PADA: Dear Rocana, Sorry, but you do not EVER allow us to post anything on your "Sampradaya Sun" web site. Instead, you WRITE your own attacks upon us, and then "allow" all kinds of other people to write and promote more "attacking of the worship of Srila Prabhupada" as "messianic madness," as you did just now. This is the none too subtle "theme" of your site, you are constantly bashing the whole idea that people should worship Srila Prabhupada. You are promoting the idea that only foolish people accept Srila Prabhupada as their guru / messiah, because what they really need to do is to accept the current GBC guru "parampara."
You started off recently by saying our worship of Srila Prabhupada idea is the terrible Darth Vader demoniac "death star" program, that has to be destroyed and exploded, ooops, and that is exactly what the GBC's bogus gurus say. Then you allowed the person below to say essentially the same thing, we Prabhupadanugas are bogus and need to be stopped and checked for making Srila Prabhupada an "artificial messiah" because (quoting from your Sampradaya Sun site):
"The IRM has been resentful to accept the present parampara system."
PD: OK, exactly what the GBC gurus say. The GBC is the current and present GURU parampara. You are repeating what the GBC gurus say, and / or you are allowing others to repeat what the GBC gurus say. You do NOT allow us to respond.
"The IRM followers claim that we cannot possibly risk more apostasy of ISKCON leaders and further tarnish ISKCON's reputation."
PD: OK exposing the bogus gurus tarnishes ISKCON, thats what Tamal says. Ravindra Swarupa says the worship of Srila Prabhupada is "apostacy." Is he the ghost writer of your site?
"From this point of view, the IRM may have some moral grounds for refusing the present parampara."
PD: OK, YOUR SITE IS SAYING ISKCON's bogus gurus are the present parampara, that is what the entire bogus guru sabha says.
"Unfortunately the IRM has taken the wrong turn by raising messianic claims and taking a fanatical stand towards all present leaders of ISKCON, regular ISKCON devotees and ISKCON wellwishers."
PD: Worship of Srila Prabhupada is messianic madness, yes -- why worship the acharya when you can worship our GBC illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs instead?
"Instead of assessing deviations in ISKCON on the level of practice, lack of honesty, lack of evangelic spirit etc., the IRM focuses on Srila Prabhupada as a messianic figure, thus deviating from Vaishnava siddhanta in a most blatant manner."
PD: Sorry, the worshippers of the bona fide acharya Srila Prabhupada DO think that achayras are messiahs. OK, you "allowed" a post that says the current leaders of ISKCON are the current parampara (messiahs), just after you said we Prabhupadanugas are the messianic fools / dangerous / deviation / Darth Vader / death star folks, your site says we are BLATANTLY DEVIATING FROM VAISHNAVA SIDDHANTA because we are worshipping Prabhupada, because we refuse to worship the current parampara of the GBC, ok the illicit sex with men, women and children parampara.
It thus seems like a trend and tendency on the Sun is, you CREATE your own posts, or allow other's posts that say our worship of Srila Prabhupada idea is bogus. You cannot say others alone do that since you write such posts yourself, and you allow others to post that idea and moreover your site says the current i.e. peodphile messiahs club is the current parampara. Therefore direct or de facto, you are supporting the GBC gurus and their bogus ideas.
And you do not allow us to defend ourselves in your kangaroo court. In any case, this is not merely my opinion, many other Prabhupadanugas agree, you are consistently attacking us Prabhupadanugas with your own writing, and with writings of those you "allow" as your writers, and thus: -- consistently posting your own and / or writings of various attackers of us Prabhupadanugas, while consistenly not allowing us to reply. So the upshot is, you are defending the worship of the "current parampara" bogus GBC, while "allowing" attacks on us, and writing attacks on us yourself, and not allowing us into your kangaroo court, thus the trend and tendency is, you are against the worship of Srila Prabhupada as some messianic foolishness, and you are allowing / posting yourself / criticism of those of us who worship the messiah Srila Prabhupada.
