Thursday, July 28, 2016

Hrdayananda Swami's "Guru Reform" Paper Pt. 2

Prabhupada’s Will and the GBC

The first article of Prabhupada’s final Declaration of Will states that “the Governing Body Commission (GBC) will be the ultimate managing authority of the entire International Society for Krishna consciousness.”

[PADA: I actually asked Hrdayananda where it is stated that 11 gurus were appointed by Srila Prabhupada, and he told me "its in the (last) will." I told him -- I had read "the will" and there is no appointment of 11 gurus found there, and he was shocked that I had even seen the will. They hid these documents and I had to get my copy of "the will" out of Hansadutta's safe at the temple. I made photocopies and everyone who got a copy agreed, they had not ever seen the will. Why was Hrdayananda's party hiding these documents?] 

Prabhupada often warned his disciples not to follow the tragic example of the Gauḍīya Maṭha which disintegrated because Prabhupada’s Godbrothers did not follow their Guru’s order to form a GBC.

[PADA: Right, the Gaudiya Matha made false acharyas, and Hrdayananda's team did the same thing, and the ISKCON GBC even went to Sridhara Maharaja for advice, knowing he is the founder of the Gaudiya Matha's false guru deviation. Dissenters to the 1936 false acharyas were beaten and killed, and some dissenters to Hrdayananda's false gurus were also beaten and killed. Later on after 1936, the Gaudiya Matha folks started a sort of guru voting type process, and Hrdayananda's group started the same exact guru voting system. 

Some of the Gaudiya Matha's gurus were homosexuals, and so were some of the GBC's. Of course, since most of the GBC's gurus were from a much more degraded Western origin than folks born as brahmanas and so forth in India, Hrdayananda's program had far worse false acharya's results -- like child molesting, drug taking gurus, illicit sex with men, women and children gurus, and so on, because the Western culture would make far worse false acharyas. 

Since Hrdayananda knew all along that we were not supposed to introduce these deviations, he is criminally liable for creating these same deviations, and he will thus be judged for promoting such mayhem heavily in the courts of Yamaraja. As Srila Prabhupada says, the post of GBC is very responsible and if its misused "as the post is great so the punishment for misuse is also very great."  

So, these so-called GBC people created an illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs program, which bans, beats and kills vaishnavas, molests vaishnava children, and creates a huge criminal infrastructure, so we can hardly imagine the punishments that await the participants in these deviations, never mind they also ruined the name of Krishna all over the planet which is itself a severe aparadha -- because its turning millions of people away from Krishna. And that is why Srila Prabhupada says these veda vada rata false guru people go to the darkest, dankest, most horrible destinations after they leave their bodies, because they have thrown others into darkness. As Sulochana said, "they showed no mercy to us, so they will not get any from the higher authority."] 

"Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, at the time of his departure, requested all his disciples to form a governing body and conduct missionary activities cooperatively. He did not instruct a particular man to become the next acarya. But just after his passing away, his leading secretaries made plans, without authority, to occupy the post of acarya, and they split in…factions over who the next acarya would be.” [CC 1.12.8-10 Purport]

[PADA: Fantastic, so the GBC knew all along that they had no authority to make these false acharyas and create factions, beatings, mass molesting, murders etc. as happened in the Gaudiya Matha's false guru system.They knowingly acted sinfully. They knew this was sinful the whole while! That saves Lord Yamaraja a whole lot of work, he does not even have to ask them if they knew they were wrong to create these bogus acharya factions, they knew it all along! So this is called knowingly acting sinfully.] 

Prabhupada himself diligently developed the GBC system in ISKCON, after introducing it in 1970. Given the dissolution of the Gauḍīya Maṭha, and Prabhupada’s personal crafting of the GBC to prevent history from repeating itself, it is natural that ISKCON has always aimed its radar at any possible challenge to the GBC system.

[PADA: So that is the first thing the 11 did in 1978, they declared that the 11 are now "the acharya board" and the acharya board is now the superior entity over the GBC, effectively dismantling the overall GBC. Simultaneously, the acharya board declared that the Gaudiya Matha and its leaders are the new ISKCON advisors, shiksha gurus, and main "new" authority to ISKCON. 

So the 11 made the founders of the illicit sex guru program from 1936 the de facto shiksha gurus for the entire society, and they said Sridhara Maharaja is their "higher authority," right -- "higher" than Srila Prabhupada. So they basically booted out Srila Prabhupada as their authority and made a higher authority of the Gaudiya Matha's deviants. That was required since they were now going to make the same bogus guru deviation as the Gaudiya Matha, so they took shelter there to cement in the deviation.

Simultaneously --

The Gaudiya Matha is our new authority.

There is no GBC, there is the acharya board.

No one is allowed to see the letters, the 1977 conversations, the will, and other documents.

Anyone asking questions is booted out and threatened with violence.

Money meant to care for the gurukula children is being siphoned off for opulent lifestyles of the elite 11 and their lackeys.

Jayatirtha is caught having illicit sex and taking drugs and he is still reinstated as an acharya.

ISKCON loses the Syracuse fraud lawsuit.

ISKCON farm is raided by Federal Marshals in Berkeley Farm.

PDI business in Laguna Beach temple is raided by the Federal Marshals.

New Vrndavana dissenter disappears, and was later found buried in New Vrndavana.

Bhagavan is living like a king while he kicked out hundreds of Prabhupada devotees.

Hansadutta kicked out all but two Prabhupada devotees.

GBC starts to say acharyas are often deviants.

Satsvarupa writes paper saying that the mahajanas are often in illusion and deviating ...

Women's collecting party abuses reported in the Los Angeles Times.

Parents begin to report problems in the gurukula system ... 


Meanwhile Hrdayananda was under fire for "overly associating with women." So are we to say none of these leaders were aware of these issues?]


Danger on Both Sides

However, we must keep in mind that one can veer off any road to the right or left. Thus history teaches us that there are two dangers to Prabhupada’s GBC system:

a) not accepting GBC authority;

b) giving oppressive power to the GBC.

Failure to follow the GBC system will sabotage Prabhupada’s ISKCON. But an unjust or oppressive GBC can itself damage and even destroy Prabhupada’s GBC system. Consider the following.

Social and political science often cite the pendulum effect to show that cultural, social, and political trends, when brought to one extreme, will tend to swing back to the opposite extreme. Thus throughout history, tyranny has often led to anarchy or democracy. A classic example is the oppressive French monarchy that led to the chaotic French Revolution. A current example is seen in Libya.
Prabhupada himself said that in the West, monarchy fell and gave way to democracy because it grew corrupt and oppressive. The opposite is also true: anarchy leads to tyranny, as seen in Germany after World War I.

I will argue in this paper that ISKCON has diligently guarded against one extreme: rejecting the GBC system. But ISKCON must also guard itself from the opposite extreme: tyranny. The GBC must take care not to claim, beyond Prabhupada’s mandate, an extreme power that will ultimately destabilize and undermine Prabhupada’s GBC system. 

Dictatorial authority may lead to a collapse of that authority, as with the Gauḍīya Maṭha, or to strong institutional democracy that jeopardizes the descending authority of the paramparā system.

[PADA: Right, the GBC system is not a cooperative effort made with the senior devotees and themselves. It has become a tyranny system of a few artificial "absolute acharyas" who have made chaos out of ISKCON, at the same time they cannot seem to manage a simple problem like removing deviants from the post of leadership. Devotees in one zone have gone through this problem even recently, an abusive person was allowed to rule over the devotees and the GBC failed to correct this, and protect the citizens. The tyrants are allowed to rule with an iron fist, and dissenters are squashed.  

Its dysfunctional, as is always the case with tyrants, the people at the top benefit and those on the lower rungs suffer. That is true in North Korea, and this is why some ex-kulis told me Hrdayananda's program is like North Korea, a few elites live like kings, while the lowly peons (as happened with the gurukula children) suffer from a lack of resources, or even a lack of essential supplies like soap, food, blankets and medicine. Hrdayananda as a leader is directly responsible for all these problems ... And Hrdayananda is right, he and his pals have acted like tyrants, as has been confirmed by victims of their program. ys pd]  


Wednesday, July 27, 2016

Hrdayananda Swami's "GBC Reform" Paper Pt. 1

Being Krishna's Successor is not to be taken lightly!

