Monday, July 29, 2013

Srila Prabhupada / Jesus / Judas / Pontius Pilate / Poison issue etc.

PADA: There are a group of Krishna devotees -- especially within the GBC's guru's program, Gaudiya Matha's program, and similar others, who are often complaining that "PADA is trying to make Srila Prabhupada into the next Jesus." Rocana would certainly be in this group, since he says we are "The Church of Ritviks," because we are trying to implement Srila Prabhupada's worship to continue on as the exclusive worship for his society. 

And then we have the Bhakti Vikas swami folks saying we are "Church-ianity" -- and so on and so forth. We find it somewhat amazing that we are being criticized by our own alleged God brothers for claiming that our guru is shakti-avesa (empowered by Krishna), just like Jesus is. Srila Prabhupada says Jesus is shati-avesa and "me and Jesus are brothers." This of course begs the question of "unqualified people trying to absorb sins like Jesus," which has been another huge disaster zone in ISKCON where many of their alleged "sin absorbing Jesus" fell down into spectacular debauched failures.  

We find no actual reason to believe Srila Prabhupada is not on the level of Jesus. Then again, Srila Prabhupada taught us much more advanced principles than Jesus did, of course Jesus was dealing with very unsophisticated people so there was a limit to what he could preach. Therefore, this issue is itself a problem, since there are people who think our entire effort is flawed because it "over emphasizes" Srila Prahbupada. As Tripurari swami once said, ISKCON is suffering from, of all things, over emphasis on Srila Prabhupada. In other words, there is a sharp resistance to our idea that Srila Prabhupada is another "pure devotee from heaven" like Jesus is.

Unfortunately, a lot of these people who are "not in favor of too much emphasis of Srila Prabhupada" have also not been too helpful in assisting us in rooting out the troubles in ISKCON either, including all sorts of criminality, because they either joined along with the the main group of hi-jackers of ISKCON, or they acquiesced with those who are saying "we do not need so much emphasis on Srila Prabhupada." So there has been a sort of conspiracy of silence, or omission, or worse the crime of support or commission of these false post-1977 gurus, to suppress our efforts to re-establish Srila Prabhupada as the acharya. And in the process, the criminal enterprise thus became enabled, empowered and in fact glorified as messiahs.  

The PADA view is that Srila Prabhupada is the actual embodiment of ISKCON, just as the church of Jesus calls itself "the body of Jesus." Therefore, when Srila Prabhupada is re-established as the actual guru / acharya / messiah / of ISKCON, then ISKCON will become a pure vehicle for spreading Krishna consciousness. What has happened to ISKCON however, is somewhat related to what happened to Jesus. Jesus was betrayed by his top disciple Judas, and so he was crucified. PADA honestly believes that Srila Prabhupada was complaining he was being poisoned because, he was also betrayed by some of his top disciples.

Judas and Jesus

This creates a big problem. 

Suppose the Church of Jesus is hi-jacked by the Judas / Pontius Pilate / crucifiers section, then can we still say "this is the Church of Jesus"? So our biggest problem all along is that people are saying "PADA is attacking ISKCON." OK, wait a minute, if ISKCON has been hi-jacked by the people who made Srila Prabhupada complain he is being poisoned, ... is this still ISKCON?

Therefore we regularly get complaints from some GBC guru folks / Gaudiya Matha folks / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Janaradran / Bhakta das / Swarupa Hebel etc. saying "PADA is exposing the bogus leaders of ISKCON, and this is destroying ISKCON." OK, but if ISKCON has been hi-jacked by the Judas and Pontius Pilate's team, how are we then "criticizing Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON"? Its no longer "Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON"? And to say or imply that this criminally hi-jacked institution is "Srila Prabhupada's golden body" etc. is what has caused a lot of the criminality to take over in the first place, and for the deviants to continue to stay in control ever since. 