We are not totally stupid here. We get what you are doing. Anyway you answered my question, you are only going to "allow" posts of people who say worship of Srila Prabhupada is messianic madness, you will write posts saying worship of Srila Prabhupada is the posthumous dead guy mortuary idea, you are going to continue attacking the worship of the pure devotee as a deviation, while propping up direct or de facto the worship of the pedophile messiahs club. We got it already. ys pd
You started off recently by saying our worship of Srila Prabhupada idea is the terrible Darth Vader demoniac "death star" program, that has to be destroyed and exploded, ooops, and that is exactly what the GBC's bogus gurus say. Then you allowed the person below to say essentially the same thing, we Prabhupadanugas are bogus and need to be stopped and checked for making Srila Prabhupada an "artificial messiah" because (quoting from your Sampradaya Sun site):
"The IRM has been resentful to accept the present parampara system."
PD: OK, exactly what the GBC gurus say. The GBC is the current and present GURU parampara. You are repeating what the GBC gurus say, and / or you are allowing others to repeat what the GBC gurus say. You do NOT allow us to respond.
"The IRM followers claim that we cannot possibly risk more apostasy of ISKCON leaders and further tarnish ISKCON's reputation."
PD: OK exposing the bogus gurus tarnishes ISKCON, thats what Tamal says. Ravindra Swarupa says the worship of Srila Prabhupada is "apostacy." Is he the ghost writer of your site?
"From this point of view, the IRM may have some moral grounds for refusing the present parampara."
PD: OK, YOUR SITE IS SAYING ISKCON's bogus gurus are the present parampara, that is what the entire bogus guru sabha says.
"Unfortunately the IRM has taken the wrong turn by raising messianic claims and taking a fanatical stand towards all present leaders of ISKCON, regular ISKCON devotees and ISKCON wellwishers."
PD: Worship of Srila Prabhupada is messianic madness, yes -- why worship the acharya when you can worship our GBC illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs instead?
"Instead of assessing deviations in ISKCON on the level of practice, lack of honesty, lack of evangelic spirit etc., the IRM focuses on Srila Prabhupada as a messianic figure, thus deviating from Vaishnava siddhanta in a most blatant manner."
PD: Sorry, the worshippers of the bona fide acharya Srila Prabhupada DO think that achayras are messiahs. OK, you "allowed" a post that says the current leaders of ISKCON are the current parampara (messiahs), just after you said we Prabhupadanugas are the messianic fools / dangerous / deviation / Darth Vader / death star folks, your site says we are BLATANTLY DEVIATING FROM VAISHNAVA SIDDHANTA because we are worshipping Prabhupada, because we refuse to worship the current parampara of the GBC, ok the illicit sex with men, women and children parampara.
It thus seems like a trend and tendency on the Sun is, you CREATE your own posts, or allow other's posts that say our worship of Srila Prabhupada idea is bogus. You cannot say others alone do that since you write such posts yourself, and you allow others to post that idea and moreover your site says the current i.e. peodphile messiahs club is the current parampara. Therefore direct or de facto, you are supporting the GBC gurus and their bogus ideas.
And you do not allow us to defend ourselves in your kangaroo court. In any case, this is not merely my opinion, many other Prabhupadanugas agree, you are consistently attacking us Prabhupadanugas with your own writing, and with writings of those you "allow" as your writers, and thus: -- consistently posting your own and / or writings of various attackers of us Prabhupadanugas, while consistenly not allowing us to reply. So the upshot is, you are defending the worship of the "current parampara" bogus GBC, while "allowing" attacks on us, and writing attacks on us yourself, and not allowing us into your kangaroo court, thus the trend and tendency is, you are against the worship of Srila Prabhupada as some messianic foolishness, and you are allowing / posting yourself / criticism of those of us who worship the messiah Srila Prabhupada.
We are not totally stupid here. We get what you are doing. Anyway you answered my question, you are only going to "allow" posts of people who say worship of Srila Prabhupada is messianic madness, you will write posts saying worship of Srila Prabhupada is the posthumous dead guy mortuary idea, you are going to continue attacking the worship of the pure devotee as a deviation, while propping up direct or de facto the worship of the pedophile messiahs club. We got it already. ys pd
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