Friday, October 25, 2013

Pratyatosa On Windle Turley Lawsuit

Q: "Did you not get involved in the Turley Law Suit Case to help drain ISKCON of millions of dollars"?

Pratyatosa das replies:

1. I was the one who first contacted the Turley law firm when I was in the process of being kicked out of the ISKCON St. Louis temple in the fall of 1997.

2. I was their first Hare Krishna contact, 1½ years later, when I was living in the ISKCON Detroit devotee community.

3. I convinced Mr. Turley to take the case.

4. I never had the slightest doubt that the lawsuit was Kṛṣṇa’s desire.

5. I was fully prepared to testify in court without any fear because I had absolutely nothing to hide.

6. I am grateful that the 2nd generation was finally able to see clearly that they were simply victimized as helpless children so that they could finally stop feeling guilty. As a result, the 2nd generation suicides immediately dropped practically to nil!


Windle Turley Lawsuit explained:

Ex-kuli (Jvalamukhi dd) discusses ISKCONs children:

Founder of child abuse regime -- Tamal Krishna swami vs PADA:

[PADA: No one else did anything to help these children up till then, or ever since. Nothing was ever done by anyone else to fix this problem. Basically, the critics wanted the suicides to continue and even -- to get worse, there is no other explanation. ys pd] 



  1. This was the problem, everyone else was worried about the money, not the children.

  2. These devotees were simply overburdened and couldnt handle it. They were poor devils who made mistakes because they didn't know better. They didnt even figure to call for help. Prabhupada wanted these children to live and grow up in the temple. Unfortunately this didn't work. There was no money to buy everything and there were no skilled educationalist to manage so many children. Parents of these children were going on travelling Sankirtan to collect. Detroit had 800 children! So who is to blame? Of course it was right to start this court case. It is probably one of the darkest chapters of ISKCON history. Good news is it was so horrible that it probably won't happen again.

  3. Hare Krsna Dear Pratyatosa Prabhu and PADA Prabhu.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances. Nandani told me that You wrote about the Turley Case, and I was the one who mailed You, that I had question which was bothering me, what happened to the laxmi we donated to BCS.
    We didn't worried about the laxmi, Dear Pratyatosa Prabhu, because the laxmi was meant for the ex Gurukuli's.
    I asked You Dear Prabhu if BCS gaveYou the laxmi we collected for the Turley case. If we didn't care for the ex gurukulis, why should we donate? Think about it Dear Prabhu.

    Dear PADA Prabhu.
    This is for Bhakti Charu Swami.
    Hare Krsna Bhakti Charu Swami, thank you for cheating us, you took all the credits for yourself, that you handle the Turley case. It was Pratyatosa Prabhu who convinced Mr. Turley to take the case.
    And we stupid fools thought, you will give the laxmi to the ex gurukuli's, that they will use it for their future live.
    This is so said, that many of them were so victimized and commited suicide.
    We care for the ex Gurikuli's, they deserve more than all of you and your disciples!!!
    Thank You Pratyatosa Prabhu, that You helped the ex gurikuli's, please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
    Always Your servant.

