RE: Mahanidhi swami
A FEW RECENT COMMENTS (with our responses):
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Sahajiya sahajiya sahajiya sahajiya -why dont you explain how Ramesh Baba is a sahajiya on:
Mahanidhi scandal expands (other ISKCON GBC gurus implicated)
Define " sahajiya" and how it applies to Ramesh baba. a picture of him with a shawl is shown to prove it, though even mahaprabhu and nityananda would reenact pastimes dressed as women. Also Dhanurdar did not smash anyones teeth, it was by raghunath "swami" on:
ISKCON's gurus and their Ramesh Baba sahajiya club
[PADA: OK, apparently Ramesh Baba has been supporting the concept that these GBC folks (like Mahanidhi swami) are some sort of parampara gurus, that is sahajiya for starters. Just look at Mahanidhi swami, he is not a guru and he never was. Srila Prabhupada said in Janurary of 1977 that these people like Mahanidhi are not even fit for sannyasa, what to speak of guru.
If they are all visiting with Ramesh Baba, that means (at least apparently) he is supporting their deviations that they are some sort of acharyas. Where has Ramesh Baba came out and said, they are not fit for sannyasa because -- Srila Prabhupada said that? We have not heard that he is protesting these false gurus?
As for sannyasas dressing like women, this is called sahajiya by Srila Prabhupada. Its not his process.
Yes, other sects do that, and these sects are criticized by Srila Prabhupada. Apart from that, when ISKCON children were being starved, beaten, molested and so on, the leaders were sitting around having "Rasika talks" with Narayan Maharaja. When children are suffering, is there not a more important issue to discuss?
And at that time, NM said we were "ritvik poison" -- because we were saying these children are being neglected and treated badly? Sorry, mis-treating devotees and children is not even sahajiya, its plain awful behavior. There are some ex-kulis who say Dhanurdara beat up some of the children who protested being molested, that's what some of them testified. ys pd]
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I remember back in 2007, I saw Mahanidhi in his house with two white female devotees and he was saying "Remember last ekadashi -- when we were up all night dancing together -- and then I became Krishna and you became Radha?" I was thinking "HOLY S**T WTF is this?????" I was shocked to see such blatant behavior on the part of a so called sannyasi.
He also was saying he is completely burned out from ISKCON and from the Gaudiya Math, which I don't blame him. I guess he just wanted more personal freedom, and cults like ISKCON / GM do not offer such freedom. Either way he didn't seem like a bad person, but he definitely told me that he no longer felt comfortable in ISKCON anymore, which I can fully understand. on:
Message from the GBC Executive Committee Re: Mahanidhi swami's Fall Down
[PADA: Well if ISKCON is not inhabitable for human beings in general, and by these leaders of ISKCON either, then how can they expect us or anyone else to live there? They have made the place un-inhabitable for even themselves, and now they wonder why it is an empty shell, a ghost town? Its a ghost town because they have made the place not fit for human / devotee habitation. Even they cannot stand the stink they have made of Krishna's house, even they have to decamp and get out of that house.]
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Their new followers greatly appreciate all these deviations because in this way they can justify that their own mood why they join ISKCON isn't exactly bhakti / Prabhupada's regs of purity. People join because they benefit financially. There is no other reason, why nobody gets it? All other devotees who are sincere were kicked out. on:
Question about ISKCON GBC "guru's" policy of "Covering Up Scandals"
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Who is this sahajija? on:
Mahanidhi Swami fall down report (8/1/13)
In response to Sorry but didn't anyone notice that apparently ISKCON gurus are secret disciples of sahajiya? Isn't that more important than poor old mahanidhi prabhu's plight? ,
[PADA: Good point, the real issue is, why is the whole institution in such a mess? Mahanidih is simply the slight bump of the tumor on the chest of the patient, inside the patient, the tumor is as big as a basketball. The real issue is that ISKCON is in such a sorry state, it allows dubious people like Mahanidhi to be its acharyas. Right on!]
