Saturday, July 9, 2011

Rocana debates PADA (ISKCON) ys pd

Evidence Tampering: Rtvik Sleight of Hand


Jul 07, 2011 — CANADA (SUN) — This article is the first of a two-part response to the recent article by Dusyanta dasa entitled "Ritvik or Rittik", which was in reply to my previous article entitled, "New Evidence, New Arguments or New Realizations". While he made a number of interesting comments, I believe that Dusyanta dasa missed my point entirely with respect to noting that the term "ritvik" does not appear in the July 9th Letter.

[PADA: Rocana das (Sampradaya Sun editor) is one of the unfaithful Krishna followers who first of all supported the March 1978 idea that Srila Prabhupada "appointed" neophytes as his guru successors. Simultaneously, Rocana and his ilk supported the idea that ISKCON's neophyte leaders are -- NOT -- supposed to have minor league roles -- as ISKCON's administrators, priests or "shiksha" advisors. Even as of today, as soon as we say that neophytes cannot be worshiped as Lord Krishna's guru successors, Rocana says that is "the ritvik deviation." The result of Rocana's propaganda is: deviants are now sitting in the acharya's seat being worshipped as good as God. Rocana never wanted to see these leaders have a lesser designation, just like ISKCON's bogus gurus themselves do not want to adopt a lesser designation. In short, Rocana is a de facto bogus GBC guru cheer leader.

To his credit however, Rocana criticizes maya ISKCON's bogus gurus, of course even Kirtanananda ex-swami criticized the other gurus. Rocana has no real idea of what should be done, he sometimes says we should not worship maya ISKCON's gurus, while simultaneously he insists we should not worship Srila Prabhupada either because that is the bogus "church of ritvik." So in the end he promotes the worship of nothingness, worship nobody, this is mayavada. And for this reason we find Rocana has no actual following. We can see clearly nobody writes to his Sampradaya Sun News saying, ok we are going to follow your idea, worship nothingness. So Rocana is against both the maya ISKCON gurus and against the worship of Srila Prabhupada, therefore he has no siddhanta and thus no one can follow his siddhanta, he has none.

Of course his criticism of these bogus gurus is de facto good for us, and in that sense he is helping us more than hurting us. At the same time our "Srila Prabhupada worship idea" is expanding like anything and we are getting new followers every day, because unlike Rocana we at least have some idea of what we are saying. In sum, Rocana says we need a live guru, and yet every day he posts horrible criticisms of his live gurus, so he is arguing with his own shadow.

Our main complaint is that Rocana confuses the public since he cannot choose one side or the other in the battle. For example, at this time (July 2011) -- Rocana is favoring Dayarama dasa, the biggest legal guard dog, spokesman and cheer leader for the worship of homosexual pedophile acharya's program. Dayarama is a huge supporter of the bogus ISKCON GBC and their idea that Lord Krishna's acharyas are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And Rocana therefore supports Dayarama's arguments against Madhu Pandit prabhu. Dayarama is the "ethical person" whereas since the ritviks worship Srila Prabhupada, the ritviks are engaged in cheating, fallacy, misrepresentation and so forth, since clearly Rocana favors the Dayarama party, i.e. the maya ISKCON GBC and their homosexual and pedophile acharya's process. And since the ritviks have been the number one opponents of the worship of homosexual pedophile messiahs, Rocana's real colors are now manifesting, he is all along a sympathizer with the deviants and their henchmen like Dayarama dasa.

Therefore Rocana simply confuses the innocent and turns them away from the whole idea of Krishna. He ruins people's faith in any branch of Krishna worship, so his real job seems to be -- chasing away everyone from Krishna.

