Sunday, December 8, 2019

Jayapataka Institutes Bangalore Peace Initiative



By: Yudhistir Govinda Das Posted on December 7, 2019

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

Dandavat pranams. Jaya Srila Prabhupada.

Please find below a report on yesterday’s meeting that was held in ISKCON, East of Kailash, New Delhi with Madhu Pandit Prabhu and his team .

Your servant,
Yudhistir Govinda Das

—–
Bhakti Vaibhava Maharaja (GBC Chairman), Gopal Krishna Maharaja, Bhakti Charu Maharaja, Anuttama dasa and Muralishyam dasa met with Madhu Pandit dasa, Stoka Krishna Maharaja, Chanchalapati dasa and Jai Chaitanya dasa yesterday at the ISKCON Temple in East of Kailash, New Delhi.

The meeting was a result of a cordial meeting that Jayapataka Maharaja and Madhu Pandit dasa had in Bangalore in October of this year. After the meeting, Jayapataka Swami reported the cordial nature of his interactions to the GBC body, and suggested that the GBC re-open the dialogue process with Madhu Pandit dasa and his team.

A committee, headed by the GBC Chairman Bhakti Vaibhava Swami, was formed during the Mid-year GBC meeting to discuss the possibilities of such a meeting. Maharaja reached out to the devotees in Bangalore and a meeting was set for December 6th.

In the meeting there was a discussion on the difference between principles and details. Reference was made to Srila Prabhupada’s discussion on this topic at the beginning of Chapter 6 of the Nectar of Devotion. There was also an extensive discussion on where the two parties agree philosophically and/or in practice, as well as where the differences are clear.

The mood in the meeting was conducive to dialogue. The discussions were frank. All agreed that it is a very good idea to keep the communications line open and so a follow up meeting was scheduled.

While there were unfounded speculation about the purpose and outcome of this meeting, this report should serve as a factual and authentic source of what transpired in yesterday’s meeting.

*Sd/-

Participants of the meeting


[PADA: Perhaps Jayapataka is calling for a "cordial resolution" because his GBC program of suing Bangalore -- after allegedly spending $20,000,000 to sue Bangalore in the Delhi Supreme Court -- has floundered. Worse, some of the big Jayapataka leaders were found to be in criminal contempt of court, presenting false documents etc. in the Bangalore lower court. So its not even looking good for the JPS court case. 

And when the Jayapataka / GBC followers said they would spend $100,000,000 (yep one hundred million) to continue suing Bangalore, they may have suddenly realized, they don't have a spare one hundred million bucks $$$ laying around to sue Madhu Pandit all the more. 

It is amazing to us -- that when so many senior ISKCON devotees are in ill health, some living in bad areas barely able to pay their rent, some living in old cars, some dying under a tree, and in sum -- a number dying from fatal ailments with no health care coverage etc. --- that is when the Jayapataka folks think we should spend $100 million on karmi lawyers. All this after the JPS program was already sued for $400,000,000 for their child negligence and abuse program in Dallas courts. We should spend zero cents on helping the senior ISKCON citizens?

A Jayapataka person wrote to complain to me that due to PADA's helping the child abuse case, helping with documents for things like the Bangalore case, and helping other things like police raids etc., "PADA has cost the ISKCON GBC over $100,000,000." OK well I am not in charge of their spending, if they want to promote the worship of homosexual pedophiles as their messiahs and create a huge pedophile infrastructure that has to be sued for $400,000,000, that is not in our control? They have to keep their program clean and then it won't be sued, raided by police SWAT teams etc. in the first place. That is not our fault.

Of course its not only the GBC folks, but as soon as Krishna Kirtan / Janardan/ Pancali / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur program finds out that their favorite program of beating little children black and blue with bamboo sticks, sometimes breaking their bones, and having them starved and sexually attacked and molested etc. -- is being checked and corralled in, they all start crying like a little baby that their favorite child beating program is being curtailed. 

