Friday, January 19, 2018

Ramanuja Pastime (from acharya's series)

Yep, no rules are needed for GBC acharyas




[PADA: Oh boo hoo, very upset that the GBC made rules and attempts to monitor their gurus. Dr. Stilson Judah called this "antinomianism," lawless in the name of religion. We do not need to regulate the GBC's acharyas, and the resulting chaos, disunity, and no small amount of criminal programs -- are self evident. BB Govinda Swami should be saying, our lawless guru process has ruined the society, and we need to go back to a GBC which actually oversees and manages things. But nope! ys pd]

Thursday, January 18, 2018

The Glorious Vedic method of preparing for Death



The Glorious Vedic method of preparing for Death

Remembering my old friend Venugopala dasa ACBSP who is now close to leaving his material bodily vessel. Just thinking of all the years of preaching all over Australia and even in India in 1982 with Venugopal prabhu, great times even though at times difficult.

I have known Venu since 1974 when he first joined at 18 years of age. In the 70s, 80s and 90s when we did Padyatra together, I had a nickname for Venugopal calling him Venu GHEE pal because of his love of using plenty of ghee in his wonderful cooking. My two favorite cooks back then was Venu and Brian Lloyd Bhutanath prabhu both amazing.

Anyway in a recent personal dream I met up with Venu and we both realized that the greatest quality of a ''genuine devotee'' is having the ability to forgive and never make the serious mistake of turning a sincere devotee away. Everyone, even the most fallen, must be somehow be engaged in the service of the Lord.

After all Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityananda have come to save the most fallen souls in this rare Kali-yuga the Brothers appear in. All those who may have feel offended by some past event have undoubtedly found forgiveness old friend.
Have a safe Journey dear friend. Undoubtedly Prabhupada will come and lift you up and guide you back home, back to Godhead. However, be careful, do not even look at the illusionary glare coming from the heavenly planets. GD

Rathayatra Bangalore January 20, 2018


Monday, January 15, 2018

Creepy Sex Cult Scandal Greets Pope Francis

The Next Messiah is Gadi das -- of Mulberry Tennessee?




https://iskconleaders.com/gadi-prabhu/

http://www.murarisevaka.com/

http://www.murarisevaka.com/spiritual-masters/

http://www.murarisevaka.com/a-stern-warning/


Spiritual Masters

Murari Sevaka Asrama (Mulberry Tennesee) would not exist without the Grace of our entire Guru-parampara, The divine vision of Bhaktivinoda Thakura, our Paramagurudeva His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, His Holiness Aindra Prabhu, and our Gurudeva, Om Visnupada Astottara-sata Sri Srimad Gadi dasa Prabhu, who have given their whole heart and soul to fulfilling the innermost hearts desire of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabu. This page is dedicated to Their glories.


[PADA: Who knew? According to their own web site Gadi Dasa is another GBC certified guru, the Om Vishnupada Messiah of the Jagat? He is another GBC authorized diksha guru who can absorb sins like Jesus? And he does not want us to criticize Narayan Maharaja: the biggest cheer leading defender of Tamal and the GBC's molester messiah's guru project; which is credited with: banning, beating, molesting and assassinating folks? And maybe poisoning? 

Wasn't Gadi Dasa a big supporter of making Jayapataka the next acharya? And isn't this killing a number of these people like JPS, or at least making them extremely sick, because they are not qualified to absorb sins? 

  

Absorbing sins like Jesus -- how is that working out folks?

Bhakti Caru swami: is he another person encouraging neophytes to absorb sins, and suffer terrible results?

Did we forget to mention that Srila Prabhupada does not agree with Narayan Maharaja's idea that we never fell from Krishna's leela? And that the GBC wrote position papers saying no one should associate with the NM clan for all these reasons and more, but Gadi is openly advertising this fellow on his "ISKCON" authorized web site? But if some "Prabhupada folks" try to use the name ISKCON to advertise Srila Prabhupada, the GBC sues these folks in the Supreme Court of Delhi. The ISKCON name can only be used to advertise false gurus, and not the real guru? 

And NM is simply another person who encouages neophytes to take sins, which causes them to get sick, fall down and die prematurely? Did we forget to mention the GBC buried the body of a known sexual predator in the holy dham, and they are encouraging people to worship that dead lusty dog's carcass as a type of messiah from heaven? And there is a "stern warning" on Gadi's site, we cannot talk to Gadi about any of this? He will block all converstations related to these topics and keep us away from his "ISKCON" project?

In our current conversation with a media person, we are discussing that it seems to be illegal fraud to use the name of ISKCON for "corrupting the morals of minors," by telling little children that God's successors are often illicit sex, drug addicts, and sexual predator debauchees -- who might also be criminals who orchestrate murders? Why would we want little children to believe that the chain of messiahs from God in heaven often contains sexual predators and criminals? 

Anyway! If Gadi and / or his associates have an explanation for all this, send it to angel108b@yahoo.com. Thanks! ys pd]



What is going on inside the head of these messiahs from heaven?


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And as for promoting NM's false idea that we were never with Krishna:

We fell from Krishna's association --


"Dr. Mize: The question that bothers me in part is, then, why would the soul... Because I understand your conception that the soul is part of the spiritual sky originally, or part of God, and it somehow falls out of this blissful condition due to pride, much like the Christian thesis that the devil fell out of heaven due to pride. And it seems puzzling why the soul would be so silly, so foolish, so insane, as to do such a thing.

Prabhupāda: That is his independence.

Dr. Mize: Independence.

Prabhupāda: Instead of using independence properly, when he misuses independence he falls.

Dr. Mize: I'm sorry, he what?

Prabhupāda: He falls down.

Dr. Mize: He falls.