So this is a good parallel idea, Jesus was betrayed -- and if we assume that the betrayers should be considered as his guru successors, this will cause all kinds of chaos and mis-understandings. In sum, if the Church of Jesus would instead worship the "Church of Judas" -- mistakenly thinking this is the Church of Jesus, then it would become dysfunctional, just as ISKCON has become.   
When us and Sulochana first tried to get the mass of devotees interested in combating these bogus gurus, and "take ISKCON back" to worship Srila Prabhupada, almost none of the mass of devotees wanted to help us because they considered were were "attacking Srila Prabhupada's mission." OK, and that means they could not understand that the mission is no longer his mission, it has been hi-jacked. Nor would Srila Prabhupada have supported all the bogus gurus, drug dealing, embezzling, banning, beating, molesting, murders and many other crimes that have been going on. Its not his mission, plain and simple. In other words, the mass of devotees began to confuse Jesus with Judas, and this is still the main problem. 

To say that the post-1977 criminal enterprise is "Srila Prabhupada's enterprise," is how the ex-gurukulis for example came to think that Srila Prabhupada wanted a criminal operation going on in his name. He did not. Of course now the Prahlad group is blaming us for the ex-gurukulis coming to think Srila Prabhupada wanted all these crimes in his mission. No, we opposed all these hi-jackers from practically day one. So these people want to blame us for the problems they themselves created. The gurukulis became confused because people like Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad were promoting the worship of Satan as if it were the worship of Jesus. "I cannot tell a lie, he did it." 

So if we understand that the movement has become a hi-jacked criminal enterprise, then what do we need next? We need more and more whistle blowers who will expose the crimes and thus weed out the criminal element. That is what us and Sulochana were doing, but unfortunately a whistle blower in ISKCON is often not treated too well, and this discourages more people from coming forward.

All we have to do is look at how some GBC guru folks / Gaudiya Matha folks / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Janaradran / Bhakta das / Swarupa Hebel etc. keep saying "PADA is exposing the bogus leaders of ISKCON, and this is destroying ISKCON." OK, so hardly no one else wants to step up to the plate to get harassed like this. Thus, because not many people want to be publicly thrashed like this, this tends to perpetuate the Judas empire / criminal enterprise / because the whistle blowers are always being attacked like this. And of course, by saying someone is "destroying ISKCON," this is also how people can get beaten and killed. There is a trend to forget that ISKCON has been hi-jacked, its no longer the real ISKCON, therefore actual ISKCON is not being attacked by us. Rather the Judas / Pontius Pilate / crucifiers program is being attacked, not the actual Church of Jesus.

Church of Pontius Pilate?

Now these folks all along since -- say 1980 -- and more lately guys like Prahlad, Bhakta das, Janardan etc. are saying that PADA "has made ISKCON look bad." That is like like saying we have made the empire state building look tall? We did not create the sordid and criminal events in the hi-jacked ISKCON, rather the Judas sabha has created all this, we simply pointed out their crimes. And now some of these same folks (like Janardan etc.) are saying Sulochan and our efforts are bad because we gave "Srila Prabhupada's movement" a bad name. What! 

Janardan types think we are the bad guys, because we got rid of Kirtanananda's worship, and we thus ruined one of the molester messiah's programs, and we thus saved hundreds -- more likely thousands -- of more children from being victimized, and this is harmful to ISKCON? Does this mean Janardan wanted the homosexual molester's worship program, and resultant child molesting, to continue in his idea of "pure ISKCON"? Or what? This is amazing, getting rid of the worship of criminals, homosexuals, pedophiles, deviants, orchestrators of murders etc. is "ruining the good name of ISKCON." What kind of ISKCON do these people want? 

No, we saved ISKCON from having these abominations continue in its name. What has ruined ISKCON is all these goody two shoes compromisers who are not standing up and opposing the Judas sabha like we have done all along. 

OK, in any event, if the Devil is in control of the Church, then we are no longer giving Srila Prabhupada's movement a bad name, since its no longer his movement? Whose movement is it if Judas and Pontius Pilate are in charge? And this means, when these people attack us, they have enabled the Judas sabha to stay in power, and that is what they have done all along in fact. 

