Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Cyvana swami confirms Prabhupadanuga principle

Thank you prabhus, 

As we have told you before, through Cyavana swami (Camp Garuda FL ) he said that after initiating for Srila Prabhupada for years on his behalf, he asked Srila Prabhupada, "What do we do when you are no longer physically with us"? Srila Prabhupada said: "same thing." I told that to Rocana but he did not believe it. We see Cyavana swami weekly, the story does not change.
When Cyvana was told that some say, why didn't Srila Prabhupada initiate on behalf of his guru, Cyavana swami became very strongly animated explaining that Srila Prabhupada is on the level of the six goswamis, (gopis), and so he fits the description of guru given in the samsara prayers we sing daily. 

The samsara prayer describes the spiritual nature of a true guru. Anything less than that is not within the mood of the devotional service program given to us, bestowed upon us, by Srila Prabhupada. That is why over 50% of Srila Prabhupada's disciples left iskcon when the cheater guru's took over the Hare Krsna movement. The mood was no longer Srila Prabhupada's. 

The original infamous 11 bogus zonal acharya's could easily have continued initiating on behalf of Srila Prabhupada, and still they would have remained in control and still taken some adoration, but that was not enough for them. They were compelled to take on the post of full guru on the level of Srila Prabhupada and they demanded worship of themselves on the same level as was, and still does, Srila Prabhupada.
They even went so far as to demand the same exalted level of worship from their own God brothers and sisters, which was a brand new height of ignorance, greed, and perverted lust, thus assisting Kali in bringing down real religion. At that time these 11 became the promoters of anti religious principles by demanding worship of regular conditioned souls. They became friends of Kali instead of Krsna.
I was shocked to see on the credits of Sadaputa's CD ROM explaining the Vedic nature of the universe, the credit for translating the sanskrit was given to one of the original infamous iskcon guru's, Hrydayananda swami. And Srila Prabhupada is not even mentioned although it was he, Srila Prabhupada, who translated the 5th canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam! 

Hrdayananda G, once said to the assembled devotee's, "I'll take what ever I can get," and he sure did. I personally listened to him say on tape that Pradyumna prabhu is a demon for writing his famous letter to Satsvarupa g. At Saranagati BC during a meeting wherein 30 or so devotee's all expressed concerns to HG, he flatly denied having said so. 

These people are like well spoken actors on the level of ex-president Bush, who are expert in saying anything that suits their personal goals. Satsvarupa g?, he was found out to have had a girl friend for many years, but still he posted himself as a guru on Srila Prabhupada's level and accepted supreme adoration as good as God. Others, of the original 11, they simply left iskcon, when they had accumulated enough money.
Still now they are wealthy from this misdeed. 

One became murdered (stabbed to death and de capitated), by his own disciple. Another died violently by crashing into a tree. Many of us Srila Prabhupada disciples disliked these original 11 immensely for what they did after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance. Others work closely with them for material gain since they are still adored within iskcon. And then other devotee's still look up to them, those that are left, as great devotee's.
When intelligent persons study and examine what occured in iskcon after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance, they dismiss iskcon as being a corrupt religious institution. Now, many years later it is doing better, but still vestiges of the infamous past remain. ie worship of non fully self realized persons. by (****** dasa)


  1. This is all clear and truthfully correct
    your servant pita das

  2. As we see above the author brings in President Bush. The author identifies himself as a "liberal". This is amazing because the Democratic Party in the United States is pro-abortion and the present president even voted while senator for abortion after birth.In the 18th Ch of Bhag-gita it is explained that a demon does not know the difference between religion and non-religion. We see above speculation that because AC Bhaktivedanta was a "gopi" he should now be the "last guru" This we do not find in sastra. Arjuna was not acting in the mood of gopis at Kuruksetra yet HDG repeatedly told us to accept Krsna as Arjuna did. The author and his ilk wish to have a "position". In Iskcon they were denied so that have formulated or joined a scheme to destroy Iskcon. Unfortunate souls they never understood that there is no "position" in Iskcon. Even guru is not a "position". HDG AC Bhaktivedanta did not create a new religion-that would make him an offender to the Holy Name. By and by one who surrenders will be directed by Krsna and those who mislead are already misled. Krsna and his instructions in Bhag-gita are non-different. He has instructed there that we must find a spiritual master and surrender. We therefore must do this and teach without adulteration. No excuse, real or imaginary can change this situation.-Mayesa dasa

  3. Mayesa, you are speculating. Again. The author does not say he is a liberal or whatever. He is saying politicians make things up, and he is correct. You have never named the current guru you claim exists, I think I know why you cannot name your guru, your guru is hiding under a dumpster in Los Angeles, you better start checking every single one in the city and see if you can find him under there. That will keep you busy for a few hundred years and keep you from harassing and bugging the worship of Prabhupada. Let me know when you find your live guru, sheesh! ys pd


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