Prabhupāda: He falls down on account of his independence. Just like you have got independence. You are sitting here. You can go immediately. You may not like to hear me.

Dr. Mize: I wouldn't what?

Prabhupāda: You may not like to hear me.

Dr. Mize: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That independence you have got. I have got also. I may not talk with you. So that independence is always there. Similarly, as part and parcel of God, the..., it is the duty of the soul to be always engaged in the service of the Lord.

Dr. Mize: Always engaged in...?

Prabhupāda: In the service of the Lord.

Dr. Mize: Service of the Lord.

Prabhupāda: Just like this finger is part and parcel of my body. Whatever I am ordering, it is immediately carrying out. I say, "Make it like this," he will..., it will do. So... But this is dead matter. It is acting mechanically. The brain directs immediately the finger and it acts, like machine. This whole body is just like a machine, but soul is not machine, mechanical part. It is spiritual part. So therefore, as I am directing the finger, as being machine, it is working, but if somebody else, a friend or servant, I may direct him to do something, he may not do it. So when the soul misuses the independence, then he falls down. That is material life. Material life means misusing the independence of soul. Just like a son. A son's duty is to obey the father. But he may not obey. That is his madness. So when the soul, misusing the independence, becomes mad, he is sent in this material world.

Dr. Mize: It is puzzling to me that one would be so foolish.

Prabhupāda: Because by independence you can become foolish. Otherwise, there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do whatever you like. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, that yathecchasi tathā kuru [Bg. 18.63]. [aside:] Find out this verse in the Eighteenth Chapter. That independence is there. After instructing the whole Bhagavad-gītā to Arjuna, Kṛṣṇa gave him the independence, "Now whatever you like, you can do." Kṛṣṇa never forced him to accept the teachings of Bhagavad-gītā. He gave him the independence, "Now whatever you like, you can do." And he agreed = "Yes. Now my illusion is over, I shall act as You say." The same independence. Yes.



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Saturday, January 13, 2018

Killing For Krishna (4 sale on Amazon)

Narayana Maharaja Folks vs PADA (update)



PADA: How did you expect us to "take the GBC gurus out", when people like Naryana Maharaja are pushing them into the seats of guru, enabling their program? Our associates were assassinated for complaining about NM / GBC gurus ...

GJ: Listen prabhu don't really have time to argue because you will go on and on like a groundhog day.

PP: You were not allowed to see Narayana Maharaja after being invited to his ashram? It would have been Brajanath who left you sitting if that even happened, but Brajanath wouldn't allow so many people in. He stopped even the female disciples even from getting in. All Brajanath's doing. All classic misquoting of Puranjana: Why did NM say they are gurus if they are not pure? Worse, he said they are monkeys, and 11 of these monkeys are gurus?" 

PADA's style is to take loose facts and switch them around. It was Srila Prabhupada himself who called all of his disciples monkeys, as they were. 

[PADA: And these monkey are NM's rasika classes gurus?]

PP: He said it in Bengali to SNM at his death bed so to speak, and asked NM to look after them since obviously they are in the very beginning stages and will have no higher authority to guide them once he leaves and its become quite apparent what these neophyte disciples will do without a strong hand over them. 

PADA: No, this had nothing to do with Brajnath. Jadurani and NM personally met me on Venice beach and they both wanted me to come and speak with maharaja. Jadurani was shuttling back and forth all day long trying to get the meeting going. And at the end she was in tears when she had to report he had left the premises. I had introduced the poison investigation at that time and NM was one of my worst critics. I had hoped he was going to ask me about the issue since he was publicly attacking me for brining it forward. There were also many other issues that needed to be resolved, he basically shunned me the whole day.

Agreed, Srila Prabhupada said they are all monkeys, so why did NM say 11 of them are gurus, and he became a huge defender of Tamal, and NM was in Dallas and many places with Tamal, and he was supporting Tamal? And he said Tamal is a guru and we should not challenge that? What kind of help is it to say that 11 monkeys are going to be the gurus of the society?


PP: NM didn't want to emphasise the poison issue as its not correct that such a personality can be poisoned, thats not to say he didn't believe it did not happen and I cant speak for him, but hes free to meet with whomever he wants or not meet. 

[PADA: OK but why invite someone over to meet, if you have no intention of meeting? What kind of etiquette is that? Even the karmis know if you invite someone over you have to meet them, its common courtesy. Evidently NM is unaware of Vaishnava etiquette, or even ordinary mundane etiquette.] 

PP: Do you think any of my God brothers would ever meet with me in their big positions and that's on the same level just as a pathetic example. Point is you cant force even other people to behave how you want them too. You should team up with that other complainer about SNM Gaura Das.

[PADA: OK so your Narayan Maharaja leaders and God brothers are shunning you, that means they are also in a bubble and are not communicating with the citizens of the society they rule.] 

PP: NM never said they were Gurus. Show me that quote.

[PADA: I am a disciple of the person who complained of being poisoned. Its none of NM's business to interfere with me investigating this matter, and to demonize me over this could have got me killed. He said that Tamal is the "dear Tamal tree of Radha" and so many things, this is all on their own NM sites. NM was favorably associated with the GBC guru clique all along from 1978 until at least 1993 (see photo above), and he was a well known major cheer leader of their process and he was a major critic of those of us who challenged their process. And NM supported Satsvarupa's "Guru Reform" and he helped write the "Guru Reform Notebook." And ever since then their followers like Rocana / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Hanuman Croatia think gurus are people who need censure, correcting, suspending, voting in / voting out, and so many other mundane regulations under the guidance of their contrived guru monitoring committee.]

PP: He didn't interfere with you .. he talked about the issue sometimes in classes in Mathura, why? To correct this idea that a pure devotee can be poisoned by the disciples. Do you get what I mean? This is the crux of much arguments as its a fine point. So I ask you can a pure devotee be forced from his body by his demonic disciples? or do they choose to leave at that point?

