"Until these world leaders read my books and take to this Vedic culture, what kind of civilization will they have? Dog race. Horse race."
"In my books the philosophy of Krishna consciousness is explained fully, so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily, the knowledge will be revealed to you, and by this process, your spiritual life will develop.”
"I am requesting all of my students to read my books very seriously every day without fail. In this way, if your mind becomes absorbed at least one or two hours daily in the transcendental subject matter of Srimad - Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita, and other books then very easily you will make your advancement in Krishna Consciousness."
"Therefore, I recommend you to read books more and more and try to understand the subject matter from different angles of vision and be always discussing it with your godbrothers even while you are working
at the press, and when you are working and you cannot read, then listen to the tapes of my lectures and hear in that way."
“There is nothing new to be said. Everything is in my books. Therefore, if you want to know me, read my books.”
"So there is nothing new to be said. Whatever I have to speak, I have spoken in my books. Now you try to understand it and continue your endeavor. Whether I am present or not present, it doesn't matter."
Srila Prabhupada asked a devotee, ‘can you quote the verse?’ They could not. Srila Prabhupada said, “Just see - you are not reading my books. You have to read my books and you have to study and learn my
books just like a lawyer learns the law books. You must know everything chapter and verse. If you do not know, how will you teach these men unless you know my books. Every day you have to read my
books. Do you know that every day even I read my own books?
Do you know why I read my books? I read my books everyday because even I learn something new when I read them. Do you know why I learn something new when I read my books? Because these books are not my books - I do not write these books. Every morning when I sit here to write my books Krsna comes personally and he dictates to me what to write, so I simply take dictation from Krsna and I write these books. Therefore when I read them even I learn something.”
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is preaching. Therefore we are writing so many books. Unless we take care of the books and preach and read ourself, understand the philosophy, this Hare Krsna movement will be finished within a few years. Because there will be no life. How long one can artificially go on, "Hare Kṛṣṇa! Haribol!" That will be artificial, no life.
Yaśomatīnandana: That's right Prabhupāda. We are so foolish, we never realize anything unless you tell us like that. Without preaching...
Prabhupāda: Without preaching, without understanding philosophy, you cannot keep your strength. Everyone should be thoroughly well - conversed with the philosophy which we are putting... That means you
must read thoroughly every day.
PADA: Narayana maharaja personally invited me to his ashram when we met on Venice beach, he was pleading humbly -- that he needed to discuss Krishna katha with me. And so I accepted his very humble and nice offer, and so -- I drove all the way to Fullerton on the crazy LA freeways. Then I was shocked, instead of visiting with me at our appointment time, he ran into his room and closed the door. Is this etiquette for vaishnavas? Then he simply stayed in his room and ignored me totally, and left me sitting outside his room ALL DAY LONG. I sat there for ten hours, he simply -- cancelled our meeting four times by messengers from his disciples, without talking to me FOR ONE SECOND. And then at 5pm he fled the property by sneaking out the back door. HE LEFT ME SITTING there FOR TEN HOURS! Now Anjali says she also has to sneak out the back door without discussing. So that means, they have no siddhanta, they cannot defend their siddhanta. And their siddhanta was and is: to give "gopi rasika classes" to deviants posing as Vishnupada acharyas. Incidentally, stay tuned to my blog, I am going to analyse how Narayana Maharaja taught his top sannyasas that the children of ISKCON were "just getting their karma" -- while Narayana Mj was the topmost "shiksha guru" "rasika guru" "siddhanta advocate" -- i.e. main cheer supporter of the post-1977 molester acharyas regime. He supported the regime that molests children, then he says, too bad, the children got their karma? And now NM's wonderful acharyas that he supported have just now buried a huge deviant named Kirtanananda in the holy dham? Sorry this is HIS bad karma, he is implicated in support of these false messiahs, sahajiyas, artificial acharyas, rasika classes fools, and orchestrators of child molesting and etc. So I will make a full report of NM's "children just got their karma" on my blog soon:
And as for the Yamaduttas, yes they are anxiously awaiting the time they can get their dogs to check those who support child molester messiah regimes. Especially, when the children are the children of vaishnavas. Thanks ys pd
“In this regards Srila Prabhupada clearly states that a devotee other than an uttama adhikari (pure devotee on the topmost platform of God-realization) can initiate.” (Sivarama Swami, CTP)
Gaurahari das: Oh, so is he saying he is uttama himself? It appears he is taking disciples. When did he follow Srila Prabhupada ritvik instruction even one day before taking disciples? Bhaktivinode thakur said in his treatise on Sadhu Ninda, “Even a Brahmin who does not follow strictly the order of their uttama adhikari Guru he remains on the neophyte platform." By his qualities of not following Srila Prabhupada's ritvik instruction and jumping over that order to initiate, we declare that Sivarama is a neophyte swami.
He is like all neophyte Gurus, Narayana Maharaja, Gour Govinda Maharaja, Gaudiya Matha so called Acaryas, all unclear about their own devotional position which is their symptom, otherwise they would have followed Bhaktisidanta's and Srila Prabhupada's ritvik instruction to first initiate on their behalf before jumping over the order which is the symptom false confidence of the neophyte who thinks, "I am a great Vaishnava like my Guru, and I can also do like him, and I am highly qualified." A madyama adhikari knows honestly his own devotional position because he loves his guru and is not competitive with him.
Without guile he loves and lives to serve Srila Prabhupada's ritvik order, glorifying, promoting it to bring disciples to Srila Prabhupada’s feet because Srila Prabhupada requested this as his final instruction -Bas. This is the unmotivated disciple, very rare to be like this, but Shivarama swami prabhu you are hopefully getting on the right track now, just act appropriately become a ritvik initiator and be happy to be serving Srila Prabhupada as he asked to be served by his final ritvik instruction to you. He asked in this way to give him a glass of water, therefore now given him what he wants and not something else which is a third class to do so. Just be happy and clear that it’s the right thing to do to follow Srila Prabhupada's ritvik order because Guru asked for this to be done, Sastra confirms," The order of the Acarya is the active principal of spiritual life, disobeying it one becomes transcendentally useless." Adi lila 12th chapter.
Real Sadhus like Mahavirya das, an old Srila Prabhupada disciple, also confirms. All three checks and balances, Guru, Sadhu, and Sastra are here. What we are discussing and using a personality like Shivarama swami's example is very potent. Vaishnava means how to deliver the final deathblow to subtle hypocrisy and lack of crystal clarity of seeing everything as the real Acarya sees on the very highest levels discussed in our devotional literatures. I can only use a living example like Shivarama to do so because he is up there and almost all the way through and just needs this final push if he will accept this clear and proper proposal.
If one wants the truth more than anything else and is willing like Bali maharaja to sacrifice, immense wealth, prestige of being a false pure devotee, such a sincere disciple of Srila Prabhupada will sacrifice everything for it. If Shivarama and other Gurus, who have acted without authority against Srila Prabhupada’s ritvik order, does not see what we are logically presenting here and resists the truth, they are still in an obstruction, bewildered like Sucracharya was bewildered by subtle motivations for subtle material gain.
