Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura, founder of the Gaudiya Matha
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/08-13/editorials10465.htm
Rocana das is now citing extensively from Bhakti Sudhir Goswami -- on the topic of "sahajiya" or -- imitation of higher devotees. Bhakti Sudhir Goswami is famous for "taking shelter of BR Sridhara Maharaja" just after 1977. Except, BR Sridhara is the exact same person Srila Prabhupada warns us about -- who in 1936 made a deviant into the Gaudiya Matha's "acharya" -- which resulted in the ruination and devastation of the Gaudiya Matha.
Even Bhakti Sudhir Goswami admits (as we will post below) that the results of Sridhara Maharaja's appointing a (bi-sexual) deviant in 1936 as the acharya, forced the Gaudiya Matha mission to glide down to hell. Why are the same people who are taking everything to hell -- the same people we need to cite from and consult? Then again both Sridhara Maharaja and Narayan Maharaja said that the GBC gurus would have to be veiwed as "rati keli" by their followers i.e. -- servants of the gopis -- and now Mahanidhi and his program is found to have elements of this same deviation going on, i.e. premature rasika. Then again the GBC used to call Narayan Maharaja their "rasika guru" all through the 1980s. Is all this premature rasika connected?
And the odious result of Sridhara Maharaja's "appointed guru" / premature rati keli siddha / program was -- that his bogus guru fell into scandals. And then the "dissenters," those who objected to Sridhara Maharaja's bogus and illicit sex guru cult, were being banned, beaten and assassinated. All of this has been explained in detail by Srila Prabhupada, who said that Sridhara Maharaja is the founder father of the "severe offenders" Bagh Bazaar (Ananta Vasudeva) guru program. The founder fathers of the severe offender's program, are now, our source of knowledge and inspiration?
Why are so many ISKCON folks (and now apparently Rocana das) running off to listen to the promoters of the founder fathers of the worship of a "deviants are messiahs" programs, such as BR Sridhara Maharaja? Is this not the same identical "bogus guru program" that supported sexual deviants as messiahs after 1936, and this in turn got dissenters (ok people like PADA editor) -- banned, beaten and assassinated after 1936? Why not ask these folks first, who authorized you folks to annoint bogus messiahs in the first place, which resulted in your taking the Gaudiya Matha to -- hell? And have not you same folks taken ISKCON to hell after 1977, since you folks supported their bogus guru program? Isn't the whole root of this -- sahajiya-ism -- that people are being promoted as rati keli -- assistants of the gopis -- when they have illicit sex and drug contaminations?
For example, in 1979 Sridhara Maharaja (SM) was informed that people like us (the PADA editor) were protesting Jayatirtha's illicit sex, LSD, marijuana and designer drugs program, and Sridhara Maharaja said simply "none should protest." Notice, no one is allowed to "protest" Sridhara Maharaja and his bogus and deviant "God's successors" program, such as Jayatirtha, who was engaged in illicit sex and drugs, and who was posing as a "servant of Radharani'? And are not -- illicit sex and drugs "gurus" -- the exact principle of the sahajiya imitators of the Goswamis -- which Srila Prabhupada has warned us about -- since they artificially think they are liberated souls?
It is an unfortunate (but true) fact that one of Sridhara Maharaja's post-1977 guru cult leaders was Jayatirtha, who was even offering LSD, marijuana and designer drugs to his shalagram deity -- and then saying that these drugs are "Radha's feet dust." And Sridhara Maharaja not only endorsed all these deviations, but he enforced all these deviations by saying "none should protest." That is exactly what the sahajiyas do, they engage in illicit sex and drugs while claiming to be "servants of Radha." Who authorized Sridhara Maharaja to endorse and enforce these post-1936 and post-1977 sahajiya guru cults, and to oppose and oppress those of us who resisted his bogus guru program?
And since Sridhara Maharaja says -- no one in ISKCON shall be allowed to protest his deviant gurus -- then naturally we will all be kicked out of ISKCON for protesting, and then the program of LSD and drugs being "Radha's feet dust" will continue as offerings to the shalagram deity etc. Why does Sridhara Maharaja not only support these types of deviations, but he wants "no one" to protest his bogus guru's deviations?
Jayatirtha told me personally that he used to be a top disciple of TIMOTHY LEARY, the LSD guru. So now Jayatirtha was simply going back to his old hippie days, but Sridhara Maharaja was so be-fooled and bewildered, he thought that Jayatirtha is the next "Jesus-like" Vaishnava acharya in the line of gurus from God (KRISHNA) almighty, never mind that Jayatirtha is a person who is promoting illicit sex and the Timothy Leary LSD drug process?