[PADA: Narayan Maharaja was my worst critic and interfering person at the time? He was publicly saying that this is nonsense ... which could have got me killed. This has nothing to do with me or my statements, I had the tape of what Srila Prabhupada had said and he was not even interested in hearing it. To say that Jesus was not crucified due to malfeasance among his disciples is ignorance, plain and simple. NM was not even interested in hearing the evidence or listening to what Srila Prabhupada had said. He was defending the GBC's gurus and the poisoner party, as he had all along.]

PP: Well none of SNM were interested in killing you ... you got your own bat sh*t crazy American God brothers to point that finger at.

PADA: So now you are saying the gurus that NM supported are monkeys, bat sh*t fools, and crazy people? So why is NM aiding in annointing his bat sh*t crazy friends as the guru successors to Krishna? And why is he giving rasika classes to the bat sh*t crazy folks? 

And if these people will kill others, why is he enabling, supporting, promoting and assisting the people from this group? He knows they are orchestrating killing vaishnavas, and he props them up and thinks they are his "dear Tamal tree" rasika students? You simply confirmed what I said, he was promoting dangerous people as his idea of leaders and gurus, and its foolish to say he did not know these people were being worshiped as gurus, this was well known to everyone and still is well known. 

Worse, the GBC folks were using NM's counter-poison arguments against me, they were citing him, that I am a rascal, he was supporting them clearly. So he was purposefully pouring gas on me hoping the GBC would finish off the job -- apparently? Anyway he did not even want to hear the tape, he did not want to hear our side of the issue ... and why are you saying NM supporting the bat sh*t crazy people's guru sabha was "helping ISKCON"? Aiding making the bat sh*t crazy into acharyas is going to help the criminals and their crimes, and not help anyone else.

PP: Bat sh*t crazy Godbrothers ..... and they were also attacking SNM like snakes as soon as he didn't suit their purpose as big Gurus who needed to learn about the more in depth Rasik katha.

[PADA: OK so they are bat sh*t crazy, they are snakes, they are promoting illicit sex acharyas, and the real problem is -- they need more rasika talks? Or don't they need hand cuffs and for us to call the police on their actions? Why do snakes, bat sh*t crazy people who orchestrate murders etc. ... qualify as rasika students?] 

PP: So you avoided my question to u?

[PADA: NM was constantly with the GBC folks, and he was visiting them and so on? He refused to talk to me? Now you are saying the gurus program he was giving rasika classes to are the bat sh*t crazy people. Why is NM giving "rasika classes" to the same people you identify as bat sh*t crazy and monkey folks, who can get people killed? And why is he saying I am a rascal for quoting my guru on the poison issue? That is helping them ... and endangering me because they are quoting him. He did not even care to hear the November 1977 tapes, of which I was the only person who was personally publishing at the time? He left and refused to hear ...]

PP: You're rather included in my description. You Americans are off the wall crazy. Put that in your blog too.

[PADA: OK so you are admitting he was giving rasika classes to bat sh*t crazy monkeys, who kill people, and he was helping them attack the people who bought out the poison issue, which could have got us killed by the bat sh*t crazy people he was helping by attacking me? I am glad you admit, he was making a rasika class program with bat sh*t crazy people who would kill people, and he was pouring gas on me by helping them along with the poison issue, which means, he could have got me killed by assisting them in that way. So now you are saying, opposing poisoners and molesters is off the wall crazy, that is the result of hearing from NM. He was chopping the legs off our protest and he was propping them up. Anyone who says there is a crime going on is crazy, that helps the crimes go on.]

PP: Apologies to all my American brethen. I get carried away with my impression of you. The main problem is the American lust or desire to consume everything and enjoy it, control it and then kill it . I know you are not all like this at all and there are many nice well mannered good morals Americans. The lustful ones who enjoy the opulences of command simply give a bad name

[PADA: Wonderful, so you admit NM was helping the bat sh*t crazy people who kill devotees, by agreeing with them and pouring gas on me. So you admit he was helping those people by giving them arguments to attack me (and the poison issue). This is good progress, so the GBC guru program he was assisting from 1978 - 1993 is not only monkeys they are bat sh*t insane people who murder others. Got it!]

PP: Srila Prabhupada was helping all the bat sh*t crazy americans was he not ?

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada never promoted them after they said that they are gurus? I am glad you admit that NM knew these people were bat sh*t crazy monkeys, therefore he was teaching fools rasika. You also admit that he knew they could kill people, so NM saying I am a rascal to help them means, he was pouring gas on me hoping they would finish the job? He was putting my life in danger by saying it was an offense to forward the poison issue, and you admit, they kill people for these things. Right, all my friends said that at the time, NM is pouring gas on you by defending the GBC on the poison issue, and he is endangering your life thereby. He was the main cheer leading assistant of the bat sh*t crazy acharya sabha ...]

PP: Thus Tims final glorious twist on words piecing them together like a true trained spy.

[PADA: I am quoting you? You said these people are bat sh*t crazy folks ...]

PP: No you are not . You never quote people correctly and thats why you are not a good source for these issues since you are simply a paid troll these days.

[PADA: Quoting you ... "bat sh*t crazy godbrothers ..... and they were also attcking SNM like snakes as soon as he didn't suit their purpose as big Gurus who needed to learn about the more in depth Rasik katha." OK Rasika katha to the -- bat sh*t crazy monkeys? Who kill people?]

PP: I know people like you who work for nefarious agencies have no moral compass and thats your choice or maybe you never had one . Your giving a bad name to your bosses.

