Mayapur Open Forum: Buck Stops with Jayapataka swami

Are Pedophiles God's Successors?

[PADA: Really cannot figure out the Mayapur Open Forum. First of all, it is not open. Second of all, they kick out people who have been involved with the issues, some for decades. Recently they blocked a mother who has all sorts of valuable info. Various victims are not even given any welcome at all, nor are they informing most victims of their program. 

How will they be able to identify all the perpetrators and their enablers without making it fully open? We are going to investigate a crime, without any input from the victims or the people investigating these crimes? There is good news, the truth is very clear -- and even they are going to have to deal with it at some point. 

If the forum is trying to keep all their conversations hidden and secret, then many of the people who are victims -- and who would have valuable information -- will not be able to participate, or even know any discussion about them is taking place. If the open forum truly wants to help the situation, they need to make it truly open, especially for the victims, so they will have a voice in the situation. 

A forum that is going to champion for the victims, without allowing any input from the victims, will fall short of their goal of helping. That said, it looks like they are concluding what a lot of us have concluded already. We said Jayapataka is supporting sexual abusers like Jayatirtha in 1979, and it looks like everyone else is figuring that out now. 

The problem of children's sexual and physical abuse has to be solved immediately, it should NOT be taking 45 years to be addressed.

And there is another problem, equally bad, the Holy Dham of Krishna should NOT be polluted with child sexual and physical abuse. That is like placing a statue of Satan in the Vatican and telling everyone to worship Satan instead of Jesus.

All parties who have enabled and facilitated this odious out cropping have to be identified and put on a permanent black list. The Mayapur open forum does not want to do that, they still want to defend some of the biggest agents involved in this criminal empire. Sorry, right now it should be all hands on deck to fix this, or we are implicated in acquiescing if not empowering the problem. 

Continuing to cover it up as the Mayapur forum is doing, simply allows the rotten sewage to continue to pollute the dham. They don't get it fully, this is no longer a secret problem, all sorts of people are watching, including my friends in the "karmi" media.  

Now some followers of Narayan Maharaja are complaining about me attacking their cow protection program. Wait? NM supported a child abuse program, and one of the results is -- some of the ex-kuli victims of his child molester messiah's program here now eat meat, ok cows. 

One of the victims told me he was happy he got a job at Mc Donalds because now he won't be homeless. In short, NM program needs to first of all defend children, because failing to do that, impacts cows later on. We cannot toss children into a wood chipper and then expect that will save cows. It won't, it will make cows suffer as one of the by-products.

ys pd] angel108b@yahoo.com 

JPS tried to answer: "we didn't know of his involvement, it wasn't approved by anyone". (he said a little more but I can't remember it).

Everyone else knew except for JPS. Hmm and they let this slide?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 6:57 PM Patita-pāvana Nitāi Gaura Dāsa <praveen.punnam@gmail.com> wrote:

[PADA: This guy says he is going to curse me. Wow. So the people who wanted to save children from abuse should be cursed to die, and the people who created the molester empire should be covered for -- by keeping the discussions secret, and that will fix things? No it will continue to enable the problem.]  

One question was "why was AVD allowed to be involved in the Girl's School? Who approved it? Or was it simple negligence?" JPS tried to answer: "we didn't know of his involvement, it wasn't approved by anyone". (he said a little more but I can't remember it).

Now it's up to us simple devotees to try to understand this sophisticated answer. In other words, by this answer it's clear there are secrets that cannot be shared with the common people. Maybe in the future, 200 years from now, the ISKCON X-files will be made public. But not right now. Be patient and tolerant.....

During the last Ista-gosthi on the 18th, to a similar question, "Why are child abusers / child rapists such as Bhavananda and Satadhanya allowed in leadership?" - Jayapataka Swami answered by saying they are just advisors at ToVP and that Mayapur management is not involved in this so we should take it up with Ambarish Prabhu (Chairman, ToVP). 

Well this is not entirely true (he has no knowledge of this as well?) that Bhavananda and Satadhanya are just acting as advisors at ToVP. Both of them practically run the show from behind and control the whole ToVP team and they are seen in the front more these days too.

The only way the secrets can be forced to come out during this generation of devotees and not be lost as a stack of X-files (which I doubt that any proof will be left behind for future generation to dig through and the GBC will NEVER speak up on this portion of the truth) is through a revolution to force our good old Bhavs (Bhavananda) speak on these secrets to make them open to all. This can be achieved by causing his expulsion from ToVP and the Hare Krishna Movement. He is after all the biggest child rapist in ISKCON's history anyways? I do not see any other way out.