Hridayananda das Goswami
July 23, 2016
Table of Contents
Introduction 4
Historical Moments for Non-GBC Help 4
Unity in Diversity 4
Prabhupada’s Will and the GBC 4
Danger on Both Sides 5
Engaging Scholarship to Understand ISKCON 5
The Term Political 6
Routinization of Charisma 7
Three Forms of Social Authority 7
Charismatic Authority 7
Routinizing Authority 8
Traditional and Rational-Legal Authority 8
GBC as Heirs 11
GBC Self-Understanding 11
Problems with GBC Self-Understanding 11
GBC Traits 15
Interpreting the Mandate 15
Danger of Bureaucratic Tyranny 15
Management Hierarchy and Spiritual Hierarchy 16
Decreasing Empathy 17
The Iron Law of Oligarchy 17
Sadhu Burnout 17
Austere and “Pious” Tyranny 18
Follow vs. Imitate 19
Justice 21
Justice Needed for Social Stability 21
Justice Linked to Ethics, Morality 21
Justice linked to Equality 21
Kṛṣṇa Acts Justly 21
Equality and Hierarchy 22
Types of Justice 24
Blindfolded Justice 25
Law and Language 26
Equality 26
Other Key Words 26
Justice in GBC Law 27
GBC Law 4.4.2 Justice Ministry 27
GBC Law 17.1-2 Justice 28
Unequal Law 30
Discipline of Devotees in General 30
Discipline of Lesser ISKCON Leaders 30
Discipline of Regional Secretaries and RGB 30
Discipline of GBCs, Compared to TPs 30
Conduct and Discipline of Dīkṣā Gurus 31
Regional Governing Board (RGB) Members 33
GBC Conduct 33
Compare Laws for GBCs and Gurus 34
Appeal in GBC Laws 38
Recourse and Appeal for Ordinary Devotees? 38
GBC Admission of Flawed Law Doesn’t Fix It 39
Stifling Debate Through Outdated Law 39
GBC Does Not Publish Self-Disciplinary Rules 40
Understanding ISKCON Lines of Authority 41
Introduction 41
Public Reason 41
Two Visions of ISKCON 42
UILA Seems to Favor Controlled Society 43
GBC Subordinating Language 44
Nourishing Bhakti 45
UILA Undermines Preachers’ Autonomy 46
Sannyāsīs not in Management Hierarchy 47
Freedom in Devotional Service 48
Feudal ISKCON? 50
GBC and Philosophy 52
Fanaticism 52
Corruption 53
Incompetence 54
Avoiding the “GBC Word” 54
Social Contract vs. Tyranny 55
The Vanishing Reference Point 56
Constitution 57
Prabhupada Calls for an ISKCON Constitution 57
What Is a Constitution? 57
Purpose Six, Devotee Rights, Unfulfilled 57
Four Conflicting Core Principles 57
Other Articles Give No Rights 58
Limited Call for Feedback 59
Proposed Social Contract 59
IR and IDRO 61
ISKCON Resolve (IR) 61
IDRO ISKCON Dispute Resolution Office 61
Conclusion 63
Summary of ISKCON’s GBC 63
Why Justice? 64


Historical Moments for Non-GBC Help

ISKCON’s history shows that at times in crucial situations, non-GBC devotees can provide the impetus and logic needed to motivate and even guide the GBC Body. In the zonal acarya issue, the Narayan Maharaja issue, and the abusive Gurukula issue, non-GBC devotees powerfully brought the GBC’s and ISKCON’s attention to areas of vital concern, resulting in essential correction, compensation, and progress.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada says that acharyas do not need advice from others, in particular their subordinates or God brothers. Yet here Hrdayananda admits that the GBC's gurus are often unable to correct issues themselves, and so their subordinates or God brothers are often better at discriminating issues. Of course, never mind that, its more often that the mundane karmis see how ridiculous these GBC's gurus are, and even they know the GBC is deviating by promoting fools as their acharyas. 

Then again, the karmi media, police, FBI and courts often had to reign in the GBC's bogus and even criminal programs because -- no one else could or would, certainly they could not police themselves. For example, the karmi courts had to prosecute the GBC's child molesting case, and have them sued for $400,000,000, because Hrdayananda and his GBC could not and did not properly address this issue, and they still have not still dealt with the issue properly ever since. 

Thus! There are still victims who are bristling with anger over the fact that many of the leaders of the molesting infrastructure are still in big seats of authority. They feel betrayed because they were. But hardly no one listens to these victims, or those of us representing their case. So Hrdayananda is correct, they are not listening to others.

And what its come down to NOW is, the GBC's folks say that God's successors / gurus and acharyas are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, but even the average "karmi" mundane person knows that God's successors are not EVER engaged in illicit sex. This is why the Isopanisad says that these false acharyas are far worse off than the average mundane person, and thus these false gurus will go to far worse hellish planets than the average mundane person. Notice, the average mundane person has a far greater understanding of God's successors, i.e. they are not EVER debauchees, so the karmis are vastly superior to Hrdayananda and his entire GBC program in terms of guru tattva realizations.

So Hrdayananda is actually correct, the GBC is adrift because of failing to listen, and thus the average hamburger eating mundane person knows that God's successor gurus are not illicit sex deviants, while only foolish people like the GBC and Hrdayananda are baffled on this point. And the reason they are totally baffled is -- that they do not consult with their God brothers, the shastra, Srila Prabhupada's directives, or even the average karmis etc. 

In fact almost any hamburger eating person on the street knows vastly more than Hrdayananda's GBC probably ever will know in this lifetime, i.e. that God is pure and thus His successors are too. That is way over the head of dullards like Hrdayananda and his GBC, they cannot fathom this principle. Unfortunately, shastra is very clear, anyone who says acharyas are usually debauchees like Hrdayananda and his GBC pals, will be headed for a very bad future life, there is no way to escape this fate for these thinkers. 

Hee hee! I just rescued a huge ugly black and brown spider from climbing on my wall, and escorted him outside into the plants. Yep, Krishna can EASILY and IMMEDIATELY put one into a place where one will be totally baffled and with no intelligence, and He does that to people who misuse their intelligence to make false gurus. 

Shastra says these veda vada rata people go to a vastly worse fate than the ordinary mundane person, because they are misleading others. I just got a question from a person asking about Rupanuga's letter where he is saying these GBC 11 are madhyama gurus. So just see how badly these GBC and Rupanugas have confused people. First of all Rupanuga is attacking Srila Prabhupada as faulty and unable to determine who is a guru successor to Krishna and who is not, and so he appoints 11 unqualified people as Krishna's guru successors. That is not what happened!

Then Rupanga is attacking the religious sentiment of the mass of people, making them wonder why illicit sex deviants are madhyama gurus? So they are intentionally twisting the Vedas so they can support their idea that their illicit sex with men, women and children deviants are God's saintly successors. This is how they degrade the entire human society, according to shastra, and that is why they go to the lowest places after they leave their bodies. Of course in the meantime they have made ISKCON into a place where illicit sex predators can flock to in abundance.]

I believe that such a historical moment is upon us again — a moment in which good and faithful ISKCON devotees, respecting Prabhupada’s GBC system, must petition the GBC to correct a critical problem with ISKCON leadership, including the GBC itself.

[PADA: Great. So we have to petition the GBC's acharyas to correct themselves, but Srila Prabhupada says it is an offense to correct the acharyas? Why would acharyas have to be petitioned to correct "critical problems"? Which previous acharyas were petitioned for making critical problems for others? And why is Hrdayananda saying that acharyas are making critical problems, when Srila Prabhupada says acharyas are saving people from their problems? If the acharyas are deviating and need to be petitioned to stop deviating, what kind of acharyas are they promoting?]

Having served for many years as a GBC member, including four years under Srila Prabhupada’s direct training, and one year as GBC chairman, and serving now as a loyal yet concerned member of ISKCON, I here present my case to the loyal servants of Prabhupada, for their sober consideration. My sincere desire is to strengthen Prabhupada’s GBC system, and not to injure it.

[PADA: Hrdayananda already injured the GBC system by declaring that 11 of its members are acharyas. When "the GBC" advised Harikesh, Jayapataka, Jayatirtha, Bhavananda and others about correcting their wrong behaviors, they argued that since they are "acharyas" -- they cannot be criticized. You cannot have a group of managers rule over the acharyas! That is still true today with Hrdayananda himself, the GBC has advised him to control what he says, and he really doesn't.] 

Unity in Diversity

In convoking the first annual Mayapura GBC meeting, which took place in 1974 [not 1975 as stated on the GBC website], Prabhupada clearly indicated that the GBC should govern in > cooperation with other senior devotees: “With all GBC and senior men present we should discuss how to make unity in diversity. But, if we fight on account of diversity, then it is simply the material platform. Please try to maintain the philosophy of unity in diversity. That will make our movement successful.” [Letter to Kirtananda Swami—October 18, 1973]

[PADA: Right, so this was the first thing Hrdayananda's party did, they purged out almost all of the God brothers, because the God brothers were objecting to their acharya status. So the whole platform of cooperation was dismantled. And this is still the case, the God brothers are objecting to the guru voting process, but it continues. The God brothers said we cannot offer bhogha to the conditioned soul GBC gurus, but that process continues. 