[PADA: Wow, so our objecting to NM's supporting Tamal's child molesting guru program is not the moral path? We should have joined NM is promoting this process? You failed to answer the point, he was attacking the poison issue, he invited me over to discuss it, also because he was well known attacking me and the issue in public, but he refused to discuss it. So he wanted to pour gas on me to help the bat sh*t crazies ... who kill people. Most people think NM supporting a child molesting guru program is proof he is the nefarious agency.]

PP: You confess first who employs you?

[PADA: Now you are saying our exposing the molesting and poison issue is some paid up secret agency conspiracy? That is what Tamal said ... that is how you folks get people killed by demonizing them in this way. Of course as soon as we said Srila Prabhupada was complaining of being poisoned, then the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur types said I was "an agent of the illuminati." So they are also trying to kiss the boots of the poison sabha by discrediting anyone who exposes their odious crimes as some sort of "paid agents." Sorry, exposing molesting and poisoning is not something a person generally gets paid to do. Its dangerous work, and NM's and his pal's saying that we are rascals is making it more dangerous.]

PP: So many devotees know you to be in the employ of some Gov agencies and that would have happened at what stage. When you were going to the FBI or were you somehow turned before then?

[PADA: So you cannot answer these points, neither could NM ... Same thing with the child molesting issue, I said there is child molesting, NM said I was an offender to the dear Dallas Tamal tree. So we had to sue them for $400,000,000 in Dallas. They lost. And its ok to give rasika to people who are poisoners and orchestrating mass child molesting? That is your story and you are sticking to it?]

PP: All the same old talking points for years and years posted or spammed on any board you can notice. Do you have some sort of tech algorithm that alerts you to key words.

[PADA: Poison complaints and child molesting are some tech algorithm? Poison is some math problem? Amazing, the pure devotee says he is being poisoned and the NM folks think that is some math equation! No feelings, no mercy, no understanding of the severity of the issue. And now a devotee from Hawaii says the old Prabhupada disciples there are getting their kids to worship NM. We need to worship the number one hand maiden enabler of the molester and poisoner sabha, the biggest cheer leader of the bat sh*t crazy messiahs project? ys pd] 



NM's bat sh*t crazy acharyas

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Correct prabhu, NM is also harming neophytes by saying they can be diksha gurus --


Srila Prabhupada said that if we neophytes would become diksha gurus, we would be taking sins and that would make us get sick, fall down or both. Many of them died prematurely too. So when the disciples of Bhakti Tirtha swami sent me a notice to pray for their guru because he has taken too many of our sins, I said, he was specifically told not to take sins? Why should we pray to save people who violate the orders of their acharya? We should rob a bank, then pray to be saved from the police? Why would God answer such a prayer? ys pd

Monday, January 8, 2018

Various Updates on Bhaktivedanta Archives Site

Oprah helps Vegan Program

GBC's Shastric Advisory Committee



GBC Critique of 2013 SAC Paper

BY: VIDHEYA DEVI DASI


"The following is a critique by a GBC member of the Sastra Advisory Council’s 2013 FDG paper. The analysis is so scathing that the SAC was too embarrassed to publish their paper to the public. Thus it was not easy for us to get a copy of it and the GBC review. This paper could be held up as an example of how not to write a paper, it is that bad. But, you may be asking, why are we posting this here on Urmila’s blog? 

The reason is simple, Urmila is the chairwoman of the SAC and she is also pushing to be a diksa guru so she is the main one responsible for this SAC paper. Of course all other members of the SAC who signed off on it also bear responsibility but she is the main one. It is because of several papers like this that no one has any respect for or trust in the SAC. And, it thus reflects badly on her. Urmila’s ambition is to be in the spotlight, what she didn’t realize is that in the spotlight we can see all her spots.


Before you read the critique you should read the original SAC paper.

And, this is the response by ISKCON India in 2009 to the first SAC paper on FDG and the reason why the SAC came out with their 2013 paper.

and


Why Women Should Not Be on the Sastric Advisory Council


[PADA: First of all, why do acharyas need to have an SAC (Shastric Advisory Committee) to monitor and advise them in the first place? This is the first problem we have had with the Gaudiya Math / GBC / Rocana / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Hanuman Croatia program, apparently they think God's acharyas no longer need to receive dictation from God. Rather acharyas need to be "dictated to" by the GBC / or SAC committee, and be the subordinated peons of some sort of speculating group of conditioned souls. 

OK and the speculating GBC is the superior authority to the acharya, and will oversee and overlord the acharya. Worse, many in this same group also write complaints and advice for their acharyas, because they also think they are the superior advisors of the acharya. Where is this "acharya's advisory group" system used in the Vedas? Yep! The GBC / Rocana / Hanuman Croatia etc. are the advisors to the acharyas. 

OK, (A) they rubber stamp fools as their acharyas, then (B) correct and advise them? No! 

Acharyas are not the subordinated subjects of the control of conditioned souls or their contrived committees. These "acharya advisor" folks never understood the square one idea of Krishna consciousness, the acharya is getting dictation from Krishna, not from some faulty committee, and / or various ad hoc advisors like the SAC / Rocana / Torben / Hanuman Croatia etc. The acharya is being given dictation from Krishna, not these people. This is also what the GBC said in 1980, Sridhara Maharaja is our "advisor." Why do acharyas need such advisors? And what did Sridhara Maharaja advise? Well we should hold meetings and decide how these acharyas should operate. Speculating!

Thus! The GBC -- combined with their Shastra Committee -- comes up with all sorts of "rules for acharyas": The acharyas are to be: voted in, voted out, censured, monitored for deviations, chastised, over-ruled, suspended for deviations, and even -- excommunicated for deviations. What kind of acharyas are the subject of such rules? 

