and their program glorifies Radhanath swami as the messiah of the jagat. Why are these guys always in bed with Radhanath's groupies? Prahlad's pals also opposed our lawsuit to get original books, opposed our lawsuit to save the children, and said we are "mad fools" when we introduced the poison issue.

That is EXACTLY what the GBC gurus party said? And now they are quoting the GBC's lawsuit as their authority. worse, they have taken up Jayadvaita's argument that Akshaya Patra is "mundane welfare work." Even if we have some mundane welfare work going on, meanwhile you people have no work of any type in Vrndavana going on, neither mudane, sattva, rajas, tamas, no nothing? Nothing except, hanging with the GBC's good ole boys club?     

In sum, your "we" seems to be always hanging with the bogus messiahs program, while giving us cheap armchair quarterback advice. Rocana does the same thing, gives us cheap advice while he has no temple at all, and he hangs out with the GBC's guru folks. Why has your "we" program never even made even a tent in Vrndavana for Srila Prabhupada? This is all cheap talk, "we should have a farm not a temple." We whom? 

Where are the "we"? Where is the farm in Vrndavana of this alleged "we"? Where is even their tent in Vrndavana? Its all cheap talk. "We should have a farm, we should have this, we should have that." Well go do what MPD does, raise some funds and build something! So far Prahlad has not been able to even make a pup tent sized temple in UK. Where is his tent? You guys do not even have a tent in Vrndavana either? Your folks instead hang out with the GBC guru program while offering cheap shots at others, that is what the GBC goondas have done all along, you are behaving like them, talking like them, citing them, and hanging out with them, because, you are them? Or what? 

I also should have a million dollars in my bank account. Guess what? Its not there? Your so-called "we" has no temple in Vrndavana AT ALL, its not there, your farm is not there, you have not produced anything there since 1977 except cheap talk and bluff., and no small amount of hanging out with the GBC gurus at their temples, and no small amount of harassing the Prabhupadanuga's for their attempts to do at least something! 

What WE DO HAVE FOR SURE -- is this: people like Deena Bandhu, Prahlad and his pal Bhakta das going to hang out with the ISKCON temple's GBC guru's people, and glorifying people like Radhanath. These "we" will never make anything in Vrndavana, and meanwhile the people you folks hang out with made a samadhi for Kirtanananda. that is all your "we" has accomplished since 1977, hanging out with these fools. 

Vrndavana does not need to be modernized, we never said it did? This is a straw man argument, we are not going to make it modern, we are making a ancient style temple like they have in south India, the oldest temples in India. So you guys continue what you are doing, go hang out with the GBC at their place. If you want a farm, start with a tent, make anything, just do it! ys pd

PADA: This is where the HKC "we" hang out, this is their hero Deenabandhu with his GBC guru pals. This is HKC Jaipur and Prahlad's best pal. The boot lickers of the bogus messiahs, that is the "we" they are always talking about.


* Modern Temple design or MOST ancient temple? BIG TEMPLES are the standard for India since THOUSANDS OF YEARS. Srila Prabhupada said Krishna is the most important person so he deserves the most important big building, which is why we got the skyscraper in Manhattan. Meanwhile you folks do not want ANY TEMPLE for Srila Prabhupada in Vrndavana and you attack anyone who wants one there? You do not want Srila Prabhupada to be worshiped as the acharya in the hoy dham? That is the result of your sypmathy for the GBC's gurus program!

* Better to have no temple for Srila Prabhupada? 

* What is the HKC Jaipur / Rocana / Bhakta das / Janardan / Prabhupadanuga eu "we" point? Their point is simple, they are hanging out with the GBC gurus and their people, quoting GBC guru  people, etc. For example their hero Janardan hangs out at New Vrndavana, that is their example of how to do things? Hang out with Radhanath and Kirtanananda's groupies? Sheesh!

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Saturday, August 23, 2014

Yoga For Troubled Neighborhoods

Vyas Puja Poem by Gauranga Sundara das

A Poem by me
My eternal gratitude to our Srila Prabhupad
Giving a home with dance and songs of a loving God
-------------------- Hearing of God's kingdom, where the Lord is only a boy
Having a Mata and Pita and girlfriends who are full of joy
-------------------- Always making tasty arrangements for THAT BOY's pleasure they seek
This is a world of love and devotion given to the surrendered and the meek
-------------------- To be in such a world where everything is always fresh and new
A place where everything is based on love for THAT BOY so true
--------------------It's a place that's worth the price, for it's all and more than we desire
A pure, all enjoying, perfect and complete, a place where we never tire
-------------------- For it's filled with devotion and love for the Source of all that be
Fir the Gopis, Gopalas and pure devotees, it's THAT BOY, yes, only He!
-------------------- THAT BOY who is the supreme Lord in all places below and above
He is conquered by love and love alone - that is what Sri Radha's made of
-------------------- She loves THAT BOY so much so that THAT BOY is sold out to her heart
Their love binds Them so well together, it's hard to tell Them apart
-------------------- That is the real world with our real lovers, Jaya Sri Radha Syam!
While begging for this mercy, take up with this Hari Nam
-------------------- So beg dear sisters and brothers with all your heart and soul
To get this loving mercy and to be freed from death's toll
-------------------- It's how we get this mercy from this Boyish loving God
My eternal gratitude to our Srila Prabhupad!
Vyasa Puja Offering to Srila Prabhupada
Dear Srila Prabhupada,
Please accept my respectful obeisances.