And thus many of us assume Rocana still has support for Dayarama and the bogus gurus although he makes a show bottle of opposing them. As soon as Rocana speaks, he says for example that we need a living guru, just like Dayarama and the homosexual and pedophile acharya's process has said all along, so these deviants are Rocana's apparent masters and authorities and not Srila Prabhupada. And this is also why Rocana only allows posts from the spokesman for the pedophile acharya's program like Dayarama to speak, and he does not allow people like me to oppose Dayarama to make counter points. Why? Because clearly, Rocana favors Dayarama and his program of worship of illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's program. It is just that now Rocana's support of these deviations and his debauchery acharya's project has become so self evident that Rocana is now in a tail spin trying to explain himself for supporting that regime and its spokesmen like Dayarama.

In 1986, Rocana was a key member of ISKCON's "fifty man committee" which was implementing a "guru reform" to fix Rocana's wayward acharyas. In other words, members of Rocana's party are so foolish they actually think the acharyas are their subordinates, and that they are the "reform school" supervisors of Lord Krishna's successors. And perhaps this is why Rocana currently posts articles against some of the GBC's gurus at the present time, because -- he still thinks he is their "guru reformer" and that these articles are going to fix and repair his wayward acharyas. Rocana has never explained why he thought he could reform the acharyas in the first place, and what his current view on this topic is?

Anyway, lets judge the results of Rocana's "guru reform" program; Now the GBC regularly "admonishes, monitors, censures, suspends, and excommunicates" Lord Krishna's acharyas, and they also "vote in" replacements for their wayward acharyas -- somewhat like the Vatican votes in the Popes. Rocana is one of the inventors of "the church of voted in Pope acharyas" and he is criticzing us? In short, Rocana became the self appointed Dr. Frankenstein of wayward acharyas, following Sridhara Maharaja and other fools who think acharyas need "guru reform" and that they are going to repair the Lord's external manifestation as acharya. And Dayaram is another guru reformer, no wonder they are attracted to one another.

While Rocana is very expert at challenging others, he has never explained why he has supported the bogus 11 gurus, why he supported their bogus idea that gurus have zones, why he supported the bogus guru reform effort, why he supported the deviation that gurus are voted in, and why he is now supporting all of the above in the shape of Dayaram, and Dayarama's child molester acharyas program, ... even after it is now evident that the Dayarama / Rocana acharyas are child molesters, and so on and so forth? Why won't Rocana allow us to challenge him and Dayarama and their child molester acharyas program? Is it because Rocana is still in league and sympathy with them?

Thus, when it comes to "evidence tampering," Rocana has never even provided one shred of documented evidence that Srila Prabhupada appointed or ordered any of Rocana's "living gurus" to be Krishna's successors after his departure. We cannot even give Rocana the credit of "tampering" with evidence, he has shown no evidence at all -- that there was going to be anything more than an "administrative body" coupled with priests or ritiviks after the departure of Srila Prabhupada. We have offered Rocana an $108,000 reward since the 1980s to prove there was any such guru appointing and annointing that was ever ordered, and so far Rocana has not submitted even one sentence from anywhere in all of Srila Prabhupada's materials to prove any such "living guru" system was ever ordered.

In sum, from 1977 to the present day, Rocana has never produced even one shred of evidence that these leaders were ever "appointed or ordered" to be anything more than administrators -- by Srila Prabhupada. The existing evidence is: Srila Prabhupada ONLY appointed his leaders to act as his agents, proxies, administrative managers, and not as "God's successor gurus." Rocana is still trying to say that Srila Prabhupada's order for his leaders to act only as his agents, proxies, managers and priests is wrong because "this is not found in our (Krishna) tradition." In other words Rocana is one of the original co-creators of the post-1977 concocted ISKCON "tradition" that worships deviants as acharyas, and now he is trying to cover up for his major blunder. Worse, Rocana criticizes Srila Prabhupada as "not following the tradition." As we all know by now, the "tradition" of Rocana and his ilk is: debauchees are gurus, and that Rocana is going to act as a guru reform doctor Frankenstein and fix his guru monsters when they deviate. None of Rocana's bogus ideas are found in any shastra anywhere in the world.]

ROCANA: Although the Rtviks today consider the July 9th Letter to be Absolute, when it comes to a misspelling of one of the single most important words in the entire document, that apparently causes them no concern at all.

