[Dear PADA: Kshamabuddhi says he left ISKCON and surrendered to Sridhara Maharaja. And he still says that today.]
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Khamabuddhi Dasa: You cannot judge anything. This is all cheap entertainment.... comedy theater...
PADA: I do not have to judge anything, Sridhara Maharaja said that 11 fools can "wear the guru uniform," that means, he has no respect for that uniform. As Srila Prabhupada says, you can dress a dog like a king, and put the dog on the king's throne with a golden crown, but as soon as you toss a bone, the dog jumps off the throne and goes for the bone. That means, you cannot dress a dog like a king, and then expect he will behave like a king, its foolishness, a concoction made by fools.
Sridhara Maharaja's 1936 guru went for both heterosex and homosex, that makes Sridhara the founder father of the worship of deviants as acharyas. And dissenters in 1940s were beaten and killed, just like we were beaten and killed by Sridhara's post-1977 gurus, and this is Kshamabuddhi's idea of "entertainment and comedy." Sridhara's victims are getting beaten, and killed. And its comedy hour theater, cheap entertainment for these people. Told ya! These fools think if you dress Satan like Jesus, then Satan becomes Jesus, even a five year old could defeat these idiots. ys pd
Kshamabuddhi Dasa: You are lying Puranjana. Sridhar Maharaja never said anything you claim he said. All is lies. you are the scum on the ISKCON septic system. See Puranjana, the 11 ritviks went to Sridhar Maharaja and told him that Prabhupada appointed them as gurus. Sridhar Maharaja didn't approve anything. He just tried to support what he was told Srila Prabhupada has ordered. Sridhar Maharaja had nothing to do with it. He just tried to support what Prabhupada wanted as he was told he wanted.
I will gladly debate Puranjana and any and all the ritviks anytime. Just let me know when you want to debate and I will shut you clowns down once and for all. Puranjana is such a vicious scoundrel that nobody will even bother to defeat the fool in a debate. Well, I will be glad to debate that reprobate derelict Puranjana anytime. You ritviks are defeated so easily that even a child could do it.
PADA: You have to read Sridhara's books and read his audio taped transcripts, such as his book "Sri Guru And his Grace." That book is made from the transcript of his talks with the GBC. He says in that book, "wear the guru uniform and it will show you what to do," and its in that book. The book also says acharyas go mad after money, women and followers. There are many other bogus statements like that, but never mind that, Srila Prabhupada says that Sridhara Maharaja is not qualified to be an acharya and that he is "very competant to harm our natural progress," and so -- he should be avoided.
And in 1977 Srila Prabhupada said Sridhara Maharaja is the founder of the "severe offenders" Bagh Bazaar party. And Srila Prabhupada says that Sridhara's 1936 guru is a bi-sexual deviant who had dissenters beaten and murdered. And when I challenged Jayatirtha in 1979, Sridhara Maharaja defended keeping Jayatirtha and he said "none should protest," I saw the transcript at the time. SM later defended keeping Ramesvara as guru in June of 1980, then he defended keeping Tamal and Hansadutta as gurus in December of 1980, and Satsvarupa circulated the tape of the GBC talking to Sridhara in early 1981, this tape was sent to all ISKCON temples.
In sum, SM said these deviants have to stay on as gurus. And SM was still propping up Hansadutta in 1985, I was there in Berkeley at the time. The devotees there also had many transcripts of their talks with Sridhara, he said to Hansadutta -- you have to stay in the guru seat, ask Hans if you have any doubts, Hansadutta was there.
I also got a boat load of transcripts way back in the 1980s myself with all these bogus statements, which I have reproduced over the years in my newsletters. And Sridhara says we came from the brahmajyoti, he is a mayavadi to boot! Kshamabuddhi could not even defend Sridhara's mayavadi quotes, where SM says we originated in brahmajyoti, that means he is a mayavadi, -- quotes which we gave way back in 1984, never mind anything else. And if Kshamabuddi agrees with Sridhara that we came from brahman, then Kshamabuddhi is a mayavada himself.
Srila Prabhupada says many of his God brothers thought we come from brahman because "they are tinged with mayavada." Anyway, wear the unform of a king, sit on a throne, what happens when we toss a bone? We already know, Sridhara's bogus gurus go for the bone.
Sridhara maharaja's bogus 1936 guru "homosex and everything" "sex and sex" (quoting Srila Prabhupada about Sridhara Maharaja and his bogus 1936 guru Ananta Vasudeva:) http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/.../sridhara-maharajas...
