Sunday, October 13, 2013

ISKCON Temple's Leaders Go Berserk Over Questions


PADA: An ISKCON Temple wrote:

*** Don't you check your anarthas first before telling others about someone elses? 

[PADA: Notice, these ISKCON temple managers are saying acharyas have anarthas just like the neophytes.]

*** Don't send me any emails as I am not interested in any of your garbage that you are sending. Your email just goes to the spam folder and I seriously hate you for sending such emails. Why don't you understand when told once? This shows that you are dumb and inconsiderate to others? STOP sending these emails to me !!!!!

[PADA: Yep its dumb and inconsiderate to ask the ISKCON temple managers -- why their "good as God" gurus are falling down left, right and center all the time? The idea that gurus do not fall down is "dumb"? Right, and the idea that gurus engage in illicit sex is smart? This is good news, it means they are running out of rabbits to pull out of their hats, all they can do now is ban, block and harass, they have no shastra, and never did. Anyway, here is the letter than the ISKCON temple leaders went ballistic over:   

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Warnings to Gurus and Disciples by Srila Prabhupada

BY: VAISNAVA DASA
The recent fall of yet another guru, Mahanidhi Swami is very sad news. If one scrutinizingly studies text five of theNectar of Instruction they will see the crystal clear warnings of Srila Prabhupada. For reference, the last two paragraphs of His purport are quoted below. If the GBC would have studied these instructions of His Divine Grace's before they rushed into the Zonal Acarya System back in 1978 so much chaos could have been avoided. But material desire infected the GBC, who ignored these warnings. They instantly put themselves on the level of uttama-adhikaris, and we know the history of what happened. To this day the chaos continues and now another guru has fallen and caused himself and his follower's problems, confusion and heartbreak.

In the following purport Srila Prabhupada clearly says:
As long as the present gurus imitate the maha-bhagavata they are putting their own spiritual lives in danger. They are setting themselves up for future degradation. The disciple naturally wants to think of his guru as being on the topmost platform, and for one who is not fully self-realized the praise and worship of their disciples becomes an intoxicant which means: "one will eventually become degraded."
Present gurus, disciples, readers, don't be surprised -- Mahanidhi's recent fall will more than likely not be the last! How many gurus have become infected and fallen so far? Whomever is propping themselves up on an artificial level and accepting worship, i.e., imitating the behavior of the maha-bhagavata is subject to the Sampradaya Acarya's warning.
Also within these two paragraphs all devotees are warned to be intelligent enough to distinguish between the different levels of devotees. Present gurus, please understand the actual level you are on, don't fool yourself. Disciples, don't be foolish, sentimental, blind followers anymore. If your guru says he is on the uttama platform, use your God given intelligence to understand the actual platform that he is on. 

As far as we know there is no one on the level of a perfect devotee in our society at the present moment. Yes, some devotees are very fixed up, very staunch and qualified, but most likely not maha-bhagavatas. Where is that perfect devotee, completely self-realized, exhibiting ecstatic symptoms of love of God within themselves as Srila Prabhupada did? Only those who exhibit these symptoms are maha-bhagavatas. So here in His purport Srila Prabhupada is saying to the present gurus: "Don't fool yourself!" "Know your own level of advancement!" "Don't imitate the uttama adhikari!"

"Otherwise eventually you will become degraded" It doesn't matter how long you have been steady, staunch and fixed, Srila Prabhupada's warning is there for one and all.
Srila Prabhupada also makes a very clear statement here in His Bhaktivedanta Purport that although the kanistha or madhyama-adhikaris can accept disciples, they shouldn't. (We can clearly see why.) This is made clear by His using the word "Therefore" in the concluding sentence of this most important purport. His definition of this word was given in a lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.22 in Los Angeles on August 25, 1972.
"So "therefore." The word is "therefore." "Therefore" means after concluding something, then we say "therefore." When we talk, when we argue, when we come to the conclusion, then we say "therefore." Or when our argument is strong, then we say "therefore." So this "therefore" means that one is firmly convinced."
Nectar of Instruction, Text 5.

5 comments:

  1. Hare Krsna PADA Prabhu.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C.Bhaktivedanta swami Srila Prabhupada.
    Al Glories to the Prabhupadanugas.
    Please accept my fallen and humble obeisances.

    Don't send me any emails as I am not interested in any of your garbage that you are sending. Your email just goes to the spam folder and I seriously hate you for sending such emails. Why don't you understand when told once? This shows that you are dumb and inconsiderate to others? STOP sending these emails to me !!!!!