He tried to stop his disciple Bali Maharaja from serving the transcendental order of Vamana deva for Bali Maharaja to give this transcendental Brahmin everything. We have the same test come again in the form of the neglected true ritvik order of Srila Prabhupada asking Shivarma, Narayana Maharaja, Gour Govindia Maharaja, ISKCON Gurus to all give Srila Prabhupada everything that they consider to be their own but was actually taken from Srila Prabhupada against the authority of his ritvik instruction to them. The real fact now and it has always been case is that Srila Prabhupada is genuinely requesting that you give it all back to him and be satisfied just being a possession-less humble servant who cannot call anything, disciples,buildings, prestige,honor, money -- their own, in exchange for simply being his eternal sincere servant without guile. In exchange for this he will give the genuine pure bhakti dot com or engagement in the pure loving service of Krishna forever. You won’t be cheated as before.
If Shivarama and all these above mentioned Gurus ( Some dead) refuse to offer you who are actually Srila Prabhupada's disciples back to Srila Prabhupada's feet then you are free to follow the recommended path of Bali Maharaja and neglect your subtly motivated Gurus who may even curse you, and go yourself to Srila Prabhupada feet because he promises to give you all protection, guidance, and potency to serve him properly. Bali Maharaja was not acting independently.
Bhagavatam stated that he considered his real instructor his Grandfather Pralad Maharaja who knew these very same principals we teach here but are unknown to powerful Gurus like Sucracharya, Shivarama, Narayana Maharaja, Gour Govinda Maharaja, Jayapataka Maharaja which gave him the potency to surrender to real order of Krishna and not to those who cannot yet follow the transcendental order of Vamana deva or Ritvik order which demands everything to have that eternally transcendentally loving relationship with Krishna established. Therefore those of you who are the more intelligent disciples of all these mentoned Gurus now know the same clear truth that Bali Maharaja understood and you can now act following the same path of Bali that Bhagavatam describes.
Neglect Shivarama and all these Gurus order not to follow ritvik instruction and run in droves to surrender yourself back to Srila Prabhupada's feet your real master, savior and purifier. Showers of flowers that came upon Bali maharaja by following the true transcendental order of Vamana deva will come upon those who neglect the angry bluffs, rebukes and curses coming from motivated Gurus against following the transcendental Ritvik instruction of Srila Prabhupada, which is the real door to immortality.
Sivarama swami, all other Gurus, who made a mistake usurping what belongs to Srila Prabhupada, and their disciples have now heard the real truth logically presented here. If these Gurus are honest and intelligent they will admit their mistake, turn over their disciples to worship Srila Prabhupada's feet and be gloried with showers of flowers also. If they agree to follow the ritvik order they are immediately elevated to Madyama bhakta, if they resist the truth then follow Srimad Bhagavatam ordained plan B. If you’re intelligent like Bali Maharaja you will neglect your neophyte guru who refuses to serve without motive for personal gain the transcendental ritvik order of Srila Prabhupada.
No need for reinitiation, just consider your initiation ritvikly performed in the name of Srila Prabhupada even though your Guru was unclear of his own devotional position when he gave you initiation. This will please Srila Prabhupada immensely and no other way can you please him perfectly. Bringing yourselves and everyone else back as offering to Srila Prabhupada’s feet is even better than distributing books and bringing everyone back to the feet of usurping Gurus. Do this first then distribute books. Srila Prabhupada is meant to be the non duplicitous rock solid foundation all ISKCON’S activities in this world. On this foundation you will become a no nonsense truthful lion like preacher coming in the line of the original Lion like Lord Caitanya who roared loudly to drive away the elephantine offenses of this Kali Yuga. Jaya ys GD
BOGUS DEMON ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE PRABHUPADAS TEACHINGS!
Chandrashekhar dasa: THE BONE PICKER Drutakarma Dasa aka Michael A. Cremo wants us to accept his idea: "The basic understanding of guru in ISKCON should be that they are madhyama devotees whose qualification is that they are following a pure devotee. This constitutes their purity."
Srila Prabhupada "When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru." (C.c. Madhya, 24.330, purport)
Chandra Shaker THIS DEMON ALSO STATED "The first step should be the removal of any ISKCON authority who promotes or otherwise encourages the rtvik heresy. If anyone wishes to be a party to the ongoing process of reform in ISKCON, they should first give up the rtvik fantasy. If they do so, they should be welcomed. If not, they should be shown the door. " SO THEY CAN TEACH US THAT BOGUS CONDITIONED SOULS ARE GURUS!
Chandra Shaker YES BONE MAN IS VERY PROUD OF HIS MATERIAL SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE, AND SO HE THINKS HE IS QUALIFIED TO CHANGE PRABHUPADA'S TEACHINGS. HE WANTS DEVOTEES TO ACCEPT THAT DEBAUCHEES AND PEDOPHILES ARE GURUS, OR ELSE THEY WILL SHOW US THE DOOR..LOL
Chandra Shaker Bone man claims Srila Prabhupadas ritvik system is heresy ... then he attempts to introduce a new type of Guru .. "Conditioned soul Gurus" ...lol. He wants to throw out any devotees who want to worship the PURE DEVOTEE. However if you want to stay and GAMBLE on a GURU who may well be a PEDO as JAS has stated...then you are welcome to stay. lol
PADA: Yes, worship of a pure devotee is heresy, whereas -- worship of Drutakamra's illicit sex with men, women and children "acharyas" is bona fide. Of course even if we dig up the ancient bones of cave men we find no historical evidence that the cave men worshipped illicit sex with men, women and children, they were vastly more advanced than this standard, in other words Drutakarama is not as advanced as a cave man. ys pd
[PADA: This is great stuff actually. "Dissenters" have been banned, beaten, assaulted and sometimes killed for the past 35 years, but finally more and more of these "victims" are openly speaking up. The fear of the goonda bully commission (GBC) is diminishing, and there are thus more and more folks speaking up, writing, starting web sites, posting on blogs etc. -- exposing this rascaldom. Had this "expose" style started at the beginning in 1978, these violent goons would have been exposed a long time ago. Anyway, better late than never! This new wave of brave vaishnavas deserve lots of credit because after they expose this type of thing, it saves others from falling into the same trap and getting victimized. ys pd]
Oct 22 2011, Vrindavan, India — We have been observing FISKCON`s unhealthy dynamics for a while now and it struck us with wonder; the sheer amount of devious activities that individuals can get away with, provided that they are willing to follow well rehearsed and established criminal code of FISKCON`s criminal elite.