The child of Sridhara's guru was poisoned to death to "save the mission from scandal" because the child was asking about the wife of Ananta's Vasudeva's business as a prostitute. The child was going to expose that Ananata Vasudeva had married a prostitute, so he was killed. Nice comedy theater? Really!
Sridhara Maharaja was told that a dog was the king, so he said, put a king uniform on the dog and make him the king. (?) That is what we thought you were saying Kshamabuddhi. He did not inquire how these people became acharyas, he accepted the dog's saying they are kings without any verification? We did not accept, because we asked for verification. That means we know that dogs are not kings, and Sridhara does not.
And his 1936 guru problem was the same thing, he does not verify his acharyas.
Srimaya Das: Bogus gurus ALL OVER iskcon, IT IS A DISGRACE AND A FARCE!
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Khamabuddhi Dasa: You cannot judge anything. This is all cheap entertainment.... comedy theater...
PADA: I do not have to judge anything, Sridhara Maharaja said that 11 fools can "wear the guru uniform," that means, he has no respect for that uniform. As Srila Prabhupada says, you can dress a dog like a king, and put the dog on the king's throne with a golden crown, but as soon as you toss a bone, the dog jumps off the throne and goes for the bone. That means, you cannot dress a dog like a king, and then expect he will behave like a king, its foolishness, a concoction made by fools.
Sridhara Maharaja's 1936 guru went for both heterosex and homosex, that makes Sridhara the founder father of the worship of deviants as acharyas. And dissenters in 1940s were beaten and killed, just like we were beaten and killed by Sridhara's post-1977 gurus, and this is Kshamabuddhi's idea of "entertainment and comedy." Sridhara's victims are getting beaten, and killed. And its comedy hour theater, cheap entertainment for these people. Told ya! These fools think if you dress Satan like Jesus, then Satan becomes Jesus, even a five year old could defeat these idiots. ys pd
Kshamabuddhi Dasa: You are lying Puranjana. Sridhar Maharaja never said anything you claim he said. All is lies. you are the scum on the ISKCON septic system. See Puranjana, the 11 ritviks went to Sridhar Maharaja and told him that Prabhupada appointed them as gurus. Sridhar Maharaja didn't approve anything. He just tried to support what he was told Srila Prabhupada has ordered. Sridhar Maharaja had nothing to do with it. He just tried to support what Prabhupada wanted as he was told he wanted.
I will gladly debate Puranjana and any and all the ritviks anytime. Just let me know when you want to debate and I will shut you clowns down once and for all. Puranjana is such a vicious scoundrel that nobody will even bother to defeat the fool in a debate. Well, I will be glad to debate that reprobate derelict Puranjana anytime. You ritviks are defeated so easily that even a child could do it.
PADA: You have to read Sridhara's books and read his audio taped transcripts, such as his book "Sri Guru And his Grace." That book is made from the transcript of his talks with the GBC. He says in that book, "wear the guru uniform and it will show you what to do," and its in that book. The book also says acharyas go mad after money, women and followers. There are many other bogus statements like that, but never mind that, Srila Prabhupada says that Sridhara Maharaja is not qualified to be an acharya and that he is "very competant to harm our natural progress," and so -- he should be avoided.
And in 1977 Srila Prabhupada said Sridhara Maharaja is the founder of the "severe offenders" Bagh Bazaar party. And Srila Prabhupada says that Sridhara's 1936 guru is a bi-sexual deviant who had dissenters beaten and murdered. And when I challenged Jayatirtha in 1979, Sridhara Maharaja defended keeping Jayatirtha and he said "none should protest," I saw the transcript at the time. SM later defended keeping Ramesvara as guru in June of 1980, then he defended keeping Tamal and Hansadutta as gurus in December of 1980, and Satsvarupa circulated the tape of the GBC talking to Sridhara in early 1981, this tape was sent to all ISKCON temples.
In sum, SM said these deviants have to stay on as gurus. And SM was still propping up Hansadutta in 1985, I was there in Berkeley at the time. The devotees there also had many transcripts of their talks with Sridhara, he said to Hansadutta -- you have to stay in the guru seat, ask Hans if you have any doubts, Hansadutta was there.
I also got a boat load of transcripts way back in the 1980s myself with all these bogus statements, which I have reproduced over the years in my newsletters. And Sridhara says we came from the brahmajyoti, he is a mayavadi to boot! Kshamabuddhi could not even defend Sridhara's mayavadi quotes, where SM says we originated in brahmajyoti, that means he is a mayavadi, -- quotes which we gave way back in 1984, never mind anything else. And if Kshamabuddi agrees with Sridhara that we came from brahman, then Kshamabuddhi is a mayavada himself.