[PADA: One mis-spelled word is the whole essence of Rocana's counter claim agains our idea of worship of the pure devotee? This one mis-spelled word "proves" that Rocana and his debauchee and rubber stamped guru program is bona fide? The word priest aka ritvik may have been spelled in different ways in the various letters and documents of Srila Prabhupada, and that is because his different secretaries typed in different ways. Of course, what difference does any of these spelling mistakes make, since they are the mistakes of the typist's secretaries?

Rocana has not "proved" that our idea is wrong, that the leaders of ISKCON were ONLY appointed only as administrative priests, and not as gurus, rather -- Rocana has only "proved" that the leaders were prone to make mistakes in typing. Therefore -- this "mis-spelled word" problem does not "prove" that these leaders were appointed in a higher capacity? The fact that some ISKCON documents have different spelling problems "proves" that Rocana's post-1977 debauchee and child molester's acharyas program is bona fide and "in the tradition"?

No, it simply proves that some of these leaders and secretaries spelled words differently, a fact which anyone with any knowledge of the letters of Srila Prabhupada would know by now, there are many spelling errors. Never mind that, simply look at a number of Hindu web sites and you will find the word "ritvik" spelled differently there was well, this "proves" nothing at all, other than that Rocana is trying to prevaricate and not address the real point at hand, his "living guru project" has produced a pack of debauchees posing as acharyas.]

ROCANA: Not only is the term stated as rittik (not ritvik) in the July 9th Letter, it is a term provided in quotation marks. In this context, quotation marks are used to give emphasis to the word. Tamal Krishna Goswami composed the July 9th Letter and Srila Prabhupada signed it, and the letter he signed contained a word emphatically placed in quotations – "rittik" – which is a different word than the one Rtvik-vada relies upon.

[PADA: "Ritvik vada" is of course the bogus GBC guru's and Rocana's "code word" to disguise their attack upon Srila Prabhupada. "Rivik vada" really means -- "worship of the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada via priests." Of course Rocana and his ilk have been producing their own version of "the bona fide tradition" of their "living homosexual pedophile acharya's vada," and that is fine for them, but on no account is pure devotee worship to be allowed. "Ritvik vada" (worship of Srila Prabhupada) is bogus and poisonous, because the ritviks worship the bona fide pure devotee Srila Prabhupada.
According to Rocana anyone who worships Srila Prabhupada is a poison snake, basically he hates to see Srila Prabhupad being worshipped since Rocana is another Tamal Krishna clone. Rocana has always been a giant jack boot supporter of the homosexual pedophile messiahs and their anal reconstructive surgery of children program, and their similar jack boot's heros like Dayarama and perhaps he always will be. In short, Rocana helped cause all the molesting of children by suppressing us and he still is suppressing us and supporting Dayarama, i.e. the Mayapura program where small five years old children were beaten so badly with wet bamboos until they were bleeding all over their backs, Rocana still is in love with these people and their spokesman Dayarama. Rocana still says these child beater messiah programs are the ethical people and we are not.

Rocana hates the idea that pure devotee Srila Prabhupada will be worshipped, because then he and his bogus living gurus are not being worshipped. We say, who cares what Tamal Krishna said or did, he is a defective soul, and who cares what are the spelling mistakes in one letter? The whole idea of the Krishna religion is to worship the pure devotee, aka Srila Prabhupada, and Rocana has opposed that idea since 1977. In fact, Rocana has opposed us all along since 1977, which has paved the way for his "living gurus" i.e. homosexuals, pedophiles, murderers and deviants to be worshipped as gurus instead, all because of Rocana's party's vociferous objections to our idea of worship of the pure devotee.
Under Rocana's process of "living (molester) guru's regime," thousands of children were molested by this molester guru infrastructure and so on and so forth, Rocana is simply proud that he created all this chaos by repressing and mis-representing the worship of the pure devotee. Yes, ritvik vada is bogus because then we are worshipping a pure devotee, because homosexual peodphile guru vada is the correct process, and this is how Rocana and his party has destroyed ISKCON.]

