ISKCON's Troubles Are Not The Troubles Of The Prabhupadanugas (by Hasti Gopala dasa)
It's very easy to run a society that has vast fortunes pilfered over the years from the founding acharya Srila Prabhupada and his disciples while driving them out with sticks and threats. With a large cadre of bogus gurus established as Diksa gurus and the foundation of lies and deception, managing the perception of peace and co-operation is relatively easy.
It's very easy to run a society that has vast fortunes pilfered over the years from the founding acharya Srila Prabhupada and his disciples while driving them out with sticks and threats. With a large cadre of bogus gurus established as Diksa gurus and the foundation of lies and deception, managing the perception of peace and co-operation is relatively easy.
Look at communist China for example. They appear to be very together with their vast wealth and political power as well as a powerful military machine yet suffer hundreds of small rebellions a month and manage slave labor camps. No empire in Kali Yuga manages to stay in power for more than 2 to 3 hundred years save and except the Roman Empire. The present ISKCON will also fade or suddenly drop from sight.
With no wealth what to speak of, a scattered and destroyed population of devotees thanks to the criminal minds in ISKCON, have had their original books banned from the world and suffered from other sordid historical crimes by ISKCON. Of course they appear to be peaceful and well organized while we Prabhupadanugas struggle for some semblance of peace and co-operation.
Just like the other day someone said that I was envious of a particular swami. I said, "You're God d**** right I am!" If I had his bank account, time and staff I could feed 10,000 people a year prasadam here in Toronto as well as provide three Gita classes a week with books and paraphernalia for new Bhaktas at %75 of the cost. The only reason the Prabhupadanugas seem to be in dis-aray, which I do not agree with, is because we are free to speak, free to question, free to debate, free to freely critique and are free to associate with those we like to.
ISKCON, members cannot do any of the above because they live in a closed society. ISKCON temples are not independent and cannot even on a personal level make any decision on anything unless they contact their GBC, lots of peace with that process. There are thousands of REAL ISKCON devotees everywhere. ISKCON does not decide who is who, who is right, who is wrong, who can be banned, who can be worshiped, who gets money or who gets anything, in their case Maya does. ISKCON's expert psyop all these years has been to convince everyone that "they" are authorities, ( they have no authority ) and that Srila Prabhupada is dead and gone, therefore no disciple of Srila Prabhupada's has any longer an on going relationship with him, that is the illusion. The rest bought into it and we did not because we are more intelligent than they are. Srila Prabhupada is the authority not the bogus ISKCON.
HH BhaktiVikas Swami admits here that ISKCON is not the peaceful society that they portend to be, “the Ritvikites' inability to work together, their splintering into multiple groups, demonstrates that they have no solution to ISKCON's troubles.”
It is again a designed general sweeping statement that the Prabhupadanugas do not have the ability to work together which is not true, most of us are. ISKCON does not approve of independence as Prabhupada did so we are labeled as "splinter groups", again a clever misleading use of words. Ask yourself why what we do as the most dedicated followers of Srila Prabhupada on the planet would have any interest in solutions for ISKCON's troubles? If ISKCON has troubles then why would we be interested in solving them, we apparently,according to him, we have enough troubles of our own. That it has been declared by this boob that we have "no solution" is an outright lie. Let him get off his duff, take his donated money and go to every ISKCON temple on the planet and invite every local Prabhupadanugas to that ISKCON temple and have a 7 days free and open bitching session.
HH BhaktiVikas Swami admits here that ISKCON is not the peaceful society that they portend to be, “the Ritvikites' inability to work together, their splintering into multiple groups, demonstrates that they have no solution to ISKCON's troubles.”
It is again a designed general sweeping statement that the Prabhupadanugas do not have the ability to work together which is not true, most of us are. ISKCON does not approve of independence as Prabhupada did so we are labeled as "splinter groups", again a clever misleading use of words. Ask yourself why what we do as the most dedicated followers of Srila Prabhupada on the planet would have any interest in solutions for ISKCON's troubles? If ISKCON has troubles then why would we be interested in solving them, we apparently,according to him, we have enough troubles of our own. That it has been declared by this boob that we have "no solution" is an outright lie. Let him get off his duff, take his donated money and go to every ISKCON temple on the planet and invite every local Prabhupadanugas to that ISKCON temple and have a 7 days free and open bitching session.