That means the GBC guru program / Gaudiya Matha / Sanat / Mukunda / Janardan / Prahlad / Bhakta / Swarupa Hebel program is helping the molester hi-jacking program by attacking the dissenters to the Judas take over program (ok some credit to the Gaudiya Matha folks, some of them are joining with us on a few of these issues). So, if we are going to clear Srila Prabhupada's name at this point, we need to make people understand that his movement has been hi-jacked from him. 

And that the hi-jackers turned his mission into a criminal operation. To say that our protesting the molester messiah hijackers is "attacking ISKCON" is how these compromised people enabled and empowered the hi-jackers all along since 1978. And now these people are still attacking us, because they are still enablers of these criminal hi-jackers. They essentially want to see Judas in power and not us Prabhupadanugas. 

Later, when the victimized children were in all kinds trouble, including suicides, a lawsuit was made to expose that there is a molesting problem going on. Apparently, the lawsuit immediately got 200 children pulled out of the schools by their parents (those children were in danger of being molested). And the lawsuit stopped thousands of other children from ever being placed into those schools, ever. 

Now how did you guess, some of the GBC guru folks / Gaudiya Matha folks / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Janaradran / Bhakta das / Swarupa Hebel etc folks all complained that our program is wrong because -- "this makes Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON look bad"? In sum, they wanted more thousands of children to enter their "wood chipper for children machine," and have even more children get turned into broken up bits and pieces, and for us to do nothing to stop this deviant process. 

And now that we practically stopped thousands of more victims from entering their wood chippers for children program, they are angry that we did that. Apparently, the children sacrifices to Satan program should not be stopped, they think that is "a great offense." And they still say that to us even today, your stopping the "child sacrifices to Satan" program is bogus. OK, that means they are under the influence of the Judas / Pontius Pilate / Satan worship sector. No one else thinks our idea of stopping thousands of more children enter the molester messiah's concentration camps was a bad idea, just this little clique of bogus guru sympathizers with Judas.    

No one should stop this program!

One of the ex-students told us this school program was "Auschwitz" for children. Thus, its amazing to us that some GBC guru folks / Gaudiya Matha folks / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Janaradran / Bhakta das / etc wanted this program to continue because that is what they basically said, do not sue the hijackers for the child molesting, do not expose these problems because "you are making ISKCON look bad." 

Nope, your folks acquiescing and allowing all these child sacrificing programs to continue is what is making ISKCON look bad, and your harassing anyone who takes it down is what makes ISKCON look even more bad. So anyone who does not want these types of severe deviations to be stopped is -- under the control of the Judas sabha. Yep, many experts on psychology, police, FBI, media, they all agree with us, people thwarting our attempts to contain these crimes, including crimes against children, are under severe demoniac influences, ok they are in the Judas / Satan / Jesus betrayal sabha.     

How did you guess, its is not us, it is these compromisers who are direct or de facto saying that the hijackers mass molesting program is "Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON"! That means they are the ones who confused the gurukulis into thinking all this is "what Srila Prabhupada wanted." That means they are the ones who confused the public into thinking this is Srila Prabhupada's program. 

Now another interesting thing is that the IRM / Janardan / Prahlad / Bhakta program is also saying we are "making it look like" Srila Prabhupada said he was being poisoned. How can we make Srila Prabhupada "look like" he is saying, ... anything? Either he said that or he did not? He said he is being given poison. And now these people are quoting the IRM, who also wanted us to stop us when we said we have to save thousands of more children from being molested, and yep -- the IRM also said -- no expose of the poison case, all of this to "save the name of ISKCON." Covering up for children molestation and poisoning of the guru saves nothing and no one, ok -- except it saves the Judas / Pontius Pilate / crucifiers. Thats all it saves. And it has saved them.  