ROCANA: So the point I was making by raising the subject in my article, which appears to elude Dusyanta dasa, is the fact that the Rtviks are basing their entire philosophy on this letter, and on one particular word in the letter – henceforward – which of course they interpret to mean 'for ever after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance'.

[PADA: "Henceforward" does not always mean "forever" nor has anyone of us ever said it means forever? Nor were most of us "ritviks" even citing the July 9th letter at the beginning, because many of us did not even have a copy of this document until the mid 1980s. We based our original position on the fact that Srila Prabhupada has said, hundreds of times, literally over and over again, that he is NOT going to appoint any gurus, and that he is ONLY going to make a Governing Body, which is of course de facto -- the ritvik idea.

And yes, this Governing Body was supposed to continue "henceforward," we all knew that in 1970? We all knew that Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered an administrative body as far back as 1970, but suddenly one letter written in 1977 changed the whole 1967-1977 idea? No, this letter simply confirmed what we all knew all along since 1970, there will ONLY be administrators and they will continue to manage the society after he departs "henceforward" or indefinately, or until another acharya appears etc, but otherwise yes "henceforward." Of course henceforward may mean a long time or almost forever, it is possible.]

ROCANA: And while there is interminable argument on this word "henceforward" (which is spelled correctly), there is rarely any mention about the word "rittik" and its spelling.

[PADA: Rocana's idea that we need to worship his debauchee living gurus is not mentioned in that letter or in anywhere else? Where is Rocana's idea of living gurus mentioned in this letter?]

ROCANA: In fact, members of the Rtvik camp actively work to hide the fact that this key word has a different spelling in the original July 9th Letter.

[PADA: We are not hiding anything, different letters spelled certain words in different ways, according to the secretary who was doing the typing, this does not change the whole siddhanta of the Krishna religion, that we have to stop worship of the pure devotee and worship Rocana's living guru imbroglio of debauchees?]

ROCANA: Take, for example, the presentation made on a Rtvik site run by the infamous Puranjana das -- Under the banner, "Original Letter of July 9, 1977", he provides a copy of the letter followed by the Rtviks' analysis of its contents. Not only does he conveniently change the actual wording in his version – changing both the spelling and eliminating the quotation marks around "rittik" – he also neglects to point this fact out in the supposedly careful analysis that follows. This is clearly a case of changing the words of the pure devotee's letter, dishonestly and out of convenience.

[PADA: The person doing the typing is not a pure devotee nor does Srila Prabhupada ever say the people typing his letters are free from defects? Where does Rocana get the idea that the people typing Prabhupada's letters are pure devotees? We corrected a typing error, and did see any reason why we had to make a lengthy extrapolation of this fact? How does a typing error justify Rocana and his foolish program of living gurus, appointed gurus, reformed gurus, debauchee gurus etc.?]

ROCANA: To really appreciate the hypocrisy behind this changing of the original July 9th Letter's text, one only needs to read the commentary that follows on the above-mentioned webpage. Note the great emphasis placed on exactness of terminology, semantics, definitions, and the preciseness of what Srila Prabhupada conveyed in this letter ... except for that one key word, which they changed and obfuscated. That is not mentioned.

[PADA: We never said we were only relying on the July 9th letter at all, Srila Prabhupada said way back in the early 1970s that after he departs there will only be and administrative body, aka ritviks, and these leaders were already conducting the ritvik initiations and so "do not change anything." This is what Srila Prabhupada stated all along from the late 1960s and the July 9th 1977 letter simply confirms what he said all along. Meanwhile, Rocana has zero proof that Srila Prabhupada ordered Rocana's living molesters pooja program?]

ROCANA: They even provide an exhaustive list of all the alternate spellings of "rtvik" found in Srimad Bhagavatam, but they fail to mention that they have changed the word from what appeared in the letter Srila Prabhupada actually signed. This is their idea of "straightforward and indisputable".

[PADA: Rocana's debauchee living gurus are straightforward? What is his idea of straightforward?]