The criminal code in its self is quite simple; as long as you are able and/or willing to act nice, dress nicely, be well behaved and soft spoken, become skilled at speaking stories fictitiously, dramatically and emotionally, fake it that you are advanced, be able to plausibly lie at any time, place, or circumstances, glorify the wonderful activities and imaginary qualities of the rest of the criminals within the FISKCON Corporation regardless how oxymoronic they may be, just be externally nice and pleasant fellow, and DO NOT speak the truth, turn a blind eye to any criminal activity you see, do not point out philosophical deviations, do not point the breaking of any moral, ethical and spiritual standards given to us by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada and previous Acarya, and under any circumstance do not criticize.
(The definition and denotation of the term “criticize” is what FISKCON criminal elite says it is)
Here are some practical examples of individuals who are perfectly exemplifying this criminal code.
Jayadvaita swami aka Jay Israel - With his soon to be published (BG 4.34- by BBTi ; re-interpretation by His Divine Disgrace aka Mr. Jay Israel aka Victory to Israel)
“Just try to learn the criminal code by approaching a hardened criminal master. Inquire from him submissively, and render service unto him. The criminal souls can impart the knowledge of the criminal code unto you because they are hardened criminals who have realized the criminal code.”
Yes, you can be a deconstructionist re-interpreting your Guru and Acharya`s books, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Radhanath Swami aka Richie Slavin - expertly and willfully participated in murder of a Vaisnava who questioned top down, heavy handed management. At the time Richie plausibly demonstrated via misuse of scripture, approving the murder of individual who was defined by Riche and Keith to be offensive and Guru aparadhi that has to die.
The new and re-interpreted style of FISKCON`s preaching, expertly incorporating impersonalism, sahajism, and corporatism by Richie is very welcome addition within the society and is becoming a exemplary model for the rest of society that has to follow this trend ,… or perish.
Yes, you can be a murderer, mayavadi, performing the blues, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Braja Bihari das - Loves to control and manipulate things whilst lurking behind the scene. If you would like to achieve anything within this FISKCON Corporation, you have to only ask for his approval and blessing. He is FISKCON`s corporate don. Provided it is not traditional. Any kind of modern hodgepodge (regardless how ridiculous it may be) that undermines and belittle Vedas, Srila Prabhupada, and His instructions and will help him politically correct the institution are very welcome. He likes to protect child abusers or any other criminal types of devotees, because they become loyal dogs of his, that he can use in his mission to change and convolute the society into mundane corporate/secular institution. Who cares that he was single handedly responsible for the Turley law suit against FISKCON.
Yes, you can be twisted and devious skeptic whose mission is to destroy anything that resembles Vedic Vaisnava tradition, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Sivarama swami - Loves to spend time and vast amounts of money in five star hotels and resorts relaxing, and writing fictitious pastimes of Radha and Krsna while demanding from his followers to live on the farm in poverty and austerity working hard for “Krsna”. Whilst living an opulent lifestyle, rocking in his gravity-free chair, he is writing other books such as Siksa outside FISKCON forbidding anyone going out whilst himself and his gopi friends do just that. Whilst flying first class he is writing documents defining who is and who is not a member of FISKCON, while all his projects in Hungary are privately incorporated and are not in FISKCON name.
Yes, you can be a swami spending ludicrous amounts of money on the personal pampering and comfort and foolosophize the rest of the time, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Indradyumna swami - Likes to be around young and little girls. He likes to play the role of the “spiritual” uncle and grandpa. He enjoys hugging little girls; he takes pleasure playing with them whilst they sit on his lap. He is very special sannyasi, because he can do all that without any problems. He loves to play photographer taking photos of bikini girls and posting them on his profile for everyone to see how special he and his “preaching” is. He also likes to enjoy the luxury of a five star hotels, as any normal FISKCON sannyasi should.
Yes, you can be swami playing with girls, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Romapada swami - is very helpful swami. He loves helping devotees in distress who are in need of money. It gives him an immense pleasure and satisfaction playing a loan shark lending the needy devotees the money at exorbitant interest rate.
Yes, you can be swami/moneylender, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Bhakti Caru swami – He loves being a business man. In the past he was investing his easy earned daksina into many private business ventures. Then he stared to think really big, like any big swami/business man should. He borrowed millions of dollars for his highly speculative survey airplane scheme. Shortly after takeoff, the business crashed and swami refused to pay the money back, as he promised he would. He did take a four million dollar loan at bank of India against his temple as collateral. Where did that money go, nobody know…
Yes, you can be a swami/the gambling business buffoon, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Harivilasa das – He just loves to create an exemplary FISKCON Hindu temple. Within this fabulous FISKCON Hindu temple you are welcomed and encouraged to worship a deity of Durga provided you swipe your Credit/Debit card, anyway it all for the pleasure of Krsna and Srila Prabhuapad. He also loves to homogenize and integrate other like minded mayavad/sahajia individuals by giving them an M.C role on Ratha Yatra day. One big happy and lovely religiosyncretic family he is having.
Yes, you can be religiosyncretic FISKCON temple, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize..
Here are the last two examples of successful individuals who understood the criminal code of FISKCON. We just received a phone call from a friend of ours who is attending Mumbai GBC meetings and he let us know on the latest lila of “Dynamic duo” that is happening in Vrindavan dham.
Abhirama das – He loves to sweet talk devotees and karmi`s alike into loaning/investing him large quantities of money that he can spend on his well deserved lifestyle. He loves taking on the project in FISKCON where he is having access to large amounts of money at his disposal. (Like a Mayapur project and MVT) He also loves to sweet talk and bewilders ladies into making them do things that normally they wouldn`t do. As of lately his ex girlfriend/wife came to Abhirama`s abode exposing his manipulating activities. Apparently he did not like such a negative image exposure of his lovely character so he used and manipulated MVT resident ladies to tie and beat his former girlfriend/wife and kicked her out of MVT. Yes police came and so did FRO. Poor girlfriend/wife had to be hospitalized.
Yes, you can be liar, and a sweet talking manipulative crook, with girlfriends, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize…
Panca Gauda das – The Vrndavan temple president who loves to be ‘enthusiastic gambler’, borrowing money from his Guru-MVT trust-even if Guru says in the trust documents that no individual should borrow the money for a personal business. He loves slapping devotees and kicking them out of the temple, giving FISKCON a very nice and extensive un-favorable media coverage. He also loves to play with his gopis who are not his wife… Hush… Hush…
Yes, you can be a player and ‘enthusiastic gambler’, just smile, be nice and sweet, pat people on the back, or just give`em a hug, is all-right as long as you follow the Criminal code…and do not criticize…
This exemplary list can go on and on, but hey, dear readers… you get the point.
So, I would like to invite all the beautiful people out there to please join our beloved FISKCON. You can be murderer, pedophile, practicing gay, crook, twisted and sick megalomaniac, sociopath, or whatever you are; please join us and do what you would like to do…it really does not matter.
