[PADA: We invite all Prabhupadanuga devotees to write to the South Asian Bar folks (address below), and other concerned parties named here, and inform them that the Badrinaryana das / Harivilas / Kuladri et al. GBC has been saying since 1977 -- that Lord Krishna's successors and acharyas are "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" -- because they hate Hindu culture and Lord Krishna -- while artificially posing as its advocates. And that is why want to make an odious public image ALL OVER THE PLANET that Lord Krishna's "guru successors" are the worst debauchees in the world, as they have done since 1977.
We should inform the next wave of GBC's victims that these bogus GBC people are the biggest leaders of the Krishna haters club, and their regime has had us "dissenters" banned, beaten and assassinated -- as soon as we say that their bogus "successors to Krishna" -- aka drug addicts, man to man sex, genital lickers, child molesters, homosexual pedophiles, assorted criminals and deviants, orchestrators of beatings and murders etc. are NOT the successors to God Almighty. Yep, as soon as we say butt sex is not the qualification of Krishna's successors, we are shunned, banned and killed by this group, and they may sometimes call the police to have us removed and etc. -- and that is ALL there is to this whole GBC program since 1977.
This is a great opportunity for us to expose their pedophile messiahs club and its leaders like Harivilas. Lets expose "the real reason" the post-1977 GBC's program shuns, bans, harasses, sues, if not beats and assassinates us dissenters, they want to have their debauchees sitting in their seat of Srila Vyasadeva, God's successors, and Jesus -- as their messiahs. And they are currently spending $20 million dollars in India to "prove in court" that Krishna's successors are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children.
Lets help these victims expose these rats, of course even rats are more advanced than Harivilas's acharyas since rats do not engage in illicit sex with men women and children, we are giving them too much credit calling them rats. We are going to write a cover letter and post it later. ys pd]
BY: CONCERNED DEVOTEE
The following letter was sent to Pratibha Somaiya, Prema Dhatri, the Temple President of ISKCON Phoenix in Arizona. It was penned by the Vice-president and co-founder of the South Asian Bar Association of Arizona (SABA AZ). The letter discusses the continued battle and methodology by the present temple management and GBC Hari Vilas to ban certain members of the temple congregation.
This summation letter of legal findings, which was sent to temple presidents and GBC members around the world, was countered by an email from Badrinarayan (also below). The letter from SABA offers quotes found in court records, while Badrinarayan dasa seems to hope that his rebuttal will be accepted and beloved on face value, and on the integrity of his own "word" and the words of fellow co-worker North American GBCs.
The text of the letter from the South Asian Bar Association of Arizona follows. A copy of the document on letterhead can be downloaded here in PDF.
THE SOUTH ASIAN BAR ASSOCIATION OF ARIZONA
3131 East Camelback Road
Suite 350
Phoenix, AZ 85016
(602) 808-5540
ArizonaSABA@Gmail.com
February 18, 2014
Mrs. Pratibha Somaiya
ISKCON Phoenix
100 S. Weber Drive
Chandler, Arizona
Dear Mrs. Somaiya,
The South Asian Bar Association of Arizona ("SABA-AZ") is an organization that advocates for the legal interests of South Asian communities in our state. Founded in 2008, our membership consists primarily of attorneys of South Asian origin. Among the many communities we are committed to representing are those who practice the Hindu faith.
We write this letter to express our views as practitioners of law and members of the South Asian community at large. We do so not only to articulate the South Asian legal community's perspective, but also to respond to a specific effort by you to invoke the powers of the legal system that we do not believe are in the best interests of justice or the community that we represent and often defend.
The Action Against Alleged Harassment
You are the president of the local chapter of the International Society of Krishna Consciousness, which runs a Hindu temple in Chandler, Arizona. The temple is supported at least in part by charity and donations from members of the community. Because of reports of legal actions brought to our attention, we undertook a full review of the court filings and exhibits filed in a matter captioned as Somaiya v. Misra, Chandler Municipal Court (Ariz.) Cause No. LC2013-000383-001. The action commenced with a petition for injunction against harassment against a member of the temple. The trial court held a hearing on February 13, 2013, at which you were represented by counsel but the defendant was not, and issued the injunction as requested.
An attorney, David Bodney, was ultimately retained to represent the defendant in an appeal to the Arizona Superior Court's Lower Court of Appeals division. Mr. Bodney is well-respected for his expertise on matters of free speech and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. His appeal was successful. The Court stated that you "did not substantiate" your accusation that the defendant had allegedly stolen food from the temple. The Court further declared that the accusation that he took a blessed garland from the temple was meritless. The Court noted, as do we, the lack of due process and lack of respect for procedural fairness that had taken place in the lower court proceeding. It concluded its lengthy opinion by reversing the judgment of the Chandler Municipal Court. The petition for an injunction was therefore rejected.