ROCANA: While the Rtviks rail on and on about how the non-believers are great offenders because they will not take 100%, as it is, without change, the precise instructions of the July 9th Letter, here we see that they are engaged in wholesale cheating on that very topic. [For the record, here is a PDF version of the webpage.]

[PADA: Right, anyone who has not accepted Rocana and his living homosexual pedophile acharyas program has been harassed like this since 1977, no wonder so many children were molested under the harassing jack boots of people like Rocana. As soon as we came out and challenged Rocana and his molester guru / messiahs program, he was immediately defending that program and saying we are the bogus party, which simply empowered the molester messiahs and still does. Rocana empowered the mass molesting of children by suppressing us and he is proud of that.]

ROCANA: This lack of ethics goes to the heart of the Rtvik camp.

[PADA: Right, we said worship of homosexual pedophiles as gurus is bogus and so we are the people "without ethics" because Rocana caused the mass molesting of thousands of children with his bogus guru reform which reinistated a known pedophile as Rocana's "reformed acharya," and the reformers excommunicated me and Sulochana so that the Rocana reformed party could assassinate those of us who did not agree with their pedophile worship process. Who in Rocana's opinion is the person who has ethics? Dayarama, the biggest supporter of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's project on earth.]

ROCANA: Not only is Puranjana one of the prominent members of the West Coast Rtviks, he has also been for many years the close confidant of Yasodanandana dasa, who is now actively engaged in bridge-building between the Bangalore Rtviks and the West Coast Rtviks. Given all the credibility problems Madhu Pandit dasa is currently struggling with, he might want to reconsider his association with Rtviks who are so blatantly deceiving the devotees about the actual instructions of the Spiritual Master.

[PADA: What is the instruction of Srila Prabhupada? Rocana never ever tells us what was ACTUALLY ordered then? Rocana first of all says the order is: to worship his bogus zonal and molester messiahs program. Then he says wait, now we have to worship my reformed molester messiahs program and Rocana is the new Dr. Frankenstein fix-it doctor of that program. Then Rocana says, here is my next rabbit in the hat trick, never mind, just wait for the next living guru to appear, and he might appear in the next seventy two kalpas, nobody knows. Then Rocana says wait, let us support Dayarama and the worship of illicit sex with taxi drivers in the holy dham messiahs program. Where was ANY of this ordered? It was not ordered at all, this is ALL a pack of lies.]

ROCANA: As we have become painfully aware thanks to the dispute over changes to Srila Prabhupada's perfect books, changing even a word is highly offensive and dangerous. Yet the Rtviks have been doing just that.

[PADA: ROCANA thinks because sometimes ritvik was mis-spelled by Srila Prabhupada's various secretaries, this is the biggest crime of the century, but Rocana's supporting Dayarama and the molester messiahs program and suppressing our complaints of that program, which leads to mass molesting of children, is wonderful service to God?]

ROCANA: Of course, we cannot put all the blame on Puranjana das for this bending of the truth (although it's a pastime he has raised to an art form): The Hare Krishna Society founded by Yasodanandana das and associates employs the same cheating tactic, in their Analysis of the July 9th Letter, one of the 'Fundamental Documents' of their organization. Their version of the Letter states: "... He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as " ritvik "- representative of the acarya". This analysis is listed as one of the "Fundamental Documents" on their website.

[PADA: And that is what Srila Prabhupada said all along, I will make a managerial body, and my books will give the "divyam jnanam which destroys sins" (diksha) and that is the fundamental idea Srila Prabhupada said all the time. What else did he order then if not that? Rocana now says that Srila Prabhupada's books have no potency to give divyam jnanam which destroys sins (ie diksha), he says people are not getting any diksha at all from the books, ok, are they getting diksha from Rocana's living molester messiahs program? Where is the divyam jnanam coming from in Rocana's new process, he never tells us since 1977?]

ROCANA: A similarly contrived statement is included in the Hare Krishna Society's core manifesto, 'Srila Prabhupada Siddhanta', which quotes this slightly different version of the July 9th Letter: "He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "ritvik" - representative of the acarya."

