Monday, November 24, 2014

ISKCON Mumbhai Crimes On TV



[PADA: Wow! We had this same program's criminal actions exposed on TV in the 1980s, over here in the USA, and its now finally getting on TV over there. Yep, they are crooks, plain and simple. Worse, these crooks are trying to empower an illicit sex guru program. Crooked and immoral all at once. DAYARAMA even sent me a message that its true, the GBC has been promoting deviants as acharyas.

Anyway, this is good "Jayapataka Sisya Samuha" is implicated as are the leaders of Bombay ISKCON. We are glad these folks are finally getting some (USA style) "court justice." I love the sort of "Satanic" music they keep playing in the background here, hee hee! Fits quite well.

Anyway, the GBC is really getting desperate to use these types of criminal manipulation tactics. Look at some of the criminal charges: Scandalizing the court; Subverting the Judicial; Blackmail; Unlawful influence of the Judiciary; Criminal contempt of Court; Theft of photos; Extortion; Cheating; Forgery; Forgery for purpose of cheating; Forgery of electronic record; Conspiracy with others, etc. ISKCON Bombay's Varada Krishna is also being charged, and the CID (India's FBI) is involved.. Yep, we said they are crooks, and they are. PADA's predictions are -- almost always -- proven correct. ys pd

Srila Prabhupada Disciples Legacy Project



PADA: Of course we helped formulate and document the idea that anyone who follows Srila Prabhupada today is -- or can be -- his disciple now -- whether pre-or post 1977. And a whole lot of people subsequently agreed with us, and thus the post-1977 "current Srila Prabhupada disciples" idea is being implemented almost worldwide in different examples. Anyway we hope this site brings forward some good nectar realizations and helps with some of the relevant issues of ISKCON today. ys pd 


http://www.spdisciples.com/

From: Nandalal Dasi

ATTENTION ALL DISCIPLES OF SRILA PRABHUPADA

INITIATED PRIOR TO NOV 14, 1977:

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

This notice is to inform you of the official launch on December 10th, of a fully interactive website designed specifically for you! YOU have been a vital participant in the creation of the Hare Krishna Movement. That makes you a most essential part of the History of Srila Prabhupada’s appearance on this planet.

One of the primary purposes of this website is to locate all of Srila Prabhupada disciples so they are ALL included as a part of that history! What if you are not included? Please take the time to sign in letting us know how to contact you by clicking on this link: http://www.spdisciples.com

What if you could be in contact with devotees you haven’t seen years? Srila Prabhupada’s complete disciples database will be fully interactive on this website, and you will be able to find old friends and devotees with just the click of a mouse!

Do you think every devotee should be included with a photo and profile? Currently there is no central place where a photo of every disciple of Srila Prabhupada is included with a brief profile. This website will do all of that, securely.

At the present time, we have worked to update the list of 4,720 initiated disciples, out of which we have contact info for about 1,500 devotees. This means that 3,220 names are missing contact information. Are you one those?

What about Memorials with photos for all those that have left their bodies? These are not being stored anywhere in a central location on an organized basis. This website will fill that void also!

Please pre-register here: http://www.spdisciples.com

Your servants at The Legacy Project.

For further questions you may contact:
legacy@spdisciples.com
706-232-6681

November 24, 2014

DISCLAIMER: The Legacy Project is a not directly affiliated with ISKCON or any organization, although we maintain all relevant relationships to accomplish the objectives. Since the project's inception the attempt has been primarily to compile a complete database of Srila Prabhupada's disciples, bring them together, and get their memories saved for the future.

Sunday, November 23, 2014

Videos of Vrndavana Chandrodaya Speeches

http://news.vrindavantoday.org/2014/11/videos-vrindavan-chandrodaya-speeches/

[PADA: Really nice glorification of Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON by Pranab Mukherjee.] 

Sacinandana Swami's Ramesh Baba Program



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Sacinandana Swami Exposed as Sahajiya

BY: JAGANNATH DAS

I would like to present a very interesting conversation between Sacinandana Swami and Ramesh Babaji Maharaj. This video went viral after it was published by Ramesh Baba's Maan Mandir account on YouTube, but was swiftly removed within one day. Luckily it was saved and uploaded again. It perfectly displays all the main features of a sahajiya movement within ISKCON:

[PADA: The other GBC "gurus" most likely ordered Sacinandana Swami's folks to remove the videos that had been advertising their visiting Ramesh Babaji, because these videos would indirectly invite more and more ISKCON people to follow Sacinanadana's lead -- and run off to the Radha Kunda babajis.

All along since 1978 the GBC guru's program has been losing "rank and file" members to these "Indian gurus" left, right and center, thus NOWADAYS they have to try to squash advertising of their own LEADERS promoting and associating with various Gaudiya Matha and Babaji "gurus." At the same time, the GBC's "gurus" have already directly advertised for many "outside gurus" particularly from the Gaudiya Matha since 1978, and this has lead to a mass exodus from ISKCON to these "outside gurus" already.


Ramesh Babaji

Of course as soon as we say that ISKCON should NOT be associated with these Babajis, Gaudiya Matha gurus, Tantrics, Ghost Busters etc. ... then the GBC's "gurus" and their defenders like Bhakta Das say we SHOULD be associated with these outside folks, and we Prabhupada aligned devotees are "making offenses to great souls." Apparently, there is little (or none) notice from the GBC's gurus and their supporters that due to these "outside authorities" rubber stamping and endorsing the GBC's "guru system," this is creating havoc and deterioration for the ISKCON institution itself? 

Not only has the so-called GBC's ilk been upset with PADA for challenging their "guru" program, their sympathizers and disciples of Bhakta das like Prahlad and his HKC Jaipur folks (who are busy making videos of Bhakta das and promoting him as their spokesman and authority) are also infuriated we are opposing their hero and shiksha guru Bhakta das -- and we are thus challenging their ISKCON Gaudiya Matha and Babaji evolution program, never mind we exposed Bhakta's "guru's" Haitian Disco project way before anyone else even knew there was a problem. Yes, these people are even upset that we are exposing their Haitian Disco program, never mind their sahajiya infiltration problem. 

Did we forget to mention that Bhakta das promotes Mahanidhi's "Radha Kunda Babaji" program, and Bhakta's shiksha guru BV Puri promoted Gopal Krishna, Radhanath and Narayana Maharajas and so on? And Radhanath's program buried Kirtanananda's carcass in Vrdnavana? Radhanath swami is connected to the entire New Vrndavana criminal meltdown fiasco, why is he still "a saint" in Sacinandana's program?  

Why is Sacinananda swami connected to a program that promotes Radhanath as a saint, knowing that program buries dead deviants in the holy dham? And why doesn't Ramesh Babaji say, "Hey guess what, we cannot bury dead deviants in the holy dham, and we need to drive that program out of the holy dham"? 

Where is the interest in keeping the purity and integrity of the holy dham? And why is it that its almost always us fallen ex-mlecchas have to point out that we cannot bury bogus fools in the holy dham? And why is HKC Jaipur not over there in Vrndavana with signs protesting the burying of deviants in the holy dham, and instead they are protesting PADA because we want deviants NOT to be buried there? 

These guys could not organize a protest of the mis-use of a bag of peanuts, much less mis-use of the holy dham for the past 35 years. Yep, as soon as we say we should not bury deviants on the holy dham these guys protest -- us! Lets face it, all of these folks would rather have deviants worshiped in the holy dham than have us and Bangalore re-establish the worship of Srila Prabhupada in the holy dham. 

And thus, most of these people are united against PADA, including many from the GBC, various Gaudiya Matha folks, Bhakta das, HKC Jaipur etc, -- and they similarly ALL oppose Bangalore making a Srila Prabhupada centered temple in Vrndavana, because they are either with the Sacinandana swami /  Bhakta das / Radhanath program -- of burying dead deviants like Kirtanananda in the holy land -- or they would rather have that program take charge of the holy land than our Prabhupada centered program -- because they love the deviants more than Srila Prabhupada. 

In any case, these assembled folks would rather see the worship of illicit sex in the holy dham than the worship of Srila Prabhupada, because they ALL oppose those of us who want that process removed, and that is why the worship of illicit sex has been going on there.

They all know us and Bangalore oppose the process of polluting the holy dham with bogus acharyas. Why not join Bangalore and protest burying dead deviants in the holy land? Nope, they oppose Bangalore because they want the deviants to remain as the main source of political power and influence there.  