And here is the perhaps real issue: Why are these people like Janardan now defending the people who -- apparently -- poisoned our guru Srila Prabhupada, by saying this should not have been exposed? Does that not make them their hand maidens as well? In any case, we think Jesus was crucified due to betrayal of a Judas sector, and Srila Prabhupada said he was being poisoned, in that sense he also was crucified, also because he had a Judas sector. Anyone who tries to stop us from exposing all this is with the Judas sector, that's all there is to it. Srila Prabhupada said one of the reasons Jesus is so popular is that he was crucified for his preaching, we think eventually Srila Prabhupada will become famous for the same reason. In fact, we know he will. Jaya haribol! ys pd


UPDATE: 7/30/13 : Dear prabhu, Yes, on their web site the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Janardana / Bhakta das team attacks us profusely for our program of cutting off the supply line of children going to the ISKCON Auschwitz / molestation program. We saved thousands of more children from going into that mess, and they are upset. Yep, that is exactly what happened here. And yes, the main "other party" that is upset with us doing that is -- the GBC's molester messiahs program folks. Yep, that means they are ditto heads. 

Sorry, most people think our plan of cutting off the pipeline of victims was -- required. Good question, why would they object to having the pipeline of thousands of more victims shut off? Yes, you have heard right, they are upset that we saved thousands of more children from going into that program. Does that mean they are advocates for the molesting and victimizing program? What else can we conclude? ys pd


  1. Thank you! I really enjoyed reading this article. PADA is presenting very good points.
    I have included this link to my web page, which deals with the same problem of the global and pandemic religious cheating.
    Let this message be spread out for the welfare of all sincere souls.

  2. All of you surely remember those cab drivers from Delhi airport to Vrindavan. You negotiated fee and half way he would stop: "I want more money, what do you think?"
    Exactly these type of people joined ISKCON. It is all about exploiting Prabhupada's movement. Using Prabhupada's temples to make bugs.

    Because the leaders are themselves moneygrubbing bastards they can't see what kind of folks they let in. Not only that, they can't install purificatory process to have their cash-hungry disciples purified. So this is what is present ISKCON. Economic refugees who all day do nothing but exploit for material resources.
    Now, you write articles like above, listen boys, I want to have a serious word with you - please. What do you expect? They look at you like scared and immediately, roaring laughter.

    After 20 years of Final Order falling on deaf ears we should be convinced, these folks cant be instructed. Only solution, ISKCON Bangalore should start to immediately open temples all over the world.
    Trying to teach present ISKCON is telling a dog to refrain from sex.

    Now things went so mad that Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution considers Prabhupada as Anti-semite. And, how could it be otherwise, present ISKCON leaders, have no answer. In other words they agree, yes the founder of our movement was an Anti-semite.

    Thats the actual reason why they change Prabhupada's books like mad.
    In sum, trying to teach these kanisthas is waste of time. Better to have ISKCON Bangalore in every town and village .

  3. I feel the same way anonymous. They let in people who are not perfect and kick out 100 people who are. They would rather have one of their "enforcers" to control the few devotees who are left than have 100 devotees who can do devotional service free from their control. This is no exagerration is it? From what I have heard there used to be thousands of disciples of Srila Prabhupada who were forced out so the few "gurus" could rule. Then when the "gurus" left all their disciples did too. So who took over the ruling of the temples? Whoever could control the devotees out of fear, that is my experience. I have been threatened while living at the temple by an authority who mentioned one of his "enforcers" for absolutely no reason, just because he resented the fact that I gained a little independence from him after a while because my guru left and I no longer fell for his rhetoric about how the guru was pure. Even after the guru fell down, the temple devotees wanted us to believe he might someday come back and save us all. Or we could choose one of his fabulous other godbrother gurus who never could possibly fall down, who by the way are all fallen now.

    No. They can tell by the looks on our faces we no longer believe in their hype. And that is what they are afraid of. They know they can't fool us forever. And as soon as we realize one at a time they are deceiving us they have us kicked out right away. So why do these "enforcers" stay? Because they are like dogs, as you said. They only like to bark and fight.


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