WYATT: In the beginning you were simply exposing the nefarious goings-on in Iskcon by the GBC, Gurus and their supporters. After that you included other God brothers of your outside of Iskcon, then went further and included Gaudiya Math and Srila Prabhupada's God brothers etc.
[PADA: Wyatt, it seems you have no answer for our original question to you, why did the bogus 11 GBC's gurus get all sorts of support from folks like Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, BV and BP Puri etc. When ISKCON sent food over to Narayana Maharaja he said, I cannot eat food from these ISKCON gurus because -- they poisoned their guru and they may poison me. That means even NM ended up saying, PADA is correct. Even he surrendered to our version.
As slow as he was, he eventually woke up and said, hey guess what? Puranjana is 100 percent correct, these gurus are rascals. That means we have had to wake folks like NM up to the poison issue. If these folks end up agreeing with us, that means they were in illusion and we had to break down their illusion.]
*** But it now seems just exposing them is not good enough. You want to censure, denounce, condemn, attack, lambaste, vilify, make fun of just about anyone whom you think does not conform to your understanding of Krsna Consciousness or follow that bogus ritvik ideology of yours. You have become so obsessively fixated in your work in exposing them to the point that rational thinking has become irrational and somewhat delusional. Sri Krsna says that, " For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends; but for one who has failed to do so, his very mind will be the greatest enemy. Instead of advancing towards the goal of Krsna Consciousness you seem to be doing opposite. Think about it. "A person ...
[PADA: I have thought about it.
(A) We said in 1978 that there was no guru appointment, almost everyone else at the time said --- that is foolish and crazy -- these 11 are gurus, but today there are easily 100,000s of people who agree with us. Sridhara Maharaja said the 11 were appointed as gurus, because he never bothered to study the issue. And then we said, the 11 were only appointed as ritviks. And today, easily thousands of people agree with us, and you and your ilk have failed to show -- what else was ordered. As you folks have failed since 1978?
(B) We also said there is a molesting program, almost everyone at the time said -- that's nuts and crazy, but today millions of people agree with us on that issue.
(C) We said there is a poison complaint, almost everyone -- at the time -- (including Narayana Maharaja and even many of our friends) said -- thats nuts, crazy, idiotic, offensive, but today maybe 10,000 devotees agree with us, and even Narayana Maharaja and Sridhara Maharaja people are now saying, hey that is right, the people we said are gurus are apparently -- poison conspirators. PADA is 100 percent correct.
(D) We said there is a banning, beating and assassinating program, and even as early as 1980 the police, FBI and media all started to agree with us. Today, easily hundreds of millions of people have read all about these guru clowns in the media, and they all agree with us -- that these people are maybe criminals and fools, but they are not gurus. And we could go on here, but Wyatt it looks to us like only you and a few other isolated folks like you disagree with us at this point?
If you folks have a better process and program, what is it? Our Prabhupadanuga devotees here just bought an 80 acre parcel here to build a temple. Where is your temple? Preaching? Devotees? Anything?
Even Prahlad das told our associate he has no association and he is mainly living alone. Prahlad is so desperate for association, he has to add fools like Bhakta das to his group. And his self-advertised associates have to promote Bhakta das on their web sites. Folks like Pancali are doing the same thing essentially, she is burning up her bridges with the other ritivks, and she is frying out the few best friends she has. And she complains of the same thing, she has no association. These folks all criticize our program, but they have no alternate one?
So you guys are apparently birds of a feather? You complain you have no association, and you are expert at criticizing other programs like ours, but meanwhile, you have none of your own? You have failed to even tell us, what is the better path? And where are you making that process work? Example is better than precept, show us how to do better, and we will do it. Our associates in India just now printed a nice book of Srila Prabhupada quotes. Our associates are doing nice preaching things like this every day. What are you sour grapes folks doing? At all?
Just do something, and send us the good news. And we are predicting many more and more good things happening in 2014. Our blog hits are up 100 percent from December of last year, many other Prabhupadanuga sites are getting way more hits, and that means more people are reading our stuff, and working with us, and agreeing with us. Example is better than precept, show us "something else" that works better to promote Srila Prabhupada, and show us its making headway, and we will advertise it for you.
You and your ilk never do that, its just one more big bellyache and sour grapes after another from you folks. Wyatt its now 2014, are you and your ilk going to spend your whole life bellyaching forever? Try to make a resolution to move forward in 2014, we are already doing that and would welcome you folks to join with us, and do the same. Our Prabhupadanuga process is making good progress, and we would welcome you folks to work with that program, and if you cannot cooperate with us, then do some better program in 2014. ys pd]
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