Then again the God brothers said there was a child abuse problem, they were ignored. The God brothers said, do not consult with Narayana Maharaja, he was consulted anyway. The God brothers said, do not spend millions and millions suing Bangalore, but the GBC did that anyway, and the list is endless. The GBC has never consulted with us really, and Hrdayananda is perhaps the worst offender in this group, he does not consult with us -- ever. 

Again, Hrdayananda is correct, the GBC should have consulted with the God brothers, that would have avoided the purge that made the temples into ghost towns, would have averted the child abuse lawsuit, would have averted the mass defections to Sridhara and Narayana and so on and so forth. They do not consult, yep! And now they have the karma of impeding if not halting Lord Chaitanya's movement on their necks, which means, they will be paying for that for probably eons of time. The good news is, they may eventually become a spider on the wall of a Vaishnava, so they will get a little mercy. As Srila Prabhupada says, false gurus are never tolerated by the Lord or any agents of the Lord. They will go down, period.]    

Accordingly, there must be dialogue between the GBC and senior devotees that disagree with them on practical points, or that advocate reform within Prabhupada’s principles, as I do here. After all, Prabhupada speaks of unity in diversity. He knew there would be different views. Prabhupada did not ask the GBC to eliminate bona fide diversity by punishing those who disagree with them, but rather to search for unity in diversity with other faithful devotees.

[PADA: Speaking from experience, devotees who disagree with the self-appointed gurus are consistently shunned, banned, -- and worse -- some are beaten and some are killed for dissenting. And now they are spending apparently $20,000,000 to ban the Bangalore devotees, and they are also banning more and more people from Brooklyn temple, Phoenix temple and so on and so forth. The banning continues unabated. Again, Hrdayananda is right, the God brothers are not consulted, and worse, they are treated like enemies who need to be banned, beaten, sued and maybe treated with fatal actions.

People like Bhakti Vikas swami, Rupanuga, Badrinarayan and others are still promoting the idea that the GBC gurus were appointed by Srila Prabhupada. There is no evidence he appointed gurus, or that he wanted these falsely appointed gurus -- to vote in more gurus. Their whole operation is operating on the false principle that Srila Prabhupada made a mistake and he appointed conditioned souls as his acharya successors. That is not what he did. And as long as we have these independent maverick acharyas, who often do not accept the rulings of the GBC committee, or worse, they concoct  and modify the rulings to fit their false acharya's program, nothing substantial will change. ys pd] 


Rathayatra Manipura 1870

The Greater ISKCON (by Dina)


I was reading this article and felt inspired to pen a reply:

However, when i was trying to post it, it said only 'team members' could post....

[PADA: Right, you can submit comments or essays to]

Since i had already written it, and i felt it may inspire some other lovers of Srila Prabhupada in 'the greater iskcon', i thought of sending it to you, the admin of the site, with a request that you kindly pos the comment for me below the article, if possible. Thank you. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Your humble servant,



@Anonymous(2): It's about loving Srila Prabhupada in an eternal relationship of love, not about how long or how many rules one has followed for how long... If one remains in such a relationship life after life, serving a factual pure devotee like Srila Prabhupada, then one himself is always 'the true iskcon' and will never stop serving and glorifying Srila Prabhupada and expertly giving his mercy to others (whether or not he lives in a building called iskcon!) In that way i am sure all the true loving servants of His Divine Grace can never and have never given up serving and remembering him....only they may not be doing it in a building with the signboard Iskcon on it, because I think Srila Prabhupada left that address long ago, along with his true mission, which is Lord Caitanya's Sri Krishna Sankirtana Movement - that is the true 'iskcon'. 

In one of his SB purports, Srila Prabhupada clearly reveals the fact that when an Acarya departs, he leaves behind him a community of Brahmanas (N.B. He did not say Vaishnavas). So that is what Iskcon the buildings and legal assets are - caste brahmins in the mould of Srila Prabhupada's mercy. But the true disciples who live and breathe in his mercy are those who fell in love with him by serving him, because the ecstasy that HDG feels in every moment of serving his beloved Gurudev has electrified them and transformed them into his loving slaves life after life after life.... they can and will never forget him and never stop wanting to taste again that nectar of just doing anything at all spontaneously to please him..... no one expresses it better than His Grace Shyamsundar prabhu when he remembers his interactions with His Divine Grace before the camera and he describes Srila Prabhupada as leading an adventure like a pirate on a ship - it was simply real, living ecstatic devotional service!

Once all the 'changing disease' (especially the books) & the bogus gurus and asset / power-grabbing games began, Srila Prabhupada left Iskcon and all who wanted to continue serving him with ecstatic love would naturally have done so far from contested properties and contested seats of power etc, to relish the sublime nectar of their intimate, loving, eternal servitude relationship with their beloved Master & Gurudeva, Srila Prabhupada. That sort of personal love cannot be quantified nor institutionalized..... We can maybe get a drop of their nectar if we sincerely serve them and, when the right moment arises, eagerly beg them, "tell me once more what's he like to be near to...."..... i think that mood came across in this, the only poem that this foolish self (me) has ever accidentally penned -

In summary, I guess what i am saying is it is all about personal loving relationships - that is how it (parampara) goes on eternally unstoppably....but not within brick walls called Iskcon.... His Divine Grace and his great mission to inundate the world with Prema Nama Sankirtana live on, in the hearts of this simple hearted loving slaves of his who are unable to remember and speak about His Divine Graces's personal mercy upon them without choking- and tearing-up..... (his servitors such as Shyamsundar Prabhu, Yamuna mataji, Mukunda Maharaj etc come to mimd...) oh, when will we be blessed to serve His Divine Grace's true lovers and servants in the same mood of total abandon and love? May those who tasted ecstasy in the presence of Srila Prabhupada kindly continue to pour out all their Oral History and preserve it in books and share their heartfelt recollections of His Divine Grace on youtube etc for posterity. THERE THE REAL ISKCON MISSION LIVES ON, FOR NO ONE CAN STOP ANYONE FROM SEEKING OUT A LOVING SERVANT OF SRILA PRABHUPADA AND SERVING HIM/HER...

He has purely left his mark on the planet and it is simply not relevant what good or bad administration was done with the material assets he left behind in some buildings called iskcon.... The real temples he built in the hearts of all who served him and then could not give up serving him! (As HDG said once, "That is how I have cheated you!".....but that is another story.... i digress) All glories, all glories to Srila Prabhupada! And all glories to Lord Krishna, Who, in the recent hippie era, orchestrated a miraculous phenomena called Iskcon that revealed to the world that (a) Srila Prabhupada is His pure devotee, "mor senapati bhakta" [Brahma-vaivarta Purana] empowered to save the world, and (b) That Krishna Himself had recently incarnated as Lord Caitanya in Puri to give Gopi-Manjari Prema freely to the whole world through Sri Hari Nama Mahamantra: HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA / KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE / HARE RAMA HARE RAMA / RAMA RAMA HARE HARE

That miracle has been chronicled in masterpieces like Hare Krishna Explosion by Howard Wheeler, Radha Damodar Vilas, Prabhupada Lilamrta etc etc, and those books will inspire the spiritual explosion of the fulfillment of Srila Prabhupada's pure heart's desire to inundate the world with prema nama sankirtana. It shall come to pass. PARAM VIJAYATE SRI KRISHNA SANKIRTANAM! All glories, ALL GLORIES TO OUR SRILA PRABHUPADA!

P.S. Please drink deeply this nectar of Yamuna Mataji's love for Srila Prabhupada, expressed in English and devotionally rendered into Bengali verse in this outstanding recording.....

[PADA: Well we do not agree that the Lilamrta by SDG is bona fide, but we like the sentiment of your essay. ys pd]

Monday, July 25, 2016

Bhakti Vikas swami's Clone and "Foolish Gurus"

BVKS follower tells us to both follow and reject their guru parampara?

Thanks prabhu, 

Correct me if I am wrong. You are apparently saying: 

1) Bhakti Vikas swami is authorized to toss out Srila Prabhupada's direct instructions -- that we neophytes cannot act as diksha gurus and take karma, never mind this is causing -- sickness, falldown, suffering, misery and even death for his own God brothers, never mind all the bad publicity -- due to those who are taking this karma without authority. Never mind BVKS makes it look like Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered his neophytes to act as diksha gurus who can absorb sins like Jesus, which is a de facto attack on Srila Prabhupada because he never authorized this process.

OK so Bhakti vikas swami is authorized to encourage ruining the lives of these devotees, and ruin ISKCON in the process since this will impact the society, due to some mysterious licence he got from -- where? This is really a kindergarten level instruction, its part of the basics, and BVKS thinks its not important? Neophytes cannot take karma, its ABC instruction, and he thinks its not even worth mentioning, much less following. 

Bhakti Vikas swami is thus authorized to create all these artificial problems -- because he knows better than Srila Prabhupada? You have failed to explain how you folks are authorized to toss out the orders of the acharya? You claim to be the real followers of Prabhupada, but the first thing you are doing is to say his orders have no meaning? All that, despite all the darkness you folks created by ignoring these types of orders.