Today I am reflecting upon your causeless mercy. You have roamed the world collecting the broken glass of our worthless lives. Lord Caitanya has commissioned you for this miraculously task.
O most merciful Srila Prabhupada, you are repeatedly impressing upon us the intense urgency for Krsna consciousness. You clearly see the tragic waste of human lives as the world’s population rushes into the jaws of death.
At times you humbly appeal to us with the tearful pleas of a loving mother. At another time you may expose our ignorance with the roar of a lion. You have shown us how to utilize all that Lord Krsna has created, to awaken sleeping souls from the slumber of illusion. The world is addicted to drinking the poison of material enjoyment. You have given us the opportunity to realize, in this very life, Krsna, the embodiment of all rasas.
When will we wholeheartedly respond to your urgent call? Life is passing quite rapidly. How intensely are we calling out the holy names? How faithfully are we studying your sacred books? How determined are we to preach your mission to suffering humanity? How lovingly are we serving your beloved servants?
O Srila Prabhupada, you have entrusted us with the integrity of your divine legacy. I pray with all my heart that in a spirit of genuine humility we may be united in serving your sweet will. In pleasing you we will find shelter in the dust of your lotus feet. Let that dust be our ultimate aspiration, birth after birth.
Praying to become your faithful servant,
Gauranga Sundar Dasa

Vyas Puja from Daivi Shakti Dasi

How to find the way to properly glorify Srila Prabhupada and how articulate the gratitude to His Divine Grace? How express feelings of love when know that those feelings are impure and not worthy of such great personality? Who am I and what have I done to even address His Name in connection with mine? I can only as humble as possible present how His Divine Grace, out of His unconditional, causeless mercy, entered my life.

The story is as follows:
When I was a girl between 4-5 years old I was painting alone in a hallway of my parent's home. Suddenly I have remebered how I died in my past life. I passed trought the whole expirience of dying, I felt fear and pain and everything and I remembered me begging the Lord for just one more day to finish the process and surrender. 

But there was a clear voice that told me that this life is over, and in the next life time I'll get new opportunity. When this vision stopped I was confused and scared about the above explanation. I did not have any idea to what I wanted to surrender to and what I wanted to finish? And above all I was afraid that in this life time I would not be able to find exactly the same way. 

Knowing well that there is nobody around me to whom I could tell what just happened, I was still sitting alone in a fear. Than I had another vision, an elderly, beautiful, kind, male person appeared just for the second to tell me "to find your way in this life time is assured for you". I have never told anyone about this and years passed by. I entered my 19th year. I was pretty enough, had a nice life, many friends, nice home, own car, good boy friend who was a doctor...but I was empty inside all the time.

Than I got an opportunity to buy a Bhagavad Gita. I bought 2 of them, one for me, and one for my mother. We started reading it the very same day and did not stop until we fnished reading the whole book. It took 4 days. We started chanting (wrongly) and less than a month Christmas eve came. About midnight on that Chrismas eve, me and my mother (later Bahlika devi dasi) were walking home trough the streets covered with snow. 

Snow was falling down and night was beautiful. Than she asked me "Dina, what is you final decision? How are you going to live from now on? What about KC you have just discovered?" And, most foolish me, answered: "Right now I am not going to surrender to this, but later through my whole life, me and my future husband are going to support KC." 

My mother was satisfied and we entered our home. Before sleeping we had tea together and each of us went to our rooms. At 3:15 in the morning, on that very same night while I was deeply sleeping, I heard someone calling me "Dina, Dina, Dina.." I opened my eyes scared, and than I saw again a beautiful, kind, elderly man standing next to my bed. He had an orange outfit and a big orange shawl over His shoulders. He told me: "I came to tell you that such decision you made was made in your previous life time. This is the life when you have to surrender!" And then He left. I got up of my bad and start packing my things. I left my whole life at 4.15 that very same night. In the temple, later on, I saw the pictures of Srila Prabhupada and I recognized Him. A beautiful, kind, eldery man in orange outfit!

Court Rules Against LA ISKCON

http://www.metnews.com/articles/2014/lax082114.htm

Ninth Circuit Upholds City’s Ban on Soliciting Donations at LAX

[PADA: Its amazing to us that the GBC's devotees are still trying to milk the airports after all this time, and they have not learned to get some traditional harinama going on and etc. As one devotee said, the only time anyone sees a Hare Krishna devotee anymore is at the airport, if they are seen at all. Devotees are not seen these days doing harinama etc. And the devotees at the airport are disguised and not recognized as devotees, so really, people are barely ever seeing Hare Krishnas anytime, anywhere. That is the result of the GBC's "living guru" program, they have driven the movement underground. ys pd]