[PADA: This is really a muddled answer to the question, "How should we view Radhanath swami in light of the fact that a number of ex-New Vrndavana folks claim he was helping with various crimes at New Vrndavana, including the murder of Sulochan"?
Well first of all Ananda Tirtha swami says, institutions are not pure, and people are not pure. Great. So why is Radhanath being promoted as pure, indeed as a pure devotee guru, by the institution? And if this is a mistaken idea, that Radhanath is pure, then why should the institution allow that mistake to continue?
Why should little children be taught that a person is pure, when kids have no gravity of maturity to discriminate what is pure and what is not, because they are little kids. So we should cheat little children knowingly, that iron is gold? And is that not what Bhakti Vikas Swami just now admits, they all knew Kirtanananda was not pure ALL ALONG, they just cheated everyone on the planet by promoting him as pure anyway. And they cheated the children of the society to accept false pure devotees, which has mass alienated these children now that they are adults. So lets start another wave of mass alienation, as the first and second alienated waves are crashing and burning?
And so they cheated many thousands of little children, many of whom grew up to hate the institution, and in a number of cases, hate Krishna. And some committed suicide, being so badly burnt by this cheating. Why would we want to continue doing that, knowing the odious results? Some of these ex-kids now eat meat around here and they hate anything to do with the Krishna religion. Why would people like Bhakti Vikas swami and others want that process to continue onwards, because he still says that these bogus GBC people are gurus? He wants to victimize a whole new generation of kids, for what good reason?
He wants more victims of his process -- to end up eating hamburgers?
Why would we want to fool little kids into thinking someone is pure, when we as adults know -- this person is not pure. And is this not the cause of mass alienation of the ISKCON youth, mass alienation of most of the senior Prabhupada devotees, and the mass alienation of the public, because they were being cheated into accepting false pure devotees -- and so they ended up rejecting the ISKCON society, at least most of them, maybe almost all of them, rejected the whole thing and wholesale. So lets go forward doing more of same, alienating a whole new wave of victims. We don't have enough thousands of fried victims yet, we need to "wait" until there are thousands more?
And if the evidence points to Radhanath being the right hand man in Kirtanananda's criminal empire, why should the institution promote such a person as their newly minted messiah? OH, he says we should not judge things like that -- right away. Wait instead!
Yep, we were told that all along, we should wait until there is more banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits, suicides, alienation and murders? What are we "waiting for" exactly? This has been the policy all along, allow all these deviations to go on and "wait"?
And how is that working out for the victims? Not so good is it? OK its working out good for the bogus gurus and their crew of exploiters, crooks, sexual predators, molesters, criminals, deviants, embezzlers and bogus guru's program's hand maidens. Not working out so good for the rest of the planet?
So when people are being told by an institution that iron is gold, we should wait and not protest, and then later on, when the victims find out their iron is useless, and they then hate the whole institution, that is fine, go find another set of suckers who will buy your iron thinking its gold? That is the solution to all this, continue the cheating and "wait" -- for the next set of victims to be alienated. That is the path forward?
Yep, we don't have enough alienated victims who -- perhaps hate the religion, who are eating hamburgers, and a number of whom -- committed suicide. We need to make more victims and increase this process? Why is this always the way forward "wait -- for more people to become victims." That is not fixing things is it?
ys pd
Yes JD, you are right. This poor Ananda Tirtha fellow is left holding the GBC's crime bag to "explain away" how the Lord's "eternal guru successors and Jesus-like acharyas" are: (A) residents of Vaikuntha and therefore; (B) Acharyas are then orchestrating criminal banning, beating, molesting; $400,000,000 child molesting lawsuits; Police SWAT raids; Burying porno swamis and pedophiles in samadhis; Changing the books; Having the devotees in New Vrndavana all dress in monk robes and place there a deity of Jesus; Have the minor age girls be sent around the country being used as drug mules because "minors won't be sent to jail," and perhaps also orchestrating contrived MURDERS ad infinitum.
ReplyDeleteAnd these are the activities of the "pure residents of Vaikuntha acharyas"????
Yes, the poor guy is totally embarrassed to have to explain all this, and so his words are thus unsure and not clear. And no wonder, he is contradicting himself to say acharyas are both pure and simultaneously orchestrators of crimes -- including murders.
And so yes, he is clearly stumbling along, really not able to keep his thoughts together and organized, because he knows this is a giant scam, to say acharyas are both pure and also deviant odious mundane people who orchestrate evil criminal programs. So he is sort or rambling along with a bunch of word jugglery.
That is why shastra says: We have to have people worship a pure devotee as their acharya, because people who worship orchestrators of crimes as their acharya simply create a criminal enterprise because, we become what we worship. Notice also that he wants us to advertise Radhanath as a pure devotee on the front door of the temple, but admit that this is an orchestrator of crimes in the back room of the temple, so we can fool the poor people who visit the temple that they and their children are worshiping a pure devotee. Yes, this is cheating, and he knows that, hence his stumbling along. Agreed. ys pd
Thanks M Dasi. Yes that is what he is saying, we cannot listen to people, institutions, (GBC) acharyas, (GBC) Krishna's successors et al. and all the rest of it, as are all in the same category, they are defective. We cannot rely on listening to them, they are all faulty. The only person not faulty? People like Bhakti Vikas swami, Ananda Tirtha swami, and other superior advisors to the acharyas.
ReplyDeleteYes, they are de facto saying (their GBC) acharyas are defective, so we need to listen to them instead. Basu Ghosh just said the same basic thing, the GBC acharyas are apa-siddhanta, lucky for you he is here to give us real siddhanta, and the real siddhanta is --- acharyas are apa-siddhanta. Hee hee! Yes, this is the mad elephant offense, to say acharyas are defective ordinary men, and these people are making that offense left, right and center 24/7. You got it. ys pd