So all these various out croppings and influences are inter-connected, basically its the same people who invited in the Gaudiya Matha's gurus, and later invited in the Babajis, Fakir Mohan, the GBC's ghost buster Chitesvara etc. etc. And all of these outside influences were brought in by the GBC (and their hand maidens like Bhakta das)  to rubber stamp and empower their bogus GBC guru program, because they knew we (most of the God brothers) were not going to promote their guru program. And all of the GBC gurus, their Gaudiya Matha advisors, their Rasika teachers, Bhakta das and his disciples, etc. they all opposed PADA because we kept pointing out that their "servant of Radha" gurus are -- defective and unauthorized.     

OK, even we have to admit that its probably better to associate with Ramesh Babaji than to be watching football on TV with Satsvarupa, or to be watching a homosexual marriage at Krishna West, but the problem remains that ISKCON's GBC are not making a much better alternative to these Babaji programs, or the GBC program is a worse deviation than the Babajis and Gaudiya Matha's. At least some of these Gaudiya Matha folks try to follow the principles and live austere lives. 

The whole reason people are even discussing -- Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, BV and BP Puri, Ramesh Babaji, Ananta Vasudeva's disciples like Fakir Mohan, etc. is because the bogus GBC are driving their people over to these folks camps and telling the members of ISKCON that these folks are the GBC's "higher authorities" for ISKCON. We should not even be discussing these folks because we were told not to associate with them. 

Yes, people tell us all these folks are "nice guys," and "they are helping ISKCON people when they lose faith in the process," ... except these "nice guys" are causing the whole problem in ISKCON by supporting and endorsing the GBC's gurus. And thus, when people lose faith in the GBC gurus, they end up "taking shelter" of these "GBC rasika advisors." The GBC is the pied piper leading the entire society over to these "other" camps, then they wonder aloud why ISKCON has been over-taken by these other camps? Go look in a mirror!  

Indeed, at one time Narayan Maharaja was bragging that he has "more ISKCON people" in his mission than the GBC's have in the official ISKCON mission, and he may have been correct. In short, the GBC's "gurus" often spawn their own competition by advertising outside gurus as their "shiksha advisors" and so on. The GBC leaders already know -- by now -- this policy has been bleeding members away from the official ISKCON mission all along starting with Sridhara Maharaja in 1978, so they do not want to start another stampede over to the Ramesh Babaji program. 

And a devotee from North Carolina wrote to tell us Tripurari swami is siphoning off people from ISKCON, so this is a big problem for ISKCON, but this process was all started when the GBC itself told everyone they had to take shelter of all these outside programs.]

Not caring for Srila Prabhupada's instructions not to associate with Radhakunda babajis (Letter to Nitai - Los Angeles, 7 June 1976)

Insisting on feelings (as opposed to sastric quotes, sadhana and preaching)

Desire to enjoy (hard work and pushing yourself and others for Srila Prabhupada is not considered pleasurable)

Mayavadi oneness (discriminating shown as bad, all devotees need to be loved, doesn't matter what nonsense or deviation are they engaged in)

Only mentioning feelings to Radharani and feelings to material things (feelings toward Srila Prabhupada are nowhere to be found)

Having discussions on extremely low intellectual level (it's hard to believe that this is actually a disciple of the greatest preacher that came to western world, greatest senapati bhakta general Srila Prabhupada. Introductory books written by Srila Prabhupada such as Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers are unlimitedly more interesting than this conversation.)

It seems to be very hard, almost impossible to uproot sahajiyas from ISKCON, but at least we can show our disagreement by exposing them. And yes, you can laugh freely, this really looks like cheap soap opera.

Video Transcript

Ramesh Baba: I'm very lucky to see you!

Sacinandana Swami: Ha ha ha! Somehow you have chosen to give me your affection since a long time, and that affection is still, after a long time in your heart, and I also feel the same. I've visited you many years and you were always smiling on me, and I was always happy to feel your affection. Thank you very much! How is our lion of Braj? Health is...

Ramesh Baba: Small insect of Braj.

Sacinandana Swami: Ha ha ha! Hare Krishna! I was very, very happy when I listened to your talk in Govardhan, for two reasons. I like very much the bhava which you bring, this mood, like you sang: We only need Radharani! We only need Radharani! And you explained seven ashrayas which I have to go. I felt very, very happy and some almost like.. yes, great utsahan came in my heart. It was really a present which I took from that visit, that we only need Radharani. YES! It is true! I felt like this. And the second reason I was very happy that you pursue `The Yamuna cause` so strongly.

[PADA: Why do people need to get outside advice that "we only need to worship Radharani" from Ramesh Babaji? Srila Prabhupada taught us already that we need to pray for the mercy of both Radha AND Krishna together. Srila Prabhupada says we cannot worship Krishna without Radha and we cannot worship Radha without Krishna, why should this policy be changed? Then again, the worship of Radharani is done by the intimate gopis and sakhis in Krishna's inner circle of associates, so this is another sahajiya program, promoting the most advanced forms of worship among neophytes.]

Ramesh Baba: Yes!

Sacinandana Swami: I am very happy and I am always telling Madayanti she should make that her main work because she has some political understanding, and she can, maybe, help in some ways.

Today I want to ask very important question for me. I was visiting your yatra and I immediately could feel, there was so much affection between the devotees. Somehow, by your guidance, you have created a very affectionate relationship among the devotees. You also spoke about this. On the first day you said: trnad api sunicena. There should be no fights. Everyone should be humble, and then the yatra will be successful. I noticed that because, as you know, I am a member of a movement and when I come and visit you, my first reason is: I come to visit a person who I like so much, but then I also look how is he doing everything to be so nice. Like this...That interest is there.

[PADA: This is actually a real and huge problem for the contemporary Krishna devotees, there is little unity or "love and trust" and there are a number of divided camps. Unfortunately, Sacinandana swami is one of the persons responsible for the main cause of all these schisms by his support of the worst clique of all, the GBC's gurus. 

Instead of visiting with our Prabhupadanuga associates, Sacinandana is visiting with the Babajis. And instead of making "a nice friendly family of devotees" with us, the Sacinandana program is spending allegedly $20 million dollars suing the Prabhupada devotees to have our folks driven out of ISKCON. 

Where is his family mood? 

Worse, current and ex-members of Sacinandana's so-called ISKCON family have to keep posting "fundme" collections for those in dire need of basic material welfare, thus they cannot afford to get health care, housing, heating bills paid etc. -- but there is meanwhile apparently $20 million to spend on lawyers in Sacinandana's program to sue -- us? One temple sent us an advertisement where they were collecting money for a washing machine for the temple's clothes to be washed. They cannot afford to wash their devotee's clothes, but there is always plenty of money for Mercedes for their hokey gurus and millions for lawyers?

The main counter group that is organizing outside the GBC are the so-called ritviks, and this program is growing gradually. However, to be fair this is a valid point made by Sacinanandana swami, there seems to be little cooperation, love, trust and care among the various Krishna groups, and this is hampering the growth of the overall program, just like the Gaudiya Matha's schisms hampered if not destroyed their preaching. Some devotees recently reported how nice they felt going to a "Mother Amma" program because the people there were so nice, caring and affectionate. 

Yep, treating people nicely is attractive. 

Caring for one's fellow congregation members is also attractive. For example: in our hometown area, the Mormon Church has all sorts of outreach and support systems for their members. They have a food bank for their poor members; They send expert plumbers and carpenters (who are their own church's members) over to fix poor people's homes; They are sending young men over to the homes of the elderly in their church to assist the elderly etc. 

They even have an "elder watch" program that was visiting an elderly lady neighbor's house on our street, to make sure she was OK. Eventually, she died, and then they sent another crew of men over there with a big truck to clean up her house and help the relatives deal with the situation. In sum, they have love and concern for one another, that is something we are not seeing very much in the Krishna community. As one person told us, "You can judge a society by how well it treats its members, and the overall Krishna community does little or nothing to look after its members, unless one is in the upper crust management, in which case one will live like a Saudi Prince."] 

The second thing is - I've also noticed this bhava, so strong! It comes from you and your devotees picked it up, all these padayatris.