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Hare Krishna, It is unfortunate! People are spitting at ISKCON and the name of the Organization which a Maha-Bhagawat built is nowhere near to the glorious phase when Srila Prabhupada was here. Although Lord Caitanya''s message is to have hundreds and thousands of Guru's (Shiksha not Diksha) for preaching, but they can not supersede the position of the previous Acharya, unless authorized by him and fact is that Prabhupada never appointed anyone to be Acharya, had they acted like Ritviks (Shiksha Guru's), the scenario in this world would have been much different. on:
Message from the GBC Executive Committee Re: Mahanidhi swami's Fall Down
Mayank Saini
at 8:17 AM
I like how the GBC's "announcement" of the latest guru's fall down says "Just as we were investigating" him he came out and said he was quitting ISKCON. Like you said, didn't they have plenty of time to investigate? Sounds like what they should have said was, "We tried and tried to get him to cover up and lie as usual after he repented to his disciples publicly. That we could have pretended never happened. But once he wrote that letter we knew we had to make an announcement like this to make it look like we were trying to control him, and to make sure he stole as little as possible on his way out." on:
Question about ISKCON GBC "guru's" policy of "Covering Up Scandals"
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You claim it was well known. but you didn't know or ever say anything. this is just another of your lies. you never knew anything but you claim it was well known. everything you say is a lie. on:
Question about ISKCON GBC "guru's" policy of "Covering Up Scandals"
[PADA: We never said all the deviations were well known to us? We said the deviations were known to the GBC, because we quoted Mahanidhi's assistant who reported it to the GBC in 2003? We did not say all of this was reported to us? We said it was reported to, and was thus well known to, the leaders.
It was also known to many other folks in Vrndavana that Aindra did not get along with Mahanidhi? However it was well known, ok even to folks like us, that Mahanidhi was associated with the Babajis and he was reading from their books. We commented on that in the past. We did not lie, we simply said that we only knew some of his deviations and not all. I am not a seer of the future like yourself. Meanwhile, you have done -- nothing whatsoever to clean up anything, at least we are doing something. Are you the same people who said we were lying about the child molesting, and that is how it was aided and abetted?]
Anonymous
at 8:11 AM
we should be very careful about loosely throwing around the term "sahajiya". ramesh baba is a very saintly brijibasi sadhu. he has been residing in the holy land of varsana dhama as a simple ascetic renunciate for over 55 years. he is very pure in his character and is constantly absorbed in thoughts of radha and krishna. yes, i agree that we should not try to immitate the brijabasis, and we.probably shouldn't associate with them to closely. however, we definately.should not commit vaishnava apparadha against them. please dont simply classify.this wonderl brijibasi as a sahajiya. here is a nice bio about ramesh baba (aka radha charan das babaji): http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/Gurus/Ramesh.html. ys, sevananda das on
ISKCON's gurus and their Ramesh Baba sahajiya club
[PADA: Right, Bon Mahararaja's cult. Srila Prabhupada said he is bogus.]
Anonymous
on 8/3/13
Hare Krsna. Please stop this nonsense. Mahanidhi Swami is a great soul. Srila Prabhupada initiated his disciples who were 18 ant 19 and gave them sanyas innitiation. Srila Prabhupada took this chance. He wanted to spread Krsna Consciousness. He knew that some of them were going to fall as in the case of Rishi Kumar. There is no fall down in KC. Mahanidhi Swami is light years ahead then most of us. His realization are so deep. Krsna says in the BG 2:60 Indriyani Pramathini Haranti Prasabham Manah. The senses are so strong and impetuous, O Arjuna, that they forcibly carry away the mind even of a man of discrimination who is endeavoring to control them. Like when we go to war some of our comrades gets wounded. We dont leave them. We dont disown them. In fact we help them. We bring them back to our tents. We all are fighting against maya. ys Narottam das thakur das. on
Mahanidhi Swami fall down report (8/1/13)
[OK But Mahanidhi said he was a guru and not a neophyte who can fall down.]