Oh boo hoo, we cannot have children beaten to a pulp anymore. 

What is this world coming to when children are no longer worshiping pedophiles as their messiahs? I have to cry now, gimmee a kleenex already! Its amazing to us how much this pedophile messiah's infrastructure program has enjoyed so much sympathy, which of course explains how it was able to sprout and grow in the first place. Sulochan called these people "the boot lickers of the butt busters."

Yep. Even me and Sulochan used to joke, we have to worship the Jayapataka molester messiah's club's anal sex, oral sex, homosex, heterosex, pedophile sex, porno sex and maybe sex with donkeys "guru chain from heaven" program, because unless we worship this program, we are "not following the ancient tradition of India's culture and guru parampara." OK lets not forget, the promoters of debauchees as messiahs and acharyas is maybe .0000001 percent of the population, its never going to fly with the other 999999.9999999 percent of human society. Of course some idiots say, no one accepts PADA!

OK, but only no one in the .0000001 percent?

And debauchee acharyas is the tradition -- of what? So we hope that official ISKCON starts to realize that promoting illicit sex with men, women and children as the "guru successors to God" is a failing proposal. Its never going to be accepted on a wide scale basis in human society.

Human beings are smart enough to know that worship of a chain of debauchees is not bona fide, and the GBC is insulting everyone's intelligence by saying they have to worship their illicit sex with men, women and children guru program in order to attain God. 

Almost everyone knows that worship of an illicit sex with men, women and children guru programs is -- the path to hell. Its a given. So we hope the GBC starts to gradually realize that, and they will make peace with those of us who are not desiring to worship debauchees as Krishna's successors. 

At least some of us will never do that now and for all eternity, its a losing proposal and that is why ISKCON is falling apart, its trying to force a corrupt principle that the supersoul is telling everyone to avoid, which is why their temples are empty shells. Anyway, this is good, Jayapataka is already suffering from taking sins and perhaps he knows by now he is heading straight to the most obnoxious regions for his promoting his pedophile pals as acharyas, and he wants to do something useful to compensate at least a little bit for his massive sin load, before he is handed off to the hounds of hell. ys pd]



======================

On Sunday, 1 December 2019, 16:27:24 GMT, Antardwip das <antardwip.mtv@gmail.com> wrote to Mahesh raja:

Yes prabhu, there is no precedent (for worship of the pure devotee via ritviks). Thank you for agreeing. Wow. If Srila Prabhupada intended to establish such an off-limits idea, he would certainly have tackled it directly in one of his many books. Of all your many, many quotes etc, there is no quote stating that when Srila Prabhupada has passed away, people can take him as their Spiritual master. 


Srila Prabhupada was a straight speaker - calling out rascals, stating we never landed on the moon etc. So in what would be the most radical departure ever from the traditional vedic practice of approaching a Spiritual Master and being accepted by him, if it were something he wanted, he would have been very clear about it, and not have devotees like your good self working over-time to scrape together implications and inferences from his writings.

You impress me by accepting there is no precedent for taking initiation from a deceased Spiritual Master in the vedas. Thank you, Hare Krishna
ys Antardwip das

[PADA: Yep, we hear this all the time. We cannot worship a "post mortem" person like Jesus or Srila Prabhupada, we have to worship the "living ISKCON GBC's gurus and messiahs" who have created an anal sex, oral sex, homosex, heterosex, pedophile sex, porno sex and maybe sex with donkeys "guru chain from heaven" program. And then -- they are subsequently worshiping if not burying their sexual predators, homosexuals, pedophiles and porno swamis parampara members in "samadhis" in the holy dham of Vrndavana or Mayapura.