And why does Sridhara Maharaja apparently not even know that it is an offense to say that LSD, marijuana and designer drugs are "Radha's feet dust" -- and thus he says -- no one should protest these deviations? Why not investigate, what are these people protesting? And why has BR Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, Rocana, Bhakti Sudhir and all these others -- criticized us for such a long time, for our saying that their entire guru siddhanta is bogus, and that their bogus guru's out croppings of LSD being the feet dust of Radha etc. is -- unauthorized, bogus, sahajiya and so forth?
And so, we were kicked out of ISKCON because of people like Sridhara Maharaja, Rocana, Bhakti Sudhir and others saying that we are wrong to protest their bogus guru regime. Of course the protesters to Sridhara's Maharaja's bogus guru's program in 1936 were also banned, beaten, had their skulls cracked with bricks, had their faces pushed into dog stools, and some were killed, because Sridhara Maharaja was saying even way back then, that these "dissenters" have no authority to protest his bogus gurus. Then, after Sridhara Maharaja's program of having dissenting people's skulls cracked with bricks, and having them murdered etc., Sridhara Maharaja said after 1977, "Hey I have a good idea, lets re-start my entire 1936 program of having people's skulls cracked with bricks and having them murdered, all over again"! And these are the people we should listen to now?
In sum (A) Sridhara Maharaja establishes bogus gurus, that in turn establishes illicit sex and intoxication as his new standard for acharyas, and then he recruits people like Rocana and Bhakti Sudhir to help him promote and establish these bogus messiahs, and the deviant siddhanta that this fallen behavior is guru / rati keli siddha; Then (B) they collectively say "no one should protest our establishing bogus people, cheaters, criminals, sexual perverts and debauchees as messiahs"; Then (C) Those who protest, get beaten and killed. This is why Srila Prabhupada said -- we must avoid Sridhara Maharaja because he is "very competent to harm our natural progress." Right, you can get killed, what to speak of harmed.
In other words, Sridhara Maharaja creates fanatical guru cults that -- beat and kill people, because he says we need to worship his bogus messiahs and "none should protest." That means, SM is setting sincere devotees up to -- be beaten or killed, because the sincere devotees will naturally want to protest the sahajiya guru cults of Sridhara Maharaja. Worse, after Sridhara Maharaja created a violent bi-sexual deviant guru cult in 1936, which had dissenters banned, beaten and killed, he went on to establish the same exact thing in post-1977 in ISKCON, but this time he was supporting 11 deviants instead of only one. Was he not happy that he only had a small number of people beaten with bricks and assassinated after 1936, and so he wanted to expand his program eleven-fold by having even more "dissenters" to his bogus gurus beaten and killed?
That also means apparently, Sridhara Maharaja does not know that drugs like LSD are not "Radha's feet dust"? Worse, Sridhara Maharaja does not even know that sincere devotees must protest these bogus sahajiya-vada people who are establishing illicit sex and drugs acharyas? SM does not even know it is a severe offense to offer drugs like LSD to the shalagram deity? In other words, Sridhara Maharaja has no clues about basic guru standards, basic deity worship standards and so forth, and worse he is claiming that all of the people who are violating these standards are -- acharyas? That means the Sridhara Maharaja program has been supporting these sahajiya guru out croppings -- ever since 1936.
As for Bhakti Sudhir Goswami, is this the same one who was reported to have become a big guru in the Sridhara Maharaja Matha in the 1980s, and then he allegedly ran off with a woman and abandoned his temple, apparently similar to what Ramesvara, Bhagavan, Jayatirtha, Hansadutta, and more recently Prabhavishnu and Mahanidhi have done? Is this the same Bhakti Sudhir Goswami who also helped Tripurari swami become another "acharya," and there have been a lot of questions about his "guru" program as well. Tripurari's former servant became friends with us and he told us about some of the "goings on" over there, which do not sound at all like the actions of bona fide acharyas.
Moreover, Srila Prabhupada wrote a letter saying we should not consult with Sridhara Maharaja because he had a tendency to create bogus guru deviations, and "amongst my God brothers, no one is qualified to be acharya." And yet the followers of Sridhara Maharaja like Bhakti Sudhir Goswami are violating that order by saying, we need to go to Sridhara Maharaja, and that Sridhara Maharaja is an acharya.
Bhakti Sudhir Goswami: It is no wonder Krishna's guru-rupa Gauranga Mahaprabhu withdrew His sanction from the Gaudiya Math to distribute His consciousness around the world. Many wonder, "What happened to Gaudiya Math? Everything was going so well and then it all went to hell. How did they become so deviated?" Now we know.
[PADA: Yes, we do know how the Gaudiya Matha went to hell, because Sridhara Maharaja "violated the order of guru (Srila Saraswati Thakura)" and he concocted that Ananta Vasudeva should be the next acharya. Then, Ananta Vasudeva started immediately falling into illicit sex and he started to decry the Vaishnava parampara as bogus and he took "re-initiation" into a bogus lineage.