[PADA: That's the first problem, Srila Prabhupada wanted his devotees to be preaching in the West and not all the time going on "parikramas" and "padayatras" around Vrndavana, Goverdhan etc., which seems to be the main program nowadays. This is the result of this Babaji association, the preaching is going down and the ISKCON devotees are hanging out in Vrndavana trying to find some "rasika Babaji association" instead.] 

In my spiritual life I came to the level or to the understanding that I feel very strongly a need to feel like a relationship to Radha and Krishna; some sambandha. Because only then bhava can come. And I know, without bhava I (and I`m not speaking now about the stage before prema, just normal bhava) without this everything is just so much work and one needs to push himself and others.

[PADA: If one STILL needs to find a way to experience the bhava platform, then one is NOT yet self-realized, and one is NOT qualified to be in the post of guru. This is what we find all the time in ISKCON, the guru is "trying to find a way" to stop watching football, drink near beer, have illicit sex, and so on, because ISKCON is advertising neophytes as pure gurus, this is sahajiya on steroids.]

So, if you could be so kind to speak a little bit on the subject matter of sambandha, or relationship to Radha and Krishna, and to feel some feelings there. Because if there are no feelings for Radha and Krishna, these feeling will be for the material things. I believe that is your secret you have, and I'm coming as a beggar to beg some bhava from you, or some instructions.

[PADA: Its no secret, their not following Srila Prabhupada is causing these GBC gurus to fall down left, right and center. They are not experiencing the higher taste because they are trying to usurp the post of acharya, which is a material desire.]

Ramesh Baba: Relationship with Sriji... the source of relationship is only that we should love the lovers of Radharani, devotees. And without love to the devotees, there is nothing. One cannot achieve anything.

[PADA: Correct, declaring war on the Srila Prabhupada devotees and kicking them all out has made ISKCON into almost nothing. Even Lokanatha swami wrote in 1988 that ISKCON has become "a ghost town, where have they all gone"? Well, you and your program drove them all out. So this is quite correct, without love for the devotees, there is nothing, and ISKCON is a classic example of this, their temples are empty, because they have no love for the vaishnavas.] 

The main difficulty in our Vaishnava communities: the friction of..."We are Gaudiya, he is European, he is English, he is Indian, he is Bengali, he is Maharashtri..." These all things are the hindrances of Bhakti Marga. In Braja bhumi every yatra hates Bengalis, but we have great care and respect for Bengalis. There is no provinciality, no difference: sadhu, grihasti, there is no difference of caste, so the pure nectar of devotion runs in yatra.

[PADA: We have heard this complaint before that the Bengalis are not so much welcome in Vrndavana -- one reason -- because there has a number of Bengali "widows" there who are seen as a burden. Of course, Bengal is the birth place of Lord Chaitanya, so you'd think they would welcome these folks? This simply proves that there is still social status consciousness, class consciousness, caste and racial discrimination, even in the holy dham.]

There is no difference of money; "he is giving", "he's rich man", "we expect something". There is no difference. Everybody lives in the same tent and no facilities, lies on earth, sleeps on earth and the same food - prasad. Nothing superior in anything for anyone else. This is the main factor. No selfish motive from anybody.

[PADA: This is a good program, if this is how it works, all the members have equal facility. ISKCON used to work like that, all the brahmacharis lived in one room, the brahmacharinis lived in another, there was no special deal for the "big GBC gurus" to live in their own opulent private places.] 

Sacinandana Swami: Thank you. You have given very important instructions. First the relationship to devotees. Without that...

[PADA: That is always the question, how come Sacinandana's gurus drive out all of the Prabhupada devotees, then they go to the Babajis for association?]

Ramesh Baba: It is quite impossible. If you are not loving devotee, it is impossible for anybody. Whether he is educated, or he is non-educated ...

Sacinandana Swami: Yes, it makes a lot of sense. I think Sriji expects that Her devotees are full of daya, full of compassion, not full of bheda of making differences. Like always, you have given a lot of information in a short sentence.

Ramesh Baba: Everybody is narrow-minded. He is saint, he is grihasti, he is male gender, she is female gender, he is Gaudiya, he is ISKCON, he is not ISKCON...

Sacinandana Swami: (laugh of approval) Ja...

[PADA: Clearly, Sacinandana Swami is embarrassed to be known as a member of ISKCON. It has now become officially a joke to be a member of ISKCON, because the GBC has destroyed its credibility. Now people are making fun of how silly it is to be either -- a member -- or non-member of ISKCON, and the leaders are laughing too, because they know the mission has lost its credibility. 

If we would tell some Christians that it does not matter if they are members of their church or not, they would be highly offended because they are proud to be a member of their particular church. Thus, even the GBC leaders feel no pride in being a member of ISKCON, because they have driven the reputation down the drain, so even they are joking "who cares if one is a member of our church or not." Doesn't that means they never cared about the reputation of the movement the whole time?]

Sacinandana Swami: It seems, and I may ask question of this: I understand fully what you've said. I can see the truth in it, it seems that movements who have missionary goals in their eyes want money and they need money and they need people, and therefore because, they want to attain certain goals, they try to make their group strong so that they can reach their goals and at that time, they have this differentiation in there. I see that you, I know that you don't want to make a big movement, but so many people come on your yatra, more than anyone, and there is this goshala with 30,000 cows are there, I mean, it is now becoming something very big. Ramesh baba is not longer just...

Ramesh Baba: At the beginning there was just 5 cows, and now there is 30 000, more then, and every day increasing.

Sacinandana Swami: Yes, yes, every day and no cow is sent away. So, somehow, Ramesh babaji has also become a really big organisation, he may not have wanted it but it is growing and still you are able to have no differentiation. Don't you sometimes come in situation that you say:" I want to attain this, I want Yamunaji to come back to Braj, I need to have some people who work on this and I need some money and they should not go anywhere else." and then, I'm trying to say that in organizations who want to do good sometimes this idea of differentiation and "let's keep our own people", this is ISKCON, this is not ISKCON (laughter), and so on, that comes...

[PADA: Yes this is silly, being a member of ISKCON or not, its become a joke to be "one of the ISKCON men," and even the leaders are agreeing. The leaders have made ISKCON into such a joke, people no longer want to be identified as a member, including the leaders, even they are laughing at the concept of being or not being a member.]

Ramesh Baba: That situation came with me also. Due to lack of money, 2 years before I announced no yatra will be held. But it was only false words. My heart was singing: "no! Yatra will run." and see what happens, because people were giving money for help and they...

Some man: They were diverted actually.

Ramesh Baba: So our sources were... And without sources it was only a show. But who are saints living here, I called a meeting: "What should we do?" The saints answered that we will collect madhukari, begging, you know?

[PADA: Right, people are giving up on ISKCON and supporting other programs.]

Sacinandana Swami: Yes, yes, a few chapatis.

Ramesh Baba: And more than 10 000 yatris we will fulfill. The program was made, "I will give you a Jeep, and ten saints in this village, ten in second village, ten in third village". In this way, if we make more than 100 teams, that will be easy, no need of money, but Sriji gave the source, some money and it is again running.

Better to stop the yatra, not to share ? arrangement. We can not go doors to doors for donation. It is quite impossible.

Sacinandana Swami: Yes, Sriji has given you this nistha...

Ramesh Baba: Yatra is not a prestige point of Maan mandir. If it is not running, all right. As Sriji wants. If She is not wanting, stop that. We will collect madhukari, and not for begging money for anybody.

Sacinandana Swami: I very much admire your faith in Sriji and your absolute dependence on Her.

Ramesh Baba: The same is case is ? yatra. ? More than crores of rupies.

Man: Many crores.

Ramesh Baba: Means many dollars. But we don't go for collection. This yatra is the biggest of the previous yatras. More than 15 000.

Man: Baba, more than 17 point something registrations are already there. But there are many, many devotees who come every year, never do registration, so they are more than 2000-3000, so approximately, more than 20,000 this year.

Ramesh Baba: And, panditji said: "Do not run yearly, it should run on donating years.", but Radha can't say no if run yearly.

Sacinandana Swami: I remember when you were in Kamyavan and you were protesting against the exploitation of the mountains, you said: "We are in the government of Radharani". That's out government. Alla Beli? Alla belli means government? I remember still.

Ramesh Baba: "You need government, Alla belli".

Sacinandana Swami: Acca, yes, yes. I remember this. We are all trying to be devotees, when someone lives this full surrender: "We don't need anyone else than Radharani, only Radharani's will, the government of Radharani.", this is a dream, which we all have to live on that level, but I think it's only possible. You please correct me, but is my thinking correct, you can only make yourself totally dependent on Radharani and not make any own security arrangements when you are accepted like this by Radharani.