He can't because THE GBC GURUS ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE NO SOLUTIONS! You know why? Because they have disconnected themselves for 37 years from the leadership of Srila Prabhupada, we have not. We may rock the boat but we are all on the same boat.
IF EVERYONE IS THINKING THE SAME THEN NO ONE IS THINKING
IF EVERYONE IS THINKING THE SAME THEN NO ONE IS THINKING
General George S. Patton Jr.
No one should ever again compare Prabhupadanugas with ISKCON, there is no comparison, that can be admitted, in our favour, it is simply a futile exercise designed by ISKCON and it's sympathizers to try and weaken the resolve of those who are the only ones really helping the world and who are still really in contact with Srila Prabhupada on a daily basis. Use of that energy can be better spent following Srila Prabhupada's teachings and instructions. We have a new Gita Guide coming out, a new Bhakta Handbook, and are preparing to have a special series of Prabhupada lectures digitized. We have three people a month here at home, so we are doing at least something, and we are ISKCON.
If Someone Tells You Or Treats You Like You Are Not In ISKCON, Tell Them That Prabhupada Said That "ISKCON IS Where You Are Chanting Hare Krishna"
Mother Yamuna says: "After settling in Oregon with my Godsister Dinatarine, Srila Prabhupada, while pronouncing us 'independent' to a concerned God brother, at the same time twice rebuked us when we approached him to leave. 'You westerners are so restless,' he admonished. 'Why can't you remain in the same place? Stay where you are.' We questioned, 'But Srila Prabhupada, they are saying that if we aren't in ISKCON, we lose your blessings and cannot make advancement.' Prabhupada replied, 'ISKCON is where you are chanting the holy name - that is ISKCON.' We rejoined: 'They are saying we don't have any association here and are therefore in maya.' He replied: 'Association can be two or two hundred. If you are two and compatible, you can become perfect in Krsna consciousness. If you are 200 and are not, then no one will make advancement.'"
Srila Prabhupada is our leader, the holy name is our main weapon
And the original Bhagavad Gita As It Is, is our war plan. And for the support of Srila Prabhupada, with a firm reliance on the protection of Krsna, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honour.
The Oath of Honor for The First Hanuman Rangers.
Ys Hasti Gopala Dasa
No one should ever again compare Prabhupadanugas with ISKCON, there is no comparison, that can be admitted, in our favour, it is simply a futile exercise designed by ISKCON and it's sympathizers to try and weaken the resolve of those who are the only ones really helping the world and who are still really in contact with Srila Prabhupada on a daily basis. Use of that energy can be better spent following Srila Prabhupada's teachings and instructions. We have a new Gita Guide coming out, a new Bhakta Handbook, and are preparing to have a special series of Prabhupada lectures digitized. We have three people a month here at home, so we are doing at least something, and we are ISKCON.
If Someone Tells You Or Treats You Like You Are Not In ISKCON, Tell Them That Prabhupada Said That "ISKCON IS Where You Are Chanting Hare Krishna"
Mother Yamuna says: "After settling in Oregon with my Godsister Dinatarine, Srila Prabhupada, while pronouncing us 'independent' to a concerned God brother, at the same time twice rebuked us when we approached him to leave. 'You westerners are so restless,' he admonished. 'Why can't you remain in the same place? Stay where you are.' We questioned, 'But Srila Prabhupada, they are saying that if we aren't in ISKCON, we lose your blessings and cannot make advancement.' Prabhupada replied, 'ISKCON is where you are chanting the holy name - that is ISKCON.' We rejoined: 'They are saying we don't have any association here and are therefore in maya.' He replied: 'Association can be two or two hundred. If you are two and compatible, you can become perfect in Krsna consciousness. If you are 200 and are not, then no one will make advancement.'"
Srila Prabhupada is our leader, the holy name is our main weapon
And the original Bhagavad Gita As It Is, is our war plan. And for the support of Srila Prabhupada, with a firm reliance on the protection of Krsna, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honour.
The Oath of Honor for The First Hanuman Rangers.
Ys Hasti Gopala Dasa
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