DATE: 5 December 22
RE: JAYADWAITA'S LETTER TO THE MAYAPUR OPEN FORUM
Dandavats to the Prabhus. All glories to Shrila Prabhupada.
Are You a Member of the internet's Mayapur Open Forum?
Well, ISKCON Matrix Senior Editor Jayadwaita Israel left that group within seconds, so it must be good. In the correspondences below, we first present The Vanity Karma guy's unsubscribe letter to Praveen, aka Patita Pavana Nitai Gaur dasa Prabhu.
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM <jswami@jswami.info> wrote:
Dear Praveen,
I'm sure you meant well. But subscribing me to this group without first asking me merely wasted the time it took me to unsubscribe. In the future, before subscribing someone, you might first ask.
Thank you. Hare Krishna
-js (*Jayadwaita Swami)
Here is the reply from Patita pavana Nitai Gaura Dasa:
From: <praveen.punnam@gmail.com>
To: "jswami@jswami.info" <jswami@jswami.info>
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 02:09:22 AM GMT+1
Subject: Re: Mayapur Open Forum
My apologies for the disturbance.
I got a big email list from a devotee yesterday to be added to the Forum and yours was on there too. I unsubscribed your email now.
We added about 1400 emails thus far and only a few complained and many appreciated it and relishing the content on the Forum. So, we will keep adding the emails as we receive them and, if someone complains, we will unsubscribe them. This will be our strategy henceforth.
After all, did not Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura say that forceful preaching isn't bad at all-rather it is good for the receiver?
My apologies again, but in future, please speak only for yourself. Thanks.
Here is the link, if you are curious about the content of the Forum on the already made posts.
https://groups.google.com/g/mayapur-open-forum
This is my first direct interaction with you and the impression I got from it is, "What a nerve he got to speak in such a fashion?"
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:53 PM <jswami@jswami.info> wrote:
Dear Praveen,
I'm sure you meant well. But subscribing me to this group without first asking me merely wasted the time it took me to unsubscribe. In the future, before subscribing someone, you might first ask.
Thank you. Hare Krishna
-js (*Jayadwaita Swami)
Here is the reply from Patita pavana Nitai Gaura Dasa:
From: <praveen.punnam@gmail.com>
To: "jswami@jswami.info" <jswami@jswami.info>
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 02:09:22 AM GMT+1
Subject: Re: Mayapur Open Forum
My apologies for the disturbance.
I got a big email list from a devotee yesterday to be added to the Forum and yours was on there too. I unsubscribed your email now.
We added about 1400 emails thus far and only a few complained and many appreciated it and relishing the content on the Forum. So, we will keep adding the emails as we receive them and, if someone complains, we will unsubscribe them. This will be our strategy henceforth.
After all, did not Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura say that forceful preaching isn't bad at all-rather it is good for the receiver?
My apologies again, but in future, please speak only for yourself. Thanks.
Here is the link, if you are curious about the content of the Forum on the already made posts.
https://groups.google.com/g/mayapur-open-forum
I am sure the time which was "wasted" for unsubscribing yourself from the Forum (a few seconds) is nothing in relation to the valuable time you wasted for thousands of Srila Prabhupada's devotees (including myself) by changing his books?
This is my first direct interaction with you and the impression I got from it is, "What a nerve he got to speak in such a fashion?"
Thank you. Hare Krishna.
Patita-pavana Nitai Gaura Dasa
P.S. Jaya Srila Prabhupada! Jaya Srila Prabhupada! Jaya Srila Prabhupada! Yes I like to chant 'Jaya Srila Prabhupada', everytime, all the time, regardless of time, place and circumstance - and I completely denounce your objections in this regard.
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Patita-pavana Nitai Gaura Dasa
P.S. Jaya Srila Prabhupada! Jaya Srila Prabhupada! Jaya Srila Prabhupada! Yes I like to chant 'Jaya Srila Prabhupada', everytime, all the time, regardless of time, place and circumstance - and I completely denounce your objections in this regard.
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Check out the "What-the-Hell-is-That Guy "here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRTtkGMAg8Q
Prabhus, have a read of THE JOURNEY HOME DEBUNKED, linked here. It is one of the few books in the world that is as terrible as Jayadwaita's Vanity Karma.
Your humble servants,
Your A.I.S.F. Team
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Prabhus, have a read of THE JOURNEY HOME DEBUNKED, linked here. It is one of the few books in the world that is as terrible as Jayadwaita's Vanity Karma.
Your humble servants,
Your A.I.S.F. Team
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PADA: OK we were initially invited to this Mayapur open forum, but was told my style was "too heavy" to participate. Lots of disciples of GBC gurus there, and they would be upset by me and leave the forum. I get it, honest. The problem is, there always seems to be top secret forums and secret discussions going on all the time, and that is not solving the issue very well since 1978. An open discussion forum would invite all persons involved with the issue, so the history of the issue could be reviewed threadbare. That never happens.
Meanwhile the Joe six pack's (karmi) police, media, FBI and courts seek me out to get my version of the history. So the "mundane people" seem to have a much better grip on what is going on here than most "devotees." This has been my karma. The Berkeley police told me, "there is Srila Prabhupada, and then there are those who think they are Srila Prabhupada." OK they had the whole thing figured out in 1980. They also said the Krishna religion is a criminal operation posing as a religion. Well yup.
Now when it comes to child molesting, and especially industrial factory scale molesting, that means there are a lot of victims currently suffering the results NOW. That means they need support and encouragement NOW. That means holding secret meetings is not helping them much, or at all. NOW.
My problem is, I do not believe that the same group of people who have had a number of members "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" -- are gurus, were gurus, or could have been gurus. Nor could members of this group "vote in" another wave of gurus. Nor would gurus have stood by and allowed all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders to have been going on full tilt since 1978, without vigorously speaking up and opposing.
My other problem is, in case no one has noticed, I also have my own particular karma burdens to work through. And one of my karma burdens is -- to be yelling "shark in the water" -- as the people swimming in the ocean shore ignore me -- and then one by one, they disappear under the water. It is my daivi maya destiny to be in that situation. Hee hee! Ooops, look out there! Too late, another one disappeared. Yeepers pilgrims!
Meanwhile, this nicely explains why Kadamba Kanana swami has no clue what is going on. Jayadvaita swami is his mentor, and he is blocking even seeing the discussions. They are all trying to avoid the issue for decades, but it looks like that is starting to back fire on them -- big time.
In any case, we are making progress no matter what. More victims are coming out of the wood work, more people want to stand up to the molester messiah's regime, and it is going to be dismantled gradually, albeit one brick at a time. ys pd
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