[PADA: Well this is good, we should only depend on Krishna, so why does the GBC depend instead on false guru appointments, and subsequent banning, beating and assassinating people to stay in power?]

Sacinandana swami: I want to give you an example: I had this very severe problem, shingle case, I came from Australia, and I had done my booking in the daily hospital. When I would come from Australia, I would go right into the daily hospital, Ayur Vedic hospital, for treating this problem, because it was so bad, the pain was so big, I couldn't sleep for 3 weeks. It was really bad.

[PADA: This is another pattern here, these gurus are almost always getting sick, falling down, or both. In fact these gurus chronic sickness is clearly an epidemic since, many (or most) of them have been -- or are -- currently sick, if not very sick, and a number have already died.]



Chronic Health Problems in GBC Gurus?

Then, I said, well, now I am in Delhi, I can't go directly to the hospital, let me go to Vrindavan, to Radhakund, let me do some bhajan, then I'll go to hospital. When I went to Radhakund, I felt, o Braj is so wonderful, do I really need to go to the hospital, and I said to myself, why don't I follow Ramesh baba's idea. Radharani is my hospital, I though like this, so for seven days, I didn't go to the hospital, but I stayed at Radha-kund, and I was hoping I would be able to stay the whole day and Radharani would give her injections and take care.

But, the pain became just so bad and so strong that the devotees who were with me, said: "You must go to the hospital. " Then, after one week, I went to the daily hospital and came back in the last week of Kartik.

So my question is: Does it work for everyone, that he says, Radharani is the only, I don't need the hospital and daily, Radharani is the only government and so on or does it only work for Ramesh baba? I am sorry to ask this question, in German, I hope I'm not impolite in speaking.

Ramesh Baba: Such type of faith and concentration was with Prahlad ji. When he was burned in fire, and ultimate weapons were used for Prahlada. And more than atomic weapons. Dangers. Digaraj, the Deities who are holding the whole direction. They were brought by the order of Hiranyakasipu. And all were in vain, only Prahlada succeeded. Such type of faith is in the hand of Sri Ji, not in the hand of any man. Human bodied.

Sacinandana Swami: It has to be given by Sri ji.

Ramesh Baba: Yes, she will give you, a day will come. In the same way, My yatra is ?, when all finances were stopped, every help was stopped. But due to mercy of Radharani it is alive.

Sacinandana Swami: Practical proof. Practical proof. Yes. Thank you very much for your ...

Ramesh Baba: If yatra is stopped, let it be stopped. But we are not going in the shelter of any rich person. If it is stopped, stop it.

Sacinandana Swami: Thank you very much, you satisfied my heart very much with your answers. Thank you very much. Very much appreciated, that you talked philosophically and practically. Yes. I understand.

Ramesh Baba: Locan bubble burst, and the wall was damaged. There are four walls in the heart, one of them was damaged. Eight doctors came here to see me, and they suggested for operation. But I was not in the mood of that. Better to die.

Sacinandana Swami: You have done many, many years of great seva here in Braj. You are very dear to Radharani. We can all see and respect that. Wonderful. Yes. No, we can all see it and we are very touched to see someone. And it was not easy, I remember, in the very begging when you stayed here, some bad people were coming with sticks. I believe, they didn't want you to be here. I've heard something, and I was staying here for the month of Kartik. You had to pay the price to Radharani. I am staying here. I will do my ...

Ramesh Baba: 60 years ago, Maan mandir was a place of dacoits.

[PADA: Well right, Srila Prabhupada mentions that dacoits sometimes live near the holy places to attack the pilgrims.]

Sacinandana Swami: And why did you come to Maan mandir?

Ramesh Baba: It was only one place in Vraja, alone, It was not occupied actually, and it was very sacred according to epics. No one was visiting this place because of dacoits. In the day, one can not come here in Maan Mandir. Daytime.

Sacinandana Swami: Night, no question? We thank you very much. We brought present from your dear beloved Sri ji, from Sri Ji Mandir this morning, she was wearing. Can I give? Thank you very, very much, we wish you all success. I will not take more of your time.

And thank you also for your kindness to allow us use your hall. I spoke today in the begging about your nistha, that the Holly name brings Krishna. Badri-vishal prabhu, he told me that ten months ago, the Deities in Sankit were actually stolen, and you were asked to make the installation or the prana pratistha ceremony for newly purchased Deities. And you said: "No, no. Better you do harinam and that will bring Krishna." Then later, the Deity was found by some policemen who checked one man who was on a bicycle and he found out he had the bag with Deities on his bicycle. And this way by the chanting the Deity came back.

I told them: "This is Ramesh baba, who is giving us hall for this day, has said: "the Nam brings Radha and Krishna."

I thank you very much, for your nistha, it is a great joy for all the Vaisnavas to hear what you say on the nistha and to see how you move. You are inspiring, not only the yatris but really everywhere, you give so much inspiration and especially because you don't make this bheda. This difference. That is a very good point. Somehow your heart does not know "this Vaisnava, or that Vaisnava". It is very good. We can all learn a lot from this example.

Thank you much. I will not take more of your time. You are studying, you are now with the sastras and I should not take more time. You've given already so much santosh to my heart. I wish you all the best. Good health, may you stay many years amongst us because we need good examples. We need such good examples.

With your permission, I will go.
Hare Krishna.

[PADA: Right, we should not make distinctions based on bodily platform, except, as soon as someone does not want to worship the GBC's debauchee guru program they should be sued and kicked out. Oh no, and Sacinandana Swami is in charge of this program?:] 

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Bhaktivedanta College a Feminist Stronghold

BY: KRISHNA DASA

It is not surprising that Bhaktivedanta College in Radhadesha is so confused about the questions that Haladhara Prabhu asked in Reflections on Vaisnavi-dharma. They actually reject what Srila Prabhupada and sastra say about women's duties and concoct their own idea. How has this come about? By the influence of feminists like Urmila dd, Laxmimoni dd, Annuttama Prabhu and his wife Rukmini, Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu and Sacinandana Swami.

[PADA: Women as a class have been alienated from post-1977 ISKCON due to mistreatment and exploitation. Then again, almost all the men have almost all left as well. Then again the second generation of ISKCON gurukula children have almost all been alienated and have left as well. The GBC are trying to encourage the few remaining women they have left, by offering them a post as gurus and shastric advisory leaders, otherwise they won't have practically anyone left.]   

Sacinandana Swami has a big influence at Bhaktivedanta College because the husband of Anupama dd, Dinadayal Prabhu is a disciple of Sacinandana Swami. Dinadayal Prabhu is one of the heads at Bhaktivedanta College plus has a big role in the Euro GBC.

[PADA: Correct, Sacinanandana Swami is clearly part of the Radha Kunda babaji sahajiya culture of ISKCON, and so the GBC makes him the leader of their biggest Bhaktivedanta College program, because the whole GBC group is compromised with the babaji sahajiya culture.]

This nonsense about women having their own varna with their own duties is especially promoted by Urmila dd, (who considers herself a brahmana in her own right and promotes herself as an acarya and guru). Why is it nonsense? Because the only duty that the woman has is to serve her husband as explained by Narada Muni in Srimad Bhagavatam 7.11.25:

"To render service to the husband, to be always favorably disposed toward the husband, to be equally well disposed toward the husband's relatives and friends, and to follow the vows of the husband — these are the four principles to be followed by women described as chaste."

[PADA: Well yes, women in the West were previously almost always in the role of a house-wife, and this was the case all along in Christian culture even up to the 1960s. And these women were seen as dependent on their "male wage earner" partners. Such roles are changing in Western society, and even in Christian culture today, but overall Srila Prabhupada encouraged women to be married (as the Christians have done up to recently).] 

To understand what I mean by rebellious and unchaste (recalling Narada Muni's definition of a chaste woman SB 7.11.25) take a look at this text by Pratyatosha Prabhu, Urmila's former husband. He explains how Urmila dd developed an unchaste relationship with another man, Bir Krsna Goswami, and conspired with him to have her husband Pratyatosa Prabhu removed from the board of directors of the school they had started. She then forced him into a legal separation. He writes:

"In 1996, she obtained a restraining order and a legal separation from me against my wishes. Now that I've been gone for over 3 years, BKG is more than likely still doing things for her that a husband would normally do."