Rocana's "constitution" plans to have many more of these same "acharya rules" as part of his plan, but he forgets that acharyas are not subordinated to such committees and their rules? Some of the SAC shastra committee folks changed the process of bhogha offerings: we should offer bhogha to Krishna first, in case our guru is deviating. We cannot offer bhogha to the guru first, the system established by the acharya? And we need to offer to Krishna first, because our guru might be deviating? What kind of gurus are they producing then? 

And then Bhakti Vikas swami writes a book to condemn the SAC "Female Diksha Guru" idea. Yet BVKS never addresses the fact that acharyas would not be subordinated to such a committee in the first place? And he has to write a book to censure, correct, and educate -- the other acharyas? So he is another acharya advisor. Sorry, the acharya's advisor is -- Krishna. We might think we are going to take over the job of Krishna, and take over His position as the advisor of the acharyas, but that is how we fell to the material world in the first place -- we wanted to take over the post of Krishna. ys pd  

Sunday, January 7, 2018

Tamal: The Mercy Killer? (video)

Chant For Peace / Seva Radhika Devi (CD Baby)

Vrndavan Mahimamrta (Kusakratha dasa)

GBC invades -- Latvia?

http://www.winterfestival.lt/

PADA: Right, after 1977 the ISKCON GBC began promoting their idea that the path to God is to worship their illicit sex acharyas. That was gradually rejected wholesale and as such, they have essentially burned out their North American market, European market, and other important world markets. More and more people in various areas have been rejecting their program of worship of bogus messiahs aka sexual predators, drunkards, vodka drinkers, pot smokers, pedophiles, sex with taxi driver gurus and so on. 

But the last thing they want to do it change their product? 

In fact they even buried one of their favorite pedophile messiahs in Vrndavana. So now, they have to go to places where people are not so much aware of their history, like Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, and one guru told my friend he sticks with a teeny country in the third world so he will not be "embroiled in the controversy." Ok he is on the run from their history. 

Really, there is no controversy here, worship of illicit sex gurus, acharyas, messiahs and "members of a chain of gurus going to God" is a deviation. The people in Latvia simply do not know what snake oil the GBC is selling them over there. Anyway this is great, the circle of places they can go and fool people is getting smaller and smaller, hee hee! ys pd   

Who will be the next Mormon Prophet? (satire)

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/kirby/2018/01/07/kirby-if-god-picks-me-to-be-the-next-mormon-prophet-heres-what-i-will-do/

[PADA: Yep, this guy is writing a satire on the issue. Yet the Mormons are apparently in the process of selecting their next prophet. We wish them well, but for us conditioned beings to be selecting the next prophet does not always end well. That is because its generally (always!) the job of God to select His  prophets. 

And when us conditioned beings try to take up that task, there is plenty of room for error. 

This writer alludes to this point herein, maybe God will select someone else to be the prophet, and that prophet might not be the same person the council selects. That means: God has the actual exclusive authority to select / empower His own prophets -- and no one else. Correct! Just look at the line of bogus folks the ISKCON GBC "selects" to be their "God's successors" prophets, quite often -- debauchees and deviants. Hmmm, maybe its better to leave this job to the higher authority. 

Mind you, the Mormons we see are very nice people and they have a loving and caring society which looks after the vulnerable members and so on, and we could learn a lot from them how to make a functioning social infrastructure. However, when it comes to selecting the prophet, we all might do better to leave that to a higher source. 

ys pd]   

Friday, January 5, 2018

Hari Sauri Resigns



Hari Sauri / aka Denis Harrison

[PADA: Hari Sauri has dedicated almost all of his entire human life to helping the GBC establish their "illicit sex with men, women and children guru successors to God" guru lineage, and their "debauchees form a parampara chain from Vaikuntha" process. As Sulochana says, since even dogs are not engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, that means Hari Sauri is not even advanced enough to establish the worship of a dog. Rather HS establishes less than dogs as his worshiped messiahs "chain of gurus." 

Sulochana also said that Hari Sauri's guru program will maybe assassinate us, whereas a dog will lick us and befriend us. So Hari's Sauri's guru parampara is actually more deadly for the Vaishnavas than a dog. Again, way less advanced than dogs! Sulochana is right, dogs will not harm us, rather dogs will lick and befriend the Vaishnavas, while the Hari Sauri guru parampara can kill us, and did kill some of us.  

The good news is that eventually Hari Sauri will be going to a planet where they worship what he wants to have worshiped. There he will find a planet where the messiahs are just like what he wants to establish as worshipable, like debauchees, sexual predators, drunkards, fools, tyrants, drug addicts, deviants, criminals and -- gurus who are less than dogs, where he will be in heaven! He will find his home! 

Now he is handing off his "library project" to a big disciple of Radhanath swami, the "guru" who has buried a known pedophile in the holy dham. Yep, as soon as Hari Sauri finds people who bow down and worship apparent pedophiles in the holy dham, he falls off his seat and offers his prostrated obeisances. He has found his respected authority! Hari Sauri has been a big figure in the Mayapura program, where many ex-kuli victims report that abuse was going on under the watchful eye of these -- "managers." Did we forget to mention, many folks believe Radhanath is connected to the murder of Sulochana? 

Great, also working with Dayarama, a Jayapataka henchman who at least admits to me that the GBC is promoting homosexuals and other deviants as their acharyas. 

Did we forget to mention? 

Srila Prabhupada told us that we neophytes cannot take the post of diksha guru, because we will be taking sins that will cause us to get sick, fall down, or both. Yet! Right after Srila Prabhupada established that we are forbidden to be diksha gurus ... Hari Sauri launched a huge campaign to encourage the ISKCON neophytes to -- be diksha gurus. Yep, and then Hari Sauri's "gurus" started to get sick, fall down, and die prematurely from taking sins of their followers. In sum, Hari Sauri caused his own brothers to fall down, get sick and die prematurely.


