The Param-guru BY: RUPANUGA DAS
Rupanuga dasa: The reasonable conclusion to all this is straightforward when based upon Srila Prabhupada’s declared intentions: he wished to return to his duties as initiating spiritual master as soon as he could, which means that the word “henceforward” was equivalent to “for the foreseeable future” and “until further notice.” Therefore, there is no evidence that Srila Prabhupada intended to introduce the July 9th letter as a permanent procedure for continuing his disciplic succession. That parampara procedure had already been explained in his books. Hare Krsna, Rupanuga dasa.
Rupanuga dasa: The reasonable conclusion to all this is straightforward when based upon Srila Prabhupada’s declared intentions: he wished to return to his duties as initiating spiritual master as soon as he could, which means that the word “henceforward” was equivalent to “for the foreseeable future” and “until further notice.” Therefore, there is no evidence that Srila Prabhupada intended to introduce the July 9th letter as a permanent procedure for continuing his disciplic succession. That parampara procedure had already been explained in his books. Hare Krsna, Rupanuga dasa.
[PADA: Right, Rupanuga supports the GBC and their debauchery parampara idea. Worse, he claims that his bogus guru program is "found in the books"! What books? He has never read the books, his debauchee acharyas program is not found in the books. Notice now that Rupanuga says Srila Prabhupada is the "param" (grandfather) guru, and the "father" gurus are -- the molester messiahs program? Where do the books say that the molester messiahs program will be the "father" guru in vaishnavisim? Notice Rupanuga never cites the books when he makes these bogus claims.]
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RD: Jan 20, 2012 — JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, USA (SUN) — Those sincere souls who have been submitting for decades to disciples of Srila Prabhupada as spiritual masters, only to be disappointed, need not leave the proven path of Bhakti as revealed by Srila Prabhupada (who is not at all at fault).
RD: The disappointed disciples of our Godbrothers remain on duty to give Srila Prabhupada's mercy to the suffering masses of conditioned souls on this planet, which is known as Martyaloka or the planet of death. Krsna consciousness is a matter of life and death for everyone. Srila Prabhupada wanted millions, he said "a hundred million" devotees.
[PADA: OK, except as soon as someone says we should take shelter of Srila Prabhupada the one will be branded as a ritvik deviant and he will be banned, beaten and some have been killed, since its forbidden to preach that one can take shelter of Srila Prabhupada. Rupanuga does not address this.]
RD: Respectful obeisances must go out to all the recently disappointed 1,500+ disciples, with the prayer to please take care to remain disciples under the direct protection of their Param-guru, Srila Prabhupada, who said that the grandfather is more kind to the sons than the father. So be it.
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RD: Jan 20, 2012 — JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, USA (SUN) — Those sincere souls who have been submitting for decades to disciples of Srila Prabhupada as spiritual masters, only to be disappointed, need not leave the proven path of Bhakti as revealed by Srila Prabhupada (who is not at all at fault).
[PADA: Who is at fault then? Its the false gurus AND the people who have supported that these fallen individuals are gurus in the first place like -- Rupanuga das. He still supports that these debauchees are or were "gurus" because he claims that Srila Prabhupada is the "param" (grand father) guru and that these debauchees are some sort of father"gurus" too. OK Srila Prabhupada is the param guru, yet Rupanuga STILL claims that both (a) the debauchees and (b) Srila Prabhupada are BOTH gurus. Rupanuga is equating them as both entitled to use the nomenclature of (diksha) gurus. So Rupanuga is at fault for telescoping these titles together artificially.
Worse, Rupanuga never explains how these debauched people became gurus -- at all, other than by his vociferous cheer leading? Rupanuga at one time became one of these false gurus himself. Rupanuga does not EVER explain, what was the actual instruction? Srila Prabhupada says that if a layman performs brain surgery, he will cause havoc and people will die. So Rupanuga says these bogus brain surgeons are qualified to perform the surgery and have to title of brain surgeon. Thus, when the hospital janitor uses the title of brain surgeon and performs the surgery, ouch, people will die, thats all. Rupanuga has never explained why he promoted the GBC and their illicit sex with men, women and children program as "guru"? He never explains why he wants the janitors to perform brain surgery -- and kill people thereby?]
RD: Because of such disappointments, one may have doubts about success in Krsna consciousness. But the path is not to be abandoned. Instead, under the complete shelter of Srila Prabhupada one will be saved for sure from material existence.
[PADA: OK, this does not explain why this shelter is being denied in the first place? Who authorized the GBC to make bogus brain surgeons and kill people in the first place? Who authorized Rupanuga to support such bogus brain surgeons? Why doesn't Rupanuga simply admit his bogus brain surgeons are killing people with bad surgery?]
RD: There is no need to get initiated again and again. One can take complete shelter of Srila Prabhupada and the Holy Name, Nama Prabhu. Nama Rupe is independent, as confirmed in Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya lila, Chapter 15, verses 106 through 111 with purports, a must read carefully. These verses and purports clearly indicate that a sincere soul, initiated or not, can take shelter of Srila Prabhupada-vani and Lord Krsna, the Holy Name, directly.
[PADA: OK, so why is this not being preached in ISKCON? Why are people being told to take shelter of these falling down self appointed gurus? Why isn't Rupanuga explaining that the GBC are deviants for promoting this false shelter?]
RD: The disappointed disciples of our Godbrothers remain on duty to give Srila Prabhupada's mercy to the suffering masses of conditioned souls on this planet, which is known as Martyaloka or the planet of death. Krsna consciousness is a matter of life and death for everyone. Srila Prabhupada wanted millions, he said "a hundred million" devotees.
[PADA: OK, except as soon as someone says we should take shelter of Srila Prabhupada the one will be branded as a ritvik deviant and he will be banned, beaten and some have been killed, since its forbidden to preach that one can take shelter of Srila Prabhupada. Rupanuga does not address this.]
RD: Respectful obeisances must go out to all the recently disappointed 1,500+ disciples, with the prayer to please take care to remain disciples under the direct protection of their Param-guru, Srila Prabhupada, who said that the grandfather is more kind to the sons than the father. So be it.
[PADA: OK Rupanuga never explains how his illicit sex with men women and children people are gurus in the first place? He says: The bogus are gurus AND SO IS Srila Prabhupada, albeit he is the param guru, ok so he is saying illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project leaders are gurus. He keeps saying these illicit sex fools are gurus and Srila Prabhupada is the param guru, but he never explains -- how do illicit sex fallen fools become gurus in the first place? These fools "become guru" because people like Rupanuga are rubber stamping them as gurus. ys pd]
Excerpt from Rupanuga at the beginning is three years old. Why rub three year old stuff in again and again?
ReplyDeleteNever heard of people making advancement? Besides, Rupanuga is preaching from inside. Why PADA cannot check this, sees things through his glasses?
Today Rupanuga writes, "There is no need to get initiated again and again. One can take complete shelter of Srila Prabhupada and the Holy Name, Nama Prabhu."
PADA's comment, if you read in between the lines, this guy should be shot.
So we have to stick to Prabhupada, he showed us how to preach for uplifting humanity.
Well, Rupanuga was a person the GBC deputed to be in charge of negotiating with Sulochan and the GBC, and he took the side of the GBC and helped excommunicate Sulochan and me by default, and a person was shot and I would have been except for the police. No apology was ever issued by Rupanuga for this and many other crimes that resulted from his support of this regime. ys pd
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