Thursday, November 28, 2013

Sannyasi Should Not Be Given any Money (Really!)


  1. Dear Prabhus, pamho agt Srila Prabhupada - basically the ongoing discussion on what is genuine guru-tattva has divided the followers of Lord Caitanya's Sankirtan movement into multiple camps, competing mini missions. Some are more efficient in spreading the Holy name and some are less. Some are satisfied to maintain their temple, others campaign for uplifting suffering humanity in this dark age of kali-yuga.

    As Prabhupada often mentioned, in this age of kali-yuga at one point people will be so desperate and disgusted that they simply run away. In this way presently almost 216 million people, or 3.15% of the world population out of suffering left their home trying to find better condition somewhere else.

    Present need / requirement is spiritual projects where people find shelter. Therefore Prabhupada instructed that Vaishnavas first of all create one family, form a governing body and, "conduct missionary activities cooperatively". To install flourishing spiritual projects like farms and temples requires that all devotees work together.

    Competing mini missions we experienced already, they won't succeed at the ultimate end. So first of all devotees have to understand the present need of human society and install temples, farms, villages everywhere. Prabhupada: "So my Guru Maharaja's idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self-effulgent acarya would be automatically selected." Acarya will be selected automatically.

  2. Hare Rama,
    pamho AGTSP

    So how do you want to create an united mission/Sankirtan Movement with hunderts of bogus Gurus who all demand to be worshiped as good as God, while engaging in sinful activities or are "Brahmins" with envy to Srila Prabhupada.

    First of all the root cause need to be removed: Nobody is Diksha Guru other than Srila Prabhupada as per the July 9th 1977 letter, then automatically everything will be united under one Acharya(Srila Prabhupada).

    "So my Guru Maharaja's idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self-effulgent acarya would be automatically selected."
    Yes Srila Prabhupada said this, but later he gave the Ritvik Order in the July 9th 1977 letter. So any sincere person will accept the July 9th 1977 letter, but since 99% of teh Sankirtan Movement want to get cheated or are simply mislead they follow the bogus Gurus.

    You can not quote one quote of Srila Prabhupada that was later nullified by his final order / Ritvik Order:

    So the problem is very simple, people want to be Guru themselves, they do not want to follow the process of Krishna, that only his pure and empowered devotee can be DIksha Guru and that is ONLY Srila Prabhupada.

    Greetings, I hope you realize that the Guru Issue is the root cause of the fragmentation of teh Sankirtan Movement. As far as I studied Srila Prabhupada's letter in the beginning he was thinking to turn Jaggai and Maddhai into pure devotees, but later he realized his disciples were not even qualified for Sannyasa and suspended Sannyasa and gave teh Ritvik Order through the July 9th 1977 letter.


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