Followed Hari Sauri's advice to be a diksha guru. 
How is that working out?




The Hari Sauri Guru parampara


By Pushti Devi Dasi

The Bhaktivedanta Research Centre (BRC) was formed in 2009 by His Grace Hari Sauri Prabhu as managing co-director along with His Grace Pranava Prabhu as academic co-director. It is located in Kolkata and is primarily a resource of Vedic & Vaisnava Literature which is open to all researchers, scholars & students. BRC houses rare collections of manuscripts, journals & books.

Since 2009, under guidance of His Grace Hari Sauri Prabhu & His Grace Pranava Prabhu, BRC has been has been on several manuscript retrieving missions, preservation process, translating & editing, collecting & displaying rare literature from the time of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami 1904, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur from 1866 & a hand-written manuscript on handmade paper of Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita dated back to 1780.

At present, after 9 years of building a strong foundation with his relentless efforts, His Grace Hari Sauri Prabhu, has decided to resign from active duty pertaining to his ill health. We, the BRC team, would like to thank him for his unconditional support, motivation & guidance for this unique & wonderful project. We wish him speedy recovery.

Please find below his letter of resignation:

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January 2, 2018

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I am writing to inform you of some important changes in the management of the Bhaktivedanta Research Centre (BRC) in Kolkata. As you know the BRC has for the last nine years emerged as one of the most important projects

in ISKCON, and indeed in the Vaisnava community as a whole, by collecting and preserving important historical documents of our Gaudiya Vaisnava lineage.
I have had the privilege of serving as the managing co-director along with our academic co-director Pranava Prabhu.

Most of you will know that in recent years my health has gradually been seriously affected by Parkinson’s disease which is ongoing. It has now progressed to the point where I feel I can no longer function effectively enough to fulfil the requirements of the service. I beg to inform you therefore that as of Gaura Purnima, March 2nd, 2018 I shall retire from active service at the BRC.

During the last few months I have been working with Pranava and others to insure that the project continues effectively up to the high standards we have already established, and indeed will continue to expand its services. I am pleased to inform you that Sriman Gauranga das brahmacari from Chowpatty, a leading disciple of His Holiness Radhanatha Swami, has agreed to take up the service as the new Administrative Director of the BRC.

Those of you who know Gauranga Prabhu know him to be a highly intelligent and capable manager who will insure the integrity of the BRC operation to the best possible standard. Gauranga Prabhu is currently organizing a team to carry out all the functions at the BRC along with the existing staff. So I am very optimistic of a smooth transition.

The regular work of the BRC in acquiring and preserving our literary heritage will continue on. For example just three weeks ago our library field team was successful in acquiring from the West Bengal State Archives the government work-records of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur from 1866 to 1892.

At the same time there are some important new developments to expand the BRC’s functions. A new trust has been formed with myself, Gauranga Prabhu, Doyaram Prabhu and Sriman Sumanta Rudra PhD. as the founding trustees. News of further developments will be made available from time to time.

Needless to say, BRC will continue to depend upon the generosity and support of our donors. Many of you have generously contributed to our membership program and my sincere request is that you continue to do so with full enthusiasm and confidence. We are entering into a new expanded era for the BRC and we can only do that with the generous support of the Vaisnava community.

Any inquiries as to how you can help the BRC are warmly welcomed and may be directed to His Grace Gauranga Prabhu – 


gaurangadas.in@gmail.com

Thank you once again for giving me your heartfelt support and the opportunity to serve you all.

Your humble servant

Hari Sauri das


BHAKTIVEDANTA RESEARCH CENTRE
110 A, MOTILAL NEHRU ROAD
KOLKATA 700 029
WEST BENGAL
INDIA
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IRM vs. Sundar Gopal (Singapore)

IRM (Krishna Kant)

Back To Prabhupada, Issue 54, Winter 2016/17

The previous article addresses the disciples of the guru hoaxers. We have also been asked about the position of disciples of Srila Prabhupada who support the guru hoax, even though they may not be guru hoaxers themselves.

Sincere service:

The request arose because our readers had directed us to statements made in a paper titled "IA77". The paper's compilation was guided by Singapore Temple President and Srila Prabhupada disciple, Sundar Gopal Dasa ("SG"). His history is that after the guru hoax began in 1978, he served under it. He took second initiation from guru hoaxer Hamsadutta, and then served as a Temple President under various GBCs, who were guru hoaxers. He stopped supporting the guru hoax in 1997 when he received The Final Order ("TFO") and his eyes were opened, and therefore GBC Resolution 303, 1999, sanctioned him for having accepted TFO stating he held "managerial or spiritual authority in ISKCON".

IA77 promotes him as having "spent more than four decades of his life in the sincere service of Srila Prabhupada". Yet, as just seen, 2 of these decades were spent supporting the guru hoax. Thus, if supporting the guru hoax is compatible with being in the "sincere service of Srila Prabhupada", then by extension the guru hoaxers themselves would also be engaging in "sincere service to Srila Prabhupada". Thus, by claiming this, IA77, which is supposed to oppose the guru hoax, contradicts its very aim.

[PADA: This is somewhat of a problem because we know a number of people in and around ISKCON who are externally serving the GBC's gurus, but inwardly they believe that Srila Prabhupada is their actual link to Krishna. This also happened at the time of Krishna, some people were externally serving Kamsa but internally they served Krishna. 

So we cannot make a blanket condemnation of all of the people inside the institution, since we cannot always know their inner feelings. We also know personally a number of people inside the inside the institution who accept our Prabhupadanuga idea, but for various reasons they remain inside the GBC's movement.]  