[PADA: Right, we heard the cottage of Urmila and Bir Krishna were not far apart in the woods and they could easily be with one another. In any case Bir Krishna became Urmila's confidential advisor.]

Yet she claims in her application to be a guru that: "My situation has been stable for some time. I'm living separated from husband as vanaprastha since 1996; we have a legal separation agreement. I'm under the authority of our sons and son-in-law. I will soon have own cabin for residence."

(urmiladasi.wordpress.com)

In vanaprastha it s the husband who is the vanaprastha, not the wife, she continues to serve him. But in Urmila's typical twisted logic she is the "vanaprastha" and having an unchaste relationship with another man forces her husband to leave. She has violated sastra by renouncing her prescribed duties Bg 18.7-8.

Thus to rationalize her adharmaic and unchaste behavior Urmila dd has concocted a bogus philosophy that women have their own varna and duties so that she can act independently. And since she is allowed to have an influence in ISKCON by fellow feminists in the NA GBC (Bir Krsna Goswami (her mentor and maybe more), Anuttama, Malati, Bhakti Marga Swami, Ravindra Swarupa et al.) who all have a major influence at the Bhaktivedanta College. She then teaches her concocted appasiddhantic ideas at the Bhaktivedanta College and it is then no wonder why the college is philosophically at odds with sastra and put women in charge of teaching men.

[PADA: Its more than that really, the Shastric Advisory Committee (SAC) also advises the GBC's gurus, so these people are not just advising men, they are advising the GBC's messiahs. And they expect to be rewarded for their aiding the GBC guru process, by being voted in as "female gurus."]

So here we have textbook example of an unchaste woman*, Urmila dd, being promoted by the leadership of the NA GBC to be a diksha guru in ISKCON. She is now also the Chairman of the SAC (Sastra Advisory Committee), and is using this position along with other corrupt members of SAC like Yadunanda Swami (principle of Bhaktivedanta College), Drutakarma, Madana Mohana, Caitanya Charan (Pune) et al. to persuade the GBC to install Female Diksha Gurus. She of course wants to be one of them.

[PADA: Right, not many people are stepping up to take the post of messiah for the GBC these days, if they can get some women on board that will help keep the hokey messiah's program moving along for a little longer, otherwise it is dying out.]

So considering all the secular influences on this school it is not surprising that in such a short time Bhaktivedanta College has already become useless. Any student who attends this college will be permanently scarred spiritually and it will take a great deal of effort for them to ever have the correct understanding of siddhanta.

Respected universities like Oxford and Cambridge started out as schools of theology but over time compromised with secular society and are now bastions of atheism. If in such a short time secular culture has gotten such a strong grip at Bhaktivedanta College, the future doesn't look good. And considering that the sentimentalist sahajiya Sacinandana Swami has a strong influence there we can only imagine what this strange brew will produce.

[PADA: Right, concocted "voted in" women gurus, sahajiya culture, this is going to create a whole new wave of further problems for ISKCON, and it will take it even further away from Srila Prabhupada's teachings.]

*We would never allow a sannyasi,** vanaprastha, grhasta or brahmacari who didn't follow the dharma of their respective ashrama to give class. Why then should we allow an unchaste woman (Urmila dd) who rejects Stri-dharma to give classes in ISKCON, what to speak of being a teacher at Bhaktivedanta College or chairperson of the SAC!

**Maybe that is changing since Sacinandana Swami is practically, for all intents and purposes, married to his girlfriend Bhanunandini dd.

[PADA: Oh boy, this does not sound good, does Sacinandana Swami have a "female assistant" like some of these other GBC gurus? ys pd]

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[PADA: Previous story, Sacinandana swami connection to Mahanidhi's Radha Kunda Babaji program:

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/08/mahanidhi-scandal-expands-other-iskcon.html]

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http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/06/how-bhakta-das-william-benedict-ruined.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2014/02/bv-puri-maharaja-all-over-map.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2014/09/gaudiya-matha-and-iskcon-brief-history.html

Friday, November 21, 2014

Another GBC Land Dispute (Bangalore)

http://www.iskcontruth.com/2014/11/iskcon-gbc-bangalore-playing-communal.html

PADA: Apparently, Bangalore ISKCON's "GBC managed temple" -- (i.e. Jayapataka swami / Dayarama / Varada Krishna) -- was built illegally, they seem to have not got the proper land title ownership and government permits. Now, the Karnataka government wants that temple removed -- and the GBC managed temple is saying the government "wants to destroy Hindu temples."

The GBC folks started a big petition drive to "stop the destruction of Hindu temples," it seems, without telling people they did not get the legal permits in order in the first place. This is another scam? The temple president, Varada Krishna, is already being cited for contempt by the Karnataka courts, is this the same problem again, -- they are not doing things legally? Yep, we want to stop the destruction of Hindu temples, but what if their temple was not authorized in the first place? ys pd    

Thursday, November 20, 2014

Romapada Swami vs Dasarath das




[PADA: Romapada swami has been reputed to be taking (siphoning?) millions of dollars from various ISKCON spin - off charities and then "lending money" to ISKCON programs (with interest) so he can make even more money. 

There have been troubles in his Brooklyn temple which we reported over the years, such as reports of renting out part of the temple for a Haitian Disco, where alcohol (and allegedly meat sandwich's) were being sold. Never mind we were also told there were scantily clad "Haitian dancing girls" hanging out in front of the temple until wee early morning hours, allegedly some of them were prostitutes.

Then we heard that the Disco's noise from the loud music and shouting on the sidewalk was too much for the neighbors, and this program was shut down by the city. Yep, it seems the mundane "karmis" often have to rescue "the devotees" from various crack pot problems on a regular basis. 

Of course as soon as PADA gets help from the "karmi's" FBI, police and media then the "devotees" cry that we are "working with the demons." Well yeah, because that is how we kept alive all this time, they protected us from being assassinated, and still do for that matter. Anyway, Brooklyn then had their infamous Bingo hall, which filled up the place with little old ladies at Bingo tables, ok a much better crowd than the Disco, but this ended up in some kind of lawsuit and was closed.

Now that these "business scams" have not worked out so well, the Brooklyn temple is up for sale, which almost everyone agrees, is another huge money scam. It seems there is no accountability here, as Dasarath prabhu points out. Dasarath's whole Sedona program has been in a topsy turvy state with all these GBC's politics and machinations. The good news is that these Phoenix people all moved off to form their own independent program, which is what they should have done 20 years ago.

Another amazing thing is that over the years some GBC ilk said that PADA should be shut down, so they can have no one protesting all these deviations, including their Haitian Disco program. These people want to use ISKCON for a Haitian Disco, no wonder they are upset with PADA! 

They want that type of program expanded to other temples? Meanwhile the Romapada program took our friends to court saying they should not call themselves ISKCON, but the court wanted to know why Romapada's program is not using the name of ISKCON, and he has started another charity in another name? 

Its really is amazing to us that some people want to "stop PADA" so they can turn ISKCON's temples into Haitian discos -- with no one protesting their process of deteriorating the Krishna religion. And as soon as someone starts a nice program of kirtana and pooja, like we have in Bangalore, then they want that shut down too. Haitian Discos ki jaya! Apparently?

Then these same people claim to wonder why the Krishna religion is in the tank?

Because they put it there. 

Another amazing thing is that some folks still say "no one listens to PADA." Really? Well we were writing about Romapada's shennanigans 10-15 years ago, and now others are following our footsteps, albeit a day late and a dollar short. The unfortunate problem now is, way too many people DO believe us and agree with PADA. We wish none of these things were true, but more often than not, they are true. And we reported all these kinds of things in ancient times as far as ISKCON goes, its just that others are finally getting up to speed on our old stories. Sorry, the stories we wrote many years ago are constantly being confirmed, that's all. We said Romapada is a rotten apple last century, and now others are agreeing, its that simple. ys pd]    

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Paramananda das writes:

PAMHO AGTSP

Reading Romapada Swami lectures in Mayapura some things comes to mind:

http://www.dandavats.com/?p=10300

We have to follow Srila Prabhupadas instructions, that is a fact, what pleased Srila Prabhupada? Romapada Swami mentions some past deviations. My question is still to Romapada Swami, when will you and Ramabhadra close down the bingo hall at ISKCON Brooklyn, and stop all the serving of meat at ISKCON temples?

