Mahanidhi scandal expands (other ISKCON GBC gurus implicated)

Dear PADA: RE: Mahanidhi swami falldown 

I Just spoke with Damodara dasa (Mahanidhi swami's first disciple) and he confirmed the news of maharaja's affair with a 30 yrs old Rasa rangini dasi (maharaja's 3rd disciple from delhi). Maharaja was caught with her red handed 2 months back. Currently Radhanath swami and Gopla krsna are in a meeting to somehow cover it all up. They will be soon going to meet mahanidhi and help him "rectify." THIS MATAJI WAS MARRIED TO A GUY AND MAHARAJA GOT HER DIVORCED FROM HIM IN 2006. This is the same mataji whom in 2003 I saw with Maharaja in his closed room in a very compromised position." 

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S Das: We show so much compassion for fallen gurus and yet we throw out and persecute those who take direct shelter of Srila Prabhupada. There is a huge difference between Madhudvisa fall down as a sannyasi and Mahanidhi's falldown as a fake Guru. He is a deceiver and deserved my condemnation as he cheated others by posing as a bona fide guru. After living in Radha Kunda for so many years you would expect some purification and instead he ran away with a seventy five years old married woman. Is there any shame? Who are we trying to protect? Am I angry? Yes I am. He is not worth my compassion because he has none toward those who took shelter of him while posing as a bona fide member of our pure Sampradaya of self realized souls.


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PADA: Srila Prabhupada told us in 1971 when we went to Vrndavana, that we cannot live in Radha kunda (we can only visit there temporarily). He said if we try to live there and do "nirjana bhajana" we will simply think of sex life, and we will not be in Radha Kunda -- but Narakah kunda (hell). 

He also firmly ordered us, that we must never associate with these Radha Kunda babajis, who live there. He said these babajis are very contaminated people with many wrong ideas. It seems Mahanidhi swami ignored all these instructions? 

Worse, some of these babajis tried to "re-initiate" (hi-jack) Srila Prabhupada's disciples -- even way back then! The babajis said we need to accept them -- to get the real rasika teachings. It is amazing that all these direct orders are being ignored. And the unfortunate result of ignoring these direct orders is: that some of the people who went to Radha Kunda to live there -- ended up -- thinking of women and sex life, just as he warned us -- would happen! Srila Prabhupada said we need to be preachers and not artificial "nirjana bhajana in Radha Kunda babajis." He is right! ys pd    

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Dear PADA: Mahanidhi swami took sannyasa initiation from Satsvarupa, and helped SDG compile the bogus GBC's "Lilamrta," -- now you know why that book has so many defects and offenses against Srila Prabhupada.

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G dasa: Until 2002 Aindra prabhu was best friends with Mahanidhi, and Aindra used to come and meet Mahanidhi every day at Radha kunda. But when Aindra came to know about Mahanidhi's so many re-initiations he questioned Mahanidhi Maharaj and they had a big argument and fight about this issue. I was there and was an eye witness to that fight. Aindra prabhu told Mahanidhi that from now onwards he will have nothing to do with him until he repents and apologizes to Srila Prabhupada.

And I was the one who built Mahanidhi swami's ashram in Radha kunda in 2001. I was going to take initiation from him, and I was his right hand secretary and assistant, but in 2003 I came to know about his affair with a woman (who was about 26 years old at the time) and so I rejected him. I then told some of the other ISKCON GBC leaders at that time about Mahanidhi's female association scandal problem, and that the woman had got a divorce to be with Mahanidhi, but no one listened. Damodar was my best friend and first disciple of Mahanidhi swami at the time.

I knew about his connection to women all along, and much, much, much more about Mahanidhi swami's problems, for example that he has taken 5 re-initiations and all the GBC in ISKCON all know about this problem, but no one wants to questions him -- as he has been built up in the first place by these iskcon leaders as ISKCON's (rasika guru) ANSWER TO NARAYAN MAHARAJ.

Worse, in 2003 I saw him make the grossest of offences when he kicked the SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM IN HIS VERANDA. And he also said the Bhagavad Gita of Srila Prabhupada contains no nectar, its dry.

[PADA: Satsvarupa wrote that as well "the more I chant, the drier it gets.]

M dasa: 5 reinitiations? WOW! Why and from whom?

G das: MAHANIDHI also gave me my so-called SIDDHA PRANALI initiaiton AND he told me to do SMARANAM and YOGA PITHA UPASANA. LOL. Mahanidhi's first re-initiation was from Narayan maharaj, then Puri maharaj, then Krsna dasa babaji of Goverdhan, then Ananta dasa pandit of Radha kunda and finally from this Rama krsnadasa babaji

T das: Oh Krsna! 

G Dasa: Mahanidhi told me, and many others in 2003, that Srila Prabhupada is not a pure devotee and he has made many mistakes, so these were all the various reasons for Mahanidhi's rejecting Srila Prabhupada as his guru. Mahanidhi also used to allow meat eaters to hear his rasa lila pastimes talks and also to read books like Govinda lila-amrita and Krsna bhava-amrita -- asta kaliya lila. Only those who had enough money could become his disciples, the rest he rejected, or he just kept them waiting for his so called causeless mercy -- which he never gave to them.