Disobedient disciples

The reality is that if one is a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, then the quotes in reference to the guru hoaxers, such as —

"First offense is guror avajna, defying the authority of guru. This is the first offense. So one who is offensive, how he can make advance in chanting? He cannot make. Then everything is finished in the beginning." 

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 4/7/74)

"If you become disobedient to guru, then your business is finished."

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 10/8/74) 

"If one is disobeying the spiritual master, he cannot remain in the pure status of life. He cannot be siksa-guru or anything else. He is finished, immediately."

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 4/7/74)

— apply just as equally to him if he supports the guru hoax, since he is also disobeying his guru's orders: to keep Srila Prabhupada as ISKCON's only diksa guru. Therefore, support of the guru hoax would not constitute being "in the sincere service of Srila Prabhupada", as IA77 claims about SG. Ironically, this fact is also accepted by IA77 itself, which states that serving under the guru hoax regime would actually constitute being "party to the offence", thereby leading IA77 to engage in a double contradiction.

[PADA: Right, we should ideally operate outside the GBC structure, if possible. That is the better alternate.] 

Two-tier caste system

The paper also states that SG:

"was initiated directly by Srila Prabhupada in January 1977".

It is claimed that SG was initiated "directly" by Srila Prabhupada because he became Srila Prabhupada's disciple during his physical presence. This implies that anyone accepting Srila Prabhupada as their diksa guru now would only be receiving "indirect" initiation. However, this two-tier "caste system" of devotees who have received "direct" and "indirect" initiations was not taught by Srila Prabhupada. Rather, it undermines the paper's supposed argument that Srila Prabhupada is everyone's diksa guru equally.

[PADA: Good. Everyone who worships Srila Prabhupada now should be considered as an equal disciple as the original pre-1977 disciples. Moreoever, many of the newer followers are doing better in their sadhana than a number of the "original disciples," many of whom went down hill spiritually especially after 1977.] 

Accepts hoaxer authority

The paper states that it will offer "sastric references" from the Srimad-Bhagavatam, but then it quotes many times from the Srimad-Bhagavatam translated by guru hoaxer HH Hridayananda Dasa Goswami ("HD") to make its arguments:

SB 10.44.10; 10.87.39; 11.2.42; 11.8.13; 11.17.33; 10.74.40; 11.2.46; 11.2.47;

And in the case of the last three verses listed above, Srila Prabhupada had actually also given translations for them by referring to them in the purports of his books. But even then the paper still preferred to quote the versions given by HD!

[PADA: Right, this is a good point, we should not quote the GBC's penned books as authoritative. PADA quotes them sometimes for reasons of exposing the faults of their statements, that is another thing.]

By elevating HD to a position of being on a par with — or as we saw in some cases, superior to — Srila Prabhupada in the matter of translating scripture, the paper defeats its supposed objective of opposing the guru hoax:

1) In BTP 51 article "The Unauthorised Cantos", we detailed how HD had completed the Bhagavatam cantos quoted by IA77 whilst being in the maya of the zonal-acarya guru hoax. HD had even written nonsense purports glorifying the other zonal acaryas. Yet, the paper believes this guru-hoax Bhagavatam is equivalent to Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavatam.

2) Srila Prabhupada states that translation of scripture must be done by one who is "very realised" (Room Conversation, 28/5/77). Thus, by accepting HD's translations as authoritative, the paper accepts he was "very realised", rather than a guru hoaxer.

3) The paper itself states that the guru hoaxers are "envious of Srila Prabhupada and should be neglected or disregarded". Thus, by relying on HD's translations, rather than neglecting and disregarding HD, the paper is not accepting that HD is a guru hoaxer.

While promoting the paper, its publishers had boasted that it contained "some never-before-added, compelling scriptural evidence". However, the only thing not seen before was "scriptural evidence" from a guru hoaxer, which those opposing the guru hoax would ‘never have added'.

Not Srila Prabhupada

The paper also claims that Srila Prabhupada stated:

"Your love for me will be shown by how you cooperate among yourselves after I have gone." "

Note the use of speech marks to indicate that it is presenting a direct verbatim quote from Srila Prabhupada. However, there is no such recorded quote from Srila Prabhupada. Rather, the first time this quote ever appears on record is from guru hoaxer HH Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami, in his 1981 Vyasa-puja offering. So, again IA77 accepts the authority of a guru hoaxer, rather than letting him be "neglected or disregarded".

Conclusion

Again, we have given examples of how the Prabhupada-Free Paradigm (PFP) leads even those opposing the guru hoax to unwittingly end up promoting it, in order to demonstrate just how dangerous it is. Therefore, we must only directly quote Srila Prabhupada and only state conclusions supported by his teachings.

[PADA: Correct, we cannot quote the GBC's literature as authoritative. We have had some problems with the Prahlad / HKC Jaipur types claiming that Sundar Gopal prabhu has the only factual realization of Srila Prabhupada's instructions. Evidently, he does not. 

Apparently Prahlad and one of his "lifetime brahmacari" counterparts are against some of the devotees who play guitars on their kirtans. And so we got a message from one of these people complaining that guitars are like "giant vaginas." And Prahlad and this guy also do not like PADA's contemporary music. Don't these guys have something else to do with their lives than seeing giant vaginas all over the planet? Hee hee! Similarly, we need to only listen to Sundar Gopal, he has the superior realization -- even over PADA -- but he has flaws in his source of citations?

At the same time, Sundar Gopal prabhu has been doing good service and preaching, and he should be encouraged in doing that. 

All of these problems have been created by a lack of communication among the various folks involved with this process. Often times certain people do not ever write to me, but they write about me, and thus they usually write wrong info because they never consulted with me. 