[PADA: That is what Srila Prabhupada said all along since 1970, I will have some representatives after I am gone, yes, not successors, representatives, where was Rocana for all these years?]

ROCANA: Madhu Pandit dasa and ISKCON Bangalore are perpetuating the deception by presenting falsified text of the July 9th Letter in their bhakta program, as seen in the written test they use, entitled "Harinam Diksa Question Paper", which states: "He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "ritvik -representative of the acharya."

[PADA: Right, Rocana wants us to believe Srila Prabhupada appointed debauchees which required fixing by Dr. Frank-o-Rocana-stein and his failed reform movement.]

ROCANA: Madhudvisa dasa – a champion defender against Jayadvaita Swami's changes to Srila Prabhupada's books – has included articles in his website that include falsified quotes of the July 9th Letter, like this article by Mahesh das, which says: "He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "RITVIK–REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA".

[PADA: That is what the May 28th conversation says, after I am gone there will be officiating acharyas, when Tamal asked if these people are going to be ritviks, the answer was -- yes. What other order was given?]

ROCANA: And this one by Gauridas Pandit das, which says: "He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "ritvik-representative" of the acarya".

[PADA: Gauridasa was there, Rocana was not there?]

ROCANA: You will even find a falsified version in a 2007 article by Mahesh Raja posted in the Sampradaya Sun: "Ritvik - **Representative**", in which he quotes the July 9th Letter this way: "He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as "ritvik--representative of the acarya." We extended an invitation to debate guru-tattva (including this matter of devious semantics) with Mahesh Raja prabhu, but he would not engage us.

[PADA: No, we invited Rocana to debate us in 1996 and he refuses to debate us at all? He refuses to even accept our $108,000 reward offer made in the mid 1980s. Rocana has never publicly debated any of us ever, he simply deletes our e-mails and ignores us, and goes back to citing his actual gurus Tamal and Bhavananda -- that we need "the living guru," because Tamal and Bhavananda are and always have been Rocana's real authority.]

ROCANA: We are not talking here simply about words changed in a paraphrased version of the July 9th Letter -- many of these examples are changed text in a presentation of the actual letter itself. And while there is variation in the different bogus versions of the July 9th Letter text, they all have one thing in common: none of them bears a footnote that admits the words have been changed to suit someone's agenda. The pattern of deception is obvious.

[PADA: A mis-spelled letter is all Rocana is standing on now?]

ROCANA: The deception becomes even more clear when we isolate the altered lines from each of the examples given above, and compare them to one another. What becomes very evident is that the proliferation of falsified versions of the July 9th Letter is not simply a matter of 'someone did it, and everyone else copied it'. It's not that someone thought they would correct a typo and post an edited version of the Letter, which everyone else then copy/pasted and duplicated. No, that is not the case.

[PADA: We never even needed the July 9th letter, Srila Prabhupada said he was not going to appoint ANY gurus and that there would only be administators (i.e. a church council and priests) all along.]

ROCANA: Needless to say, this is a classic example of why one should never take Rtvik-vada at face value, or take the Rtviks on their word without doing your own research.

[PADA: Right, no one should worship a pure devotee, they should follow the Rocana and Dayarama program of worship of genital sucking of taxi drivers acharyas in the holy dham.]

ROCANA: Devotees must take personal responsibility for the siddhanta they accept, and then preach to others. And that includes all the evidence a position is based upon.

[PADA: And Rocana's position is clear, he is still in league with the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children and their promoters like Dayarama.]

ROCANA: We will continue this article in a segment to follow, addressing in more detail the contents of Dusyanta dasa's article and our own position on the May 28th Conversation and the July 9th Letter.
* The document, "Analysis of Srila Prabhupada's Last Will and July 9th Letter" by the Prabhupadanugas originally appeared online in the Vada section of While the document was released in 1995, to the best of our knowledge, it was listed as 1997 at one point, in our Vada index. We think that was an error, however, and it was actually a 1995 release.

