Wednesday, June 12, 2019

Hanuman Croatia Joins Vatican Style Guru Voting Program?

Make ISKCON another Vatican again?

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Hare Krishna Prabhu ji
Dandavat Pranam…

I really appreciate your videos and got to know so much about reality of ISKCON and their deviations. Actually In the beginning I just watched your one video where you condemned current gurus in ISKCON and GBC so since then I started considering that RITVIK is the best system, now recently I watched another video of yours where you are condemning RITVIK as well…

HC: Rtvik philosophy is very funny. Literally hundreds of times Srila Prabhupada was explaining in his lectures and books how parampara works. Rtviks expect us to ignore like 10% of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings so that we can establish retarded Christianity all over again. So, corrupt ISKCON gurus are not proof that the rtvik system is correct.

[PADA: Right, Hanuman Croatia says we need to worship his GBC's "2/3 show of hands" elected gurus, people like Bhakti Vikas swami. So Hanuman endorses the Vatican's style of "guru voting," while complaining the ritviks are like the Church? Even if true, that still means the ritviks worship "the Jesus of ISKCON" and not dubious "voted in" Popes. 

Why is Hanuman still promoting his "voted in guru" process, which has been rejected by most devotees as bogus. Even Kirtanananda said, gurus are not voted in, they are self-effulgent, and that is why he refused to vote in TRIPURARI SWAMI as a guru.

What is a bona fide guru parampara? BVKS is "2/3 show of hands voted in as guru" to the illicit sex with men, women and children GBC guru parampara. (A) Sometimes Hanuman says we are right, the GBC's guru process is bogus, therefore (B) we need to worship the people they vote in as gurus. Makes no sense.

We thus need to ignore 100% of Srila Prabhupada's teachings, where he says that deviants are not, were not, could not have been -- gurus. Nor are the people who promote deviant guru paramparas bona fide -- like BVKS. Did I forget to mention there was a lot of child molesting going on in the BVKS alleged guru parampara program, which caused ISKCON to declare bankrupt? 

And the Bhakti Vikas swami guru parampara has buried a known homosexual pedophile in a samadhi in the dham, and recently BVKS wrote a letter apologizing for chastising Radhanath swami, one of the persons involved in burying that deviant in the dham. We need to apologize to the people who are burying sexual predators in the dham?

"This is what we find in Srila Prabhupada's books everywhere." Nope!]  

You say that PRABHUPADA was just ordered by his spiritual master to preach but it’s not the fact though because in one conversation Srila Prabhupada says that He became Guru when his guru maharaja ordered him to be, without order no one can be guru, there is a conversation available on vedabsae as well please refer that.

Yes, Srila Prabhupada was ordered by Bhaktisiddhanta to preach. Bhaktisiddhanta never told Srila Prabhupada to become diksa guru. Order to preach includes an order to become a guru.

[PADA: Bhakti Vikas Swami's program says that "the order to preach" means, we then need to make illicit sex with men, women and children into gurus. No, a preacher is not able to absorb sins, he cannot be a diksha guru. The "order" for you to become the hospital clean up janitor is NOT ALSO an order for you to go into the brain surgery room -- and start chopping people's skulls up with a scalpel, drill and hacksaw.] 

If you have a quote where Srila Prabhupada was ordered by Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati to become diksa guru, please provide it. Suppose If I accept your points and believe that everyone is wrong so where should I Go prabhuji, because no one seems to be perfect in this Kaliyuga prabhu ji… anyone can find any fault in anyone…

[PADA: Yes Hanuman Croatia can find no quote where Srila Prabhupada says we have any ORDER to vote in conditioned souls to be diksha gurus by some GBC voting system. The order to become a diksha guru comes from the HIGHER AUTHORITIES and not mundane votes. 

Another good point, Hanuman Croatia says everyone else is wrong, except for Bhakti Vikas swami. All because BVKS is voted into the illicit sex guru program. Notice, Hanuman has no where for people to go in his program? He does not indicate what process anyone should follow, or whom they should worship as their guru? He does not even teach the basic points, that the bhogha and the disciples have to be offered to the pure devotee. Or does he even know these basic things?

