Friday, March 9, 2012

Tripurari swami says I am an "aparadhi"

Tripurari swami: You did say it. Check the record. Are you reading my responses? It does not seem so from this reply. Prabhupada was self appointed! But I agree with you that you should point new people in the direction of someone who can deliver them, a realized soul. Look for one. They are out there. You might even find that one of them can serve as a suitable siksa guru for you. Meanwhile Prabhupada is not giving diksa anymore. He entered the nitya-lila. It is important to understand the implications of that.

[PADA: "They (more self-realized soul acharyas) are out there"? They who? Srila Prabhupada said (see quote below): amongst my God brothers NO ONE is qualified to be acharya (letter to Rupanuga). Yet Tripurari swami keeps saying BR Sridhara is a qualified guru. Where does Srila Prabhupada say, leave ISKCON and go find another guru somewhere else? Rather he said we must avoid his God brothers like Sridhara Maharaja, read the letter below! 

In 1977 Srila Prabhupada said that Sridhara Maharaja was a member of the Bagh Bazaar party, and that this party were severe offenders (see quote below). Moreover Srila Prabhupada said this Bagh Bazaar party made a homosexual into a guru which created chaos AND BEATINGS AND MURDERS in the Gaudiya Matha. And later this false guru process created the POISONING MURDER of the child of the bogus Bagh Bazaar guru and the SUICIDE of that guru.

According to the GBC and Tripurari swami, Srila Prabhupada's books are no longer giving divyam jnanam which destroys sins (diksha). Who is doing that instead? Well, Sridhara Maharaja first of all made a homosexual guru in 1936 (the Bagh Bazaar party), and later after 1978 he supported the 11 GBC as diksha gurus. However, Jayadvaita swami says in a position paper that  -- within the GBC's guru sabha -- started by the 11 (and their shiksha guru Sridhara Maharaja) -- there has been "illicit sex with men, women and children." How can these types of people "absorb sins like Jesus" (aka give diksha)? I just do not get it?] 

Tripurari Swami: Otherwise if you and others do not want to budge from your particualar ritvik ida (again there are many out there), my humble suggestion is that you forget about iskocn and stop fighting with them. 

[PADA: We are not fighting "against" anything, we are fighting "for" the idea that we need to promote the worship of the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada. Why is Tripurari fighting AGAINST us for doing that? He keeps saying our idea of worship of the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada is a ritvik deviation, meanwhile, look at the bogus gurus Sridhara Maharaja supported after 1936 and after 1977. OK, guru and -- "illicit sex with men, women and children" -- according to Jayadvaita swami and many other documents.]   

Tripurari Swami: You risk Vaisnava aparadha. Look at one of the the ritvik founders, Puranjana. He is a Vaisnava aparadhi pure and simple.

[PADA: Well there you have it folks, you wonder why we ritviks are being banned, beaten and assassinated, its because people are saying we are "aparadhis." And according to shastra one can violently attack aparadhis. In fact if is the duty of a devotee to attack the aparadhis. Why is Tripurari still saying we are aparadhis, knowing this has created violence and murders against us? Is he trying to get me assassinated by targetting me personally as an aparadhi, -- knowing that people around ISKCON can be beaten and killed by being branded like this? Notice he mentions my name as an aparadhi, notice that people who are branded this way become targets of violence. Notice, this is not helpful. Notice I am still getting death threats from other sources, and he is pouring gasoline onto this rhetoric.]

TS: I wish you well an do not wish to debate the issue with you.

[PADA: Well then do not comment on these issues. Leave the commenting to us. ys pd]


Srila Prabhupada's Letter to Rupanuga 4/28/74: "In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted. Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya.

He talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected.

So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times a year. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them."


Prabhupada: That was the policy of Madhava Maharaja and Sridhara Maharaja, that "Although Bhaktivedanta Swami is propagating throughout, he is subordinate to us, under our instruction." So all these three...
Tamala Krishna: A real dream world they are living in.
Bhavananda: Here they have even included our temple in their domain. "The headquarters extends for over a mile with beautiful temples and paddy fields." When we put up our wall, then they will not be able to include us. (laughter)



Srila Prabhupada's Letter to Visvakarma, 11/9/75: "So I have now issued orders that all my disciples should avoid all of my godbrothers. They should not have any dealings with them nor even correspondence, nor should they give them any of my books or should they purchase any of their books, neither should you visit any of their temples. Please avoid them."


Satsvarupa: Just by keeping apart, he..., that..., he shows there's some enviousness.
Prabhupada: Sridhara Maharaja is little...

[PADA: Good point, Sridhara maharaja was always "apart" and not associating with Srila Prabhupada, rather he chose to associate with the envious.]

Tamala Krishna: He read it?
Prabhupada: I think so.
Tamala Krishna: Did he make any comment?
Prabhupada: He (Sridhara maharaja) cannot make any comment. These are facts. Two parties there were. One party, to use guru as their instrument for self-aggrandizement, and another party left guru. So both of them are offenders. This Kunja Babu, this Tirtha Maharaja's party, he wanted to enjoy senses through guru. And the Bagh Bazaar party, they left.
Tamala Krishna: Vasudeva.

Prabhupada: So both of them are severe offenders.

Tamala Krishna: What about Sridhara Maharaja?
Prabhupada: Sridhara Maharaja belonged to the Bagh Bazaar party. And I was living aloof. My Guru Maharaja approved. He said, "It is better that he is aloof from them."
Tamala Krishna: He could understand that his disciples were not...


[PADA: Seems like Srila Prabhupada is calling the Sridhara maharaja group the offenders, because Sridhara's false gurus orchestrated devotees beaten and killed after 1936, ok by promoting these false gurus, yet Tripurari has turned this on its head, by calling us the severe offenders? We are the ones being attacked by the Sridhara false guru propaganda, and we are the offenders? ys pd] 

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