[PADA: Yep Rocana will continue to lick the jack boots of his molester messiahs program for all eternity. In 1977 Rochana was one of the 11 "guru's" bigest cheer leaders, who insisted that the 11 were appointed as gurus, but he has never shown us any evidence that the 11 were appointed as gurus? Nor has Rocan ever shown even a shred of evidence of what was actually ordered? Nor has he ever made a position paper explaining exactly what was ordered in 30 years?

Rocana simply says that the "tradition" is to have living gurus, and the living gurus Rocana provided for us turned out to be his homosexual, child molester, drug addict and deviant pals. Rocana has not even admitted that he was wrong to say these ritviks, agents or proxies were -- gurus? In other words, what Rochana is still saying is that Srila Prabhupada commited an error by appointing unqualified people to be gurus. Rochana still insists his bogus idea -- that Srila Prabhupada wanted conditioned souls to be his guru successors is correct, and he wants us to "prove" that Srila Prabhupada did NOT appoint Rochana's homosexual and deviant pals as acharyas. We have to "prove" that Krishna and Srila Prabhupada do not want bogus people to be acharyas?

We have to "prove" that these 11 were never meant to be gurus, which means Rochana still thinks the 11 were appointed as gurus, which is what he has been saying all along since 1977. That means Rocana is still saying that he was right to promote his pals, ok his homosexual and pedophile pals, as acharyas, because according to Rocana that is what was ordered, or that was the implied order of Srila Prabhupada. Of course later on Rochana was a member of the fifty man committee to "reform" his bogus appointed acharyas, because Rocana's appointed gurus were engaged in illicit sex even with children and other deviations, so Rocana then thought he had become the witch doctor repair man of acharyas. Rocana self-appointed himself as the person who "reforms and fixes" broken down acharyas. In other words Rocana thinks he is like God, he appoints gurus, he remedies broken down gurus, he is the fix-all master surgeon who repairs fallen down into illicit sex acharyas.

NOTE: Rocana and his Dayarama program wants Krishna's deity to live in a ghetto: The legal battle of the Bombay its-con (the worshippers of illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas) and Bangalore ISKCON (the worshippers of pure devotees) is a good example of why many of the temples in the usa have so many problems like, bad plumbing, bed bugs, mice, rats and cock roaches. Frank thinks we need to quit serving Krishna and feed his meat eating lawyer's system and let the temples fall into ruin, to uphold his program of worship of homosex with taxi drivers in the holy dham acharya's process, and not take care of the Krishna deity. Why does Frank want us to worship his homosex with taxi drivers in the holy dham acharya program at all? Why does Frank want us to neglect the deity and spend all of Krishna's money on Frank and his meat eating legal system? A very nice devotee with a crippled leg went to a temple recently and when he needed to go to the store to get his medications, there was no temple vehicle to take him there, the temple has not even got a car, and we ALL know why that is, because Frank does not want Krishna and His temples to have any car at all, Frank only wants to buy new Mercedes for his meat eating lawyers so the Krishna temples will have no cars at all. Frank does not worship God, he only worships the meat eating legal system and he has never worshiped Krishna one day of his life. Frank dedicated his life to make Krishna live with the bed bugs and rats so his lawyers can live in mansions, Frank wants mansions for lawyers and he wants Krishna to be in the ghetto. Frank has dedicated his life to putting Krishna in a ghetto, and now he wants Bangalore deity to have the same ghetto problem Frank has made other deities live with, rats, bed bugs, mice and no car either. As soon as Franks sees the Bangalore deity is being taken care of nicely, he immediately wants that deity to suffer and be in Franks' deity ghetto program. Why does Frank hate Krishna and His deity form? Why does Frank want Krishna to live in a ghetto and his expensive lawyers to live in mansions? ys pd]

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  1. I wouldn't believe a word of it. Pada juggles the facts and changes the comments etc like a work of ego fiction. You can't believe a word he says, as he actually changes everything you say to suit his derangements, so many lies.


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