Therefore his readers are left with no actual process to attain Krishna, because he tells them NOT to worship Srila Prabhupada as their diksha guru, but he does not tell them then -- who else to worship instead, except sometimes Hanuman advertises the molester guru process of BVKS?]  

HC: It doesn’t matter where you go, the first order of business is to read all Srila Prabhupada’s books. 

[PADA: OK so Hanuman Croatia says we need to read the books of what some feel is ISKCON's Jesus, but we cannot worship ISKCON's Jesus as a guru? Why are we reading the books of a person who is not even the guru we need to worship? We need to read the books of the guru, but he is not the guru?

Ooops! And the books say, we need to worship the founder of the molester guru process -- Jayapataka, or his sannyasa disciple, BVKS? Jayapataka is a founder member of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru program. Where is their parampara found in the books?]  

Original books if possible. After you read all Srila Prabhupada’s books, you will become intelligent. Then you can go wherever you want. 

[PADA: The books do not say you can go wherever you want? The books say you have to only worship SPECIFICALLY the bona fide acharya, and not a person who is voted into an illicit sex guru process like BVKS. You cannot go wherever you like, you have to take guidance from the bona fide acharya and not "anywhere you like."]

To be a stupid sheep who has to flock to some group to identify with is not a smart choice. You should be independently intelligent, otherwise, Gestapo society called ISKCON will turn you into a brainless sheep. And you will have to be “humble” and tolerate mayavadi guru Radhanath Swami and sannyasi with girlfriend Sacinandana baba.

[PADA: Wow, so the guru parampara of Bhakti Vikas swami is a violent, gestapo, if not brainless sheep society, and Hanuman is still worshiping a key member of that program as his guru?]

If you accept cheap ISKCON guru, you will be cheated and you will become enemy of Srila Prabhupada, like Sacinandana Swami disciples who are persecuting everybody who dares to repeat Srila Prabhupada’s teachings. So, the first step, read all Srila Prabhupada’s books, and let me know when you are done. And gradually you will find a few similarly minded people, but not many.

And another thing, don’t associate with retards who eat ice-cream, crack jokes with girls all the time and who defend corrupt, Gestapo GBC regime. And don’t associate with retarded rtvik Christians either.

Those who are intelligent in this material world are rare, the majority of people are retarded. If you want to be intelligent, you will not have many friends. Remain loyal to Srila Prabhupada and stay away from sahajiyas, mayavadis, retards, girl hunters, muscle builders, mushroom eaters, silent corporate ISKCON Brahmanas and all other types of rascals who are destroying Srila Prabhupada’s legacy and in the same time pretend to be his followers.

Please guide me on this prabhu ji…

Hare Krishna

ys Hanuman das

[PADA: Notice that Hanuman Croatia still encourages neophytes to act in the capacity of diksha gurus and absorbs sins, after Srila Prabhupada said this is forbidden.

Yes. I remember when Srila Prabhupada chastised us in India a number of times, telling us we neophytes cannot allow people to touch our feet -- or we would be acting as diksha gurus and absorbing their sins, which would make is get sick, fall down, or both. He even stopped a program once when he saw his followers were getting their feet touched and he said the same thing, you cannot take sins like this, because -- you will get sick, fall down, or both. 

So the neophytes have to take considerable care not to take a post where they will be overwhelmed by accepting the sins of others, it will check their progress, and worse, it can cause them to get sick, fall down, or both. Of course some of them died early from this process. So we asked Srila Prabhupada what to do, and he said touch their heads and give back the karma, even if you are a brahmacari and you have to touch the head of a woman. He has been very emphatic on this point and its a fact, people who take sins prematurely can have major problems. Not sure why people in a woman body could bypass this instruction? That is why he wanted us neophytes to be representatives or preachers, and not artificially take the post of parampara links. ys pd]

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