Anonymous
on 8/3/13
The case of Mahanidhi now is public, but how many "sannyasis", "gurus" are not reported, hidden? How easy is be sannyasi and guru". I heard about a "sannyasi" from Venezuela, and now "new guru", who is addict, enjoy watching porno. He was discovered years ago in Costa Rica, ISKCON farm, keeping files in his laptop containing heavy pornography. Devotees from this farm saw him enjoying porno. And now is "guru"? How is possible? OMG! on
Mahanidhi Swami fall down report (8/1/13)
PADA: Thanks to the Bhakta Das / Swarupa Hebel / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad group, who just re-sent me their video (as a comment) glorifying Bhakta das (William G Benedict), a person who wants to re-establish Radhanatha swami as the new mega-acharya of ISKCON. Yep, these people want to have the Bhakta Das / Radhanatha program of -- "child molesters (like Kirtanananda) buried in the holy dham," so they can do parikrama around his dead corpse. The above group opposes us because we want to CLEAN UP the holy dham of these terrible dham-aparadha offenses.
Srila Prabhupada told us, we cannot live in Radha Kunda, bathe in Radha Kunda, associate with the babajis in Radha Kunda, and so on and so forth. We want to see the holy dham of Vrndavana protected and respected, whereas this Prahlad group of people wants to see the dham contaminated with the worship of child molesters in "samadhis." These folks cannot wait to go and join Bhakta das and Radhanath by dancing around the dead corpse of a deviant in the holy dham. Even our karmi friends say, how sick are these people? They want to see a child molester buried in your religion's holy land, and they are working with the people who are promoting that program?
We are sorry but your Bhakta das / Radhanatha program is not only connected to burying Kirtanananda in the holy dham, but also connected to the cover of up Mahanidhi swami's antics, and connected to the murder of Sulochana, and so many other crimes and deviations, we cannot count them. And this group wants to keep Radhanath swami in the seat of acharya of ISKCON? It amazes us that these people even think for one moment they are going to revive the New Vrndavana MAFIA? Sorry, that will never happen. Dream on! ys pd
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A FEW RECENT COMMENTS (with our responses):
=============================
Sahajiya sahajiya sahajiya sahajiya -why dont you explain how Ramesh Baba is a sahajiya on:
Mahanidhi scandal expands (other ISKCON GBC gurus implicated)
Define " sahajiya" and how it applies to Ramesh baba. a picture of him with a shawl is shown to prove it, though even mahaprabhu and nityananda would reenact pastimes dressed as women. Also Dhanurdar did not smash anyones teeth, it was by raghunath "swami" on:
ISKCON's gurus and their Ramesh Baba sahajiya club
[PADA: OK, apparently Ramesh Baba has been supporting the concept that these GBC folks (like Mahanidhi swami) are some sort of parampara gurus, that is sahajiya for starters. Just look at Mahanidhi swami, he is not a guru and he never was. Srila Prabhupada said in Janurary of 1977 that these people like Mahanidhi are not even fit for sannyasa, what to speak of guru.
If they are all visiting with Ramesh Baba, that means (at least apparently) he is supporting their deviations that they are some sort of acharyas. Where has Ramesh Baba came out and said, they are not fit for sannyasa because -- Srila Prabhupada said that? We have not heard that he is protesting these false gurus?
As for sannyasas dressing like women, this is called sahajiya by Srila Prabhupada. Its not his process.
Yes, other sects do that, and these sects are criticized by Srila Prabhupada. Apart from that, when ISKCON children were being starved, beaten, molested and so on, the leaders were sitting around having "Rasika talks" with Narayan Maharaja. When children are suffering, is there not a more important issue to discuss?
And at that time, NM said we were "ritvik poison" -- because we were saying these children are being neglected and treated badly? Sorry, mis-treating devotees and children is not even sahajiya, its plain awful behavior. There are some ex-kulis who say Dhanurdara beat up some of the children who protested being molested, that's what some of them testified. ys pd]
===================================
I remember back in 2007, I saw Mahanidhi in his house with two white female devotees and he was saying "Remember last ekadashi -- when we were up all night dancing together -- and then I became Krishna and you became Radha?" I was thinking "HOLY S**T WTF is this?????" I was shocked to see such blatant behavior on the part of a so called sannyasi.