  4. I"m very sorry PADA Prabhu, I had to write my comment in two halves.
    Hare Krsna Dear PADA Prabhu, this is Your website, if You wish You can delete this comment is for Prabhupada News, it is not for the real Prabhupadanugas, who are serving Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krsna with their heart and soul, but for those who are not the real Prabhupadanugas. I
    Hare Krsna Prabhupadanews, thank You all very much, that You didn't give nandani excess to write her comments,, she was the one who first knew that You were Hacked.
    She is not stupid, but she have acces to the backgrounds of all the so-called Prabhupadanugas here in the Netherlands.
    The worst of all is Madan Gopal Dasa, I know you will read this Prabhu, if PADA Prabhu allows this comment.
    You are living at the cost of the disciples of BTS, and BCS and think You are higher than His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada?
    You are teaching Bhagavata Geeta, because it has a deeper meaning? And has lost 20000 euro's in gambling, what a teacher you are!!!
    What deeper meaning is there in the Bhagavata Gita as it is onedited, Srila Prabhupad gave all the meanings of the Bhagavata Gita, the only thing you have to do is digest it, and practice it!!!
    And if you listen to Srila Prabhupada His lecture, if you realize on verse of the Bhagavata Gita, You will realize the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna.
    This is not fair to nandani, and I'm praying for her that You Madan Gopala Prabhu will never cross her road!!! She is fire and if you touch her you will burn so deeply.What happened to you, are suffering from MPS?
    Go on with the disciple of JPS, who is visiting all Nama Hatta's in the Netherlands, he can tell the future of all persons,wow what a TRIKAL Darsi!!!
    He is fooling you all, and doing so many yagjyas, and if he tells the Stupid Nama Hatta leaders and the devotees, that this person is not good, she or he will be kicked out of the Nama Hatta!!! And You stupid fools pay him for his work, not knowing he is cheating you all.
    Shame on You, Madan Gopal das Prabhu and Your own group. Please take a look at your own faults, and shame on the so-called Prabhupadanugas, who are still licking the boots of these devotees, for money only.
    Please remove your orange color cloth it doesn't suit you, hiding yourself in a room with Monique and talking for hours, everyone knows it, but they keep their mouth shut.
    Hare Krsna Anonymous Prabhu, this is not true, not everyone was worried about the money, I'm a mother and grandmother and I love my grandchildren, my oldest grandson is also going to a school, and you know Prabhu what the Minister of Justice did, they put on all side camera's, for 24 hours and no one can remove it.
    Children are so innocent Dear Prabhu, an example if you will give them something to eat, they will put it in their mouth.
    I don't want to think what will happen with my grandson, it is horrible, and what they did to the ex gurukuli's,, I wish Lord Nrsimha Deva will tear them in pieces.
    Hare Krsna.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    All Glories to the REAL PRABHUPADANUGAS.
    All Glories to the ex Gurukuli's with love and warmth from a mataji.
    Thank You again Pratyatosa Prabhu and PADA Prabhu. Dear PADA Prabhu, thank You that Nandani can write her comments here on your website, she is happy with it and she also teaches me so much.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
    Always Your servant,

  5. Yes prabhu, almost everyone was happy when the suicides went down except, the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad (UK) / Pancali dasi / Nicklaus Evans (NZ) group, whose spokesman Sanat wrote that he wanted to see the molested children die in "a blood bath in Dallas," and they wanted to have these kulis "killed and chopped up and fed to dogs," and they are infuriated that these children are alive even.

    Now we know why, they are promoting the Bhakta das / Radhanath GBC's guru program.

  6. Hare Krsna PADA Prabhu.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.

    Dear PADA Prabhu,I'm not sorry to say this Prabhu, only demons can think of such things.They are not devotees,.
    You were right Prabhu, that even a karmi spend so much time and money, if a child is gone, the whole Police Force will search after these child.
    We are happy that the children are alive, and thanks to You and Pratyatosa Prabhu, they will have a future.
    There is something wrong in the minds of these Sanat/Mukunda/Prahlad/Pancali dasi etc.
    A shame for you Pancali dasi, the real Pancali had so much compassion even for the son of Dronacarya, who killed her children and you want the molested children die in a "a blood bath in Dallas". use your karmi name it is not worth to call yourself pancali, is a offense, to the real PANCALI, she is a pure devotee of Lord Krsna!!! That day will come that Sanat and his evilmindend groups heads will be chopped off by the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna or Lord Nrsimhadeva, and Lord Yamaraja will fed your heads to his dogs on his planet.
    Let them be infiuriated, they are not the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna!!! chop off each others heads evilminded demons.
    Children are our future you stupid fools and promoting RNS, I met him, you can feel that he is so cold, like a zombie and he is walking like the earth belongs to him.
    His eyes is so dark, and he if looks at you, you want to run away from him.
    A very creepy person.
    Hare Krsna.
    Please accept my fallen and humble obeisances
    Dear ex Gurukuli's this mataji gives You with lots of love and lots of hugs all her love to you, we are very happy that you all are still alive and Lord Krsna and Srila Prabhupada will give you all Their mercy. And the one who committed suicide is back home back to Lord Krsna and Srila Prabhupada.
    Lord Krsna is totally independed, no tiny little spiritual spark can give Him orders, and He knows everything, be sure of it.
    Hare Krsna.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    All Glories to the real Prabhupadanugas.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
    Always Your servant,

  7. Thanks you are correct, This problem also happened in the Catholic church, -- children were victimized, repressed, and there were suicides. Yep, its apparently also happened when Evangelical priests molested people, its a problem all over. We agree, this has been a pattern in other religions and cultures.

    And often the congregations did not act to fix the problem. That's what some ex-Catholic victims testified, they were repressed and told to keep quiet not only by the leaders, but also by rank and file members of the Church. Yes, this is a pattern in many other examples. The Catholics had to learn the hard way, hopefully others will learn as well. ys pd


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