FISKCON is a jailhouse where all of us can live together. JUST REMEMER, FOLLOW THE CRIMINAL CODE… is quite simple; as long as you are able and/or willing to act nice, dress nicely, be well behaved and soft spoken, become skilled at speaking stories fictitiously, dramatically and emotionally, fake it that you are advanced, be able to plausibly lie at any time, place, or circumstances, glorify the wonderful activities and imaginary qualities of the rest of the criminals within the FISKCON Corporation regardless how oxymoronic they may be, just be externally nice and pleasant fellow, and DO NOT speak the truth, turn a blind eye to any criminal activity you see, do not point out philosophical deviations, do not point the breaking of any moral, ethical and spiritual standards given to us by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada and previous Acarya, and under any circumstance do not criticize!
[PADA: Many of the original leaders of the "child molester acharyas program" since 1977, like Jayapataka, Hrdayananda, Satsvarupa and many others -- are still fully in charge of ISKCON. None of these leaders has ever been held accountable for the mass molesting of children in ISKCON, nor have they even resigned in shame.
What is worse is -- some of the biggest "molesting empires" have been built in the holy dhams of Vrndavana and Mayapura. Then we have people like Bhakti Caru, Radhanatha, Gopal Krishna, Dayarama and similar others who are part and parcel of the CONTINUED cover up of crimes and molesting all along, and they are not only "still in charge" -- they are spending millions of dollars suing us because -- we fail to worship their child molester acharya's program. And now these same folks are making a worshipful burial of their worst offender child molester acharya, Kirtanananda, in the holy dham!]
Vrindavana Gurukula: 40 Years of Child Abuse Cover-up and Counting...
BY: SANAKA RSI DAS
Nov 24, 2011 — ITALY (SUN) — New allegations of child abuse in the Vrindavana Gurukula
I reported the incident mentioned in this letter to the CPO (Child Protection Office) on the 7th of November, 2011. I am very concerned by the lack of professionalism, transparency and care for the welfare of the children shown by the CPO in handling this case. I am alarmed to see how the mentality that regards the interests of the establishment above all, even the adequate protection of our children, is still very much alive both amongst the management of the Vrindavana Gurukula and with the CPO authorities.
Bringing this matter to the attention of the devotee public is the only valid alternative I see for the protection of the children in the Vrindavana Gurukula. I apologize for the inconvenience and distress this will cause to some. As there is a lot of material, I have divided it in parts that will be published in the coming days.
[PADA: Oh goody, another devotee wakes up and realizes he has to join PADA, i.e. go public with our complaints, because its the only way to get any notice at all.]
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: sanaka rsi
Date: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Subject: Report on recent incidents of mistreatments at the Vrindavana Gurukula
To: "CPO (Child Protection Office)" , "Praghosa (das) SDG (IRL)" <email@example.com>, "Vrajabhumi" firstname.lastname@example.org, "Ananda Vrindavana (dd) (Vrindavana Gurukula - IN)" <email@example.com>, "Bhaktarupa (das) ACBSP (Bhubaneswara - IN)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
Dear Champakalata Mataji,
Please accept my respectful obeisance. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I arrived in Vrindavana a few days ago. A friend informed me that a teacher in the Gurukula wanted to report some incidents of corporal punishment in the school to the CPO, but did not know the appropriate procedure or whom to contact. On his request I met with Vrajabhumi mataji, she gave me the report I am including at the bottom of this email.
The first thing that transpires in reading her report is the lack of awareness, training and concern of the school teachers and managers. Just the fact that one of the Gurukula teachers in Vrindavana has not been briefed on how to report incidents to the CPO is, in and of itself an alarming indication.
The second is the absence of local CPO representatives in Vrindavana, where we have one of the main Gurukulas in ISKCON. It is imperative to ensure that the Mayapur and Vrindavana Gurukula are transparent and that there is adequate CPO presence. The schools need supervision, the staffs need to be effectively trained and briefed on ISKCON's child protection policies and requirements. If this is not done, the CPO will be at least in part responsible for any abuse that may take place.
I also want to point out that in India, as of 2007 corporal punishment in schools has been outlawed. I am by no means an expert in Indian legal matters, but my guess is that potentially the families of the children that have been mistreated may be in a position to sue ISKCON.
[PADA: Right, sue em in court!]
I believe it is vital that the CPO initiates an urgent inquiry in this recent matter. From reading the report, I am concerned that the school staff may attempt to instruct the children on an official "doctored" version of the incidents to be given in the event of an inquiry. To try and avoid this possibility, it may be a good idea to act swiftly and not to give the school management too much notice.
I suggest speaking with Nirguna mataji, she was the CPO representative in Vrindavana up until two years ago, when the new management took over. She still lives in Vrindavana, but is no longer active in the CPT. Her number is [*omitted]. Although he is extremely busy, another good person to speak to would be the temple president Panca Gauda prabhu. His phone number is [omitted], his email is email@example.com.
[PADA: Oh great, this is the same Pancagauda guy who just bowed down and offered obeisances to Kirtanananda, who is being buried in the holy dham under the supervision of the GBC and Pancagauda, this is a guy who worships molesters! Why are we writing to these people? Go public, go to the media, join with other Prabhupadanugas and expose these people, do not bother to write to them!]
I expect to be in Vrindavana till the 15th of November. I will be happy to assist in any way I can, my phone number here is +91-9557303313. Hare Krsna Thank you
* Omitted phone numbers can be requested from Sun Staff
* * * * * Brajabhoomi dasi: Report on the Vrindavana Gurukula
My name is Brajabhoomi devi dasi, I have served as teacher in ISKCON Gurukulas for almost 20 years. From 1991 to 2001 I taught at the Bhaktivedanta Manor School in England with Mokshalaxmi mataji and Jagadattri mataji. Between 2001 and 2008 I served as a residential ashram teacher at the Vrindavana Gurukla. In the spring of 2011 on recommendation of Ananda Vrindavana mataji, the former Vrindavana Gurukula principle, I resumed my teaching service in Vrindavana.
I served in the capacity of ashram manager for the smaller children. As part of my duties I regularly checked the ashram to ensure that the children were clean and safe and that the teachers were taking proper care of them. I also served as a substitute ashram teacher 3 days a week.
Before starting I will give a brief introduction of the key individuals involved in the management of the Vrindavana Gurukula and the incident I wish to report herewith. Lila Purushottama prabhu is the school principal. He is from Orissa, but lives and works in the city of Kanpur (which is about 300 KM from Vrindavana). He visits Vrindavana about once a month. His involvement in the day to day management of the Gurukula is non-existent.
Radha Kantha prabhu, is also from Orissa. Officially he is the vice-principal, but practically speaking he runs the Gurukula, he takes care of the day to day management and makes some of the major executive decisions. He has been a devotee only a few years. Suranand prabhu is the ashram director, and he also serves as the ashram teacher for the children of the 11th and 12th grade.
Tejasvini mataji, also from Orissa, was the ashram teacher for the children between 5 and 8 years of age (she has been temporarily suspended after this incident, but is due to be re-employed in the near future). Nirguna mataji, is the lady that served as the CPO representative when Ananda Vrindavana mataji was the principal of the school. Practically speaking, since the change of management there has been no CPO representative in Vrindavana. As far as I know this is due to Nirguna's poor health, but also because she has expressed her unwillingness to work with the new management.
