Thursday, February 20, 2014

Reference Site for "The Poison Issue"

[PADA: The "poison issue" is at the root of all the subsequent "troubles" in ISKCON. Some of the big ISKCON leaders were ambitious to "take over" and they simply could not wait to get rid of their spiritual master so they could sit in his seat, which they did. They then claimed to have been the "appointed successors" apparently -- not too much unlike evil children of wealthy parents -- who kill the parents in order to take over the property and assets of the parents.

We think this issue will become more and more the -- centerpiece issue -- and prime example of "what went wrong" with the Hare Krishna religion after 1977. In 1990 we became aware that these "poison tapes" existed, and so we prayed to Krishna to get us copies. And in 1997 Krishna answered our prayers, we finally got audio copies of these tapes, and we immediately had them translated by a Bengali friend.  

PADA's editor was then the first person on the planet to publicly release these audio tapes to the public, where Srila Prabhupada complains of being poisoned. And we also went out in front of the Los Angeles Rathayatra in 1997 to announce the official launch of the poison investigation -- with a big sign. Yep, we were attacked of course.

We also started out by making 250 copies of the tape, and we distributed these copies at the Los Angeles temple, and we also mailed out copies to various people around the world. At that time (1997) not only many of the GBC ilk, but even some of our own friends thought we had "gone totally bonkers," and they argued that it was "impossible that Srila Prabhupada's dearmost servants would have administered poison to him."

However, as time went on, more and more people gradually accepted -- that this poison complaint is what Srila Prabhuapada himself is complaining about -- being given poison. So although PADA editor may or may not be a crack pot, its hard to dispute the fact that Srila Prabhupada is the person presenting the complaint, not us. And so we have gradually had more and more important people switching over from support of the bogus GBC's view, to agreeing with us on the poison issue.

And the issue has been pretty much analyzed by many intelligent and important people who all agree, there is evidence of intentional poisoning of Srila Prabhupada. Anyway, we'd like to thank all of the people over the years who assisted us in forwarding this important issue. This is at the heart of all of the subsequent mischief, and so it needs to be acknowledged and understood by all sincere devotees of the Hare Krishna religion. And eventually, it will be known and understood by all sincere Krishna devotees as this movement moves ahead into future generations. This will become a key understanding within the religion, not at all unlike the crucifixion of Jesus is a key point to understanding the Christian faith. Srila Prabhupada himself said, "Just as they killed Jesus, they may kill me also." Anyway, we will win on this issue as time goes on, just as we won on so many other issues. We are quoting the pure devotee, and this simply cannot be defeated by anyone, satyam eva jayate, ys pd]          


http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/prabhupada-poisoned-overview.html

INDEX - LISTING - OVERVIEW - LINKS
- Someone Has Poisoned Me -
BY: NITYANANDA DAS
His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
Behind (on left) is the chief culprit Tamal Krishna a.k.a.Thomas Herzig who
conspired with other devious GBC leaders to poison Srila Prabhupada to death.
Note Srila Prabhupada's swollen hands and sun glasses, the effects of the arsenic poisoning.
Dr. Mehta, an Ayurvedic physician who lives in Houston, was shown several photographs of Srila Prabhupada during His last days, and he also observed the video documentary of Srila Prabhupada's last months entitled: "The Final Lesson." Dr. Mehta has been a practicing Ayurvedic physician since 1948. His summary comments are:
"The expression and symptoms of the face, the eyes and the manner of speaking indicate to me that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, most probably by arsenic or mercuryHe Himself said that He was poisoned, confirmed by dullness of the face and how the natural color of the body is gone. This is very hard for the average person to understand; only the experienced eye can tell."

The Facts About Srila Prabhupada's Poisoning by Arsenic

"So as Krishna was attempted to be killed... And Lord Jesus Christ was killed.
So they may kill me also." (Srila Prabhupada, May 3, l976, Honolulu)
"my only request is , that at the last stage don't torture me, and put me to death"
(from SPC Vol. 36, November 3, 1977 tape recorded Room Conversation)

