Reply to Pancaratna and ISKCON ICC Bureau (SRD)

Three Blind Mice

SRD: My reply to Pancaratna.
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Hare Krsna Pancaratna prabhu,

Thank your for your reply and for taking the time to point out my misunderstandings and clarify the position of this newly formed Indian CPO. In our previous exchanges I do not recall that you mentioned anything about your own qualifications, that is the reason why I assumed that you had none.

You spent much time defending yourself and attacking me, you even quote, albeit out of context, my letter posted on Puranjana's blog! That was amusing!

[PADA: Yep, many members of the GBC's -- "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs and acharyas" folks read our blog, but they never seem to even say one word to challenge us, perhaps because they know we have the facts behind us. 

OK the India ICC people wrote to tell me -- us mlecchas are not advanced enough to worship their living gurus (ok their anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's programs) like they are promoting. Even some professional media folks read our blog and they agree, the GBC has no good answer for our points, or they would have answered me already 45 years ago.]

But you hardly touched on the most important question I asked you. Why is it that Navin Krishna's team, a group of actual professionals, with years of experience, found a number of areas of grave concern in the Vrindavana Gurukula management whereas you found none?

PADA: That is why they had to make a separated India CPO, and de-fund the original CPO, and have the testimonies of some of the victim kids on a computer handily get stolen, and all sorts of odds and ends hi-jinks are always going on -- evidently to cover for their pedophile messiah's club. The problem now is, people are starting to catch on, compare notes, and they see -- this is a pattern of deceit.

Given Vrindavana's track record, and the credentials of the two teams, which report is more credible?

PADA: Yep, a friend of mine said he was aware of the anal reconstructive surgery problem in Vrndavana, but "if I say anything here, I will be dead." OK so it is their enforced program. But even Los Angeles temple leader Govinda Datta told me he sends his kids to Christian's school -- and not the GBC school -- "because I worry my kids will be molested in the Krishna's school." So it is not like "no one knows." Lots of them know. But promoting their pedophile messiah's guru club is a good business, and they just want to keep the money rolling in. Or what?

You wrote that you did not have the time to sit and interview the staff and the students, so you could only give an overall review of what you observed.
In short, what you are saying is that you did not make the time to prioritize the welfare of the children, so you simply relied on appearances to assess the school that has the worst track record in ISKCON. 

And you hope to be taken seriously?

This confirms my conclusion that you are not qualified for this job. Writing such a glaring report on the Vrindavana Gurukula without having carried out a painstakingly meticulous assessment was simply reckless! You gave a false sense that there is nothing to worry about.

PADA: There is never anything to worry about, ooops, except those of us exposing their molester empire, hence we get -- banned, beaten, chased with bats, vulture glares, threats and -- sometimes we get assassinated. That worked pretty good for awhile, but like all oppressive dictatorships, it starts to unravel at some stage. The lowly peons start to revolt. 

It seems that the only person on your team with any experience in the field of child protection is Daivi Prakriti mataji. I am told that she was asked to leave the SMIS school in Mayapur because she insisted on giving sex education to children as young as 6 years of age. She also managed to enter in conflict with the local devotees that serve in the school and lose her temper with a young boy in the school and gave the poor guy a screaming / scolding session. Hardly a promising start!

I attempted to address the importance of avoiding the conflicts of interest that arise from having CPO staff members that are also employed by the school, and you replied by saying that that devotee was appointed by Kamlesh Krishna.
This is a politician's reply that does not help anyone and cleverly avoids addressing the point raised.

PADA: Yep, it is the same guys wearing different hats, or the people they can control as their sycophants and lackeys.

Having people that are employed by the school, who also work for the CPO is a problem, because they will be forced to choose their loyalties between two competing interests, regardless of who appointed them!

You claim that you want to cooperate with the International CPO, but you were so busy bashing me that you forgot to address your deeply problematic statement:
“The ICC does not accept the CPO, not in this case (Lokanath) and not at all. We do not accept the ICPO as a body, and we do not accept Kamlesh Krishna as a leader”.

PADA: In other words, Lokanath has been a big player in making the "Mayapur GBC of West Bengal" program that makes all the other temples their subordinates, that way he can force the other temples to be loyal to their child beating and child raping program in Mayapur, according to eye witness victims and other reports. They are using black mail legal tricks to enforce their pedophile pooja program. And since I do not promote their worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as Krishna's acharyas, they kick me out.

How exactly do you envision your working relationship unfolding, when this is your attitude and you refuse to address it? Education and prevention are two very important aspects of the CPO service, however, you appear to misunderstand the way the important work the CPO does beyond that.

When there is good reason to suspect that the abuse of one or more children has taken place, the first step enjoined by the CPO is always to report to the local authorities. The role of the CPO in investigating the abuse of children is intended to fill the gap, in those situations where a case does not meet the threshold of evidence required to secure a criminal conviction.

This can be for a number of reasons, jurisdictions, sometimes a crime was committed abroad by a foreign national, or perhaps there are statutes of limitations that prevent the pursuit of historical cases, the victims may not wish to go through the ordeal of a police inquiry and re-live the trauma, the perpetrator is a minor etc...

But also situations where perpetrators have been found guilty and convicted in a criminal court and have served their time. Do we want convicted felons to serve in positions of authority in ISKCON? The court is not going to restrict or legislate that. That's the job of the CPO.

In short the work of the CPO is comparable to that of a Civil Court, where both the standard of evidence and the penalties that can be imposed are significantly lower.
The problem with the proposal put forth by yourself and the India Bureau, as I understand it is that you would dismiss any case that fails to secure a police conviction.

PADA: Yep, that is what they always say, take us to the police. Of course if you rat us out, like Sulochan did, then watch your back. We can make more Monkeys on a Stick. Then the Jayapataka people wrote to complain to me -- I cost them $100,000,000 in legal fees by helping various lawsuits. 