Why is BVKS tossing out the direct orders of the acharya? Of course BVKS is also saying he is "advising" the other gurus with his book etc. Why does BVKS think Krishna's successor gurus are his students, who need his advising, correction, rectification, monitoring, reform, suspension etc.? Where is this process discussed by Srila Prabhupada? And who placed BVKS in charge of the other acharyas?

2) You say we need to listen to BVKS and read his site, and his site supports these GBC's "acharyas" because he advertises himself as a member of their group, and he advertises their documents on his site.  

3) Yet, the same GBC's documents he advertises on his site -- he claims are written by fools, because the same GBC's authors are banning his books. Why is BVKS advertising documents that are written by people he claims are fools? As one devotee commented, this is like a vegetarian restaurant advertising beef stew. 

4) And since the authors of these GBC's documents he advertises are also gurus and acharyas, therefore, BVKS is saying his co-gurus and acharyas are fools. BVKS thus says yes, they are acharyas and yes, they are also fools for rejecting my book. Why does BVKS always say his acharyas are fools, and thus we should simultaneously follow them because they are acharyas and -- reject them -- since they are fools? And how can anyone simultaneously follow and reject them? And doesn't Srila Prabhupada say the asuras will give contrary orders?

5) Worse! A number of BVKS folks have been writing publicly how the GBC's gurus are fools, illicit sex gurus, new age compromisers, ping pong swamis etc., so he is training his own people to believe that his own guru parampara is comprised of fools. Which previous acharyas preached that their own guru parampara is comprised of fools? 

OK this begs the question:

Why is BVKS always saying acharyas are fools? This is an attack on the entire Vedic process. 

6) Srila Prabhupada says anyone who says guru are deviants is -- a resident of hell. What kind of guru parampara says, read these documents, because they are written by our gurus, and thus they are written by fools? I find it amazing that BVKS is saying that we need to listen to his people and accept them as our gurus, and at the same time, reject them since they are fools for rejecting his book? 

Anyway, we are making good progress here, you are saying the GBC are fools for rejecting BVKS' advise. That means BVKS program is saying, their acharyas are fools. Except, he also says they are bona fide and we need to listen to them. Srila Prabhupada says all fools should be rejected, he never said that we need to accept any number of fools as our acharyas, and in fact he says anyone who does that is going to the lower planets. To sum then, you BVKS guys are admitting you are promoting fools as your gurus and acharyas. We wholeheartedly agree. Except, its forbidden to promote fools as acharyas, and anyone who does that goes to the lower planets.

ys pd

Bhakti Vikas swami's idea that acharyas need advise and correcting, and being removed for illicit sex etc. is itself an offense ...

"It is also an offense to consider an empowered Vaiṣṇava an object of disciplinary action. It is offensive to try to give him advice or to correct him. One can distinguish between a neophyte Vaiṣṇava and an advanced Vaiṣṇava by their activities. The advanced Vaiṣṇava is always situated as the spiritual master, and the neophyte is always considered his disciple. The spiritual master must not be subjected to the advice of a disciple, nor should a spiritual master be obliged to take instructions from those who are not his disciples. This is the sum and substance of Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī’s advice in the sixth verse."
The Nectar of Instruction : Texts 6 : 

Sunday, July 24, 2016

Bhakti Vikas Swami's Program -- Killing His Godbrothers?

Taking karma is causing sickness and death?

PADA: Srila Prabhupada named no one to be guru? That is false. He told us many times not to even allow other people to touch our feet -- or we will be acting as diksha gurus, and we will thus be absorbing other's karma, and this will make us get sick, fall down or both. 

Whereas Bhakti Vikas swami's program is openly encouraging people to act as diksha gurus, and how did you guess, they are getting sick, falling down, and many have died prematurely. Gunagrahi swami -- for example -- has cancer (from taking karma?) and on his way to the hospital -- his feet are being touched, giving him even more karma, and he is already dying?  

Why is Bhakti Vikas swami's program encouraging unqualified people to act as diksha gurus, when he clearly sees they are falling down, getting sick, and dying left, right and center? Why does BVKS want his own brothers to suffer and die like this? Notice in the photo above, he is laughing, while his victims are falling down, suffering illness, and even dying?

Yes! BVKS is clearly causing intense suffering and death for his own brothers by having them take karma without authority. Just look at the 11 gurus BVKS first started promoting, everyone of them, yes EVERY SINGLE ONE, either got very sick, fell down, or died. Why is BVKS making this program, which is clearly destroying these folks, who are supposed to be his own brothers? Why does BVKS want his brothers to go down into the ditch, and even die? 

OK agreed, I don't like all of my God brothers, but I am not wishing them to get sick, fall down, and die from fatal ailments -- like BVKS is doing every single day of his life since 1977? Why is BVKS promoting a program that is making his God brothers get sick, fall down -- and which is in fact killing his brothers from fatal ailments? Just look how BVKS program has ruined the health of Jayapataka swami for example. 

And even some of JPS own followers AGREE WITH PADA. They are saying exactly what we are saying, that JPS is sick from TAKING KARMA. This means -- even the GBC's guru folks know their gurus are getting sick, falling down, and dying, from taking karma. So why is BVKS encouraging his own God brothers to take this dire step, knowing how badly its affecting his own brothers? He sees that so many of his brothers ALREADY got sick, fell down, and died prematurely from taking karma, and he wants that process to expand and continue? He clearly wants to spread suffering and death among the Vaishnava community. 

Why does BVKS hate vaishnavas including his own brothers so badly, he wants them to suffer these fates? Yep! Why does BVKS want these horrendous reactions to happen to his own brothers? So first of all, he says he loves his brothers. Then he says, lets get our own brothers to take karma without any authority whatever, so they can become very sick, fall down into scandals, and die prematurely, from taking this karma. BVKS does not even love his own brothers? 

Yes, I do disagree with my brothers, but at least I am NOT telling my brothers to get sick, fall down and die. I am not attacking anyone, I am saving others from this fate. I also already explained that many people are already following our idea and that is why the BVKS program is spending $20,000,000 suing our Prabhupada folks. That is apparently because -- he wants more people to suffer and die, he has not seen enough victims of his bogus ideas. 

You said we are all watching TV and smoking pot, ok so why is BVKS program spending apparently $20m to stop the people who are watching TV and smoking pot? That is your guys biggest priority issue? This is the goal of life? Its not to preach, or to print books, or start varnasrama, its to sue the pot head and TV watching folks? Why has BVKS program dedicated itself to attacking the pot heads, if that is what we all are? Yep, lets stunt all our preaching so we can waste $20,000,000 suing -- the pot heads?

As for me personally following Vaishnava vows, I am following way better than BVKS's illicit sex guru project? His gurus have been watching football on TV, watching porn, gambling in Las Vegas, having illicit sex, and I caught one of them eating chicken salad at the local health food store. 

First of all, you should get your gurus to follow the basics, then you can start to worry about my standards. Anyway, below is a photo of JPS, and just see how BVKS has told this man to accept karma AGAINST THE DIRECT ORDERS of the acharya, and just see what BVKS is doing, he is killing his own God brothers by telling them they can take karma. 

They can't absorb karma, and they were told NOT TO by the acharya. And why don't you folks ever answer the first question, who authorized BVKS to tell his brothers to take karma, when he knows we were told not to do so, and when he sees how his program is causing his own brothers so much suffering, and premature death? 

So yes, as a matter of fact I am more advanced than BVKS, because I am not sitting around since 1977 encouraging my brothers to take karma, which causes them to get sick, fall down and die. I wanted my brothers not to fall down, get sick and -- die. Yes, that makes me the better person here. ys pd

Karma absorbing sponge of the jagat?

Yep, just give me all your karma, I am another Jesus!

Saturday, July 23, 2016

Gospel Singing Kid Freed from Kidnap

Putin Goes To War With Russia's Independent Churches

Prabhupada Bhavan CZ

Dear devotees in Zagreb temple and in all Croatia.

my humble obeisances

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I have most humble request for you all, hoping that you will not take this as an offence. I just wish to tell you what am I witnessing on the streets of Zagreb, almost every day, and how I feel about that. I see devotees everywhere distributing books, but those books are not Srila Prabhupada's books. Every day I see the same and I feel my heart is breaking. Please, kindly, at least, think off for the second, for what will I say about that. Please, do not just reject. My intentions are not bad. 

Please, kindly try to understand that Prabhupada's books are the Absolute Truth in a written form. They are the only way to save all the souls on this planet. They are Krishna Himself. They are standard for spiritual knowledge for the next 10000 years. The books written by Prabhupada's disciples are not on the equal level. They are not even close. Devotees can read them, if they like, and find the inspiration, but they are NOT for the distribution to the fallen souls. 

