Sunday, March 4, 2012

Gaura Govinda maharaja folks 03/04/12 No.2

Dear Puranjana, For truth sake, I have to state that I didn't admit that Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja gave some merciful assistance, for Tamal Krishna Maharaja not to be kicked out of ISKCON on the basis of his having associated with Narayana Maharaja... I just gave a plausible explication to a fact that you stated, which I didn't know of, personally.

[PADA: OK, so Tamal used to lecture that he had to rescue Bhavananda from Andy Warhol's parties. And then in 1978 Tamal made Bhavananda the Vishnupada acharya of ISKCON. And as a result of that, much child molesting was going on because the followers of Bhavananada turned out to be spreading that deviation. And even after 1978, Tamal used to lecture that his favorite guru is Bhavananada. Then Tamal helped re-instate Bhavananda despite he was having sex with taxi drivers. Why is any of this is a good reason to keep Tamal? Tamal is the founder father of the Andy Warhol-pada guru succcession, he has to stay, and we Prabhupada worshippers have to go?]

*** So, to sum up, so that you may clearly understand and not twist my words one more time: I didn't say. You said. I just gave a coherent explanation, when you linked that possible merciful intervention of Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja, as everything else in your contaminated consciousness, "to the worship of pedophile, homosexual and what not, so called gurus" on the basis of Tamal Krishna Maharaja having showed some solidarity to another one of the first eleven rittviks, who was one of his accomplice when they had self proclaimed themselves zonal acaryas...

[PADA: OK, so Tamal himself admits in Topanga in December of 1980 that he deviated by calling the ritviks "gurus." Certainly Tamal supported the worship of people he knew in advance were Andy Warhol's disciples. Gaura Govinda maharaja is linked to all this because he helped re-instate Bhav in 1986, by getting voted in at Bhava's recoronation, and later GGM helped re-instate Tamal in 1993. I am not twisting anything, that is the history.]


Hence, you should appreciate the fact that Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja became guru on the order of Srila Prabhupada, as this is the vaishnava process, which Srila Prabhupada corroborated by instructing: "You become guru, on my order".

[PADA: Where did SP order people to get voted in as guru by a group of manangers, as GGM did? And to get voted in at a pedophile guru recoronation? And to cooperate, tolerate and work with the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children posing as Vishnupada? And why do you think people who do that are gurus?]

Otherwise, how would the mercy flow through the Parampara... Please note that the fact that you may not believe that Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja received the order to become guru all the way down from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, through his revered spiritual master Srila Prabhupada, would not only show your lack of spiritual understanding but would also be completely irrelevant and without importance, in the face of history and vaishnava siddantha...

[PADA: There is no history of any vaishnava guru supporting any of the deviations we listed above, and this is only a partial list, we could write another 500 pages of deviations of these gurus and their alleged parampara.]


ISKCON is functioning through the system established by Srila Prabhupada, i.e. the GBC.

[PADA: OK so now you are saying gurus are subordinated to a group of managers. This is never done in vaishnava history. You have never understood what a guru is, guru gets dictations from God and not from defective beings, nor people engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children and so on.]

*** Even if at some point, the GBC as a Body, made some mistakes a any human group not composed only of pure devotees, still they keep progressing while rectifying some of the past mistakes, and move forward. So, one should not only see the bad in others, but also the good...

[PADA: OK so now you are saying gurus are ordinary men full of mistakes, this is called the mad elephant offense, to consider guru is an ordinary man, gurusuh narah matih narakah sah, this offense makes one a resident of narakah.]


*** Of course, hijacking ISKCON properties is not to be done... If one has different ideas, one should start one's own Movement, collect funds under one's own name, etc.

[PADA: So you support having our free food program shut down so 1.5 million children will be deprived of food. And you support the people who have rats passing stools on the deity because they kicked out all the devotees. Thought you supported that!]

*** Of course, some may claim that they are the real ISKCON, but the real ISKCON works under the authority of the GBC. This is the system Srila Prabhupada has put in place. There are around 40 GBC members and many other ISKCON observers and contributors... In Mayapur, over 300 leaders from all over the world gathered lately to give their input and share ideas and spiritual realizations.

[PADA: And the GBC position papers say that gurus have illicit sex with men, women and children, and you support their ideas. Got it.]

*** So everyone cannot be wrong or in illusion at the same time, all the time... There is always someone who will point others in the right direction... This is why Srila Prabhupada told the GBC members, when he created the GBC: "I do not trust any of you individually, but I trust you collectively...". Plus, Krishna being in the heart of everyone grants everyone their dues...

So, one should remain confident that this ISKCON Movement will keep propagating the Sankirtan Movement in every town and village for the next ten thousand years or so...


Bhavananda's story, which you've been carrying in your mind everyday for the last 35 years will be long forgotten...  Srila Prabhupada gave him so much mercy and even allowed him to massage his lotus like body... Why did he fall pray to his homosexual tendencies, and misbehaved in such a way, after having gone some way in spiritual life? This is indeed a very sad story...!

But, you know devotees meditate on the qualities of others, not on their defects only, as you seem to be doing... So, if you consider, along with the molested children, that they got a financial compensation to settle the matter, then leave it behind now and get rid of that pollution which is clouding your mind... It's high time too! Otherwise, if you keep meditating on Bhavananda, you'll have to join him life after life, as a result of karma mirroring your mental imprint...

[PADA: But you are supporting the people who say gurus have illicit sex with men, women and children, you are in bed with these people yourself. At least I am protesting.]


So, it's time to chant Hare Krishna now and become spiritually enlivened... Here we go... I gave you some more nectar, since you asked for it... But, I really have to go on and allow you to become purified at your own pace...

Hare Krishna
Take good care

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Das dasanudasa
Puskaraksa das

[PADA: Gurus having illicit sex with men women and children is not nectar to me, nor is support of the party that states these deviant conclusions openly in public position papers. Illicit sex with men, women and children is not even considered as good behavior for an animal. My neighbor's cat Mr. Snuffles is not ever engaged in these abominable deviations like illicit sex with men, women and children. He has a better idea of what is nectar and what is not than your party. ys pd]

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