Monday, March 31, 2014

Rocana Refusing to Post Rebuttals

[PADA NOTE: Correct, Rocana does not allow any siddhanta comments from the many writers who have wrote articles to defeat his articles, including some from Amar Puri, various Bangalore devotees, Yasodananda, PADA, Praghosha das, Mahesh Raja, the IRM and many others. 

Rocana claims to have an open and honest brahminical siddhanta site, but there is no discussion allowed contrary to what he himself accepts. And of course Rocana only accepts the GBC / Sridhara Maharaja idea that -- there has to be a living guru, which Srila Prabhupada says destroyed the Gaudiya Matha. 

There is also no one named "Shasta Chaksus das," rather this is Rocana writing under a pen name. In any case, there are now numbers of sites that are defeating the Rocana / GBC / Sridhara Maharaja "living guru" idea. ys pd] 

Amar Puri: One can read and understand from ROCANA's replies -- how he is appreciative to Yasodanandana Prabhu’s writing and yet, he appears very envious when he says in his writing;  "... he should get free from the mood that he adopted back then, which is reflected in his recent article." 

Read: "let me tell you how it is, let me give you the absolute truth, my assertions are un-debatable, I speak only the absolute facts, Srila Prabhupada liked it and approved of it, the better off he'll be to himself and to the rest of us." Without proving any thing wrong, Rocana humbly suggests things contrary to the writing of Yasodananadana Prabhu, which is really not very humble at all and is full of ENVY.

Is that NOT a FACT ?

That is Rocana dasa’s character.

To tell you readers the truth, I used to admire Rocana dasa very much until he put up his thesis "DOR" in his public domain on the net, without allowing anyone to counter his article. After reading it, I began to see different colors in his character, and through his writing he duly twisted and turned against the Rtvik system made by Srila Prabhupada for continued initiation. Rocana never tells us what really was ordered? Stopping the orders of Srila Prabhupada is also -- not an order in itself? What was the order? Rocana never says?

When asked these questions by myself and many others, he will not publish us in order for the public to read and make a well informed decision. Which is what the GBC gurus are doing, And yet he continues promoting and protecting his non-sense ideas, full of concoction interpreted thesis of his DOR, to "prove" HOW wrong Srila Prabhupada's orders are, even saying the orders of the acharya are against the Sastras, Sadhu and Guru tattva. Srila Prabhupada’s Rtvik system of Initiation is what Srila Prabhupada strongly implemented in his Iskcon institution to continue …… HENCEFORWARD ……. as per Srila Prabhupada’s directions.

What any body can do is simply follow Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions -- VANI in order to make our lives sublime in cultivating KC. Anyway, Rocana will never go far saying that Srila Prabhupada's instructions are against guru, sadhu and shastra, that is what the Gaudiya Matha said about Srila Prabhupada, and they did not go far either. They were the branch of the tree of Mahaprabhu that withered, just as Rocana's program is now.


All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.


  1. *** Our dearest Puranjana dasa, why are you so unhappy?

    [PADA: Not unhappy at all, you folks cannot even identify your program. Rocana has to make up wirters because he has none. There is no person named Shastra Caksus, its Rocana writing to make pretend he has followers. And his local GBC has a web site of Armenian folklore, umm, not attracting people either. Our program in Vancouver is attracting people.]

    *** What is said is true of these foolish ritviks. Your comments on the other hand are not. Srila Prabhudada is linked through his vani not his vapuh.

    [PADA: Ummm, that's what we said? We said the link is the vani and not the vapuh. You are agreeing with us.]

    *** He has said this many times and he also said the same of his guru though Srila Prabhupada sometimes says he feels his guru's presence. Saying that, did he jump up and say, " Hey, I feel my guru's presence. My guru is alive! He's alive"!

    [PADA: Yes, Srila Prabhupada says he feels the presence of his guru, and yes he must be alive to do so? Our people say that all the time, they feel Srila Prabhupada's presence in his books and teachings, people say that all the time about Jesus as well. A popular bumper sticker in San Francisco is "Jesus lives." I also used to be a security guard at a giant rented warehouse where they had "spiritual singing," mostly African Americans, and that was one of the songs, "He lives, He lives," yep, people say that about their guru every day. You are the only ones who say, He's postmortem, you people sound like a funeral, and that is why you have no following, who wants to follow the funeral dirge?]

    *** Come, lets do the ritvik ( post samadhi ritvik initiation). No, he did not unlike some fanatical ritviks. Thats the difference between the spiritual masters understanding of the spirit and your goodself and not forgetting the foolish ritviks. We all wish Srila Prabhupada was here physically but as we all know there is this thing called old age. Accept for Sri Krsna we are all effected by it including the spiritual masters. No exceptions here. So, grow up. stop whining. Act mature. Don't be a child. Your spiritual father is waiting for you on

    [PADA: Umm, people are accepting Jesus every day and getting saved from alcoholism and so many things, He is there helping them, and so can any guru do the same. Apparently, they cannot help you because, since you think they are no longer relevant, you are saying only you are relevant. Rocana thinks only he is relevant, well, he is not, and that is why he has to invent his writers, he has no writers. ys pd]

    Rocana's house, why there is no temple? Is it too small?
    Thanks for any idea?

  3. (PADA NOTE: Correct, Rocana does not allow any siddhanta comments from the many writers who have wrote articles to defeat his articles, including some from Amar Puri, various Bangalore devotees, Yasodananda, PADA, Praghosha das, Mahesh Raja, the IRM and many others. )

    Dear Puranjana dasa, you have given names of some ritvik followers here.

    [PADA: Correct, we have actual people with real names who support our idea, and we also have actual programs including one in Vancouver. Rocana's writers do not even exist. His program does not even exist. His living guru does not even exist. Wyatt's supporters also do not exist, he does not even have a bogus pen name like Balavidya. Wyattt's program also does not exist. Wyatt's living guru also does not exist. Wyatt you are quite right, or people, our programsm our guru, they all exist, yours are all imaginary. ys pd]

  4. "There is also no one named "Shasta Chaksus das," rather this is Rocana writing under a pen name." Rocana is yet another accomplice of ISKCON's undercover family network.

    In order to understand the operation method of this agenda, it is all about to gain control, exertion of power. Rocana's program is in no way disturbing ISKCON's GBC. In fact psychology of "Sampradaya Sun" (reg Susan Eshelman) is to help GBC keeping aloof all those exploited seniors who previously surrendered everything up to family silver.

    Just like in modern material society, Vaishnava institutions have no usage of elderly devotees and at one point want to want to throw them out. This saves them money and that's why Rocana's pen never stops. All his writing is meant to make senior Vaishnavas take flight.

    Rocana has done a pretty good job of chasing people away from ISKCON, right now its about empty. He wants to stop the worship of Srila Prabhupada so he can destroy the entire religion. That has been his whole purpose of life for the past 40 years, he wants to see ISKCON die.

  5. Rocana das will also face death someday. Today? Tomorrow? Only God knows. Meanwhile, he'll go on paving the path to his unknown future. Sail on Rocana ji! Sail on!...


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