Threats of Criminal Prosecution: Diwali, one of the most important festivals and holidays of the Hindu faith, was celebrated at the temple on Sunday, November 3, 2013. It is widely accepted and known among followers of Hinduism that all people are free to participate in any such celebration at a Hindu temple. Centuries of tradition and cultural practices among Hindus support the notion that such festivals are open, public affairs. Yet, the Chandler Police Department was called to the temple in the midst of the celebration on November 3, in yet another unsuccessful effort to invoke the legal system against members of the community. We understand that Chandler police officers arrived at the scene but opted not to enter the premises in an effort to "expel" anyone, due to the large numbers of people present.
The efforts to invoke the law and law enforcement against temple members then continued. On November 8, 2013, the temple's attorney sent a letter on his law firm's letterhead to multiple individuals and devotees, this time invoking the criminal law of trespass. This letter stated that any recipient of the letter was on "formal notice" of "denied access to the Hare Krishna Temple located on the Private Property." It cited Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 13-1501 to 13-1504 as the basis for this statement. These statutes govern the law of criminal trespass in Arizona. Section 13-1504, cited by your attorney, concerns criminal trespass in the first degree and defines it as a potential Class 6 felony crime. In Arizona, a Class 6 felony crime carries with it the threat of up to two years of imprisonment. See Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 13-702(D).
Our Position
SABA-AZ is concerned by the attempted legal actions taken against members of the community. Those legal actions include the meritless action filed in Chandler Municipal Court, the frivolous attempt to involve the Chandler Police Department on November 3, 2013, and the offensive November 8, 2013 letter authored by an attorney for the temple at your direction.
The strongly-worded appellate ruling issued by the Arizona Superior Court speaks for itself. The petition for an injunction against harassment was found to be meritless and violated the constitutional rights of a temple member. Broadly speaking, we find the attempt to invoke the injunctive powers of a court of law to resolve your personal differences with that member to be inappropriate, in light of your position of authority as the leader of a Hindu temple.
As to the specific accusations leveled in that action, we agree with the appellate court in finding these to be inappropriate topics on which to invoke the legal system. The temple's attorney attempted to persuade the Court that food prepared at the temple was your personal property, and that the person eating it as a devotee of the temple constituted the crime of "theft." Such accusations run contrary to the spirit in which prasadam is offered to persons after temple prayers. He also attempted to persuade the Court that the member had stolen a blessed garland, despite the unequivocal testimony of multiple witnesses who disagreed with this allegation. We believe that the taking of an item such as a sanctified garland should not expose a member of the community to accusations of the crime of theft.
Perhaps most concerning to us was the accusation that the member did not donate "much" to the temple. It is apparent from court records that the target of this litigation spent considerable time at the temple, and that he spent that time furthering the daily functions of the temple in different ways. The notion that a person is exposed to court actions against "harassment" on grounds that he chooses to come to the temple, even though he does not provide what someone considers to be sufficient amounts of donations, is contrary to the spirit in which Hindu temples should be available to the public at large. At a minimum, a person should not be exposed to legal action based on the amount he or she chooses to donate to a Hindu temple.
The effort to involve the Chandler Police Department, including the letter from the temple's attorney threatening multiple devotees with charges of criminal trespass, is another legal tactic to which we object. Arizona's system of justice, including its law enforcement officials, provides both the temple and its devotees with safety and security in times of need. It is our understanding, for example, that officers from the Chandler Police Department provided extra security for temple devotees in the aftermath of the Wisconsin Sikh Temple shooting tragedy in August of 2012. We therefore disagree with any attempt to waste the valuable resources of Arizona's law enforcement community for the purpose of resolving your personal disputes with members of the community. That you would do so during the auspicious occasion of a Diwali celebration is particularly disturbing.
CONCLUSION
It is our hope that these inappropriate attempts to invoke the legal system against members of the community are not repeated again. As to the criminal trespass notice your lawyer sent to multiple individuals, we call on you to withdraw it. While it is not our desire to interfere with the inner workings of this or any other temple, we do not believe that suing temple devotees and having attorneys send threatening letters to individuals is a constructive method of resolving disputes or disagreements. Above all, we believe that temples should be forums for the community at which all citizens are welcomed, regardless of their political or other views, as long as such views are expressed in a respectful and civil manner. If our organization can facilitate in mediating a peaceful discussion, where disagreements can be aired and resolutions hopefully reached, please let me know and we will offer a volunteer or volunteers to do so.