He also was saying he is completely burned out from ISKCON and from the Gaudiya Math, which I don't blame him. I guess he just wanted more personal freedom, and cults like ISKCON / GM do not offer such freedom. Either way he didn't seem like a bad person, but he definitely told me that he no longer felt comfortable in ISKCON anymore, which I can fully understand. on:
Message from the GBC Executive Committee Re: Mahanidhi swami's Fall Down
[PADA: Well if ISKCON is not inhabitable for human beings in general, and by these leaders of ISKCON either, then how can they expect us or anyone else to live there? They have made the place un-inhabitable for even themselves, and now they wonder why it is an empty shell, a ghost town? Its a ghost town because they have made the place not fit for human / devotee habitation. Even they cannot stand the stink they have made of Krishna's house, even they have to decamp and get out of that house.]
==========================================
Their new followers greatly appreciate all these deviations because in this way they can justify that their own mood why they join ISKCON isn't exactly bhakti / Prabhupada's regs of purity. People join because they benefit financially. There is no other reason, why nobody gets it? All other devotees who are sincere were kicked out. on:
Question about ISKCON GBC "guru's" policy of "Covering Up Scandals"
=======================================
Who is this sahajija? on:
Mahanidhi Swami fall down report (8/1/13)
In response to Sorry but didn't anyone notice that apparently ISKCON gurus are secret disciples of sahajiya? Isn't that more important than poor old mahanidhi prabhu's plight? ,
[PADA: Good point, the real issue is, why is the whole institution in such a mess? Mahanidih is simply the slight bump of the tumor on the chest of the patient, inside the patient, the tumor is as big as a basketball. The real issue is that ISKCON is in such a sorry state, it allows dubious people like Mahanidhi to be its acharyas. Right on!]
==========================================
Hare Krishna, It is unfortunate! People are spitting at ISKCON and the name of the Organization which a Maha-Bhagawat built is nowhere near to the glorious phase when Srila Prabhupada was here. Although Lord Caitanya''s message is to have hundreds and thousands of Guru's (Shiksha not Diksha) for preaching, but they can not supersede the position of the previous Acharya, unless authorized by him and fact is that Prabhupada never appointed anyone to be Acharya, had they acted like Ritviks (Shiksha Guru's), the scenario in this world would have been much different. on:
Message from the GBC Executive Committee Re: Mahanidhi swami's Fall Down
Mayank Saini
at 8:17 AM
I like how the GBC's "announcement" of the latest guru's fall down says "Just as we were investigating" him he came out and said he was quitting ISKCON. Like you said, didn't they have plenty of time to investigate? Sounds like what they should have said was, "We tried and tried to get him to cover up and lie as usual after he repented to his disciples publicly. That we could have pretended never happened. But once he wrote that letter we knew we had to make an announcement like this to make it look like we were trying to control him, and to make sure he stole as little as possible on his way out." on:
Question about ISKCON GBC "guru's" policy of "Covering Up Scandals"
=======================================
You claim it was well known. but you didn't know or ever say anything. this is just another of your lies. you never knew anything but you claim it was well known. everything you say is a lie. on:
Question about ISKCON GBC "guru's" policy of "Covering Up Scandals"
[PADA: We never said all the deviations were well known to us? We said the deviations were known to the GBC, because we quoted Mahanidhi's assistant who reported it to the GBC in 2003? We did not say all of this was reported to us? We said it was reported to, and was thus well known to, the leaders.
It was also known to many other folks in Vrndavana that Aindra did not get along with Mahanidhi? However it was well known, ok even to folks like us, that Mahanidhi was associated with the Babajis and he was reading from their books. We commented on that in the past. We did not lie, we simply said that we only knew some of his deviations and not all. I am not a seer of the future like yourself. Meanwhile, you have done -- nothing whatsoever to clean up anything, at least we are doing something. Are you the same people who said we were lying about the child molesting, and that is how it was aided and abetted?]
