Ramkumar says:
Iskcon devotees enviousness to Srila Prabhupada:
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Iskcon devotees enviousness to Srila Prabhupada:
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Ramkumar: This is how I was thrown out of Iskcon: "Bhakti vriksha" (GBC) leaders were trying to satisfy women by declaring Srila Prabhupada’s teachings are controversial! Women were bitter towards Srila Prabhupada because he condemned free mixing of men-women, and he imposed the same restrictions as sastras like Manu samhita imposed.
These leaders were mixing freely with women, cutting jolly jokes. To satisfy them, they condemned Srila Prabhupada's teachings. I objected, quarreled with them for their critiquing Srila Prabhupada! Then, every one of them threatened me, and I was thrown out!
These leaders were mixing freely with women, cutting jolly jokes. To satisfy them, they condemned Srila Prabhupada's teachings. I objected, quarreled with them for their critiquing Srila Prabhupada! Then, every one of them threatened me, and I was thrown out!
[PADA: Right, anyone who supports the teachings of the Vedas is condemned in ISKCON. Of course, this same problem has spread all over India -- "freely mixing of men and women" -- this is commonly seen all over their Bollywood culture. Shastra says: mixing freely men and women is "putting butter into a fire." That is quite correct.
Look all around at all the fall downs of the big guru / sannyasa folks in ISKCON and the Gaudiya Matha, and look at the scandals of many other big "gurus" in India, and look at the horrendous record of abortions all over the world including India etc. Its not hard to figure out that this "mixing freely" is causing a problem.
Anyway its amazing, this poor fellow cited Srila Prabhupada (who cites Vedic scriptures) and he is booted out of ISKCON for citing -- the guru of ISKCON. Incidentally, a devotee from India wrote to tell us the mass abortions of females is causing a huge rise in the male population over there, and this is leading to more and more homosexuality, just like males become homosexuals in prisons. So this artificial suppression of proper heterosexual relations is making even more abominable problems.
That means shastra is correct, sex life should be regulated or else it gets out of control. Srila Prabhupada said thus in 1977, no more sannyasa and -- everyone should get married (i.e. regulate the sex urge). That is the idea of shastra. Of course the ultimate ideal of shastra is to become free of sex desire altogether by meditating on Krishna. Then, all of the above problems are solved simultaneously. Clearly, these alleged gurus are not meditating on Krishna, otherwise they would not be falling into illicit sex left, right and center. No wonder they are criticizing these injunctions. ys pd]
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