In my observation, the Gurukula is run very much like a bhakta program. The school promotes a forceful approach of imposing Krishna Consciousness on the children. When the children do not wake up for mangala arati, they are made do write the Mahamantra 200 times and wash 100 plates. The school is of the opinion that this will be for the benefit of the children because for in this way they will make spiritual advancement.
On the 18th of October 2011, Tejasvini mataji took a one week leave from her service to spend time with her visiting mother; I was asked to fill in for her. Soon after I took over, I noticed a significant change in the behaviour of the boys in her ashram that gave me reason for concern. When I had observed the boys with Tejasvini, they had been very quiet, obedient and subdued, whereas with me they were behaving as I would expect children their age to; they were naughty, exuberant and playful.
I spoke to the boys and inquired about their life in the ashram, I asked them if they were happy and if everything was going well. They told me that they did not want Tejasvini mataji to come back, because she was hurting them. I asked the boys to tell me what she did to hurt them; the accounts they shared left me disturbed.
There are 17 boys in her ashram; out of them 14 have received some form of physical abuse. Of the 3 boys that have been spared, 2 have extremely protective parents and the other has an xxxxxxx in the school. It appears to me that on some level she has consciously chosen to only harm the children she thinks she will get away with hurting, staying well clear of the boys that are more protected and more likely to get her in trouble.
She slapped the boys. Using 3 fingers, she would pinch the flesh of their bellies and then do a 180 degree twist with her hand while still pinching their tummies, often causing them to cry. When the boys would cry, to get them to stop she would pinch them again on their chest. Sometimes, with her hand she squeezed their neck and choked their throat causing the children great pain.
xxxxxx and xxxxxx, two of the younger boys in the ashram are the ones that have suffered the worst abuse; on more than one occasion she has grabbed them by their sika she hit their head against the wall. I know of two occasions when, as punishment, she made them skip their meal. I once found xxxxxx crying alone in the corridor, I asked him what was wrong and he told me that Tejasvini mataji didn't let him have prasadam. I then took him to the prasadam hall and fed him.
One day before Tejasvini took her leave, xxxxxx, one of the boys came to me crying. He lifted his kurta and showed me a big red welt on his tummy and told me that Tejasvini had pinch-twisted his stomach very hard. I went to see Tejasvini and asked her why she had hurt xxxxxx; she replied that the boy had been hitting other children, so she had decided that by hurting him, she would show him what he was doing to the boys and thus teach him not to do it again.
After listening to the boys I told them that now that they had told me about this, I had to report it to Radha Kanta prabhu. They agreed, because they wanted to make sure that Tejasvini mataji did not come back to their ashram. On October 19th, as I was getting the boys ready to go to the temple I saw Radha Kantha Prabhu, I told him that we wanted to speak to him. We sat down with all the boys. When the boys were finished giving him a detailed account of the abusive behaviour of Tejasvini dasi, he told them, "Oh, well, surely you must have been very naughty". I was very disappointed.
I explained to Radha Kanta that it had taken a lot of courage for the boys to speak up and that it was our duty to protect and encourage them. I also told him that blaming the children for the abuse they had endured for months was unacceptable. I spoke to Radha Kanta later the same evening and he revealed to me that he had wondered why the children were so obedient and restrained with Tejasvini. I told him that I felt Tejasvini should not be allowed to teach the children again. I also told him that it was his duty to report the incident to the CPO immediately. To which he replied that we should wait until the principal got back to Vrindavana. He requested me to keep the incident confidential and instructed me not to approach the CPO.
The following morning, the 20th of October, I met with Radha Kanta and Suranand prabhus, I told them that the children were concerned that if Tejasvini was allowed back to be their teacher, she might hurt them in retaliation for denouncing her to the school authorities. They were complacent about the whole matter, Radha Kanta prabhu again told me to wait for the arrival of the principal and not to report the incident to the CPO.
xxxxxxxx, one of the children told me that one morning he did not dance during mangala arati, because he was not feeling well, as a punishment, afterwards Tejasvini mataji made him jump 200 times. On October 21st, just before the school break, I took him to see the ashram director, Suranand prabhu. xxxxxxxx was uncomfortable to speak up, I reassured him that everything would be fine and then he related the incident to Suranand. After hearing the account, Suranand said, "Why have you waited so long, why didn't you speak before". I was frustrated. Instead of taking a proactive approach to adequately address the incident, he decided to tell the boy what he had done wrong. I felt that he took the matter very lightly; he was not concern with the misconduct of the teacher, but rather decided to lay the blame on the boy.
I did not feel reassured that they would handle the situation correctly; I was concerned they would not report the incident or have it properly investigated. So on the 25th of October, I decided it was my responsibility to inform the CPO. Not knowing who to turn to, I spoke to Nirguna mataji. Although she has not been active as a CPO representative in the last 2 years, she was the only person I could turn to.
Before the boys went home for their holiday Radha Kanta assured me that when the Principal would arrive in Vrindavana, he would arrange a meeting with me, him and the Principal to address the matter. I was never called. The boys were due back on the 30th of October. On the 29th at 9,30 pm, the evening before the school reopened, Radha Kanta called me to inform me that they had decided to suspend Tejasvini mataji from the school until the matter had been investigated further and that I was not welcome to resume my service in the Gurukula.
I inquired as to the reasons that had made them decide to sack me; his reply was short and blunt, "it is our decision, end of discussion". After this he hung up the phone. Feeling unsatisfied with his reply, I called him again and pressed him for the reason that had prompted them to sack me. He then told me that I had been fired because I had disregarded his request to not report the incident to the CPO.
Radha Kanta prabhu, then submitted a report of the incident with Nirguna mataji, she informed him that she could not accept his report alone; she told him that she needed a report from me as well. On the 3rd of November Radha Kanta called me to ask if I could compile a report of the incident. In my whole career as an ashram teacher, this is the first time I come across a situation where a faculty member is discharged for reporting incidents of abuse to the CPO. I approached the CPO out of concern for the welfare of the children. I did this on the recommendation of Ananda Vrindavana mataji, she told me that if I felt that the children were not safe I needed to inform the CPO immediately.
One last thing I think is important to mention is that, Mother Padyavali from Australia, another long standing teacher in the Vrindavana Gurukula has been recently laid off. I am concerned that the school management may be operating on a policy of removing qualified and experienced teachers, if they happen to disagree, confront of challenge their modus operandi.
From what I have observed, they actively discourage any form of feedback and constructive criticisms. I think this is very unhealthy and is likely to cause an environment that will foster abuse.
Please do the necessary to ensure the children in the Vrindavana Gurukula are safe and happy.
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Further considerations and recommendations (written by Sanaka rsi das) I regard the following points raised in Vrajabhumi's report to be of serious concern and require additional attention.
1) That on two occasions the Vice-principal requested Vrajabhumi not to report the incident to the CPO.