That books are not empowered by Caitanya Mahaprabhu to save anyone. Prabhupada wrote Srimad Bhagavatam till His last breath for that purpose. Please let us not be so unkind and ungratefull to Srila Prabhupada and His mission which was His own life and soul. Please, let us not neglect the fact that there would not be a single devotee on this planet (including all Prabhupada's disciples) without Srila Prabhupada. 

Srila Prabhupada is the SAVIOUR. And He will continue saving souls only if we continue giving and shareing His transcendental books. Please, let us continue His mission - out of gratefullness - because He only wanted that His books go out to the fallen. Please, let us not try to replace Him out of sentimentalism.
Thank you very much. Humbly, Daivi sakti devi dasi 

[PADA: This is good, more people are realizing that the changed books are bogus, and the GBC guru's books are even more bogus. Goody! ys pd] 

Prabhupada Bhavan

[PADA: Ooops, these folks are advertising themselves as Prabhupada's Bhavan, sounds good, but then they are posting a photo of Bhakti Vikas swami as their apparent spokesperson. BVKS is a "vote in" member of the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's program. Why doesn't BVKS know that illicit sex is not found in acharyas?

And Bhakti Vikas swami regularly lectures that we cannot approach Krishna by our Prabhupadanuga process of worship of Srila Prabhupada, he says we need to stop worship of Prabhupada and surrender to his illicit sex deviant messiah's program in order to attain Krishna. Why does BVKS think we can attain Krishna by worship of his illicit sex guru process? Is there any religion on earth that preaches that the process to attain God is to worship illicit sex, or worship the people voted in by persons engaged in illicit sex, like BVKS was voted into the illicit sex acharya program? If anyone from Prabhupada Bhavan can explain this, we'd like to hear about it. ys pd]


PADA: Thanks. Why is Bhakti Vikas swami supporting suing us for $20,000,000 for our worshipping Prabhupada? And why was he voted into the GBC's guru program, which has illicit sex with men, women and children? Yes, he has supported banning us all along, our Prabhupada devotees have been banned, beaten and some were killed, because our program wanted to worship Prabhupada, and BVKS is a huge supporter of the GBC that is doing this violence to the Vaishnavas. 

Jayapataka says that acharyas are often falling into illicit sex, and BVKS is falling at his feet. And he lectures that they are right. OK. They are right to sue us and stop us from worshiping Prabhupada. Why is his party spending $20,000,000 to stop the worship of Prabhupada? And we need to worship BVKS and his illicit sex acharyas program -- instead of Prabhupada? Why would we do that?

Anyway, Srila Prabhupada's program is expanding. There are maybe 22 centers throughout India, and we are making more Prabhupada devotees every day all over the planet. Right now our blog is also getting hits from all over the planet, and people want to follow our idea of worship of the pure devotee. 

Meanwhile, the GBC are still selling temples and kicking people out, like they are doing now in Brooklyn. They are still kicking people out left, right and center. The good news, some of the people they are kicking out are reading our blog and they want to join our idea! ys pd

Friday, July 22, 2016

BBC News ISKCON's 50th Incorporation

Russia May Restrict Religious Freedoms

Vrindavanlila Dasi: We are praying to Lord Jagannath to resolve difficulties presented to the preaching in Russia by a new law about ‘missionary activity’ (which isn’t finalized yet). Please join us in Kirtan-prayer for the Lord’s mercy to resolve this situation in a mutually beneficial way – so the government can prevent terrorism, and devotees can carry on with Harinamas, book distribution, namahattas – and our other usual preaching work.

This law affects all religious organizations in Russia. If the law gets passed in the way it’s written now, it will not be possible to preach anywhere outside officially registered premises (a temple), and not even in one's personal apartment. We also can’t invite more than one foreign preacher at a time, and only with with permission; we can’t preach in public places – this can be interpreted as a ‘religious method’ … and if found ‘guilty’ of that 'crime' – one must pay a huge fine, really heavy.

Devotees in Russia started a Kirtan-prayer for resolution of this horrible situation. Please join in Kirtan campaign, make kirtans everywhere, in support of Russian devotee’s right to preach.


There will be only special people in special places who will be allowed to preach, and it will be illegal to preach certain ideas. Lawmakers are eager to place new restrictions on Russia’s religious sphere, amending the legal definition of “missionary activity” as defined under the Constitution’s article on the freedom of conscience and religion. 

Yarovaya’s legislation defines as “missionary activity” any kind of religious practice that takes place outside special establishments, cemeteries, houses of worship, or religious schools. This applies to acts of worship, ceremonies, the distribution of literature, and preaching. “The dissemination of beliefs and religious convictions” through the mass media and even the Internet is also considered to be “missionary activity.”

If the legislation is passed, missionary activity would be off limits to anyone but the representatives of registered organizations and groups, and individuals who have entered into formal agreements with such bodies. When preaching, every missionary must carry documents with specific information proving their connection to a registered religious group. Lawmakers want to ban any kind of missionary activity in residential areas, except prayer services, ceremonies, and sacramental rites. Foreign missionaries will only be able to operate in the regions where their inviting organizations are registered.

The authorities want to ban the dissemination of certain religious concepts, too, such as ideas believed to promote extremism, discourage receiving medical care, encourage surrendering property to religious organizations, and so on. Violating these prohibitions would risk steep administration fines as high as a million rubles (more than $15,000).

The human rights center “Sova” says the amendments to Russian laws about missionary work threaten not only unregistered religious groups, but also the organizations that are already registered (namely, churches belonging to Protestants and newer Christian sects). Even some Russian Orthodox missionaries could encounter problems, Sova warns.



Proposed law in Russia would ban proselytizing

Legislation which passed the Russian legislature and awaits President Vladimir Putin’s signature could ban private citizens from sharing their faith with others, Christianity Today reported on Wednesday.

Should the new law go into effect, citizens wishing to share their faith will have to “secure a government permit through a registered religious organization, and they cannot evangelize anywhere besides churches and other religious sites,” according to the evangelical Christian magazine. “The restrictions even apply to activity in private residences and online.”

“If passed, the anti-evangelism law carries fines up to US $780 for an individual and $15,500 for an organization,” Christianity Today said. “Foreign visitors who violate the law face deportation.”

“Soviet history shows us how many people of different faiths have been persecuted for spreading the Word of God. This law brings us back to a shameful past,” evangelical leaders warned Mr. Putin in a letter according to Christianity Today. The magazine noted that a mere 1 percent of Russia’s population is believed to be Protestant Christian.

To read more:


Christians in Russia won’t even be allowed to email their friends an invitation to church or to evangelize in their own homes if Russia’s newest set of surveillance and anti-terrorism laws are enacted. The proposed laws, considered the country’s most restrictive measures in post-Soviet history, place broad limitations on missionary work, including preaching, teaching, and engaging in any activity designed to recruit people into a religious group.

To share their faith, citizens must secure a government permit through a registered religious organization, and they cannot evangelize anywhere besides churches and other religious sites. The restrictions even apply to activity in private residences and online.

This week, Russia’s Protestant minority — estimated around 1 percent of the population — prayed, fasted, and sent petitions to President Vladimir Putin, who will have to approve the measures before they become official.

“Most evangelicals—leaders from all seven denominations—have expressed concerns,” Sergey Rakhuba, president of Mission Eurasia and a former Moscow church-planter, told CT. “They’re calling on the global Christian community to pray that Putin can intervene and God can miraculously work in this process.”
Following a wave of Russian nationalist propaganda, the laws passed almost unanimously in the Duma, the upper house, on Friday and in the Federation Council, the lower house, today.

“If this legislation is approved, the religious situation in the country will grow considerably more complicated and many believers will find themselves in exile and subjected to reprisals because of our faith,” wrote Oleg Goncharov, spokesman for the Seventh-day Adventists’ Euro-Asia division, in an open letter.
Proposed by United Russia party lawmaker Irina Yarovaya, the law appears to target religious groups outside the Russian Orthodox church. 

Because it defines missionary activities as religious practices to spread a faith beyond its members, “if that is interpreted as the Moscow Patriarchate is likely to, it will mean the Orthodox Church can go after ethnic Russians but that no other church will be allowed to,” according to Frank Goble, an expert on religious and ethnic issues in the region.

Russian nationalist identity remains tied up with the Russian Orthodox church.
“The Russian Orthodox church is part of a bulwark of Russian nationalism stirred up by Vladimir Putin,” David Aikman, history professor and foreign affairs expert, told CT. “Everything that undermines that action is a real threat, whether that’s evangelical Protestant missionaries or anything else.”

Sergei Ryakhovsky, head of the Protestant Churches of Russia, and several other evangelical leaders called the law a violation of religious freedom and personal conscience in a letter to Putin posted on the Russian site Portal-Credo. The letter reads, in part:

The obligation on every believer to have a special permit to spread his or her beliefs, as well as hand out religious literature and material outside of places of worship and used structures is not only absurd and offensive, but also creates the basis for mass persecution of believers for violating these provisions.
Soviet history shows us how many people of different faiths have been persecuted for spreading the Word of God. This law brings us back to a shameful past.”