And our GBC gurus are also doing the same things: falling into illicit sex and taking re-initiations from other lineages. We have to keep in mind that it was Sridhara Maharaja who helped and artificially promoted and annointed the 11 GBC gurus as bona fide in 1978. In other words, Sridhara Maharaja created the first wave of artificial acharyas in 1936, then he advocated for 11 more artificial acharyas after 1977, because rather evidently -- he has no idea what is an acharya. In any case Bhakti Sudhir Goswami is correct, because Sridhara Maharaja makes bogus gurus, he creates hell out of spiritual institutions.]
And our GBC gurus are also doing the same things: falling into illicit sex and taking re-initiations from other lineages. We have to keep in mind that it was Sridhara Maharaja who helped and artificially promoted and annointed the 11 GBC gurus as bona fide in 1978. In other words, Sridhara Maharaja created the first wave of artificial acharyas in 1936, then he advocated for 11 more artificial acharyas after 1977, because rather evidently -- he has no idea what is an acharya. In any case Bhakti Sudhir Goswami is correct, because Sridhara Maharaja makes bogus gurus, he creates hell out of spiritual institutions.]
Bhakti Sudhir Goswami: The aftereffects of such deviation are documented in Gita as well as the Bhagawatam — nothing less than the destruction of the sampradaya (parampara nasta; kalena nasta pralaye). What Srila Saraswati Thakur spoke was the truth no doubt but it became mutilated by the temperament and ulterior motives of the receivers (paramparyena, prakrta vaicitryad).
[PADA: Agreed, Sridhara Maharaja even said that the people who are envious of Ramesvara should also be voted in as acharyas, so he wanted not only his first wave of 11 deviants to stay in power, he wanted wave after wave after wave of bogus gurus to continue to attack the parampara. And so, the GBC adopted SM's "guru by vote" system, and they voted in all these Prabhavishnus and Mahanidhis. If you are envious of Ramesvara, you should be also voted in as acharya? That means, the envious will become the acharyas and the sincere will be driven out. Was this the actual plan?]
Bhakti Sudhi Goswami: It would take a pure and simple hearted Vaishnava exclusively dedicated to the order of his guru (Srila Saraswati Thakur) sacrificing himself to the extremes of self-forgetfulness and empowered by Nityananda Prabhu, namely His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, to reestablish the flow of Divine mercy and inundate the world with Krishna consciousness. And in the aftermath of his departure Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami revealed the full wealth of the Rupanuga Sampradaya in the line of Bhaktivinode Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur.
[PADA: Sridhara Maharaja simply revealed that he has been a promoter of bi-sexual deviants as gurus after 1936, and that he has been a promoter of illicit sex with men, women and children gurus after 1977. When Hansadutta told Sridhara Maharaja in 1985 that he was having illicit sex with more than one women; And he was taking drugs of all types; And he was falling to hell basically, Sridhara Maharaja said -- there is only one thing you can do: Go back and sit in the Vyasa seat and continue on as the guru. So, even when Sridhara Maharaja knows there is drugs and illicit sex, he still wants that program worshiped.
The question now is, why is Rocana promoting Mayesvara who supports Gaudiya Matha gurus and folks like Hrdayananda, and now he is promoting the spokesmen for the BR Sridhara Maharaja mission? Is he going full on Gaudiya Matha, or has he been Gaudiya Math all along but its finally coming out, or what?
Anyway all this is good. The impure parts of the ghee are exposed and separated. Just like our friend Prahlad, he says he is for the worship of Srila Prabhupada, but then the next thing you know, Prahlad is posting links to Bhakta das, who is promoting Radhanath swami as the new Jesus-like messiah of the universe (yes, I have seen Prahlad posting links to Bhakta das speaking videos).
Yep, these people actually promote the supporters of the worship of deviants as equals to Jesus. They are another version of Sridhara Maharaja, they cannot discriminate pure from very impure. We all need to surrender to hear from Bhakta das, so we can go back to worship of the former New Vrndavana henchmen SERVANTS OF RADHA. (?) We all need to surrender to Sridhara Maharaja, number one cheer leader of illicit sex messiahs? And Mahanidhi is simply aother example of their rotten egg messiahs process, and now many folks are all upset because -- we caught them, thats all.
