[PADA: There are evidently still cases where devotees are being deprived of basic material facilities, while the GBC gurus are out there spending millions of dollars to keep their lawyers in mansions, and to have funds for them to visit Cedars Sinai hospital when they get a skinned knuckle looking under the couch for their TV remote etc.
There are apparently still feelings of "fear of reprisals" from the GBC's guru program, and this is one reason we get so many anonymous comments. The good news is that "the cat is now out of the bag" on many of these problems, and its getting harder for them to find fresh victims. And this is the one main reason people are against PADA, we are giving a voice to these victims (and saving others from being the next wave of new victims at the same time). ys pd]
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Pamho Puranjana Prabhu,
Large corporations have a problem. Sure people need their product and they are making money hand over fist, but how do they keep people from becoming envious of them? Well, truth be told they really don't give a crap about people, just the bottom line. So they hire some PR firms so they can come up with a plan on how to be loved by a gullible public.
Case in point: -- McDonald's.
They only sell murder, bad karma and poor health. But how can you hate a company that helps dying kids with housing and has a happy clown? Another case is the Catholic church. Yes they live like gods on earth but they still need the little people to keep forking up the cash. So they make the Pope seem like a regular guy who buys a used car from a friend. How can you be envious of such a humble group of guys?
Oh, don't forget the NFL. You will never meet a finer bunch of billionaires and millionaires. Their big thing is to support cancer victims by wearing pink and those silly ribbons. How can you find fault with them? When the new gurus took over they could have used a good PR firm. I'm as good as God, but you are only paying me dirt, I need more opulence for myself. That didn't really set well with some devotees. They could have at least pretended to care about the devotees.
Maybe a good program for kids where at least they wouldn't be abused. Maybe some program for the devotee's health. Maybe some facilities for older devotees who have given their whole lives instead of just kicking them out on the street like used garbage. Maybe using some of their scuba diving money and flying their entourage first class on world tours to attend useless meetings, to instead, start some sort of small business so devotees (and ex-kulis) could make some money. maybe making cardboard boxes or something. But noooo I'm as good as God, you are dirt, so you have to pay me more and more.
I was on the road for years on TSKP under very rough conditions distributing books and would do it again in a heartbeat. But other devotees, such as children, widows and older devotees may need some stability and help. That is the purpose of being a devotee -- its to help the conditioned souls develop their love of Lord Krsna. Older people, women, children and cows are always to be protected. Yet it seems -- these classes are the first to become victimized by the bogus gurus.
I heard this tale of a women who gave up everything and moved herself and kids to Dallas to do full time service. She humbly asked what should she do if herself or one of her kids needed medical attention. She had donated her car to the Temple. She was told to go to the Martin Luther King free clinic. Would there be someone to drive her?
No, she could catch a bus. But if the temple President's wife had even a hang nail, she would be on an airplane to the Berne Switzerland hang nail institute to be treated by specialists. Double standard perhaps?
I'm God, you are dirt, serve me. Yes they could have used a good PR firm.
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There are apparently still feelings of "fear of reprisals" from the GBC's guru program, and this is one reason we get so many anonymous comments. The good news is that "the cat is now out of the bag" on many of these problems, and its getting harder for them to find fresh victims. And this is the one main reason people are against PADA, we are giving a voice to these victims (and saving others from being the next wave of new victims at the same time). ys pd]
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Pamho Puranjana Prabhu,
Large corporations have a problem. Sure people need their product and they are making money hand over fist, but how do they keep people from becoming envious of them? Well, truth be told they really don't give a crap about people, just the bottom line. So they hire some PR firms so they can come up with a plan on how to be loved by a gullible public.
Case in point: -- McDonald's.
They only sell murder, bad karma and poor health. But how can you hate a company that helps dying kids with housing and has a happy clown? Another case is the Catholic church. Yes they live like gods on earth but they still need the little people to keep forking up the cash. So they make the Pope seem like a regular guy who buys a used car from a friend. How can you be envious of such a humble group of guys?
Oh, don't forget the NFL. You will never meet a finer bunch of billionaires and millionaires. Their big thing is to support cancer victims by wearing pink and those silly ribbons. How can you find fault with them? When the new gurus took over they could have used a good PR firm. I'm as good as God, but you are only paying me dirt, I need more opulence for myself. That didn't really set well with some devotees. They could have at least pretended to care about the devotees.
Maybe a good program for kids where at least they wouldn't be abused. Maybe some program for the devotee's health. Maybe some facilities for older devotees who have given their whole lives instead of just kicking them out on the street like used garbage. Maybe using some of their scuba diving money and flying their entourage first class on world tours to attend useless meetings, to instead, start some sort of small business so devotees (and ex-kulis) could make some money. maybe making cardboard boxes or something. But noooo I'm as good as God, you are dirt, so you have to pay me more and more.
I was on the road for years on TSKP under very rough conditions distributing books and would do it again in a heartbeat. But other devotees, such as children, widows and older devotees may need some stability and help. That is the purpose of being a devotee -- its to help the conditioned souls develop their love of Lord Krsna. Older people, women, children and cows are always to be protected. Yet it seems -- these classes are the first to become victimized by the bogus gurus.
I heard this tale of a women who gave up everything and moved herself and kids to Dallas to do full time service. She humbly asked what should she do if herself or one of her kids needed medical attention. She had donated her car to the Temple. She was told to go to the Martin Luther King free clinic. Would there be someone to drive her?
No, she could catch a bus. But if the temple President's wife had even a hang nail, she would be on an airplane to the Berne Switzerland hang nail institute to be treated by specialists. Double standard perhaps?
I'm God, you are dirt, serve me. Yes they could have used a good PR firm.
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Thanks yes, however these poor devotees are so much traumatized that they might require another ten years to see things in proper perspective. So this is all very much creepy cultish and not Lord Caitanya's Sankirtan movement. Basically senior devotees run away and ISKCON gurus recruit fresh supply at rogue states & poorhouses. Wise decision! Of course when these new recruits grow up they will clearly tell their gurus what has to be done. So more gurus will be seen escaping during moonless nights....
ReplyDeleteHare Krsna PADA Prabhu.
ReplyDeleteAll Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhakitvedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
Please accept my fallen and humble obeisances.
Thank You PADA Prabhu, You are right from all angles of vision.
Lord Caitany's Sankirtan movement is degrading more and more.
Instead of helping the conditioned souls, they want more and more money.
And devotees who are getting their paid salaries, are keeping their mouth shut, they don't want to loose their comfortable life.
They are destroying their own spiritual life, because this is not bhakti, doing devotional service and get paid for it.
Thank You again PADA Prabhu for the article, it so sad, but please go one, and expose these Bogus Guru's, we are Your supporters.
Hare Krsna.
Please accept my fallen and humble obeisances.
Always Your Servant.
dasianudasi
I agree that there are a few problems here and there, but if we keep giving the gurus big money and the managers a good salary, then eventually they will get fed-up with opulence and start chanting.
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