WAS SRILA PABHUPADA POISONED?
The question whether Srila Prabhupada was poisoned by arsenic is NOT a question of speculation or argumentation. Srila Prabhupada Himself, (by Himself on tape) says, that he has been poisoned:
Prabhupada: Don’t move me to the hospital. Better kill me here.
Swarupa Damodar: We won’t Srila Prabhupada
Bhavananda: Never
Prabhupada: But if you are disgusted, that is another thing.
[Room Conversation, Oct 22, 1977, Vrindavana]
Prabhupada: [after taking the medicine] “I am puzzled. In this condition I do not wish to live. In this way it is not desirable to remain, every day a crisis.” [Room Conversation, Oct 26, 1977, Vrindavana]
Prabhupada: “This is my only request, that at the last stage don’t torture me and put me to death. So I am not eating anything, and if we chant, by batches chant, I’ll hear.” [Room Conversation, Nov 3, 1977, Vrindavana]
Prabhupada: Someone says that I’ve been poisoned. It is possible.
Kaviraja (doctor): What is he saying?
Prabhupada: Someone says that someone has given poison.
Kaviraja: To whom?
Prabhupada: To me.
Kaviraja: Who said?
Prabhupada: These all friends
Kaviraja: Who would give you poison? Why would anyone do that?
Prabhupada: I do not know, but it is said.
Kaviraja: Look, this is the thing, that maybe some rakshasa (demon) gave him poison.
Bhakti-caru: Someone gave him poison here.
Tamal Krsna: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him.
Bhakti-caru: Yes!!!
Tamal Krsna: That was the mental distress.
Bhakti-caru: Yes!!!
Kaviraja: If he says that, there must definitely be some truth in it.
Tamal Krsna: What did Kaviraja just say?
Bhakti-caru: He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that, there must be some truth behind it.
Tamal Krsna: Tssh.
[Recorded Room Conversation, Nov 9-10, 1977, Vrindavana]
Note: Srila Prabhupada is complaining here Himself, that He is being TORTURED AND POISONED "TO DEATH" BY HIS DEVIOUS DISCIPLES AND THIS IS AGAIN CONFIRMED:
CONFIRMATION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA'S POISONING
BhakticaruSomeone gave him poison here.
Tamala Krsna: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him. [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: YES!!!
Tamala Krsna: That was the mental distress. [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: YES!!!
KavirajaIf he says that, there must definitely be some truth to it. (Hindi) [(((audio)))]
Tamala Krsna: What did Kaviraja just say?
Bhakticaru: He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that (he is poisoned) there must be something truth behind it.
Tamala Krsna: Sssss!
Srila Prabhupada's own words, stating that his poisoning is possible, is the strongest possible evidence, since these are the words of the acharya. Such directly revealed evidence is conclusive since it is beyond the four defects. Even supposedly water-tight forensic evidence has to take second place to the words of the acharya. Any sincere disciple of Srila Prabhupada will believe in His words.
Any sincere disciple and follower of Srila Prabhupada will accept His complaint of being poisoned and try to find out the poisoners. Why a guru has to beg his disciples not to torture him to death is another inconceivable question. We only can guess that these so called devious torturing disciples are so bad, as to cause such a horrible statement of the guru, who helplessly has to beg for His life:
Srila Prabhupada: "my only request is , that at the last stage don't torture me, and put me to death" (from SPC Vol. 36, November 3, 1977 tape recorded Room Conversation)
Tamal KrsnaBhakticaruJayapataka and Bhavananda were obviously dominating over the conversations at the time. Srila Prabhupada was 80 years of age, his body was skin and bones, he could hardly speak. On the other hand Tamal KrsnaJayapatakaBhavanandaJayadvaitaBhakti CharuGiriraj were about 30 years of age. To solicit such a response from their own spiritual master to not torture him and ‘put to death’ is nerve racking to say the least. Their behavior is typical of people with a psychopathic nature and demoniac consciousness.

ARTICLE OVERVIEW
prabhupada-poisoned-part1.html - [Overview by prabhupadanugas.eu ]
prabhupada-poisoned-part2.html - [Comments by Nityananda on VNN and Media]
prabhupada-poisoned-part3.html - [Bhakta Charu to cover-up Prabhupada’s poisoning]
prabhupada-poisoned-part4.html - [The poison transcript with MP3 audio files to hear]

above articles will continually be updated

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Srila Prabhupada left this mortal world on November 14, 1977.
But He lives forever in His instructions, and His followers will always live with Him. 
"He reasons ill who tells that Vaishnavas die
While thou art living still in sound!
The Vaishnavas die to live, and living try
To spread the Holy Name around"
(Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Thākura)
FURTHER REFERENCES:
KRISHNA FOUNDER'S POISONING by Puranjana dasa *
Poison Tape Transcript & Analysis  by Puranjana dasa *
Srila Prabhupada's fast Health Deterioration within 7 month
Srila Prabhupada - Bedside Conversations 1977
Srila Prabhupadas Personal Poison Complaints on Tape recording *
Original Audio CD with the poison whispers   audio poison whispers
Nityanandas original E-Book Some One Has Poisoned Me   Original E-Book by Nityananda
Bill Of Indictment against Tamal Krishna Goswami *
Someone Has Poisoned Me  by Nityananda dasa *
Confirmation Of Arsenic Poisoning *
POISON SUSPECTS Tamal Krishna - Main murder Suspect *
POISON WHISPERS  by Nityananda das *
POISON QUESTIONS *
Original Poison Transcript Tape Transcript with Audio Files *
Srila Prabhupada's Poisoning Case in India [BIF]
HE WAS ALSO SERVED WITH POISON
SRILA PRABHUPADA CONFIRMS POISON WHISPERS!
Srila Prabhupada: 'Please Give Me Medicine - I Want To Die'
Tamal Krishna to Srila Prabhupada: "Now you have to choose which suicide"
Conversations in Reverse Speech Confirm Poisoning
Poison Issue Confirmed by Science - by Halayudha dasa
Srila Prabhupada complains "I AM BEING POISONED" by Pada
REVERSE SPEECH ANALYSIS REVEALS
TAMAL KRISHNA AND BHAKTI CHARU TO POISON SRILA PRABHUPADA

Adridharana's misinterpretation of the poison issue
TAMAL'S POISON COMMENTS AND FIXING GENITALS (?) REPORT
HEAR FROM SRILA PRABHUPADA - the essence of the poison issue - PDF
Original Poison Transcript with real audio files for hearing
Poison CD containing the poison whispers 
The ISkcon History Page
Appointment Tape Fraud
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