Our good ole Bhavs is not a bad guy after all? I am sure he has something genuine left in his heart, a calling, a sincere feeling of remorse, to give back to his Guru maharaja and the Society he has subsisted his whole life upon, though he has destroyed so many lives with his insatiable greed and lust over the decades?

In the past when the child abuse Bhavs was involved in was making a lot of noise in the Movement and the GBC wanted to expel him, Bhavs threatened to spit out the secrets. Tamala and others in GBC were forced to comply with his demands to keep him in the Society and feed him some "biscuits" to quiet him down.

If Bhavs is forced to speak the truth, the greatest curse on the ISKCON institution can be removed; the curse being imposed due to the betrayal of the Founder-Acarya; which is why there is failure on all the fronts on the sincere attempts to carry out Srila Prabhupada's instructions for his Movement by his genuine followers. 

All core issues such as book changes, centralization of power by the GBC, Guru appointments, leadership / management issues, deviations in philosophy, watered-down preaching, child abuse and all other forms of abuse, mafiadom, fearmongering / bullying, vigilante methods / gaslighting, threats, extortion, cheating, coverups, bad politics and diplomacy, etc will simply disappear through a spiritual revolution in support of our loyalty to our dear Prabhupada, which will foster the principles of pure devotional service and Vaisnava etiquette take a higher position in all of walks of life in the Society.

What do y'all think?

Thank you! Hare Kṛṣṇa.

All glories to Śrila Prabhupāda!

Hope this meets you in good health and great Kṛṣṇa conscious spirits.

In your service,

Patita-pāvana Nitāi Gaura Dāsa.

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I don't think it's anywhere near the French revolution mentality. The denial by some Iskcon leaders is so extreme that it would take a full-fledged revolution to change the situation. It would have to be a spiritual revolution, where purity and deeply taking shelter of our Lords overpower the dysfunctional leaders and their funny excuses.

- "So why the silence about JPS, the person who is actually responsible?" -

Today 24.12.2022 was a second Istha Gosthi in Mayapur. Questions, written on paper by the devotees, were read out loud.

One question was "why was AVD allowed to be involved in the Girl's School? Who approved it? Or was it simple negligence?".

JPS tried to answer: "we didn't know of his involvement, it wasn't approved by anyone". (he said a little more but I can't remember it).

Now it's up to us simple devotees to try to understand this sophisticated answer. In other words, by this answer it's clear there are secrets that cannot be shared with the common people. Maybe in the future, 200 years from now, the iskcon X-files will be made public. But not right now. Be patient and tolerant.....

On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 6:28:33 PM UTC+5:30 caitanya101 wrote:

Hare Krsna.

There has been a huge hue and cry as a result of the CPO decision on BVPS aka Anirdeshya Vapu das, AVd.

Campaigns are being waged against anyone even remotely connected to AVd. Heaven help you if you are in a photo with him, even if you just happened to walk by when the photo was snapped.

People like Sivarama Swami, Indradyumna Swami, BB Govinda Swami, and others have been excoriated for allegedly supporting and empowering AVd. They are being hounded to denounce AVd, but their denunciations are never enough and only bring forth more vitriol against them.

The whole GBC is lambasted for their allowing this to happen.

The whole scenario reminds me of the French revolution’s mob mentality led by Robespierre but without the guillotine.

But what seems peculiar to me is that I hardly hear a word about the person who had it in his power to do something from day one, but instead allowed it to continue. The person who is now doing everything in his power to avoid any responsibility and pass the buck to others.

Who is that person? Jayapataka Swami.

JPS has been the GBC of Mayapura since its inception, about 50 years now. Not even a blade of grass moves in Mayapur without his sanction. He knows everything that is going on and has gone on in the past.

So why the silence about JPS, the person who is actually responsible?

The buck stops with JPS.

[PADA: Wow. After 46 years of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits, and no small amount of disappeared dissenters, we finally get to the root of it all? JPS and his gang of Mayapur thugs. Better late than never. 

Someone wrote to tell me the horrible things going on in the world like wars and the China virus etc. are the result of making Krishna unhappy, by making His movement into a criminal operation. Could easily be the case. We need to clean this up for our own sake, and for the sake of the planet. ys pd]