Srila Prabhupada says many of his God brothers thought we come from brahman because "they are tinged with mayavada." Anyway, wear the unform of a king, sit on a throne, what happens when we toss a bone? We already know, Sridhara's bogus gurus go for the bone.
Sridhara maharaja's bogus 1936 guru "homosex and everything" "sex and sex" (quoting Srila Prabhupada about Sridhara Maharaja and his bogus 1936 guru Ananta Vasudeva:) http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/.../sridhara-maharajas...
The child of Sridhara's guru was poisoned to death to "save the mission from scandal" because the child was asking about the wife of Ananta's Vasudeva's business as a prostitute. The child was going to expose that Ananata Vasudeva had married a prostitute, so he was killed. Nice comedy theater? Really!
Sridhara Maharaja was told that a dog was the king, so he said, put a king uniform on the dog and make him the king. (?) That is what we thought you were saying Kshamabuddhi. He did not inquire how these people became acharyas, he accepted the dog's saying they are kings without any verification? We did not accept, because we asked for verification. That means we know that dogs are not kings, and Sridhara does not.
And his 1936 guru problem was the same thing, he does not verify his acharyas.
Srimaya Das: Bogus gurus ALL OVER iskcon, IT IS A DISGRACE AND A FARCE!
Wyatt: Pada - Srila Prabhupada says that Sridhara Maharaja is not qualified to be an acharya and that he is "very competant to harm our natural progress," and so -- he should be avoided.
ReplyDeleteWyatt - Are you sure, Srila Prabhupada said this about Sridhara Maharaj or are you doing what the Iskcon people do - cut and paste to suit you and your bogus ritvik group's agenda.
[PADA: Yep, we are sure because we are quoting the 1974 letter where Srila Prabhupada says Sridhara is not qualified to be acharya etc.]
You know there is a saying " two wrongs don't make a right", which is how we picture Iskcon and its bogus guru appointment program and you and your ragtag bogus ritvik group's concocted solution which is post mortal ritvik initiation and deceptively declaring to the initiated that they are disciples of the dearly departed.
[PADA: OK so the people who are reading Prabhupada's books, they are offering their bhogha to him, they are chanting his mantras, they are accepting him as their guru, ... who else is their guru if not Srila Prabhupada? And how come you never identify this mystery guru?]
As far as we are concern, current Iskcon is just like any other organized religious institution claiming to be the so called spiritual representatives of god but for the actual purpose of collecting money for eating, sleeping, mating and defending and the ritviks are a mirror image of them.
[PADA: You keep forgetting to tell us, if people are worshiping Prabhupada now, and he is not their guru, then -- who is? Santa Claus? ys pd]
Jagadananda Das
ReplyDeleteFrom my guru: "Grow up, useless man. Destroying the world, that is what you are doing. Pretending, speaking sweet words. Supported by foolish women admirers who are buying into the same illusion. Bullshitter. There is no Hare Krishna movement anymore. Each hypocrite leader worse than the other, and you yourself have no solution. And don't go aggrandizing yourself on the internet just for pratishtha. Do some action that will actually benefit the devotees."
https://www.facebook.com/jagadananda
PADA: Yep, we are sure because we are quoting the 1974 letter where Srila Prabhupada says Sridhara is not qualified to be acharya etc.]
ReplyDeleteWYATT: You missed my point, Puranjana dasa. Not sure if it is due to your age or that you are doing it on purpose. But Krsna as paramatma within you knows. In your statement above you said that Srila Prabhupada said quote " he is(Sridara Maharaj) very competant to harm our natural progress and so -- he should be avoided." Srila Prabhupada never made such a statement about Sridara Maharaj.
[PADA: Its in the 1974 letter? Basically, Sridhara Maharaja caused the breakdown of the Gaudiya Matha by promoting false gurus, and thus the letter says, do not consult these God brothers, and why is that, because they are very competent to harm our natural progress. I am quoting the letter itself? Did you even bother to read the letter?]
WYATT: Yes, Srila Prabhupada has said something about Sridara Maharaj and his fellow godbrothers as not being qualified to be an acharya as he explained about the quarrel which was going on in Gaudiya Math after the departure his guru but Srila Prabhupada did not specifically point to Sridara Maharaj as someone who is "very competant to harm our natural progress and so -- he should be avoided."
[PADA: The letter starts out specifically naming Sridhara maharaja?]
WYATT: So, why are you saying this? In fact during Srila Prabhupada's ...
[PADA: And we were told not to visit Sridhara's matha in 1972, as well. Are you a Sridhara Maharaja groupie now? ys pd]
Wyatt I posted the 1974 letter, hope you read it. ys pd
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