Why am I going to the authorities? Ummm, we should go to the authorites, but get kicked in the behind when we do so? They should have congratulated me for helping their victims. Meanwhile the LAPD told me -- these people will take you out, they will kill you, so stay away from Watseka. OK it is a violent pedophile messiah's cult, even the police can see that.

Lokanath's case is the perfect example, the GBC has conducted a number of comprehensive investigations. All these investigations have concluded that he is guilty of sexually abusing an 11 year old child. He has admitted this both in writing and verbally to several people.

The evidence of his guilt is compelling, but he cannot be prosecuted in a Indian court. You have clearly stated that you fully support Lokanath continuing to serve as a guru and a Sannyasi. But somehow you don't seem to be able to appreciate that this position of yours is incompatible with your aspiration to serve as the Director of Child protection for India.

PADA: It is a society that basically protects pedophiles and not children, that is more or less self evident to thousands and thousands of devotees, and millions and millions of the public -- who read about the molesting lawsuit.

Does this newly formed Indian CPO intend to overlook any and all such cases? Do you really think it is safe for children, that people who are known and confirmed child abusers, but have not been convicted in a court of law, are allowed to serve without any restrictions within ISKCON, have access to children and positions of authority?

I hope you are beginning to understand, why many devotees are deeply concerned and suspicious of the motives of this newly formed Indian CPO.
India has easily the worst track record for child abuse in ISKCON. Could you explain what exactly is the need for the Indian CPO to exist and operate entirely independently from the International CPO? How does this independence best serve the welfare and protection of these children?

I suppose that one viable option could be that you specialize yourself in the field of education and prevention and leave all the investigations and adjudications, that are not addressed by the police, to the International CPO.

I raised serious allegations about the Vrindavana Gurukula, all of the 3 top managers of the school Lila Purushottam, Radha Kant and Lila Govinda are accused of beating the students, which, by the way is illegal in India.

PADA: It is like a pervert magnet ain't it?

I wrote that in 2017 the CPO submitted a report to the GBC (The investigation was carried out in 2017 and the report was actually submitted in 2018) that listed around 60 cases of child abuse in the school managed by these very same people, that you praise so lavishly, and I also stated that one of the faculty members personally informed me that as of 2019 there were 45 open cases of child abuse in the Vrindavana Gurukula. You dismissed it as all hearsay without a shred of evidence...

If the protection and welfare of the children in the Vrindavana Gurukula was truly a concern for you, I would have expected a much less smug and dismissive reply. I would have expected that you would have left no stone un-turned to secure a copy of this 2018 report and that you would have reached out to the local Vrindavana CPT to find out if these allegations are true.

Your contemptuous response reinforces my concern that the protection of these children is not your priority, whatever it is, your priority is clearly something else.
You made a good point, you said that ideally the CPO needs to have a good relationship with the Bureau. You suggest, that you are a good fit for this job, because you have the trust of the Bureau.

PADA: The priority is to make big bucks by promoting a bogus cult. Same reason the tobacco industry leaders promote cigarettes, with no actual concerns for the victims of their products.

In principle I agree, with the help and support of the Bureau, the CPO could really do wonders in India. The problem of course is that the Bureau has a horrendous track record when it comes to prioritizing child protection!

Now the issue here is, what is the price that you are paying to earn this trust of the Bureau? We already know where you stand on the Lokanath case, this is likely why you have the trust of the Bureau in the first place! But how can we reasonably expect you to act, the next time you are faced with a child abuse case that the Bureau wants you to 'make disappear'?

Can we reasonably expect you to prioritize the protection of children, when you are not doing so in the case of Lokanath?

The fact that you do not see a problem with someone like Lokanath being allowed to continue serving as a Sannyai and a guru tells me everything I need to know to understand that you are a bad news for child protection in India!

You dismissed the concern I raised about the conflict of interests that arises by having an employee of the Gurukula work as the school's CPT representative, because otherwise you would have to acknowledge the conflict of interests that you face as a member of the Indian leadership that will make it very difficult for you to prioritize the protection of children when it is not politically convenient!

The Bureau needs to support the CPO, but in matters of child protection, the Bureau needs to follow the guidance of the CPO, regardless of the political pressures and considerations. If the support of the Bureau comes at the cost of compromising the integrity of the CPO, then it is too expensive.

Anything short of that will simply create more of the same problems we're all too familiar with. You may have some qualifications, but do you truly understand the importance child protection?

You say you are serious about child protection. Just how serious are we talking exactly? If you heard allegations that your children were being abused in the Gurukula, would you find the time to carry out a comprehensive investigation or would you dismiss them as hearsay?

Are you serious enough to sacrifice your career and status to protect these children? Are you serious enough to resign from all your other managerial positions so as to free yourself from any conflicts of interests, and make child protection your number 1 priority?

Enough find the humility to recognize that you are nowhere near ready to take on the monumental task of tackling the systemic child abuse in India and either resign or seek the help you need?

As the director of the new Indian CPO it is going to be challenging to say the least for you to retain a shred of credibility and support Lokanath at the same time. Are you serious enough to ensure that Lokanath is made to step down?
You were so preoccupied in trying to portray yourself in a good light and attacking me, that you didn't notice just how much your letter confirms the concerns I raised! 

PADA: The India ICC people wrote to the effect that taking out Lokanath would cause big disturbances for their India program, OK like for example, the money donations might decrease. These people are Kali servants who worship gold and not truth or anything else. 

I just got another report from a new devotee who said the big Prabhupada man who visited his temple was touching one of the young men there, and he reported it, and nothing was done. Same things going on all over the place in pedo-loka. Told ya!

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