Srila Prabhupadas temple!

So many things said is simply lip service as long as this eysore remains. Romapada Swami ask yourself if a Bingo hall at ISKCON Brooklyn pleases Srila Prabhupada ... this should be the top priority of the GBC and the ILS? Where is the GBC, ISKCON resolve, and so called senior devotees when they are needed for such an important thing? This is my question,

I was not in the class, my hand is raised: When will the GBC close the Bingo hall? It violates GBC rules of 1996 and that thing breaks the 4 regulative principles, these are not allowed on any ISKCON property, that is 2 rgs broken right there -- meat eating and gambling... Again, its the GBC program of "all about money with no moral scruples"?

If Ramabhadra and Romapada Swami can not close this Bingo hall, I humbly request the GBC to remove them from all managerial positions, yes I am also a brahmin and vaisnava, but they can not take any good advise? However this is the GBC law and they are braking it.....how can they be managers in ISKCON? Srila Prabhuapda was concerned the GBC maintain standards ....why are they not?

your servant
Paramananda das

[PADA: Thanks prabhu, No! The GBC had nothing to do with closing the Bingo Hall? This was apparently closed because they did not pay their rent to Romapada, so he sued them to collect the rent. The cheaters and the cheated. Yes PADA was the first person to protest the Haitian Disco, Bingo Hall etc. which is why the GBC and their henchmen wanted us stopped. ys pd]


India's "Kissing Movement"


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[PADA: This always amazes us, in India literally thousands of people will gather in a flash and start a huge riot over something like "kissing in public." Meanwhile -- there does not seem to be very significant protests over MUCH more significant issues such as: Bogus gurus, swamis, yogis and avatars operating left, right and center; Mass abortion of female babies; Bollywood-ization; Western-ization; Industrial-ization; Pollution of the holy places and rivers; Cows and pigs being rounded up for slaughter; General problem with rapes (at least some protests of this have occurred), Mis-treatment of the Dalits "untouchables"; Mass sterilization of (poor) females  -- and so on and so forth.

Its almost as if -- the more trivial problems are being artificially blown up to be the biggest problems, so people will not have to think about the major issues, its like a smokescreen effect. This phenomena has also happened in ISKCON to some extent: If anyone wants to protest in ISKCON, they are only allowed to protest trivial side issues such as "should the GBC vote in women as gurus" -- and thus, they never really deal with the major problematic issues for example, why is the GBC guru program saying that acharyas are often debauchees?

We were also shocked when we brought out "the poison tapes" issue how some "karmi" women at Venice beach asked me about the issue and they were very concerned "oh this man said he is being poisoned, that is terrible." They showed alarm and concern on the faces, they immediately grasped the gravity of the situation. Meanwhile, only few devotees at the time even cared, and not that many cared ever since, there is a lot of concern for trivia -- and not the significance.

Yep, even if no one kisses in public in India ever again, all their other problems will continue, and even if we vote in a bunch of women as gurus in ISKCON, the same problems will continue. Its not the main problem issues that are being discussed. Of course even in the USA the biggest problem right now is, "who is winning on American Idol," There is a huge focus on trivia and not the important issues. That is how maya keeps us side tracked, we get overwhelmed on side issues and forget the real issues. ys pd            

Wednesday, November 19, 2014

6 Dead, 270 Arrested Ram Pal Ashram



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INDIA's Fallen God-Man and USA Mega-church's:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/21/is-india-s-fallen-god-man-so-different-than-a-megachurch-pastor.html

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30110369



Right, ISKCON has bogus GBC appointed gurus, but, its not alone, there are other self-styled gurus! Reminds some folks of the Jayatirtha and Kirtanananda programs. ys pd

Reasons ISKCON Collapsed?

http://iskcon.us/hridayananda-das-goswami/8-reasons-hare-krishna-movement-america-collapsed/

[PADA: Hrdayananda thinks "cultural changes" caused the collapse of ISKCON. Really? So the bogus GBC gurus did not cause the collapse? Wow! The GBC's guru's chasing thousands of devotees out of ISKCON is what caused the first wave of collapse, mainly.

Then, the GBC's gurus orchestrated mistreatment of the gurukula children caused the second wave of collapse of ISKCON. The GBC's then making a Hindu business out of ISKCON instead of back tracking and starting to correct itself is causing the third wave of collapse. The GBC's spending $20m on suing us is causing further financial ruin of the society.

Its interesting how the GBC gurus always rationalize how they are almost the victims, and everyone else is doing things wrong, and is causing ISKCON's troubles. Nope, they are to blame. And Srila Prabhupada says -- as the GBC's post is very high, the responsibility is also very high, and misuse of that post can lead them to take birth as a sudra in future. We think they will be fortunate to take the post of a sudra after all the mayhem they caused. ys pd

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2014/03/krishna-west-is-pest-krishna-kirti-das.html

Sunday, November 16, 2014

Plea For Vrndavana's Help

NGO's write to remind India's president that Vrndavana has been neglected for many years ...

Vrindavan, 2014.11.15 (Brij Khandelwal): When President Pranab Mukherjee visits the town on Sunday to lay the foundation stone of ISKCON’s temple project, the ugly scars of the neglected holy town and years of administrative mismanagement will remain obscured from his view by the glittering facade created by development agencies’ fortnight worth of toil. Something that has irked social activists in the city.

However, a number of activists belonging to various local NGOs have taken up the cudgels against the issue by writing a letter to the President apprising him of the ground realities, with a hope that his visit would help change the profile of this reeling town that draws millions of pilgrims from across the world.

Their letter has underscored how several development works have stunted recently after the state government decided two months back to amalgam Vrindavan’s local body with Mathura’s to form a unified municipal corporation. A string of protests backed by activists and godmen against the government’s decision has resulted in a stagnation of these projects.

Madhumangal Shukla, an RTI activist fighting for the cleanliness of river Yamuna, underlined the botched waste disposal system in the town. “Garbage and waste disposal is one of the chief problems suffered by this town as there is no landfill site available. Besides, the town lacks resources to sustain the cleanliness drive launched by Prime Minister Narendra Modi,” he said.

The city does not have a sewer system either. “Most homes either have the old system of latrines or depend on septic tanks. In the morning, you can see drains overflowing with human excreta. Even more alarming is the fact that some multi-storeyed complexes discharge toilet waste directly into the earth through borings. The fear is that the underground reserves could be poisoned with toxic substances if this practice is not stopped,” Goswami said.

Despite repeated demands, Vrindavan does not have a proper cremation ground along the river bank. The main congregation ground, which was reserved for the Kumbh Mela every 12 years, is gradually getting concretized. The receding of the site has got the religious community in the town worried about Mela’s future. “No-one knows where the next Kumbh will be held. The traditional site is already getting consumed by modern buildings,” said a perturbed sadhu Charan Das.

Vrindavan’s demand for a peacock sanctuary has not received the attention it deserves, locals lament. The peacocks are dying for want of care. “Everyone knows Sri Krishna loved peacocks and he used their feathers in his head gear. But the monkeys are murdering them. Their natural habitat has disappeared,” complained Kunj Bihari Sharma.

Residents also complained about the lack of a well-formulated ‘cow economics’ in the city, and the disappearances of scared groves in the city.

Sitar maestro Trigunateet Jaimini felt that the “time had come” for Doordarshan to start a Braj Bhasha channel to promote the local culture of the region. “We have to protect Haveli Sangeet, Samaj gyan parampara, the Pakhawaj and folk arts like Sanjhi and Tesu,” he said.

India's President's Vrndavana Speech



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-must-reconnect-to-its-spiritual-past-Pranab-Mukherjee/articleshow/45166503.cms

Speech by the President of India, Shri Pranab Mukherjee at the Vrindavan Chandrodaya Mandir

I am delighted to be amongst you in Vrindavan today. I congratulate ISKCON for conceiving a unique project of this kind. I understand that the Vrindavan Chandrodaya Mandir, the foundation stone for which was laid on 16thof March this year, shall be an architectural marvel seeking to recreate the glory and the times of Lord Shri Krishna. It shall enable thousands of pilgrims who congregate at Vrindavan every year the opportunity of experiencing new levels of spiritual consciousness.

I also take this opportunity to convey my deep appreciation and respect for His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, the founder Acharya of ISKCON, who spread the message of Krishna consciousness all over the world. A celebrated spiritualist and author, his influence continues to resonate in the hearts of Krishna devotees all over the world even today.