And now Rocana is showing his roots in the bogus Gaudiya Matha "living guru" process, and his roots may have been there the whole time. So that is good, it means they have been part of the "imitation of guru" (sahajiya) deviations all along, and they cannot let go of their support of these deviations, and now that is being revealed. So this is all connected, the original guru / gopi rasa / imitation in 1936, the post-1977 11 imitations, and subsequent imitations like Mahanidhi, and now fools like Bhakta das and his cheif disciple Prahlad trying to revive the worship of Radhanath as a servant of Radha, this is all rooted in sahajiya-vada. ys pd]
[PADA: Agreed, Sridhara Maharaja even said that the people who are envious of Ramesvara should also be voted in as acharyas, so he wanted not only his first wave of 11 deviants to stay in power, he wanted wave after wave after wave of bogus gurus to continue to attack the parampara. And so, the GBC adopted SM's "guru by vote" system, and they voted in all these Prabhavishnus and Mahanidhis. If you are envious of Ramesvara, you should be also voted in as acharya? That means, the envious will become the acharyas and the sincere will be driven out. Was this the actual plan?]
Bhakti Sudhi Goswami: It would take a pure and simple hearted Vaishnava exclusively dedicated to the order of his guru (Srila Saraswati Thakur) sacrificing himself to the extremes of self-forgetfulness and empowered by Nityananda Prabhu, namely His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, to reestablish the flow of Divine mercy and inundate the world with Krishna consciousness. And in the aftermath of his departure Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami revealed the full wealth of the Rupanuga Sampradaya in the line of Bhaktivinode Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur.
[PADA: Sridhara Maharaja simply revealed that he has been a promoter of bi-sexual deviants as gurus after 1936, and that he has been a promoter of illicit sex with men, women and children gurus after 1977. When Hansadutta told Sridhara Maharaja in 1985 that he was having illicit sex with more than one women; And he was taking drugs of all types; And he was falling to hell basically, Sridhara Maharaja said -- there is only one thing you can do: Go back and sit in the Vyasa seat and continue on as the guru. So, even when Sridhara Maharaja knows there is drugs and illicit sex, he still wants that program worshiped.
The question now is, why is Rocana promoting Mayesvara who supports Gaudiya Matha gurus and folks like Hrdayananda, and now he is promoting the spokesmen for the BR Sridhara Maharaja mission? Is he going full on Gaudiya Matha, or has he been Gaudiya Math all along but its finally coming out, or what?
Anyway all this is good. The impure parts of the ghee are exposed and separated. Just like our friend Prahlad, he says he is for the worship of Srila Prabhupada, but then the next thing you know, Prahlad is posting links to Bhakta das, who is promoting Radhanath swami as the new Jesus-like messiah of the universe (yes, I have seen Prahlad posting links to Bhakta das speaking videos).
Yep, these people actually promote the supporters of the worship of deviants as equals to Jesus. They are another version of Sridhara Maharaja, they cannot discriminate pure from very impure. We all need to surrender to hear from Bhakta das, so we can go back to worship of the former New Vrndavana henchmen SERVANTS OF RADHA. (?) We all need to surrender to Sridhara Maharaja, number one cheer leader of illicit sex messiahs? And Mahanidhi is simply aother example of their rotten egg messiahs process, and now many folks are all upset because -- we caught them, thats all.
And now Rocana is showing his roots in the bogus Gaudiya Matha "living guru" process, and his roots may have been there the whole time. So that is good, it means they have been part of the "imitation of guru" (sahajiya) deviations all along, and they cannot let go of their support of these deviations, and now that is being revealed. So this is all connected, the original guru / gopi rasa / imitation in 1936, the post-1977 11 imitations, and subsequent imitations like Mahanidhi, and now fools like Bhakta das and his cheif disciple Prahlad trying to revive the worship of Radhanath as a servant of Radha, this is all rooted in sahajiya-vada. ys pd]
Dear Pada,
ReplyDeleteare you speculating when you said if someone does not name their guru they are impersonalists, and that Prabhupada said it? We have his letter to Bhavananda saying that when ONE GLORIFIES his guru he should say his name, not just an impersonal "All glories to guru", which Bhav had picked up somewhere. But does that mean every time we say something we have to say who our guru is to prove we are not impersonalists to YOU? Prove it prabhu, where is the quote from Srila Prabhupada. You are no better than any of the other devotees initiated by Prabhupada in this regard as far as I am concerned. You are all puffed up and think just because he accepted you that you can do "any damn thing now" as he said and you will be saved. Not true. That is so untrue.
This is fact, Prabhupada accepted disciples and he rejected some of them too. I don't come here often, but when I do, I know I will get the latest prajalpa there is against the GBC, ISKCON, and those who are following Srila Prabhupada the way HE wanted to be followed. He wanted us to cooperate with each other, with the GBC, and with ISKCON, not to fight with them like the Gaudiya Math fought with each other and sold the printing press to see who would get the rights over the temples.
DeleteRitviks sound just like the Gaudiya Math to me. They are too much into temples and not at all into following the ORDER of the spiritual master to cooperate, follow the GBC, and serve Srila Prabhupada in the institution he founded, ISKCON.