2) That the school management decided to discharge Vrajabhumi on the grounds that she reported a child abuse incident to the CPO.
3) That the principal of the Vrindavana Gurukula is absent and that the school is run by a relatively new devotee.
4) That it is the school's intention to reinstate Tejasvini.
5) That the school's current management does not give the matter of corporal punishment the necessary importance.
6) That the school seems to be run on a policy of, "It's either my way or the highway".
1) For the benefit of the children hurt by Tejasvini, she should be encouraged to apologize even if she is not so inclined.
2) That Tejasvini is not allowed to work in any service related to children.
3) That a meeting be held with all the school staff for the purpose of raising awareness on the importance of their service and child protection. They need to be brought up to date with ISKCON's requirements. All the teachers and other staff need to be instructed on how to contact the CPO to report an incident. They also need to be educated on the notions that food depravation and forceful imposition of Krsna Consciousness are not acceptable practices.
4) That the children in the school receive an official apology for the negligence of the CPO, and that they be reassured about ISKCON's intention to respect their rights and that everything will be done to ensure such mistakes are not repeated. The children also need to be instructed on how to report incidents of corporal punishment.
5) That the report of the incident that Radha Kanta gave to Nirguna mataji be compared with the one submitted by Vrajabhumi.
6) That inquires be made to ascertain why, Nirguna Mataji has stated that she, "is not willing to work with the current management of the Vrindavana Gurukula".
7) That inquiries be made to ascertain why Padyavali mataji was discharged from her services as a teacher in the Gurukula. It would be a good idea to ask her opinion of the school management.
8) If it emerges that Padyavali Mataji was discharged without valid reasons, both her and Vrajabhumi should be encouraged to resume their services.
9) That the CPO sources a qualified, experienced and senior devotee to take on the service of principal for the Vrindavana Gurukula.
10) About one year ago, another incident of corporal punishment surfaced in the Vrindavana Gurukula. In light of the recent events it is necessary to make inquiries to ascertain the reliability of the report the school submitted of this incident.
Premchand das: Bhakti Caru Swami clearly states that he officates as GBC. As a GBC it is his responsibility to instruct the devotees what to do and what not do from spiritual point of view.
His duty as GBC would have been to instruct the devotees not to get involved in such kind of business Prabhupada never would have authorized. Prabhupada always warned his followers, not to indulge in risky business but stick to book distribution.
Prabhupada: “Our first business is this book distribution. There is no need of any other business. If this book distribution is managed properly, pushed on with great enthusiasm and determination and at the same time if our men keep spiritually strong, then the whole world will become Krishna conscious.”
Then BCS states, “ISKCON was transitioning from a sankirtan-centred economy to a congregation-centred economy.” This is pretty much in need of explanation since Prabhupada always wanted sankirtan and book distribution as main activity of his movement. Since BCS is officiating as GBC it is his duty to disclose, why ISKCON was changed into a “congregation-centred economy”?
“Sudden diaspora of temple devotees”, as if the devotees had left out of their own. Meanwhile it is well-known known that all over Europe thousands of devotees were forced to leave ISKCON. But BCS carefully avoids to mention why there was a “sudden diaspora” and he never saw any need for action to uncover the reason and why it happened? In sum, his reply gives rise to more questions than are answered.
I am writing to you in your position as a member of the Vrndvan Executive Board [VEB] regarding the present situation with in ISKCON Vrndavan. As you would have been briefed already we have been having quite an extraordinary month.
First with the Temple President Pancagauda Dāsa [Peter Nicoloff] with the problems in the Temple and the FIR that was placed against him and his ensuing FIR and the subsequent banning of the Brahmacaris involved. Along the rumors of extramarital affairs etc make for very bad publicity for our Temple.
Then with the recent well documented assault on a ex girlfriend of Abhirama and the ensuing fiasco. The rumors of property dealing involving Pancagauda and Abhiram…
In both cases FIR’s were submitted by the Temple and MVT authorities respectively which had dozens of names as witnesses which in light of the friendship between Pancagauda and Abhiram, it would be interesting to note how many names are similar in both the FIRs????
If in case you don’t know I have a website http://prabhupadavision.com/ I am preparing a article regarding the present situation in ISKCON Vrndavan for publishing and circulation as I believe that the general devotee needs to be informed about the situation here.
Since its inception the VEB has without fail failed to provide proper leadership for this community and this present scenario is perhaps the worst in regards to bad publicity. Although your personal choice to install Devakinandan as the TP here would be very hard to beat!
Can you please tell me what the VEB is willing to do about this fiasco? For it needs to be resolved fast. The decision to have Pancagauda and Abhiram as the senior men here is perhaps a catastrophic error on the part of the VEB. I strongly advise that action be taken before this situation spirals out of control, if it hasn’t already.
Perhaps you need to come here and deal with this situation personally? This must not be ignored or covered up for these two individuals are nothing but disaster waiting to happen. For their own benefit they must be stopped. Anyway before I publish anything I shall wait till I hear some positive news from the VEB.
Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada
From: Bhima (das) ACBSP (BBT India, Juhu, Mumbai – IN)
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:35 AM
To: Krsnacandra Dasa
Subject: Vrndavan Situation
Dear Krishna Chandra Prabhu
Please accept my obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Some time ago the different services in Vrindavan were divided up amongst the remaining VEB members.
I was specifically given the legal cases to look after by overseeing the legal department. Gopal Krishna Maharaj took charge of the temple and its internal workings as his area of concern.
I share with you the present concern regarding the temple situation. Most likely this will come up in Mumbai during the GBC meeting. Regarding the MVT trustees choice of Abhiram Prabhu being hands on in MVT that had nothing to do with the VEB. I hope this meets you well.
Ys Bhima das
From: Krsnacandra Dasa
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:35 PM
To: Bhima (das) ACBSP (BBT India, Juhu, Mumbai – IN)
Subject: Re: Vrndavan Situation
Dear Bhima Prabhu
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
I have written to Gopal Krsna Goswami…
I am sure that he has ‘his ways’ to make this ‘go away’ so I do not hold my breath for any positive result.
What has our great Vaisnava Society become? We will all have to face Srila Prabhupada or Yamaraja in the end… Srila Prabhupada simply cannot be happy with what his direct disciples have done to his glorious movement… I am ashamed to be seen as a Hare Krsna nowadays.
Prabhu I once told you that I pray to Srimati Radharani that all the VEB members get their just rewards… I no longer pray for that. It is not up to my prayers it is up to Srila Prabhupada and Krsna what happens to you and your team. I do pray that as you get older that you begin to do what is right more and what is wrong less. You may think from your perspective that what you do is right but what you have overseen in Sri Vrndavan Dham cannot be good… You have a very responsible position but for the sake of illegal gain of money all this nonsense is going on in Vrndavan Dham.