If Sundar Gopal wants to write papers on these topics, he should run them by some of us to double check the statements therein. Of course the same thing happened with the IRM, they wrote complaining about us, without consulting us. And the IRM thus made the wrong conclusions about: the books changes lawsuit, the child molesting lawsuit, the poison issue and so on. We are hoping that the various Prabhupadnauga groups will increase their communication in 2018 to avoid these contrary results. ys pd]  

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

Jayapataka's Immortality plan


Wanted to take karma against orders of Prabhupada

DD: Gauranga? He used to be like a big director in Mayapur, and everyone liked him but more and more the local Bengalis are running things now, so most of the Westerners are being siphoned off and sidelined from positions of authority .... nothing new really. Actually there's much more chanting of Hare Krishna going on around Mayapura even at these Sunday markets. Mostly its Russian Westerners here, not many others.

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PADA: A PADA friend recently coming back from Mayapura says that Jayapataka is getting "very paranoid" of Westerners these days. So he is trying to fill most of the prominent Mayapura positions with his "loyal Bengalis" (on salary?) before he departs, especially those who also have a solid link to the local police and government there. Right, most of the Westerners are not EVER going to worship the dead carcass of JPS, a founder father of the molester messiahs project, just like they are not flocking to worship the dead carcass' of Tamal, Kirtanananda, Jayatirtha or even Gaura Govinda maharaja. 


JPS is correct, at least on the count: The Westerners as a rule are not really interested in worshiping these fraudulent folks, dead or alive. So he desperately wants to establish his eternal samadhi project in Mayapura now, thinking that he will somehow live on forever in Mayapura by dint of having his carcass buried there. Ooops, shastra says -- once the soul is separated at the time of death from these JPS program type folks -- that orchestrates devotees being banned, beaten, molested and assassinated, those souls are escorted to the stone rollers on Yamaraja's planet, where they are crushed repeatedly without mercy. Their dead and gone body's location has nothing to do with their soul's future location. 



I will live forever in my eternal statue

Meanwhile! The Bengalis who write to me with questions from time to time, seem to be almost clueless about the actual history of the GBC's gurus and their criminal organization. Hence their questions seem to be almost kindergarten level, about a hundred years behind in their history information. Then again JPS complained that a number of his Bengali disciples cannot even read nor write. Yep! Its much easier to take advantage of illiterate village folks in Bengal than educated Westerners, no kidding! 

So it seems JPS is capitalizing on exploiting people who are not really up to speed on the real story of the GBC's guru process. Isn't that what crooks do: exploit ignorance; exploit the weaker, the less educated, the helpless. Is this not like the criminals who were arrested here for "phone scamming" some less aware elderly people -- by trying to steal their pensions on some bogus business loan deals? Preying on the less literate, the non-internet savvy, the weak and innocent? Is this something to be proud of? Unfortunately, scamming the ignorant means one has to later on take birth as an ignorant person and to be scammed oneself. 

Meanwhile, Bhakti Vikas swami is doing about the same thing, he is another person who hangs out in a semi-remote place like Salem India, far away from places where the more sophisticated / literate people are more aware of the GBC's history.  

Bhakti Vikas swami is the sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, and he says he is the dog of Srila Prabhupada. Yet! Bhakti Vikas swami has people worshiping his illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's process, which Sulochana concluded is -- less -- than dog behavior. So BVKS is yet another person who apparently has to hide out in remote places in India where he can prey on the less literate and un-informed people, and where he can promote his worship of illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara to a small group of more ignorant folks. 

Worship of: illicit sex gurus, Vodka drinking acharyas, offering LSD to the deity, porno swamis, sex with taxi drivers messiahs and so forth, its not going to be accepted widely by the mass of people, ever. Thus! These people are going to more remote places where there are more or less ignorant people who do not know the history of their illicit sex "chain of gurus from God." Once GBC guru says he purposefully hangs out in a remote place because "the screaming devotee mob wants to take down the GBC." Heh heh heh!

Yep, of course after Sulochana said their guru parampara is worse "acar" than dogs -- because at least dogs do not have illicit sex with men, women and children, dogs have a lot more dignity, then he was assassinated by the BVKS guru parampara folks? Someone asked me recently, why is Hanuman Croatia (lasting impressions web site) still supporting BVKS? Maybe he thinks their less than dogs acharya program can be revived? Sorry, it won't be revived, its going down.    



More advanced than some Jayapataka program's acharyas?

Anyway! Apparently, the Mayapura Westerners are being "phased out more and more," so the Bengalis will continue to worship the molester messiah's project guys in samadhis over there forever, at least that is the plan. So its corrupt over there, for sure. And my friend says that if anyone is found to get out of line, and go against the JPS regime, the local cops will reign that person in (same in Vrndavana). 

So it appears all about money and corruption over there, and was even at the time of Srila Sarasvati Thakura, people were trying to bribe the authorities to come after him. The good news is, they are boxed into certain areas where they can prey on a few ignorant people, but the mass of people worldwide are getting wise to their whole illicit sex acharya's scheme, which is also why our blog is getting way more hits this year than last, people are being educated gradually. The mundane police will not be able to save these guys from an educated mass of devotees, nor from the police of Yamaraja. Did we forget to mention, JPS voice is heard on the poison tapes? Sheesh, this guy has no clue what his future is going to be, he has no faith in shastra. ys pd

Dalit Protest in Mumbai

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/mumbai-dalit-strike-latest-updates-lowest-caste-city-transport-untouchable-protest-hindi-nationalist-a8139406.html

PADA: The outdated caste system there is dysfunctional and simply -- isn't working. There are little or none proper kshatriyas and brahmanas at the helm of the society, so the corrupted caste idea is simply used to exploit various sectors of the society. A number of Dalits are converting to become Christians andMuslims, that cannot be good for the so-called "Hindutva" cause. ys pd