Saturday, January 19, 2013

Shesha Dasa from Russia writes wrongs

Another Opinion About the GBC


Jan 18, 2013 — RUSSIA

I personally am deeply saddened by the attitude of Gadadhar das and GBC criticizers similar to him. Although some of the former or present GBC members sometimes are not up to the standard we are expecting from them, although somebody can think that today's gurus are authorized or not, it is thanks to the selfless service of many of Srila Prabhupada's disciples whom Gadadhar criticizes that today, me and many thousands of devotees in my country are having a chance to practice devotion to Krishna.

[PD: First of all, these GBC gurus bankrupted and ruined the Krishna religion in the West, particularly USA and Europe. Then they simply ran away while ISKCON was burning to the ground over here, and they fled to places where no one knew about their scandals like Russia and India, so they could prey on a whole new innocent people there. 

Notice that folks like BHAKTI VIKAS SWAMI write all kinds of papers how the GBC is not preaching in the West, and BVKS says ISKCON is a bogus HINDU-IZED operation, but notice, he stays in India, has almost all Indian bodied disciples, and has no interested in building anything in the West himself?] 

SD: What did these criticizers do for the people in our country? I personally first time hear their name! Did they pray for our spiritual well-being or come to our country undercover, so as not to be caught by secret police? Or maybe they red Bhagavatam and Gita two times a day for us plus kirtans, plus meetings, plus travel every third day to a new city?

[PD: The critics are trying to warn you what they did here will also happen there, they burned ISKCON to the ground over here and they are burning it to the ground with all kinds of lawsuits in India, and they will burn it everywhere eventually, and we are simply warning you about that process.]   
SD: Since the beginning of preaching in Russia there have being distributed many millions of Srila Prabhupada's books! There are temples in every city! There are many thousands of devotees! ISKCON long time is not only temples in USA, it is worldwide! Today's ISKCON is not society of only Srila Prabhupada's disciples, it is a worldwide movement of SRILA PRABHUPADA'S FOLLOWERS!

[PD: This is totally bogus, as soon as we say we are devotees of Srila Prabhupada in ISKCON we are kicked out, beaten up and sometimes killed. We were all kicked out for saying people need to follow Srila Prabhupada.] 

SD: Regarding your term "rubber stamped gurus", that is very offensive to me personally and many thousands of others. 

[PD: So the GBC system of guru voting is bona fide? Then why do most of their gurus fall into illicit behaviors if they are voting in gurus?]

SD: It is our practical experience that we have got real initiation into Bhakti. 

[PD: Most of the GBC gurus has fallen into illicit behaviors, they can not even provide real bhakti for themselves, what to speak of others?]

SD: Enviers can say tons of nonsense, but our real practical experience shows opposite. I personally have seen countless examples of how Krishna showers His love and affection to devotees in our country, how He reciprocates with us. 

[PD: And Krishna is reciprocating with us because we are making much progress exposing these bogus GBC gurus and getting people back to the worship of Srila Prabhupada.]

SD: I have seen how bhaktas prayers are answered and how miracles happened practically every day. I know many devotees, initiated by ISKCON Gurus, who are deeply surrendered to our Lord Krishna and got serious realizations in spiritual life. 

[PD: Right, we get letters from these people every day, they tell me they are going to worship Srila Prabhupada now and stay in ISKCON, but do not give their names of they will be banned and beaten up. You are saying they are sincere, and we agree, so we tell them beware of the giant secret police gestapo's jack boots of the GBC gurus, their program will ban, beat and even kill the devotees of Prabhupada, as has occured.]

SD: We practically see that our process is working. People in our country got really introduced or initiated into the practice of devotional service to Sri Krishna by those whom you people are criticising. How dare you people to tell us that our gurus are rubber-stamped! It is we who choose them, not you. It is for us to decide what to do next.

[PD: The GBC gurus are saying that the parampara is full of illicit sex with men, women and children, that is not real service, that is an attack on the guru parampara and Krishna.]

SD: On the example of my friends I see that process is working even if your diksha guru is not up to standards! So far we are Srila Prabhupada's followers, we have all chances. We got same mantras that you people have, we are singing same bhajans, doing same sadhana and are reading same Srila Prabhupada's books! We are hearing every day same lectures by Srila Prabhupada and of his faithful followers. And when I see that somebody wants to deprive me of this blissful life, that somebody tries to destroy my spiritual achievements, it makes me furious.

[PD: Well the GBC kicked out all the people who were already doing that here in the USA, their temples are empty and bankrupted, they cannot stand having us people who worship HDG, and they are now over there because they ruined the whole ISKCON program over here.]
SD: Krishna sent to us exactly these devotees to teach us, NOT OTHERS. Who are we to judge His will! But opposite, we will thank Him and Srila Prabhupada for that and glorify Them! (O! Yes, for your consideration. It is interesting that the great Shyamananda Goswami, a direct follower of the Goswamis of Vrindavan and acharya in Orissa in later part of his life, got not one, but three wives. What about of his state of guruship?).

Recently I personally spoke to one of ex-Guru and GBC for some areas in Russia and told him that I'm very much grateful for his service to my country and his support to me personally. I know for sure that this attitude is shared by most of his ex-disciples in my country and worldwide.

[PD: OK ex-guru is totally foolishness, he never was a guru. What the GBC gurus are doing is good for us, they get people interested in Krishna and then those people read our web sites and we re-convert them to worship the real guru Srila Prabhupada.] 

SD: I'm not an idealist and know ISKCON inside out. I was Temple President and was removed. But I want all devotees who are reading this site to know another opinion, another attitude. ISKCON is not a society of ideal men. Quite opposite, it is society of un-ideal men, who are trying to live an ideal life. In our lifetime we most probably will never see ideal ISKCON, if it is at all possible in the age of Kali. But what we have now is already a miracle!

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[PD: The guru must be ideal, or he is not a guru, he is a cheater, that is what Srila Prabhupada says, and that is all we are saying. ys pd]

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