I do my duty to warn and caution but it is ultimately up to you the leaders who bear the responsibility and blame and all its subsequent reactions to eventually learn to act responsibly. Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada
PADA: Bhakta dasa says -- we cannot feed poor children prasadam because -- this is the horrible crime of being mayavada. Of course Bhakta is quoting Bhakti Vikas swami, a leader of the homosexual and pedophile guru regime as his authority. Of course Bhakta says that, because he supported the Gaudiya Matha's bogus messiahs. And -- THESE Gaudiya Matha leaders in turn supported the bogus GBC gurus. And thus all of them are implicated in the GBC guru's crime of orchestrating thousands of children being starved, beaten and molested. ESPECIALLY, BHAKTI VIKAS IS IMPLICATED because he has been the molester messiahs club's best bucket boy all along! Yes, supporting starving of children is bona fide, whereas support of feeding children is bogus, we got it already Bhata dasa! Bhakta dasa is another guy who also indirectly says Srila Prabhupada is bogus on the jiva issue, because Bhakta supports the people who say Srila Prabhupada is a fraud on the jiva issue. And they really are Mayavadas, because they say the soul does not originate with Krishna! ys pd
Historical Account of the Greatest Shame of the Present ISKCON-GBC Members BY: SADHUDASA ANUDASA SRIDHAM MAYAPUR, WEST BENGAL (SUN) — A DEMONStration ("Exposition of demoniac traits") that proves the Mayavada contents of the ISKCON-GBC PRESS publication of 1996 entitled 'Our Constitutional Position'.
[PADA: This is a good analysis. While the mass of rank and file devotees of ISKCON were being mass purged, exiled, villified, demonized, if not banned, beaten, and assassinated; And thousands of children were being molested; And the media was reporting one criminal imbroglio after another -- giving ISKCON a bad name, -- fools like Sadhudasa, Gaura Govinda maharaja, and the Gaudiya Matha leaders in general were supporting and promoting this violent bogus guru's regime and they thought: The biggest problem in ISKCON is: we have prove that Srila Prabhupada is a bogus guru because he says we originated in Krishna's lila or sport.
Never mind thousands of small boys are getting mass starved, abused, sometimes beaten and sexually poked in the holy dham, that's really not the main issue, the main issue is (to them), Srila Prabhupada is a fraud. Most of the molesting was going on right on Gaura Govinda's doorstep in Mayapura (he lived close by in Bhubhanesvara). And of course as soon as we said there is a mass molesting problem, Gaura Govinda and his pals said we are bogus ritviks, so they thwarted our protest.
These people never cared for the thousands of devotees who were being victimized by the bogus gurus, and notice, they still do not even mention all the victims, just the jiva issue. And let us assume for one minute that Sadhudasa is correct, Srila Prabhupada is deviating on jiva tattva, and the GBC are following that deviation, so why did he and the Gaudiya Matha leaders go on saying these GBC are gurus if they simultaneously say they are deviating?
So this is amazing, Gaura Govinda maharaja said he was going to publicly challenge the GBC over the jiva issue in Mayapura by getting the local brahmanas (the smartas and sahajiyas and mayavadis) involved, BUT he was not going to form a public protest about child molester acharyas, he simply wanted people to protest the siddhanta of Srila Prabhupada and the Gaudiya Vaishnavas. Of course GGM died mysteriously just after announcing he was going to publicly challenge the GBC, and some think -- he was poisoned.
Anyway, now Giriraja swami is promoting his own book which says Narayana Maharaja is a wonderful rasika guru, so the GBC does not always promote the right jiva issue, NM also criticized Srila Prabhupada's jiva tattva as bogus. To his credit, BV Puri said that Gaura Govinda maharaja and the "origin of the soul is tatastha" folks are all MAYAVADIS, which is what Srila Prabhupada said all along, those who do not understand we originated with Krishna, and they think we have an impersonal origin, they are mayavadis. Anyway, after supporting molesters as gurus now these folks are making a big smoke screen about the jiva issue, no wonder, they have been exposed on supporting their child molester acharya's position. ys pd
Madhudvisa: Is there any way for a Christian to do without the help of a Spiritual Master. To reach the spiritual sky through believing the words of Jesus Christ and trying to follow his teachings?
Srila Prabhupada: I don't follow.
Tamala Krishna: Can a Christian in this age, without a Spiritual Master, but by reading the Bible, and following Jesus"s words, reach the ...
Srila Prabhupada: When you read the Bible, you follow the Spiritual Master. How can you say without. As soon as you read the Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ. That means that you are following the Spiritual Master. So where is the opportunity of being without Spiritual Master.
Madhudvisa: I was referring to a living Spiritual Master.
Spiritual Master is not question of ... Spiritual Master is eternal...so your question is "without Spiritual Master". Without Spiritual Master you cannot be at any stage of your life. You may accept this Spiritual master or that Spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. As you say that "by reading Bible", when you read Bible that means you are following the Spiritual Master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ.
(SP Morning Walk, Seattle, 2/10/68)
PADA: We asked Aryan Ivanković -- "Why is he supporting the GBC's bogus guru system, and its biggest cheer leaders and position paper writers -- like Gaura Govinda maharaja"? And he suddenly seems to have disappeared into thin air ever since? Hello, if you have no answer, just say so, but your handy trick of -- disappearing, hiding, prevaricating, and not giving any answer, this is kinda cheezy don't ya think? OOOP -- see, we almost forgot, as soon as we ask any of Aryan's big GBC gurus any of these same questions, -- they do a similar magic disappearing act, they also run away, hide, don't answer, return mail unanswered, blah blah blah, hey just like you are doing Aryan! Birds of a feather? ys pd
It has occurred to me for quite some time now that at least a good number of the GBC members, along with the errant so-called "gurus" of Iskcon (some holding both titles) have themselves little or no depth of inner contemplation. It must be so, for their flagrant arrogance and disregard of not only so many indisputable truths pointed out to them (about themselves and so many of their past and present actions) shows a manic mentality at the very least, and a demoniac mentality at its worst.
[PADA: Right, this is good news, MORE and MORE people are gradually waking up -- and they are beginning to ask, "Are the GBC's gurus actually demons"? Its a fact, more and more people are asking just this exact question. So it shows that all of our combined "exposes" are finally making a big impact. Meanwhile, more people are saying what we have ALSO been saying, "Why not worship the actual PURE DEVOTEE aka Srila Prabhupada"? In short, our program is working.]
SKD: Those who may be somewhat tender in their willingness to call a "spade a spade" will please forgive me when I say that at least several of the "old guard" are/were demons. Vaishnavas have certain qualities (just in case you are unsure please refer to Srila Prabhupada's books, especially The Nectar of Devotion based on Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu.) Defiling and berating others are not qualities mentioned. Nor are the traits of dishonesty, theft of the spiritual master's property, nor the insulting of godbrothers or other Vaishnavas. Also conspicuous by absence is any mention of Vaishnavas being sexual deviants or having sex with disciples after sannyasa.