Stalin-era religious restrictions—including outlawing religious activity outside of Sunday services in registered churches and banning parents from teaching faith to their kids—remained on the books until the collapse of the Soviet Union, though the government enforces them only selectively.

Some have questioned whether the government could or would monitor religious activity in private Christian homes.

“I don’t think you can overestimate the Russian government’s willingness to exert control,” Aikman told CT. If history is any indication, the proposed regulations reveal a pattern of “creeping totalitarianism” in the country, he said.
The so-called Big Brother laws also introduce widespread surveillance of online activity, including requiring encrypted apps to give the government the power to decode them, and assigning stronger punishments for extremism and terrorism.
The proposal is an “attack on freedom of expression, freedom of conscience, and the right to privacy that gives law enforcement unreasonably broad powers,” the humanitarian group Human Rights Watch told The Guardian.

If passed, the anti-evangelism law carries fines up to US $780 for an individual and $15,500 for an organization. Foreign visitors who violate the law face deportation. Russia has already moved to contain foreign missionaries. 

The “foreign agent” law, adopted in 2012, requires groups from abroad to file detailed paperwork and be subject to government audits and raids. Since then, the NGO sector has shrunk by a third, according to government statistics.
“In Moscow, we shared an office with 24 organizations. Not a single foreign expatriate mission is there now,” Rakhuba previously told CT. “They could not re-register. Missionaries could not return to Russia because they could not renew their visas. It is next to impossible to get registration as a foreign organization today.”

While Russia’s evangelicals pray that the proposed regulations are amended or vetoed, they have gone underground before, and they’ll be willing to do it again, Rakhuba said.

“They say, ‘If it will come to it, it’s not going to stop us from worshiping and sharing our faith,’” he wrote. “The Great Commission isn’t just for a time of freedom.”

[PADA: Lets see what happens. Its already very difficult to preach because of all the negative publicity created by the bogus GBC's gurus. If some governments start to crack down on "non-standard" or non-government endorsed religions, and especially to restrict rights and freedoms for various independent religions, this will make it even harder for us, and in fact this will make it harder for all independent religions. 

If anyone has any updates on this situation send to: 

ys pd]

Thursday, July 21, 2016

BV Narayana Maharaja Folks Challenge PADA

"Prabhupada" style titles are only meant for deviants?

[PADA: A follower of BV Narayana Maharaja has told PADA that yes, BV Narayana Maharaja was part of the 1971 Gaudiya Matha God brothers group meeting that "voted" to say that AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada has no authority to use the title of "Prabhupada." So BVNM was part of that group who objected to us calling our guru "Prabhupada." They argued that only Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Prabhupada could use that title.

Meanwhile, BVNM says that Sridhara and Madhava are bona fide gurus (and the BVNM follower who confronted PADA confirmed that BVNM says these 1936 gurus are bona fide acharyas) -- and these guys made a bi-sexual deviant into their acharya. So wait a minute, its NOT ok to have the bona fide acharya use the title meant for acharyas, like our Prabhupada, but it IS ok to affix these acharya titles to illicit sex deviants? Of course this begs the question, why are Jnana das, Jadurani, and many others -- promoting this worship of illicit sex acharyas process?  

Worse, BVNM supported the post-1977 GBC group that said illicit sex with men, women and children folks are qualified to use the titles of: Vishnupada, Acharyapada, Gurupada, Tirthapada, Krishnapada, etc. So its NOT ok for an actual acharya like our Prabhupada to use these titles -- meant for the acharyas, but IT IS ok to promote the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children -- using acharya titles? Its illegal to say Jesus is a pure devotee, its only legal to say Satan is a pure devotee? What!

Why does BVNM ilk say that actual acharyas CAN NOT use the titles meant for acharyas, but only his post-1936 bi-sexuals deviants party -- and BVNM's post-1977 illicit sex with men, women and children deviants party -- CAN use these titles? The 1936 bi-sexual deviant program is qualified to use acharya titles, but we cannot use these titles for our guru? Why doesn't BVNM know that titles meant for the acharyas are ONLY meant for acharyas -- and not for his illicit sex pooja deviation? Yep, they have failed to answer the question. If they or anyone else has any answer, send it to: 

angel108b@yahoo. com 

ys pd]      

Tuesday, July 19, 2016

The Parade of the Zonal Acharyas

Don't imitate guru, or one will eventually become degraded



In my short time living at 340 West 55th Street, six of the eleven original "zonal acaryas" visited and gave lectures. They were Bhagavan Goswami, Bhavananda Goswami, Kirtanananda Swami, Ramesvara Swami, Satsvarupa dasa Goswami (New York's Zonal Acarya), and Tamal Krsna Goswami.

I was hoping to write something meaningful concerning these original "zonal acaryas" who regularly made pilgrimage to the Hare Krishna Center in Manhattan, New York City during the period that I was a resident of that Maha ISKCON temple, in 1978 and 1979.

Then I realized, what could a lowly worm, a bottom feeder, have to say of any significance about Srila Prabhupada's early disciples? The line of sight of a maggot is lower than low and appallingly limited. But even the lowest of the low is part and parcel of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and is capable of appreciation, though in a very limited way, of the causeless transcendental mercy and the purifying effect on body, mind and soul in the blessed association of the pure devotee son of God.

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, out of compassion for all the fallen conditioned souls, rescued those initial followers from the dung heap of the material world. He picked them up with his lotus hands and lovingly placed them under his swan-like transcendental wings. He adopted them. He made them his spiritual sons. He bestowed upon them the exalted responsibility of directly assisting him in carrying out the order of his spiritual father, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, in spreading the holy names – HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE / HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE – in every town and village.

He gave them his nectarean love, his heart cleansing association, his perfect absolute instructions and his empowering blessings. They were made of his mercy. He generously supplied them with his personal transcendental literary ecstasies, his divine purports to the original Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Srimad-Bhagavatam and Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, to guide them unerringly, provided they followed those instructions. He did everything humanly and more-than-humanly possible for their, and the world's, eternal benefit.

All that a worm can do is envy them their immense other-worldly good fortune of being so inconceivably blessed. They were chosen by the Jagad-Guru Maha-Bhagavata Saktyavesa Avatara pure devotee of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Sri Radha Govinda to personally assist him in distributing Love of God to the world.

So I must necessarily wriggle cautiously, like the lowly grub that I am, among the surviving baby sprouts of my diminutive garden of devotional memories, and avoid offense – for the sake of Srila Prabhupada because he is their spiritual father, for their sake because they are his spiritual children, for the sake of any of Srila Prabhupada's siksa disciples who may still be following and worshipping the Zonals today, and for the sake of my own worthless bug-like self.

Although the subject matter herein is focused on the "zonal acaryas", all of Srila Prabhupada's early disciples were similarly blessed by him to take up the Sankirtana Movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Srila Prabhupada's mercy was available to all the boys and girls, who were sent to him by Krsna to chant the Holy Names, chant the Holy Names, chant the Holy Names. So although I am speaking of the "zonal acaryas", I know for a fact that they were not the only fortunate souls to have the intimate association of the Founder-Acarya of ISKCON at the beginning of the movement.

My envy is not limited to the mercy received by the Zonals. In my enviousness I do not discriminate. I envy the unlimited mercy received by all the rest of you early disciples too! You were there right next to Srila Prabhupada, hearing the spiritual sound vibrations directly from his lotus mouth, chanting and dancing in kirtana with His Divine Grace, directly serving him, worshiping him, cooking for him, honoring the remnants of his foodstuffs.

Envy, envy, envy! That is why I am stuck in a material body in the material world – envy!

I met some of you way back in the late 1960's when I was a boy of 14. I was attracted to you when I saw you performing harinama sankirtana, chanting and dancing on a sidewalk in Manhattan. I just stood there staring. I will never forget it. Why didn't you kidnap me and place me at Srila Prabhupada's lotus feet when you had the chance?

The Parade

Satsvarupa dasa Goswami was seated on a small vyasasana next to the much larger, more prominent (as it should be) vyasasana of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. That was SDG's vyasasana in the New York Temple. When he was not present in the temple there would be a framed garlanded photograph of him placed there. Visiting "zonal acaryas" sat on a similar minor vyasasana on the other side of Srila Prabhupada's vyasasana.

If one of the zonals arrived in the afternoon, there would be a big kirtana to welcome him and he would give an arrival address to the assembled devotees. The following morning he would give the Bhagavatam class. We are all individual spirit souls with unique personalities, experiences and realizations. Likewise, each of the zonals had their own personality and their own experiences and realizations in Krsna consciousness and preached accordingly.