Anonymous
at 8:11 AM
we should be very careful about loosely throwing around the term "sahajiya". ramesh baba is a very saintly brijibasi sadhu. he has been residing in the holy land of varsana dhama as a simple ascetic renunciate for over 55 years. he is very pure in his character and is constantly absorbed in thoughts of radha and krishna. yes, i agree that we should not try to immitate the brijabasis, and we.probably shouldn't associate with them to closely. however, we definately.should not commit vaishnava apparadha against them. please dont simply classify.this wonderl brijibasi as a sahajiya. here is a nice bio about ramesh baba (aka radha charan das babaji): http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/Gurus/Ramesh.html. ys, sevananda das on
ISKCON's gurus and their Ramesh Baba sahajiya club
[PADA: Right, Bon Mahararaja's cult. Srila Prabhupada said he is bogus.]
Anonymous
on 8/3/13
Hare Krsna. Please stop this nonsense. Mahanidhi Swami is a great soul. Srila Prabhupada initiated his disciples who were 18 ant 19 and gave them sanyas innitiation. Srila Prabhupada took this chance. He wanted to spread Krsna Consciousness. He knew that some of them were going to fall as in the case of Rishi Kumar. There is no fall down in KC. Mahanidhi Swami is light years ahead then most of us. His realization are so deep. Krsna says in the BG 2:60 Indriyani Pramathini Haranti Prasabham Manah. The senses are so strong and impetuous, O Arjuna, that they forcibly carry away the mind even of a man of discrimination who is endeavoring to control them. Like when we go to war some of our comrades gets wounded. We dont leave them. We dont disown them. In fact we help them. We bring them back to our tents. We all are fighting against maya. ys Narottam das thakur das. on
Mahanidhi Swami fall down report (8/1/13)
[OK But Mahanidhi said he was a guru and not a neophyte who can fall down.]
Anonymous
on 8/3/13
The case of Mahanidhi now is public, but how many "sannyasis", "gurus" are not reported, hidden? How easy is be sannyasi and guru". I heard about a "sannyasi" from Venezuela, and now "new guru", who is addict, enjoy watching porno. He was discovered years ago in Costa Rica, ISKCON farm, keeping files in his laptop containing heavy pornography. Devotees from this farm saw him enjoying porno. And now is "guru"? How is possible? OMG! on
Mahanidhi Swami fall down report (8/1/13)
PADA: Thanks to the Bhakta Das / Swarupa Hebel / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad group, who just re-sent me their video (as a comment) glorifying Bhakta das (William G Benedict), a person who wants to re-establish Radhanatha swami as the new mega-acharya of ISKCON. Yep, these people want to have the Bhakta Das / Radhanatha program of -- "child molesters (like Kirtanananda) buried in the holy dham," so they can do parikrama around his dead corpse. The above group opposes us because we want to CLEAN UP the holy dham of these terrible dham-aparadha offenses.
Srila Prabhupada told us, we cannot live in Radha Kunda, bathe in Radha Kunda, associate with the babajis in Radha Kunda, and so on and so forth. We want to see the holy dham of Vrndavana protected and respected, whereas this Prahlad group of people wants to see the dham contaminated with the worship of child molesters in "samadhis." These folks cannot wait to go and join Bhakta das and Radhanath by dancing around the dead corpse of a deviant in the holy dham. Even our karmi friends say, how sick are these people? They want to see a child molester buried in your religion's holy land, and they are working with the people who are promoting that program?
We are sorry but your Bhakta das / Radhanatha program is not only connected to burying Kirtanananda in the holy dham, but also connected to the cover of up Mahanidhi swami's antics, and connected to the murder of Sulochana, and so many other crimes and deviations, we cannot count them. And this group wants to keep Radhanath swami in the seat of acharya of ISKCON? It amazes us that these people even think for one moment they are going to revive the New Vrndavana MAFIA? Sorry, that will never happen. Dream on! ys pd
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