It was Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, who, alongwith his disciples, established temples in Vrindavan and led the cultural renaissance in the fifteenth century. He was instrumental in making Vrindavan the seat of bhakti and in disseminating its principles, as enunciated in our ancient texts, throughout India. I am happy that the proposed temple seeks to continue and build on this glorious tradition.

Shri Madhu Pandit Dasa, who has conceived this temple project, has aptly stated that this temple will not be just a mere edifice of concrete and steel, but a living and dynamic institution, and a center of learning and education. The Vrindavan Chandrodaya Mandir will strive to disseminate the philosophical message of the Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam in an easy to understand and rational manner –that message is particularly relevant for us as a society today. While we as a nation move up the developmental ladder, it is essential that our spiritual core, which forms the bedrock of our civilization, remains undiluted and strong as ever.

Ladies and Gentlemen, India is one of the oldest and culturally rich civilizations in the world. As we now make the transformative change from being a developing to a developed economy, there will be immense pressures on our socio-economic and moral fabric. It is, therefore, imperative that we reconnect to our spiritual dimensions. There can be no better way of doing this than spreading the Bhagvad Gita’s message of universal love and humanity. I congratulate ISKCON for their efforts in highlighting and propagating the timeless teachings of Lord Krishna across the world. 6. I am particularly happy to learn about the various initiatives that are being contemplated for the upliftment of society under the aegis of this Project, including welfare programmes for the widows of Vrindavan and the restoration, upgradation and rejuvenation of the important sites of Braj. The Akshaya Patra program through which ISKCON is providing mid-day meals to nearly 1.4 lakh children in 2160 schools in Mathura District for the last decade is a noble initiative indeed.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Srimad Bhagavatam describes the four pillars of spirituality – truthfulness, compassion, austerity and purity. Civilized societies exist and operate within the framework of these values. Lord Krishna, through His timeless teachings in the Bhagavad Gita, has shaped the intellectual, cultural and spiritual mindscape of India for several millennia. It is, thus, only appropriate that Vrindavan strives to become a world renowned center for spiritual enlightenment, from where the message of divinity and peace resonates across all humanity.

I am glad to know that Government of India and the Government of Uttar Pradesh have taken various initiatives towards making Vrindavan a hub of religious tourism. The present project adds a new dimension to these initiatives and shall hopefully generate positive spin- offs both for local society and the economy. I am confident that ISKCON will continue to partner both the Central and the State Governments in their efforts aimed at social change and reformation.

I once again wish the Project and the entire ISKCON team all success in their endeavors.

Thank you.

Saturday, November 15, 2014

Nadiya / Narayana / George Harrison (music videos)

1) Nadiya Godrume / w Srila Prabhupada visuals. 



2) Narayana Vasudevaya (Karnamrita dasi)




3) George Harrison "THIS IS LOVE"



Friday, November 14, 2014

ISKCON Mumbhai Criminal Contempt charge

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/441204/contempt-notice-iskcon-mumbai.html


[PADA: Sorry, I do not know the names of the Bombay ISKCON leaders, if anyone knows please sent us a list. 

This is good. Maybe these little fish will "rat out" and expose the big fish who are behind all this, ok like some of the GBC leaders?]



http://www.iskcontruth.com/2014/11/mystery-of-packet-received-by-high.html

ISKCON Mumbhai's Balaji Shubhash, charged with blackmail

Mystery of the packet received by High court Judges revealed, Issues notice against ISKCON Mumbai

The Honorable High Court of Karnataka today issued notice on criminal contempt of court against ISKCON Mumbai, Doyarama Dasa, Bhima Dasa (Secretary ISKCON Mumbai), Varada Krishna Dasa and Balaji Subhash. The divisional bench consisting of Honorable Justice N Kumar and Hon. Justice Manohar issued the notice while hearing contempt of court proceedings initiated against ISKCON Mumbai and others by Secretary of ISKCON Bangalore.

It may be recalled that on April 17th 2009 City civil court had given a permanent injunction against ISKCON Mumbai stating that it should not interfere in ISKCON Bangalore’s affairs. ISKCON Mumbai had gone on appeal to the Honorable High court against this verdict of the Trial court. The appeal was being heard by a divisional bench headed by Hon. Justice K L Manjunath. On 10th July 2009 a mystery packet was received by Hon. Justice KL Manjunath and Hon. Justice C R Kumaraswamy.

The mystery packet contained photographs of Hon. Justice KL Manjunath receiving a photo frame while visiting ISKCON temple in Rajajinagar, Bangalore. The packet also contained a letter requesting Hon. Justice KL Manjunath to not hear the appeal as the photographs indicate that he is associated with ISKCON Bangalore. Subsequently Hon. Justice KL Manjunath recused from the appeal and it was heard before another bench. 

While so recusing suo moto contempt of court was initiated against President, Secretary of ISKCON Bangalore and four lawyers. Later on the Honorable High Court acquitted the President and two lawyers from the contempt proceedings.One, Mr. Balaji Subash in April 2011 had tried to extort money from ISKCON Bangalore and a complaint was filed against him by ISKCON Bangalore. He was later arrested by the police and jailed for 45 days. Subsequently Central Investigation Department (CID) Karnataka has taken up the investigation of this case and has filed a charge sheet against Balaji Subash under sections 384, 417, 465, 468,471 r/w 34 section of the IPC and section 66(A)of IT Act 2000

Investigations further revealed that Varada Krishna Das of ISKCON Mumbai abetted to the crime committed by Balaji Subash by instigating him into criminal acts. The CID has also filed charge sheet against Varada Krishna Dasa under sections 384, 417,465,468,471, 120(B) of IPC and section 66(a) of IT Act 2000

vide crime no 78 of 2011. During the course of investigation it was revealed that Varada Krishna dasa was actively in touch with Balaji Subhash and that he had offered him huge amounts of money if he succeeded in maligning ISKCON Bangalore. Both Balaji Subhash and Varada Krishna Dasa are now on bail and have been given specific instructions by courts to co-operate with the investigations. The matter is pending before 1st ACMM court Bangalore.

On 11th April 2011 Balaji Subhash had written an email admitting that he stole the pictures of Hon. Justice Manjunath visiting and receiving photo frame from ISKCON Bangalore temple. He also admitted that he stole the pictures under instructions from ISKCON Mumbai. 

He also admits that he handed over the pictures to ISKCON Mumbai. The email further reveals that the entire conspiracy was arranged by combined plan of Doyaram Dasa, Bhima Dasa (Secretary ) and Varada Krishna of ISKCON Mumbai. ISKCON Mumbai through various unscrupulous means has been making all efforts to malign ISKCON Bangalore. Evidence now strongly points out that the mystery packet containing photographs of the Judge were indeed handy work of ISKCON Mumbai and its leaders in association with Balaji Subhash.

Citing these emails and charge sheet filed by CID secretary of ISKCON Bangalore had filed a petition to initiate criminal contempt of court against ISKCON Mumbai, Balaji Subhash and others. Advocate General of Karnataka in his order has also given permission to initiate contempt proceedings against Balaji Subhash, Dayarama Dasa and Varada Krishna Dasa.

On Wednesday 12th November 2014, the matter came up for hearing before the Honorable High Court and it has issued notice to ISKCON Mumbai, Dayarama Dasa, Varada Krishna Dasa, Bhima Dasa and Balaji Subhash.





King Of Lawsuits   

[PADA: Apparently, GBC has spent $20,000,000 (20 million dollars) on this lawsuit. Some have said, its the GBC's number one expenditure since 1997 when this lawsuit started. 

The GBC itself agreed in 1998 that Jayapataka is not even chanting his rounds, what to speak of being qualified to be a guru : "1998 GBC resolution: GBC encourages Jayapataka Swami to chant on his beads. We also note he (Jayapataka Swami) has made positive efforts to improve the visible chanting of his japa and attendance at the morning program and encourage him to continue with this." Wow! Guy does not even chant, and he is the messiah of the jagat?]



Dayarama das

Varada Krishna das

Thursday, November 13, 2014

A Musical Interlude

A musical interlude --




[PADA: Holi in Brasil. 100,000 people present!

