Monday, July 25, 2016

Bhakti Vikas swami's Clone and "Foolish Gurus"

BVKS follower tells us to both follow and reject their guru parampara?

Thanks prabhu, 

Correct me if I am wrong. You are apparently saying: 

1) Bhakti Vikas swami is authorized to toss out Srila Prabhupada's direct instructions -- that we neophytes cannot act as diksha gurus and take karma, never mind this is causing -- sickness, falldown, suffering, misery and even death for his own God brothers, never mind all the bad publicity -- due to those who are taking this karma without authority. Never mind BVKS makes it look like Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered his neophytes to act as diksha gurus who can absorb sins like Jesus, which is a de facto attack on Srila Prabhupada because he never authorized this process.

OK so Bhakti vikas swami is authorized to encourage ruining the lives of these devotees, and ruin ISKCON in the process since this will impact the society, due to some mysterious licence he got from -- where? This is really a kindergarten level instruction, its part of the basics, and BVKS thinks its not important? Neophytes cannot take karma, its ABC instruction, and he thinks its not even worth mentioning, much less following. 

Bhakti Vikas swami is thus authorized to create all these artificial problems -- because he knows better than Srila Prabhupada? You have failed to explain how you folks are authorized to toss out the orders of the acharya? You claim to be the real followers of Prabhupada, but the first thing you are doing is to say his orders have no meaning? All that, despite all the darkness you folks created by ignoring these types of orders.

Why is BVKS tossing out the direct orders of the acharya? Of course BVKS is also saying he is "advising" the other gurus with his book etc. Why does BVKS think Krishna's successor gurus are his students, who need his advising, correction, rectification, monitoring, reform, suspension etc.? Where is this process discussed by Srila Prabhupada? And who placed BVKS in charge of the other acharyas?

2) You say we need to listen to BVKS and read his site, and his site supports these GBC's "acharyas" because he advertises himself as a member of their group, and he advertises their documents on his site.  

3) Yet, the same GBC's documents he advertises on his site -- he claims are written by fools, because the same GBC's authors are banning his books. Why is BVKS advertising documents that are written by people he claims are fools? As one devotee commented, this is like a vegetarian restaurant advertising beef stew. 

4) And since the authors of these GBC's documents he advertises are also gurus and acharyas, therefore, BVKS is saying his co-gurus and acharyas are fools. BVKS thus says yes, they are acharyas and yes, they are also fools for rejecting my book. Why does BVKS always say his acharyas are fools, and thus we should simultaneously follow them because they are acharyas and -- reject them -- since they are fools? And how can anyone simultaneously follow and reject them? And doesn't Srila Prabhupada say the asuras will give contrary orders?

5) Worse! A number of BVKS folks have been writing publicly how the GBC's gurus are fools, illicit sex gurus, new age compromisers, ping pong swamis etc., so he is training his own people to believe that his own guru parampara is comprised of fools. Which previous acharyas preached that their own guru parampara is comprised of fools? 

OK this begs the question:

Why is BVKS always saying acharyas are fools? This is an attack on the entire Vedic process. 

6) Srila Prabhupada says anyone who says guru are deviants is -- a resident of hell. What kind of guru parampara says, read these documents, because they are written by our gurus, and thus they are written by fools? I find it amazing that BVKS is saying that we need to listen to his people and accept them as our gurus, and at the same time, reject them since they are fools for rejecting his book? 

Anyway, we are making good progress here, you are saying the GBC are fools for rejecting BVKS' advise. That means BVKS program is saying, their acharyas are fools. Except, he also says they are bona fide and we need to listen to them. Srila Prabhupada says all fools should be rejected, he never said that we need to accept any number of fools as our acharyas, and in fact he says anyone who does that is going to the lower planets. To sum then, you BVKS guys are admitting you are promoting fools as your gurus and acharyas. We wholeheartedly agree. Except, its forbidden to promote fools as acharyas, and anyone who does that goes to the lower planets.

ys pd

Bhakti Vikas swami's idea that acharyas need advise and correcting, and being removed for illicit sex etc. is itself an offense ...

"It is also an offense to consider an empowered Vaiṣṇava an object of disciplinary action. It is offensive to try to give him advice or to correct him. One can distinguish between a neophyte Vaiṣṇava and an advanced Vaiṣṇava by their activities. The advanced Vaiṣṇava is always situated as the spiritual master, and the neophyte is always considered his disciple. The spiritual master must not be subjected to the advice of a disciple, nor should a spiritual master be obliged to take instructions from those who are not his disciples. This is the sum and substance of Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī’s advice in the sixth verse."
The Nectar of Instruction : Texts 6 : 

1 comment:

  1. BVKS is criticizing his other co-GBC gurus in his own parampara? OK. That means you agree with me. That is exactly my point, he thinks his own acharyas in his own parampara are relative souls who should be attacked in public for deviations. Not only does he support criticizing his own parampara and it acharyas in public, he has guys like Hanuman making videos to attack his other co-acharyas in public. Not only that, he is criticizing his own acharyas on his own web site. Its one of the ten offenses to the holy name to criticize the guru, and BVKS is criticizing his own acharyas and his own parampara every day, and these are the same acharyas who voted him in as their acharya. Not only that, he was voted in when the GBC reinstated sex with taxi drivers Bhavananda. I may be driving a taxi at one time and "delivering pizzas," but so was Jayananda? Your BVKS program promotes worship of people who are having sex with taxi drivers. And the reason I have a karmi job is that the BVKS program kicks us out because we do not worship his illicit sex acharyas. And you are furthermore right, his parampara was sued for $400,000,000 for starving their own school children, and now his party is suing the Bangalore Akshaya Patra people who are feeding 1.6 million children in India daily, saying they will sue them for the next 100 years. Why is BVKS always stopping children from eating? And he is supporting starving children?

    BVKS parampara spokesman Jayadvaita swami says that their acharyas are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, and that is their public statement. Why does BVKS not know that acharyas are not engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children? Oh, I forgot, he is voted in by the people who are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children as their handmaiden servant guru, and he is voted in with sex with his taxi drivers acharyas. Why is he saying acharyas are deviants, every day? Why does he not agree with us, these people were never acharyas and they had no authority to vote him is as their co-member? ys pd


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