M dasa: My God Krishna! People / devotees want to be cheated really!

G Dasa: Radhanath swami called his book "The Art of Chanting," the "Bible" of ISKCON, and Sacidananda swami called this book a master piece. But I knew his book was simply a word for word translation of Ananta dasa pandit's book, which is written in Bengali.

M das: He said that Srila Prabhupada is not a pure devotees... is he completely crazy? Bible of iskcon?

G Dasa: Nearly all his books and lectures are a copy and paste of Ananta dasa pandit's books and lectures.

M dasa: What do you know about this Guru in Barsana? I forget his name. Because some of my old Iskcon friends like him very much......

G Dasa: Ramesh baba -- the guru in Barsana. He is a sahajiya. And that is why Sacinandan swami and Radhanatha dance like these sahajiyas, they follow these people.

M das: YES! Really a sahajya? because I have fear to make a appardha? Are you sure?

G Dasa: Yes fully.

M Dasa: So many of my old friends are going to him. One of his disciples teaches in UK -- how to dance like a gopi. And some stupid folks are doing it with some other friends, but its like a laughing show. But I think for him it was not only a show.......

G Dasa: This Ramesh baba is the siksha guru of Mahanidhi and "diksha guru" of Sacidananda swami, Radhantha and Lokanath swami and also Radha Govinda maharaja.

M Dasa: Please can you help me to create a nice article about " Sahajiya" and about Ramesh-Baba especially.

G Dasa: They all took re-initiation from Ramesh baba.

M dasa: Then I can help get this to many devotees ...

G Dasa: All of them got a secret re-initiation. I have many articles already written.

M dasa: PLEASE SEND ME!! Secret reinitiation ? Of Sacinandana Swami etc.?

G Dasa: Yes

W dasa: Some of our new "Friends"who have created problems within our sanga are connected to Bhakta das, who is connected to Radhanath, who is connected to Mahanidhi, who is connected with Iskcon's Gurus. Now we know the source of our "troubles."

G Dasa: Till 2002 Aindra prabhu was best friends with Mahanidhi swami, and he used to come to meet Mahanidhi every day at Radha kunda, but when Aindra came to know about Mahanidhi's so many re-initiations, he questioned maharaj and they had a big argument and fight. I was there as a witness to that fight. Aindra prabhu told Mahanidhi that from now onwards he will have nothing to do with him til he repents and apologizes to Srila Prabhupada.

W das: There is no need to canonize devotees. We have Srila Prabhupada living still in sound and the quest for "heroes" to replace Srila Prabhupada is going to always meet with disappointments, due to false shelters.

M das: But now, G Dasa Prabhu, one old friend, he is every year often in Barsana and meets with Ramesh-baba, and he told me now that Ramesh baba has not ONE disciple. He told me that Ramesh said to him that he is not a guru and he gives never initiation. What is truth now? Now he told me on phone call.

W dasa: Some may think ... Oh,we should only look for the honey and stop making offenses to Iskcon Gurus....we should hear more "Hari katha" from devotees like Mahanidhi. Now what? Those fanatics always find some other Monkey - like pretender to endorse.

G Dasa: This is why I told you, it is a secret initiation.

M das: Because G Prabhu said that Ramesh baba is the new guru of Sacinandana Swami and Radhanath swami........but an another Prabhu, my old Iskcon friend told me now that Ramesh baba gives no initiations because he said about himself, that he is not a diksa guru. What is now the truth? Because some of my old Fiskcon friends they are going every year many times to this Ramesh baba, and I wanted to know more about this Ramesh baba, because I heard that he has a great Sahajiya sect.

G Dasa: If you want to get initiation from Ramesh baba, I can make that happen. Are you ready? You just have to get into their inner circles -- just like the secret societies of the west.

M Dasa: My God....only cheating is going on.

G Dasa: Til 2003 I was a part of this inner circle, the nexus, from out side it looks that they all are in gopi bhava, but once you get in the inner circle you realize it is a horror show. Watch Radhanth, Lokanath, Sacidananda, Mahanidhi closely when they dance or do kirtan, and you will see that how closely they resemble these babajis. Very few know that just before Srila Prabhupada made these negative statements about people taking sannyasa, Mahanidhi swami had approached Srila Prabhupada for sannyasa. 

And Srila Prabhupada rejected him saying you are not qualified for sannyasa ---: SRILA PRABHUPADA : "And this kind of hypocrisy--they have taken sannyasa and mixing with woman. This is not to be allowed. If you want woman you get yourself married, live respectfully. We have no objection. But this hypocrisy should be stopped. There have been so many fallen down. First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience. And at least, we are not going to create new sannyasis. And those who have fallen down, let them marry, live like respectable gentlemen. I have no objection. [...]

"Get one wife and live like a gentleman. Similarly woman. Live with one husband fastidiously, with children. What is the wrong there? We have so many grhastha devotees. [...] 