Sincerely,
Neil Singh
Vice-President and Co-Founder, SABA-AZ
Ph: (602) 252-1080
cc: Don Fletcher, Esq. (Lake & Cobb, P.L.C., Tempe, AZ)
Hari Vilas Das (Vedic Cultural Center, Sammamish, WA)
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Following is the email from Badrinarayana dasa:
Threats of Criminal Prosecution: Diwali, one of the most important festivals and holidays of the Hindu faith, was celebrated at the temple on Sunday, November 3, 2013. It is widely accepted and known among followers of Hinduism that all people are free to participate in any such celebration at a Hindu temple. Centuries of tradition and cultural practices among Hindus support the notion that such festivals are open, public affairs. Yet, the Chandler Police Department was called to the temple in the midst of the celebration on November 3, in yet another unsuccessful effort to invoke the legal system against members of the community. We understand that Chandler police officers arrived at the scene but opted not to enter the premises in an effort to "expel" anyone, due to the large numbers of people present.
The efforts to invoke the law and law enforcement against temple members then continued. On November 8, 2013, the temple's attorney sent a letter on his law firm's letterhead to multiple individuals and devotees, this time invoking the criminal law of trespass. This letter stated that any recipient of the letter was on "formal notice" of "denied access to the Hare Krishna Temple located on the Private Property." It cited Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 13-1501 to 13-1504 as the basis for this statement. These statutes govern the law of criminal trespass in Arizona. Section 13-1504, cited by your attorney, concerns criminal trespass in the first degree and defines it as a potential Class 6 felony crime. In Arizona, a Class 6 felony crime carries with it the threat of up to two years of imprisonment. See Ariz. Rev. Stat. § 13-702(D).
Our Position
SABA-AZ is concerned by the attempted legal actions taken against members of the community. Those legal actions include the meritless action filed in Chandler Municipal Court, the frivolous attempt to involve the Chandler Police Department on November 3, 2013, and the offensive November 8, 2013 letter authored by an attorney for the temple at your direction.
The strongly-worded appellate ruling issued by the Arizona Superior Court speaks for itself. The petition for an injunction against harassment was found to be meritless and violated the constitutional rights of a temple member. Broadly speaking, we find the attempt to invoke the injunctive powers of a court of law to resolve your personal differences with that member to be inappropriate, in light of your position of authority as the leader of a Hindu temple.
As to the specific accusations leveled in that action, we agree with the appellate court in finding these to be inappropriate topics on which to invoke the legal system. The temple's attorney attempted to persuade the Court that food prepared at the temple was your personal property, and that the person eating it as a devotee of the temple constituted the crime of "theft." Such accusations run contrary to the spirit in which prasadam is offered to persons after temple prayers. He also attempted to persuade the Court that the member had stolen a blessed garland, despite the unequivocal testimony of multiple witnesses who disagreed with this allegation. We believe that the taking of an item such as a sanctified garland should not expose a member of the community to accusations of the crime of theft.
Perhaps most concerning to us was the accusation that the member did not donate "much" to the temple. It is apparent from court records that the target of this litigation spent considerable time at the temple, and that he spent that time furthering the daily functions of the temple in different ways. The notion that a person is exposed to court actions against "harassment" on grounds that he chooses to come to the temple, even though he does not provide what someone considers to be sufficient amounts of donations, is contrary to the spirit in which Hindu temples should be available to the public at large. At a minimum, a person should not be exposed to legal action based on the amount he or she chooses to donate to a Hindu temple.
The effort to involve the Chandler Police Department, including the letter from the temple's attorney threatening multiple devotees with charges of criminal trespass, is another legal tactic to which we object. Arizona's system of justice, including its law enforcement officials, provides both the temple and its devotees with safety and security in times of need. It is our understanding, for example, that officers from the Chandler Police Department provided extra security for temple devotees in the aftermath of the Wisconsin Sikh Temple shooting tragedy in August of 2012. We therefore disagree with any attempt to waste the valuable resources of Arizona's law enforcement community for the purpose of resolving your personal disputes with members of the community. That you would do so during the auspicious occasion of a Diwali celebration is particularly disturbing.