ALSO! A DJ musician asked me for permission to use PADA's songs for his DJ set. Of course -- we gave him permission. A lady is also using our songs for her aerobic dance classes and we gave her permission too. Some of our songs are here: http://youtube.com/pada1008  jayate! (here is a sample)]   



Madhava dasa Kirtana 

Gaura Govinda's "guru order" (update)



Dear PADA: Does this sound like Srila Prabhupada words, or Gaur Govinda's dream?

The following is a transcript from a darshan with Srila Gour Govinda Swami in Bhubanesvara, April 1989. I don't know if you will take it as documentary evidence, but it works for me, and is consummate with whatever else I accept about Srila Gour Govinda Swami. In other words, I believe him ... Srila Prabhupada made statements that his disciples should become gurus, but he as well made statements making it plain that no one can BE Guru without receiving the order from the predecessor Acarya / one's own qualified and authorized Guru.

Qualification and authorization cannot be artfully side-stepped on the pretext of saving humanity. It is Krsna who delivers the jivas through the agency of His own men, His pure via mediums; and it is Krsna who knows and who says who they are.

"Devotee: Do you have one letter Prabhupada wrote to you saying he wanted you to initiate disciples? Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, he told me here, there in that room. Prabhupada was staying there in 1977. At that time it was a jungle, nothing was here, a jungle and Prabhupada came here and stayed here for 17 days in that room. In that room he told me. Every word of Prabhupada was being taped you see, always taping. 

Whatever Prabhupada said, his secretary of devotees, Satsvarupa Maharaj, first Ramesvara came, then he left, then Satsvarup Maharaj came; he was secretary- in that room, next to it my room. At that time I was staying there with Satsvarupa, his servant, Govinda Misra Pandit, typing, all books, he had a trunk. He called me. He had decided to open center here.

At that time Gargamuni Swami and Gurukripa, they told Prabhupada, “Why shall we open center, build temple here? This is a jungle. No one will come. Why will you spend money here? Better open in Puri." Prabhupada said, "No, I want here" and threw them all out and called me, whispered in my ear, "Gour Govind, they are objecting. But I want, this will be best center in ISKCON. You stay here. They'll come and go. You should accept disciples. You should have your own men otherwise how can you manage?"

[PADA: OK this does not make any sense.

Why would Srila Prabhupada appoint one person, ok GGM, to be his guru successor, and not notify the entire society he had done so? Naturally no one else in the society would accept this alleged "appointment" of this one person -- without some public statements or documents to confirm this was being ordered. Suppose one lone brother shows up at the funeral and he says to all the other brothers, "Our father appointed me as the sole heir to his legacy -- in a secret talk." 

Q: How many other brothers would believe that? 

A: OK, probably none.

Why would the father appoint one lone heir in secret, and not notify the other children of this appointing process, knowing this would cause schism and chaos? The whole idea that the father "secretly whispered" the order of his succession to only one person makes it look like the father was not clear about how his orders should be conducted. Of course the whole "appointment" of eleven GBC gurus was ALSO never verified, that is because -- there was no guru appointment of one or eleven gurus.

Sorry! We have to rely on the statements and documents we do have, such as -- the will, the July 9th letter, and so forth. Anyone can walk into a church and say he is the "secretly appointed" heir to Jesus, however in the real world, this person never inherits the post of heir and successor because -- it cannot be proven.

The other problem is, why would Srila Prabhupada tell one person to exclusively initiate "his own people," making an immediate crisis of a separated schism from the rest of ISKCON? Gaura Govinda maharaja says he was to have "his own people," and that means the rest of ISKCON and the other GBC would have "their own people" and they would each be separated from the integrated system of a unified ISKCON that Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered. 

That means there will right away be a schism crisis, this person has "his own men," that person has "his own men," and there will no longer be a unified society. If a person joins a Christian church, he does not become the exclusive member or property of that particular church, he is a member of the entire group of churches nationwide or even worldwide. 

Sorry, we do not get to have our own men, our own property, our own anything, at least in the integrated society that ISKCON is supposed to be. The same thing happens in a mundane corporation. The manager of Walmart San Francisco might be offered a job as a Walmart manager in Los Angeles, and he will move there and continue his services there, because even they know, no one is the property of a particular location. That means GGM still has the "zonal guru" disease, "I am going to have my OWN people in my OWN zone or area.

No! The workers of ISKCON need to able to move anywhere within the institution freely, and that is how ISKCON was operating while Srila Prabhupada was here: Anyone could go to any temple anywhere in the world, and that person was not the property of a particular zone and so on. So this was the first problem we had after 1977, the GBC said that the local people in "their zone" were "their people" and there was a sort of freeze on travel and interaction because folks from one zone were discouraged to travel and move to another. Gaura Govinda maharaja has had the same GBC guru disease, this is my zone, my project, my people, etc.]   

GGM: And that I kept in my heart. So this came in GBC meeting. At that time they were selecting gurus. I said this thing, that Prabhupada had told me. They said, "What is the proof? What proof do you want? It is kept in my heart."

[PADA: The proof is in your heart? Right, Gaura Govinda Maharaja announces that he has been appointed as the guru of ISKCON, but he waited to make this announcement until just after Srila Prabhupada had departed. Thus he has no proof that he was ever appointed as a guru, therefore there is no way to confirm his appointment since Srila Prabhupada was not physically here to verify it. 

This is the same problem with the GBC gurus. They announced that eleven of them had been appointed as gurus just AFTER Srila Prabhupada departed, so there is no way to verify this appointment. If they had been appointed when Srila Prabhupada was here, why did no one else know about this appointment? After the father departs, a son (or eleven sons) declare they are the exclusive heirs, when this appointment was never known while the father was physically present? Even in the world of the so-called mundaners, no one can declare they are the heir with no verification.]

I shared that letter that Prabhupada had written, "that this should be done under your leadership" - spiritual leader, guru, they were not letting me.

[PADA: Where is this letter where it says GGM will be a guru? And why have we never seen it?]

I had to fight. Many Oriyan people were complaining that I was not initiating, so they were disappointed, and some were leaving. Some went to Gaudiya Math. Prabhupada is sending his men to me but they are being disappointed.

[PADA: OK, but if one is truly the self-effulgent acharya, one do not need the GBC's rubber stamp of authority? Srila Prabhupada did not get or need to approval or rubber stamp of his God brothers to be a guru. If one is a factual guru, one does not need to beg others for a rubber stamp in that capacity. If one is the acharya, then why fight with the GBC, just go ahead and be the acharya and make your own mission without fighting. 

Srila Prabhupada is sending his men to me and they are being disappointed, well yes, because you are wrapped up in pleasing the GBC and helping their guru rubber stamping business, and you are not promoting Srila Prabhupada as the acharya. Instead GGM is always discussing the great issue of the GBC and his need to "cooperate" with them. If the GBC are bogus, and you are the next acharya, then create your own program and move on as all previous acharyas did.]

[...] Devotee: I feel very inspired to get the mercy. Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, Prabhupada's mercy, Guru Maharaja’s mercy. Mahaprabhu is very merciful. You are very eager, yes, you must get his mercy. He is sending his men to me. You are Prabhupada's men. Prabhupada said, “My Guru Maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati has sent his men to me.” Similarly my Guru Maharaja is sending you to me to help me in this project. One who needs help, my business is to give him help, to help him, yes. My Guru Maharaja has said that thing to me so I must do my duty. One who is really a needy person, he needs help, so I must render help the best I can."

[PADA: The real problem here is that both GGM and the eleven GBC gurus claimed to have been appointed as gurus, when neither party has shown any proof. Nor did either party disclose this alleged guru appointment when Srila Prahupada was present, so it could not be verified. 

Instead of challenging the GBC's bogus guru appointment, Gaura Govinda maharaja went begging to get a guru rubber stamp from them. A vaishnava should be independent, whether us or GGM or anyone else. Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura says its better to live with the mundaners than to stay with the charlatan yogis, and he is right.

Gaura Govinda Maharaja also said Sabda Brahman does not descend from tapes and books, you need to hear from the lips of a living person. Oddly, his followers have made a tape ministry of his words, after he said tapes are of no use? Anyway, here are some other relevant links:

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2014/06/problems-with-gaura-govinda-maharaja.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/08/wasnt-gaura-govinda-maharaja-cleaning.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/02/hypocrisy-of-ggm-and-narayan-maharaja.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2012/04/gaura-govinda-maharaja-appointment-in.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2012/03/gaura-govinda-maharaja-folks-reply.html