" But what is this nonsense that you take sannyasa and make relation with...? This should be completely stopped."

(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, 7/1/77).

G Dasa: Then Mahanidhi took sannyasa from Satsvarupa Maharaj and Mahanidhi is the real one responsible for the bogus Lila-amrita, he did all the interviews and compiling for Satsvarupa. This fall down will really shake the other GBC's / gurus, since Mahanidhi swami is the siksha guru to many "A LISTED GURUS" like Radhanath, Sachinanda swami, Banu swami, Lokanath, BB Govinda swami, Gopal krsna maharaja etc etc. Soon we will see the GBC / gurus try to cover it all up, as they have since 2003 already.

W Dasa: Flies on a sticky paper jaja!! Krsna cleans things up wholesale. Sri Krsna Ki Jaya!!!

D: Uh oh!

G: This initiating-guru system is all just a farce ... many will go the same way.

S Das: On his Vyasa puja this year, Mahanidhi's disciples hired a helicopter and threw flower petals on Radha Kunda. Three days later -- he was gone. I was told his disciples pleaded with him not to leave Radha Kunda and sort his problems out. They asked him to leave the association of the old lady (75 years old I was told). He told them to leave if they wanted but he would not give up her association. What do you make out of that? Weird indeed. 

[Regarding how a Sannyāsī must be very careful not to indulge in sense gratification for they become a vantasi. Srila Prabhupada:]

TRANSLATION
One who accepts the sannyasa order gives up the three principles of materialistic activities in which one indulges in the field of household life—namely religion, economic development and sense gratification. One who first accepts sannyasa but then returns to such materialistic activities is to be called a vantasi, or one who eats his own vomit. He is indeed a shameless person.

PURPORT
Materialistic activities are regulated by the institution of varnasrama-dharma. Without varnasrama-dharma, materialistic activities constitute animal life. Yet even in human life, while observing the principles of varna and asrama-brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, gṛhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa—one must ultimately accept sannyasa, the renounced order, for only by the renounced order can one be situated in brahma-sukha, or transcendental bliss. In brahma-sukha one is no longer attracted by lusty desires. Indeed, when one is no longer disturbed, especially by lusty desires for sexual indulgence, he is fit to become a sannyasi. 

Otherwise, one should not accept the sannyasa order. 

If one accepts sannyasa at an immature stage, there is every possibility of his being attracted by women and lusty desires and thus again becoming a so-called grhastha or a victim of women. Such a person is most shameless, and he is called vantasi, or one who eats that which he has already vomited. He certainly leads a condemned life. In our Krsna consciousness movement it is advised, therefore, that the sannyasis and brahmacaris keep strictly aloof from the association of women so that there will be no chance of their falling down again as victims of lusty desires.

[SB: 7.15.36]

P: Talking of Prabhupadas instructions ! He actually wanted everybody to get married because he knew that none of us is ready to become renounced. That was his clear desire .... What bores me often is the endless quotations out of the Shastra. Much more interesting would be to read what Devotees have realized over the years. 

Religion always tries to control people through sex and that is not possible. When not properly lived out it will always pop up again. Thinking about it is like doing it. As long it is done with love for the person I believe it's healthy and nourishes our soul. It's a bit like how we use a knife. To properly cut a slice of bread or cut somebody's throat with it .....Why a man becomes a victim of women? I would rather say that women become victim of man! That is my own realization. I don't have to agree with all that Prabhupada said. He never told me that I have to. We always have the choice to become like sheeple or think also a bit for ones self. Believe me you won't go to hell for that........

P: You can lead sheep to knowledge ..... But you can't make them think!

D: One can never put out fire by adding fuel to it. Similarly, material desires can never cease to bother human beings. That's why vedic lifestyle helps one transcend such mundane stuff. Srila Prabhupada never said Krishna consciousness is for everyone. For his disciples each word from him is worth its weight in gold...and his words are pretty heavy!

V: Well there you go then.....another one bites the dust....

D: One who reads...not just read..but study Srila Prabhupada books can think independent of everyone in the material world. The knowledge is not derived or experiential. It just dawns ...like a swift sunrise. And stays eternally...

P: I mean don't people have eyes in their head. I could have told you by just looking at him that he's not ready to take disciples! If we are not aware who is who then we might get what we deserve. We have to open our eyes and feel with our heart. If there's always somebody around who does the thinking for us like many incompetent ISKCON leaders, you might end up in never never land, with them.  

D: That's why it is important to mull over what exactly Srila Prabhupada instructions were. If these people had understood...which needs head on the shoulder...these things wouldn't happen in iskcon.

G: Everyone performing the process of bhakti must make sure to give up false ego (fame, name, recognition, followers, wealth etc.) for no one can cheat maya the unsummortable divine energy of the Lord, for She knows how to trick and firmly entangle those whose heart is not pure.

R: Welcome to the world of ITSACON => "GURUS" + Blind Followers!

M: Srila Prabhupada: But this hypocrisy should be stopped. There have been so many fallen down. First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience. And at least, we are not going to create new sannyasis. And those who have fallen down, let them get married.