Since 340 West 55th Street was in SDG's zone, all of the new devotees were expected to surrender to him as their spiritual master. It was an unwritten rule. There was no real choice in the matter. SDG was the guru for that zone and anyone aspiring for initiation had to surrender to him.

Unless an individual was strong-willed and independent in thought and very knowledgeable in sastra, which I was not, there was no other choice. If someone desired initiation from another "zonal acarya" they would possibly have to wait longer than the standard six to twelve months for diksa. There was possible verbal criticism from authorities and fellow bhaktas for not following the zonal way. 

There was possible isolation from the SDG aspirants who comprised a 100% majority of the uninitiated devotees. There was even the possibility of being required to move to another temple in another zone. You were swimming against the tide. You were definitely not encouraged to investigate the other "zonal acaryas" to see if you were more attracted to them or more enlivened by their preaching and association.

Here is how it was presented to me.

After living in the temple for a few months, I was asked by my bhakta leader, Niranjana dasa, if I had thought about initiation. Up to that time I was under the impression that Srila Prabhupada was my spiritual master. Everything I had learned was directly from the teachings of His Divine Grace. Not being a particularly inquisitive person, I assumed that Srila Prabhupada was my spiritual master.


As I have mentioned previously, everything was Prabhupada, Prabhupada, Prabhupada, Jaya Prabhupada. Prabhupada did this. Prabhupada did that. Prabhupada said this. Prabhupada said that. All the books we read and studied and quoted and followed were Srila Prabhupada's original unchanged books. We worshipped Srila Prabhupada in Guru Puja every morning. 

All the kirtanas either began with or included Srila Prabhupada pranams. As far as I knew, everyone was a disciple of Srila Prabhupada. I never went around asking devotees who was their guru. I assumed it was Srila Prabhupada. No one ever mentioned that Srila Prabhupada had passed away – not in the Bhakta Program, not in Bhagavad-gita class and not in Srimad-Bhagavatam class. I never thought to ask either. Why would I?

I had yet to see or hear SDG in New York. So when Niranjana prabhu showed me a picture of this very young devotee sitting on a vyasasana, holding a very large bead bag in his right hand and a danda in the other with a stern look on his face, and told me that he was going to be my guru, I felt disillusioned.

That's not Prabhupada. Who is that? He looks too young to be a guru. I felt so ignorant. Not that that was a new feeling. The feeling of ignorance has been a constant one in my life. How could I not know that the Founder-Acarya was no longer on the planet? Even though there were all these zonals passing through I never put two and two together. Talk about being dumb as a rock. This is a stark example of the necessity of inquisitiveness in life in general, and spiritual life in particular.

After that initial feeling of disappointment I followed the instructions of my authorities and the unwritten rule and accepted SDG as my spiritual master. ISKCON was following the Zonal Acarya System and this was SDG's zone, so I accepted that I should aspire to take initiation from him. I was trained to follow orders from a very early age. My father was a Marine who demanded absolute obedience. When I was in the Navy I followed orders without question. It was in my blood to obey authority. So I surrendered and eventually, after a few letters exchanged and two darshans, I received hari-nama initiation, diksa, from SDG.

I surrendered of my own free will.

I will relate one more incident here concerning my personal experience with the "zonal acarya" system.

Adi Kesava Swami held an Istha-ghosti in the temple room with all the devotees in attendance a few weeks before I was initiated. The theme of the Istha-ghosti was pleasing the spiritual master. At first he brought up the subject of the current attempt by the authorities to arrange a marriage between Vakresvara Pandita dasa and a brahmacarini. She had a white body and he had a black body. There were rumors being spread of improper behavior and other such things between them. The source of the rumors was not mentioned by name but by inference.

Adi Kesava asked the general audience of devotees "Is this pleasing to Srila Prabhupada, the spreading of malicious rumors about his disciples? How is it pleasing to our guru when we malign the character of our god-brother and god-sister?" There was no response from the assembled devotees.

Adi Kesava went on. "Ramabhadra, how would you like it if I told your god-brothers and god-sisters all the crazy things that you have revealed to me in confidence? Would that be pleasing to Srila Prabhupada?" Ramabhadra prabhu sat there and shook his head indicating no, it would not.

In hindsight, it may be said that Adi Kesava also was not pleasing Srila Prabhupada by making that embarrassing remark about Ramabhadra before the assembly of devotees. Adi Kesava paused while that sunk in to everyone's consciousness. The inference was obvious even to my dull brain. Then he said my name. "What about bhakta John?"

My heart sank and I wanted to run right out of the temple room. Me? What did I do? First rumors of impropriety, then crazy consciousness and now the finger is pointing at me. What heinous offense did I commit to displease my guru and have it revealed before the entire community of Vaisnavas? This is not good.

"In his initiation letter to Satsvarupa dasa Goswami, this is one of the reasons that bhakta John gave for accepting Satsvarupa Maharaja as his spiritual master. 'My body took birth in New York City. New York City is part of your zone. I therefore surrender unto you, O Gurudeva, and accept you as my spiritual master.'"

Adi Kesava continued. "Srila Satsvarupa Maharaja was very pleased with that response. We were on the plane traveling and as he read that he showed it to me and he was quite pleased. So bhakta John pleased his spiritual master."

I was pleasantly surprised to be held up as an example of pleasing the spiritual master and also relieved. Unfortunately for my spiritual life and SDG's it was a concocted system that was perpetrated on the devotees after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance. The Zonal Acarya System was bogus. I, and so many other unfortunate souls fell for it hook, line and sinker.

[PADA: Brahmananda once confided to me that Satsvarupa actually did not really want to sit on a Vyasasana seat. SDG sort of knew this was way over the top and ostentatious, but Brahmananda told him "its your duty to sit in a Vyasa seat and take worship from your followers." And so Brahmananda encouraged SDG to sit there. 

Thus there were many people who fell for this bogus "Zonal Acharya" process, the "big lie" including a lot of our God brothers. Of course, some of us including myself, Jadurani, Yasodananda, Giriraj, Pradyumna, Mahamsa -- and others -- right away questioned: how we could offer bhogha to conditioned souls, and then call that prasadam? Where was this Zonal Acharya process set up by Srila Prabhupada? Hee hee, of course all of them still have zones even today. 

Anyway, many of our own senior God brothers fell for the "appointed Zonal Acharyas" project big lie -- "hook, line and sinker." Meanwhile, people like me were being denied, and not being given the alleged "guru appointment tape," because "its not for the rank and file devotees to bother their brains with these details."

Some of our other God brothers are even today still falling for this bogus living guru program deviation, hook, line and sinker, including people like Rocana. Rocana still says we need the GBC's to vote in more and more of their living gurus, and these living gurus simply need better "rules" and "tightened enforcement" over their misbehaviors, and voila, all will be well! 

Read: Rocana and his ilk are saying their voted in acharyas are often deviants and debauchees, and their system's whole problem is that the GBC is not acting more forcefully to contain the deviations of their "appointed" acharyas. That means Rocana is basically a follower of Sridhara Maharaja, who says acharyas will deviate and the GBC needs to contain these deviations. 

And if they cannot fix their broke messiahs, because their acharyas are too degraded, they should vote out their gurus. These people still think that acharyas are often debauchees and sinners, who can be censured, suspended, fixed, repaired, reformed -- and if that does not work, removed. 

In other words they think they are authorized to appoint bogus people as gurus, and then review, censure, suspend, monitor, chastise, expel and excommunicate their gurus, because gurus are ordinary mundane men subject to these concocted mundane regulations and reviews, like the CEO of a factory. This is why the Sri Isopanisad says -- fools will select another fool as their acharya, and all of them are gliding to hell. In sum, these people have relativized the acharyas to be ordinary mundane men, which is among the ten offenses to the holy name -- to consider guru as an ordinary man.]    
Temple Room Fire Sacrifice, 340 West 55th Street - 1979

In my humble opinion, that is the preeminent cause of all the current problems in ISKCON. The root problem officially manifested in March of 1978 with the monumental hoax of eleven conditioned souls masquerading as Maha-Bhagavata pure devotees, although the roots began not-so-subtly manifesting years before. They were not qualified to become diksa gurus and they were not ordered by Srila Prabhupada to become diksa gurus.

[PADA: That is really the first thing everyone should have asked, where is the evidence that 11 gurus were appointed? Why was this appointment not announced until after Srila Prabhupada departed? Why would Srila Prabhupada condemn the Gaudiya Matha for appointing gurus, then make the same error? Why would an acharya appoint conditioned souls as his successors? Why did Srila Prabhupada say we need to suspend sannyasa in January of 1977 -- because they are falling down left, right and center, then appoint the same falling down people as his guru successors in May of 1977? And so on and so forth ...]    