CONCLUSION
It is our hope that these inappropriate attempts to invoke the legal system against members of the community are not repeated again. As to the criminal trespass notice your lawyer sent to multiple individuals, we call on you to withdraw it. While it is not our desire to interfere with the inner workings of this or any other temple, we do not believe that suing temple devotees and having attorneys send threatening letters to individuals is a constructive method of resolving disputes or disagreements. Above all, we believe that temples should be forums for the community at which all citizens are welcomed, regardless of their political or other views, as long as such views are expressed in a respectful and civil manner. If our organization can facilitate in mediating a peaceful discussion, where disagreements can be aired and resolutions hopefully reached, please let me know and we will offer a volunteer or volunteers to do so.
Sincerely,
Neil Singh
Vice-President and Co-Founder, SABA-AZ
Ph: (602) 252-1080
cc: Don Fletcher, Esq. (Lake & Cobb, P.L.C., Tempe, AZ)
Hari Vilas Das (Vedic Cultural Center, Sammamish, WA)
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Following is the email from Badrinarayana dasa:
Badrinarayan dasa to me, basu.ghosh.acb., ramabhadra, carudas, surapal, whogle, prthusrava, btillman108, naikatma.acbsp, ranjit.acbsp, syamtkg, Larry, kirtiraj1952, Bhava, rosen108, padyavali.acbsp, Pancaratna, Sikhi, golokanandapri., tustakrsna, Jagdish, info, rvigrahadas, Yogi, gopal211
Hare Krishna. For the record. the letter that was attached to this message is inaccurate and unfair. Premadhatri mataji and her husband Radha Madhava prabhu, have repeatedly manifest the mood of "trnad api sunicena" while being mercilessly slandered and harassed. We are very fortunate to have such sincere and saintly devotees in charge of ISKCON's Phoenix temple.
For the full and fair story, please contact Nityananda prabhu, the chair of the North American GBC, or Kuladri prabhu, ISKCON's compliance officer. They have both been dealing with this situation closely.
Nityananda prabhu: ndasa108@gmail.com
Kuladri prabhu: kuladridas@gmail.com
Hare Krishna. For the record. the letter that was attached to this message is inaccurate and unfair. Premadhatri mataji and her husband Radha Madhava prabhu, have repeatedly manifest the mood of "trnad api sunicena" while being mercilessly slandered and harassed. We are very fortunate to have such sincere and saintly devotees in charge of ISKCON's Phoenix temple.
For the full and fair story, please contact Nityananda prabhu, the chair of the North American GBC, or Kuladri prabhu, ISKCON's compliance officer. They have both been dealing with this situation closely.
Nityananda prabhu: ndasa108@gmail.com
Kuladri prabhu: kuladridas@gmail.com
Your servant,
Badrinarayan dasa
Badrinarayan dasa
Yeah right! Please write to the bar to sue ISKCON because you are so unqualified you can't follow the principles and so envious of those who try at least that you wish Prabhupada's movement will dissolve completely.
ReplyDelete[PADA: Jeepers, where have you been? ISKCON has already dissolved, its now an association of the worship of deviants as acharyas, and that is not ISKCON. I may or may not follow anything, but one thing is for sure, I do not follow the worship of deviants as acharyas. I leave that wonderful task to you folks, ys pd
You wish ISKCON was dissolved Pee Pod.
ReplyDelete[PADA: Current official ISKCON says acharyas fall into illicit sex with men, women and children, that means they are dis-connected from Krishna. That would be your party.]
And just by this desire alone you will go to hell.
[PADA: Shastra says people who worship illicit sex as acharyas not only go to hell, they go to the worst regions of hell. That would be your party.
You have broken off your relationship with Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna, and no one can save you.
[PADA: Krishna and Srila Prabhupada agree with me, the acharyas must be pure devotees, they do not agree with your molester acharyas program.]
You may wish to use Prabhupada as your doormat so you can wipe your sins off on him and go on sinning but it doesn't work that way if you reject his instructions to carry on the movement.
[PADA: I am saying that acharyas are not debauchees, that is the instruction.]
So you pretend the movement is dead.
[PADA: Nope, we are making new Prabhupada devotees every day, its alive and well thanks very much. The worship of debauchees program is dying, thats not my fault.]
But Prabhupada is not so stupid as to allow himself to be used in that way.
[PADA: Right, the GBC temples are empty because people are not being fooled by their bogus acharyas.]
He rejected you when you rejected ISKCON, his movement, his disciples who have remained to cooperate and serve 'till death do they part. And even after death there will be a new ISKCON in the spiritual sky. Anonymous
[PADA: Thanks but you are not quoting shastra, shastra says you promoters of false acharyas are going to the darkest and most obnoxious regions, you are talking about yourselves. ys pd