[PADA: Good, yes its not just "one" problem or issue, its a combination of all sorts of evil behaviors that keep emanating from these bogus gurus. Yes, its not just the banning, beating and assassinating of dissenters issue; Its also the embezzling issue, the illicit sex with men, women and children issue, the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada issue, and criminality of all sorts issues, that constantly keep flowing from these folks.]
SKD: I have checked again and again, and believe it or not, child abuse and sexual molestation of children is also never mentioned.
[PADA: See! People thought we were nuts when we kept saying "homosexual pedophile messiahs" etc. But look here! We told you all that our emphasizing sexual abuse of children would eventually become a main issue, thanks to God that it is has become the big issue, perhaps this is a core issue.]
SKD: These are most certainly traits of a class of men, but they are the lowest among men, not even fit to be considered civilized, and are most certainly accepted by most people, what to speak of Vaishnavas, to be the worst possible traits of human beings. Certainly they would class one displaying such traits and actions as being demoniac.
[PADA: Yes, this is what we have also said, these deviant behaviors are less than the civilized man, indeed mass child abuse is less than the barbarian man, they are demons. Right on!]
SKD: Do not these GBC men and "gurus" realize how powerful are the disdainful thoughts and words of Vaishnavas? Maybe they have never thought of the reality that by these, they have become cursed.
[PADA: Right, SHASTRA SAYS -- these false gurus are "destined for the most obnoxious regions of the universe," that means, nobody can save them, they are indeed cursed.]
SKD: So many of their God brothers and sisters have become incensed by their words and actions towards them and others that their anger has created thought "forms", called "elementals". Thought bodies, as it were. The suffering that awaits them as a result is unfathomable.
[PADA: Yep, the suffering that awaits them is unfathomable, which is why Srila Prabhupada these false gurus would have been better off to have never heard of the Vedas, they are going down way worse than the ordinary man.]
SKD: Only a complete change of heart, which would naturally lead to remorse and trying to make recompense could possibly stimulate forgiveness towards them by those who have cursed them, either wittingly or unwittingly. From what we have seen and continue to experience that is highly unlikely.
Sometimes it seems as though these people don't truly believe in the law of karma.
[PADA: Right, demons are also atheists, yes they do not believe in the laws of God, because they do not believe there is a God, otherwise why would the entire GBC promote putting the photos of pedophiles on God's altars and make children worship their pedophile messiahs, unless they did not believe in God. And why would they bury a known pedophile in the holy land of Vrndavana as they just did, if they believed in God? They do not believe there is a God, clearly.]
SKD: Either that or they are so narcissistic, they have become so insane that they believe they are above everyone else, and can therefore not possibly do any wrong. That they are transcendental and their advanced natures are misconstrued by we the ignorant. I see no need to mention too many of their names, but they have all been written about disdainfully by devotees here in the Sun and elsewhere, be it Harivilasa, Tamal, Bhavananda, Ravindra Svarup, etc, etc. They represent arrogance to such a degree that it is far beyond simply being unconscionable.
One must not be so foolish as to think that because you wear neckbeads that you shall not be severely punished for sinful actions after death. That somehow they are all-protective and make us impervious, no matter what kind of actions we commit. Nor should one misconstrue the Bhagavad-gita's famous verse of "what becomes of the unsuccessful yogi" to mean that no matter what you have done in life, you shall be excused and simply whisked off to your next birth in a wealthy mercantile family, the family of a brahmin or Vaishnava. That is for the sincere who fall down, not for those who commit heinous actions and crimes in the name of spiritual life.
Just consider this. How many Vaishnavas have had extremely harsh and damning thoughts about or words describing these men and their crimes? Do they not shudder? Whether they do or not, there is a very big surprise awaiting them at the time of death. Such is the indefatigable law of karma.
PADA: Aryan has no evidence that Srila Prabhupada appointed a successor "in private meetings" like Gaura Govinda. Srila Prabhupada would never have appointed a successor in private meetings, knowing this would create chaos for ISKCON because no one would believe this person had been appointed. Prabhupada always made letters and announcements, so he would have made a letter to all temples saying he had appointed a successor. As for GGM himself, he never mentioned that he had been appointed as the succesor in 1978, rather he supported the 11 bogus successors, why did he not challenge them in 1978 saying he had been appointed, not them? GGM was only later on voted in as guru at the recoronation of a known homosexual, why does Aryan think a person is a guru when he is voted in when child molester acharyas are being re-coronated? Worse, Aryan still has not told us who is the lving guru now, he does not have any, he cites Srila Bhaktivinode and GGM, both of them are departed, he has never cited one word from any living person -- except himself, so Aryan clearly thinks he is the living guru and we have to accept him? He has never told us any other living person other than himself, he thinks he is our new live guru. ys pd
PADA: We were told that Gopal Krishna swami threatened the other bogus ISKCON GBC gurus that he was going to the NEWS media in India, and he was going to say to the newspapers that ISKCON was a "Western guru take-over" since there was ONLY "white bodied gurus," but there were no "Indian bodied gurus." Anyway, this was the beginning of their "guru by votes" system, which was recommended by SRIDHARA MAHARAJA, that the GBC must "vote in more gurus every year at Mayapura," a bogus process which they are still doing now. ys pd
We are pleased to inform you the following weekend program schedule at our Krishna Balarama Mandir, 1235 Reamwood Ave, Sunnyvale. We welcome you with family and friends to participate in the programs.
11:15am - Sri Vishnu Sahasranama Stotram recitation
11:45am - Special song performance dedicated to Srinivasa Govinda*
12noon - Discourse
12:30pm - Japa yajna
12:45pm - Arati, Narasimha Prayers
1:15pm - Lunch prasadam
11:15am - Hare Krishna kirtans and Vaishnava bhajans
11:45am - Special song/dance/instrument performance by Sunday school kid(s)*
12 noon - Discourse on Srimad Bhagavad Gita
12:30pm - Japa yajna
12:45pm - Arati, Narasimha Prayers
1:15pm - Lunch prasadam
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Nanda Kishore Das
Sri Krishna Balarama Mandir,
India Heritage Foundation,
1235 Reamwood Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94089 http://www.ihf-usa.org http://www.facebook.com/kbmandir
PADA: Why are we going public with our expose of the bogus gurus? Public publicity is the only option, the devotees who tried to resolve this internally, like Taru, were murdered and buried in the hills of New Vrndavana, and 23 other bodies were found there, who knows how those bodies got there. Chatur Bahu was going to meet with the GBC to challenge them, and his body was found with throat slashed etc. So I instead went to the police, media and used open expose policy, and it was the police who saved me when three of their giant muscle goondas were chasing me with baseball bats. The police also went to the houses of people who sent me death threats, the police found a note in the pocket of Sulochana's murderer saying they were going to get me next, in short, if you are facing multi-millionaire bogus gurus and their tens of thousands of followers, you better not forget that the police are also Krishna and you'd better use the police, courts, media, or else, you won't be alive to tell the story, its that simple. I am alive because of going outside to protest, inside protesters, well some of them are dead. You have to be practical, or you may not survive. ys pd