And this is what they tell us is "the tradition." The tradition of what? Sorry, there is no "tradition" of worship of debauchees as acharyas, this is a concoction. And moreover the only way this concocted bogus ISKCON GBC guru chain survives is by banning, beating, suing and killing dissenters, which has given ISKCON a horrible public reputation as a violent sexual predator worshiping false guru cult. ys pd]


Repent now before its too late


PS: We know who Jayapataka's real guru is.


Maharaja!
Did no one tell you, neophytes cannot
absorb sins, or they will suffer?

3 comments:

  1. GSD: Sooner or later, ISKCON GBC will have to get Madhu pandit prabhu's group in it’s fold. It will be really stupid on GBC's part to let Bangalore group carry on in an independent way. MPD is a much bigger name today in Indian public n govt eyes then all ISKCON GBC n gurus combined. MPD commands more respect n credibility, n in next 20 to 30 yrs MPD group will become bigger then current ISKCON group at least in India. So any brainy person will, for the larger interest of ISKCON, want MPD in ISKCON even if some compromises have to be made.

    [PADA: Yes, we know one GBC guru who told our friends he cannot come to the USA "because of the angry hordes that want to lynch him." Hah hah, they know their program is losing credibility and if they can latch onto to Bangalore at least they might save some credibility. Yep, the GBC circle of influence is dwindling every day, so they need to change or keep going down. All they are doing now is making more and more devotees angry, and as we know, making devotees unhappy is a clear path to the worst of hells. The Isopanisad says these false gurus go to a worse destination than the ordinary man, and it would be better if they never even heard of the Vedas. Very sinful people. ys pd]

    ReplyDelete
  2. Yes prabhu, it is amazing. As soon as I said drug addicts, vodka drinkers, porno swamis, sexual predators, debauchees etc. are not Krishna's guru successors and acharyas, then Jayapataka GBC's folks / Sridhara Maharaja's folks / Narayana Maharaja's folks / Tripurari swami's folks et al. all complained in unison, who cares, you are not chanting your rounds.

    Ok so only the people who are NOT chanting their rounds know that deviants are not God's guru successors? That is the worst bad avert for chanting anywhere. Only the people who ARE chanting their rounds are worshiping illicit sex predators, drug addicts and vodka drinking deviants as their messiahs, while the people who do NOT chant their rounds worship pure devotees like Jesus and Prabhupada.

    This is an insult to the chanting, only the bona fide chanters worship sexual predators as their acharyas, the non-chanters worship pure devotees. What is this? Hee hee! Even the HKC Jaipur thug Prahlad said that, the reason they are supporting women and children beater programs is -- they are chanting their rounds, and PADA opposes women and children beater programs because he is not chanting his rounds.

    Wow! Only the people who chant their rounds are licking the boots of women and children beating messiah's projects? So they are basically saying -- chanting God's name will turn you into a molester messiah loving brain dead zombie. That means they are trying to turn people away from chanting God's name. You got it! This is a demoniac conspiracy to overturn the authority of guru and God, I agree. And! Yes, Gopal Krishna swami helped bury homosexual pedophile Kirtanananda in a samadhi. Right! ys pd

    ReplyDelete
  3. Dear PADA: Wrong headline. It should say, "JPS steps down since India's population supports Madhu Pandit's program."

    PADA: Yes, someone sent me a letter complaining that Basu Ghosha has the backing of all the big sampradayas in India, and they support the GBC's guru program. Really? So I asked back, "Can you prove that? Is there any documented evidence that the bona fide sampradayas of India support the GBC's worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as Krishna's acharya successors"?

    Where is the written statement from these sampradayas that they support this, and how come we never see it? OK so I am not expecting a reply. Its almost always the same thing, a big noisy kerfluffle and then -- silence, the sound of crickets, no reply when we ask for proof. Yes, that is something we should ask for, where is there any documented evidence these sampradayas support that little children have to worship the GBC's debauchee's guru lineages in order to attain Krishna? I do not think such a document exists? Its a bluff. ys pd

    ReplyDelete

Note: Only a member of this blog may post a comment.