That weed has never been fully uprooted. It spread with the "guru reform" (an oxymoron if there ever was one) movement, and then further expanded with the spurious "voted in" guru system, wherein apparently unqualified conditioned souls are "voted in" as diksa gurus for the institution by a group of similarly unqualified conditioned souls. Today there are more than a hundred of these unqualified conditioned souls in ISKCON posing as diksa gurus. What we have today may be called pseudo-ISKCON.

[PADA: The weed has grown and has been supported. Now they are openly saying that Krishna's successor gurus are commonly flawed, failing, and even debauchees. They gave up trying to say their acharyas must be pure, now they say acharyas in general commonly are not pure.]

I was not there when Srila Prabhupada's manifest pastimes concluded. There are so many differing versions of the events of his last days. He appointed eleven. He didn't appoint eleven. He was poisoned. He wasn't poisoned. He wanted all of his disciples to come to Vrndavana to see him. He didn't want all of his disciples to come. Some disciples say they were prevented from going to see him. Others say that never happened. There are so many sides and versions of that crucial time in ISKCON's history, that a fallen conditioned soul like me cannot say, with complete conviction or indisputable evidence, what the truth is. I only offer my insignificant opinion. Except for Srila Prabhupada, only Krsna knows the truth because He is the Absolute Truth.

[PADA: What is factual is that most people now doubt the whole appointed zonal guru "story" put out by the GBC. And it is clear that many bad things have evolved under the "management" of these GBC "living gurus." Many suspect that Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint is valid, and this poison root evolved as the living guru program's giant toxic tree, and so on and so forth. As one devotee told me recently, since most of the victims of the GBC's guru program are not satisfied customers, there is clearly something wrong with their product, and almost everyone now agrees to that. In other words its taken since 1978 for many people to finally agree with what we said back then, that these gurus are not authorized.] 

What I can say, and I speak only for myself based on my own personal experience, is how unlimitedly fortunate I was to have lived in the temple at 340 West 55th Street even though Srila Prabhupada was no longer physically present. In 1978 and 1979, unlike today, the vast majority of devotees who lived in the temple and who charitably gave me their Krsna conscious association, were his direct disciples.

[PADA: An older God brother of mine said he was living there when the 55th street temple was sold and "almost all of the devotees were dispersed into the wind, never to be seen again." And he said furthermore, "There were many tragic stories of devotees being practically homeless and in very dire situations, and in some cases there were actual horror stories of how these devotees suffered after being removed from their temple and service. And worse, some of the devotees were so shocked after being removed from their service to Krishna, they died prematurely." 

That is what Srila Prabhupada warned about, do not sell this 55th street temple or it will mean the devotees will have no home to live in, and they will scatter. Same basic program as here in San Francisco temple, it was closed and the devotees pretty much vanished. And now the current New York temple is also being sold, and once again its destabilising the devotees there. 

So it almost seems like a plan -- to remove devotees left, right and center, and then close or sell the temples. And where does all the money go from the sales of all these temples, farms, houses and properties? Yet another devotee says, this is exactly what Kamsa was doing, he was shutting down all the ceremonial places where Krishna was being worshiped, and the GBC has done the same thing. Cannot really argue with that can we?]

It was a great blessing for me to live in the brahmacari ashram when there were still fresh remnants of the purifying dust of Srila Prabhupada's lotus feet in the hearts of his disciples. Traces of his transcendental footprints were still visible on the altar, in the temple room, in the kitchen, in the prasadam hall and everywhere else in the temple he established for Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha Govinda on 340 West 55th Street, Manhattan, New York City.

I learned the true unchanged basics of bhakti yoga from the original teachings of His Divine Grace. The day-to-day continuous consistent example of his disciples' spiritual humility and loving behavior, and their eager willingness to educate and enlighten this fallen fool, set me on the proper path back to home, back to Godhead.

They weren't forced; it was part of their voluntary service, in separation, to Srila Prabhupada. By their selfless actions, they exhibited their sense of duty to their spiritual master to freely give Krsna consciousness to the fallen conditioned souls.

I will forever be in their debt.

As for the "zonal acaryas" who visited and gave arrival addresses and Srimad-Bhagavatam class, I will give my inconsequential impressions of their differing styles of preaching.

Bhagavan Goswami was the first of the Zonals I witnessed giving Srimad-Bhagavatam class. I had been a resident for about a week or so. He was soft spoken and appeared to be humble.

Bhavananda Goswami was a bit theatrical, sometimes soft spoken and sometimes loud and brash to make a point. I had the impression that his lectures were somewhat rehearsed. He would stop sometimes in the middle of a sentence, repeat the words he just spoke as if he were remembering his lines, and then he would continue. You could tell he enjoyed putting on a performance. I recall in the 80's in the Brooklyn temple, he gave a Sunday Feast lecture, and more than once he stopped speaking in mid-sentence to pose with a big smile for the devotees in the class who were taking pictures of him.

Kirtanananda Swami gave off a wise grandfatherly vibe. He spoke softly and authoritatively. Grandpa had seen it all and done it all and knew it all.

Ramesvara Swami was fired up about book distribution. Preach, preach, and preach. His style was definitely not soft spoken. Even when he spoke in a normal voice and volume, it seemed as if he were yelling at you. And then he would yell at you. You did not fall asleep in his class.

Tamal Krsna Goswami was not-so-affectionately called Turmoil Krsna by some of his god-brothers. I recall one lecture he gave when there was a young man with long blond hair and typical hippie attire in the class. TKG spent almost the entire Srimad-Bhagavatam class attempting to convince the young man to surrender. He was not successful. I was disappointed because he had claimed in a previous lecture that his only opulence, if he had any, was that he could convince people to surrender to Krsna.

Satsvarupa dasa Goswami was also soft spoken in his lectures. In one class, after a few of his "zonal acarya" god-brothers had visited and gave well-received classes, he made a point of stating that he was not there to "put on a show". "It's not a competition."

Once he mentioned that it wasn't a competition it seemed as if there was a bit of a competition, at least in New York, to "put on a show". After all, the news would spread quickly to the other temples if so-and-so maharaja fired up the devotees in New York to preach. There were disciples to be made and guru daksina to accumulate and power to consolidate. It didn't hurt to make a good impression in a Maha temple and enhance your reputation as an advanced devotee, which might increase your popularity and the number of your disciples.

Spiritual competition is transcendental, as long as it is actually spiritual.

The Pada Phenomenon

"Indeed, the advanced uttama-adhikari Vaisnava devotee should be accepted as a spiritual master. Everything one possesses should be offered to him, for it is enjoined that one should deliver whatever he has to the spiritual master. The brahmacari in particular is supposed to beg alms from others and offer them to the spiritual master. However, one should not imitate the behavior of an advanced devotee or Maha-Bhagavata without being self-realized, for by such imitation one will eventually become degraded." (The Nectar of Instruction, text Five, page 58)

As far as I understand, the title Prabhupada means the master at whose feet all other masters sit. All eleven "zonal acaryas", in apparent imitation of their spiritual master, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, the Founder-Acarya of ISKCON, took similar honorific titles such as Gurupada, Visnupada, Bhaktipada, Bhagavatpada, Acharyadeva and so on.

Prior to the all-merciful intervention of the authentic Maha-Bhagavata devotee of Lord Krsna, those same eleven disciples of Srila Prabhupada had spent their lives as mlecchas, engaging in illicit sex, meat eating, gambling and intoxication.

Since His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami accepted the honorific title of Prabhupada from his disciples, those original eleven, who now apparently saw themselves as equals to their spiritual master, felt that they should also have similar honorific titles. One justification they offered was that their disciples would see them in a similar light as the Founder-Acarya. It would be good for the faith of their followers and ISKCON as a whole.

I fear that Maya covered them all with a cloak of forgetfulness. They forgot about their recent past spent on the mundane platform of existence and began mistakenly promoting their ostentatious worship as Maha Bhagavatas. It is tragic that their actions caused so many of their god-brothers and god-sisters to leave Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON. The mass exodus of Srila Prabhupada's disciples did not seem to matter to them once their opulent lifestyles were established.

In my humble opinion, what mattered most was the swift consolidation of power over all of ISKCON. They were transformed by Maya into mad elephants trampling their devotional creepers. They similarly crushed anyone who opposed their narcissistic hegemony. If you didn't bow down at their feet you would feel those feet kicking you out the door.

Becoming a "pada" was just part of the process of diminishing the paramount spiritual stature of the Founder-Acarya, Srila Prabhupada, forcing their god-brothers and god-sisters to accept their fabricated elevated position and worship them or leave, and taking complete control of all the assets of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON.

I apologize if some of my words were harsh. I really tried to be inoffensive but what I believe to be the truth got the better of me.

(To be continued…)

[PADA: Very good, the citizens are waking up, that's all there is to it. And the living guru project will go down in history as one of the most serious vaishnava aparadhas ever promoted. And according to shastra, the people promoting these false guru deviations will go to the lowest regions of the universe after they finish this guru business. Sounds like a fitting end to their story. ys pd]