    Dear PADA Prabhu, first of all thank You for so much transcendental knowledge.
    The temple, who wrote this to you, they have shown now their real identity.
    A vaisnava, never hates anyone, not even an ant!!!

    To the temple who wrote this, you are stupid fools, dumb and inconsiderated for others. PADA Prabhu is giving us, so much transcendental knowlegde, that we can differ between, who is who, He is also giving sastra evidence.
    Why hate a Senior devotee of Srila Prabhupada, because you stupid fools,dumb and inconsiderated so-called devotees know that He is right from all angels of vision.
    You don't have manners, first of all, when the Pure chanting of the Mahabhagavata is sounding, you all stupid fools are talking loudly with each others during your japa, instead of listening to the Pure chanting
    That is Vyatikrama, transgression, very offensive.
    Furthermore, you eat so-called prasadam, cooked by meat eaters and offer it to Lord Krsna, who doesn't accept it.Because you are lazy to cook for Lord Krsna.
    The only thing, you stupid fools can think of laxmi and eating, and looking at youn girls.
    Just follow your gurus, they will take all your laxmi and will go away, so that you can weep and asking yourselves, what is happened.
    Even Dombo the little elepanth is smarter than you fools, he can fly and your gurus are just like Dombo, they will also fly with your laxmi!!!
    We accept due to the mercy from PADA Prabhu and all the staunch Prabhupadanugas, His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada as our siksa and diksa Guru.

    Think about it stupid fools,who wants a Guru,who is engaged in illicit sex, dumping all their karma on you fools.
    No one of us!!!
    Dear PADA Prabhu and the other Prabhupadanugas,
    please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
    Always Your servant,
    nandanidasi


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  2. This letter was written to a young devotee couple who have a nice baby. Not to PADA. The couple sent a letter the temple as a question and this is the reply they got. This shows how badly people are being treated everywhere, not just how they treated us. Needless to say, this couple now agrees with PADA, the GBC guru folks behavior is way out of line and highly aggressive and offensive. What can we say, keep alienating people and they will come to agree with us. ys pd

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  3. With all the offenses being thrown about in every direction by all involved it's a wonder if any of you will go back to Godhead at the end of this life? Srila Prabhupada said stop the fighting and cooperate.

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  4. Hare Krsna Pada Prabhu.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhakitvedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    All Glories to the Prabhupadanugas.

    This is for the young couple devotee with their nice baby.
    Dear Devotees,
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.

    My Dear Devotees, You came to the right place, here you can learned so many things, this is always happening to so many devotees, they are being kicked out from the temple.
    I was also one of them and finally, when I prayed to Srila Prabhupada, to show me the way, where to go, I found this website.
    PADA Prabhu is right, the GBC guru folks behavior is way of line and highly aggressive and offensive.
    They think they are as good as Srila Prabhupada and can do what ever they want.
    But they forgot, that no one can take the place of His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Lord Krsna knows everything, no on can escape the stringent laws of matrial nature, seeing and counting all their atricities done to all the devotees.
    Just make your home a temple and worship Srila Prabhupada with your heart and soul, and accept Him as your only shelter, and you will see, how things will happen.
    You will be happy and teach that little nice baby also to sing the glories of Srila Prabhupada and he/she will dance and that wil make you also happy.
    Please visit this website of PADA Prabhu, it is the best website, and no one can beat it.
    Don't worry,that you are making vaisnavapradha or something like that, this is the slogan for many years from the temples, or Nama hatta, they don't even know what vaisnavapradha is. They think they are pure devotees, but being a pure devotee, you must have 26th qualilties. You will be feel free and can do your worship in a happy mood.
    Give the little nice baby, a lots of love and hugs from me.
    Hare Krsna,
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
    All Glories to the Prabhupadanugas.
    Always your servant,
    nandanidasi

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  5. Hare Krsna PADA Prabhu,
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhakrtivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    All Glories to the Prabhupadanugas.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
    I made a mistake in my comment,I try to do everything in a short time.
    I wrote to the young couple devotees:"My devotees".
    Sorry for that, because, I'm used to write My dear such and such.
    Dear Devotees, please forgive this stupid mataji, You are devotees of Srila Prabhupada.
    I love little baby's, they are so nice, and I wish I also had some sweet little innocent children.Children are my weakness, If I hear that someone hurts children, I become like fire!!!
    Dear devotees, please take good care of the baby, and be vigilant, give him/her so much love and warmth. Dear little vaisnava or vaisnavi, please accept my fallen and humble obeisances.
    All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    Hare Krsna
    please accept my humble obeisances
    Always Your servant.
    nandanidasi

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