ISKCON Mayapur / Suicides from Victimization etc.

[PADA: Oh oh. PADA got into trouble with some folks by advertising that Jayadvaita has rejected a request to join the Mayapur Google conference. We should keep these things secret and private. OK after 46 years of secret and "private meetings" isn't it time to admit, these private meetings are not really fixing things very much, especially for the victims who are STILL suffering in silence (and sometimes ending their lives).

Sorry, I seem to have lost confidence in these private discussions techniques. Maybe we have to admit -- out in the open -- Jayadvaita swami is a leader, and he openly has no interest in discussing the mess at Mayapur. And! Kadamba Kanana is his follower, and if Jayadvaita has no interest, then he is not informing his followers. Let us make that an open issue. Why not?

Therefore, when Kadamba Kanana says the GBC will fix it, when the GBC is not even participating in these discussions for 46 years, maybe we should just expose all this in public. I mean to say, after 46 years of not exposing in public? We personally have been discussing the mess in Mayapur since maybe 1979, so I fail to see how the issue can be fixed, without allowing the people discussing it all along -- are not included? What am I missing?

Anyway here is another fine mess report from Mayapur, which confirms a lot of our suspicions and -- previous reporting. I have heard about various suicides, locking people up, dunking people in the Ganges repeatedly almost drowning them (ok maybe actually drowning some), the property MAFIA selling people lands they have no authority to sell (with GBC leaders approval), devotees ripping off devotees in Mayapur -- with all sorts of scams, people being beaten up, people disappearing, and so on and so forth. If some people think suicide is their best option, then there is some serious repression, oppression, depression and overpowering evil being placed upon them. OK that is the direct opposite of feeling liberated by connecting to Krishna.

We will deal with more of that in another upcoming report. OK folks, this is an emergency situation. No more spinning wheels endless meetings for another 46 years, we need to get the holy dham cleaned up, or be counted as enablers of the mess there. Mayapur is supposed to be the Holy Land of the Krishna religion. If it falls into an evil state, we have collectively allowed that to happen. And the karma for that will be unpleasant.

Of course the good news is, more people are coming forward to help clean it up, like this person. So there is some emerging light at the end of the tunnel, because this person coming out will inspire that person to come out, and then another and another, and it will be like falling dominos one after another. The GBC has no effective tools to combat this emerging flow of information. Basically, they are already toast, and it will get worse for them. And then they will go down in history as evil beings, and that will be recorded for the duration. They will never escape their own history.

ys pd] angel108b@yahoo.com

M.R.:

It is not only a bold move but the only proper move. It has a solid ground rejecting a guru. Between 2000 and 2002 (before that I was in gurukula for many years) I was a Mayapur secretary to JPS, Hari Saur and Dayaram, at that time they were 3 Co-directors for the whole Mayapur. I was attending all local MAC (Mayapur Administrative Council) meetings, all internal meetings with local community and leaders, etc ... things I have seen with my own eyes, things I heard talking "this big gurus " behind closed doors, even on the altars, it is beyond anything you can imagine and in next moment they sit on vyasasana telling you to how to become KC.

I have seen suicides, includes by devotees bound by ropes from the windows in the long building -- committing suicide, cuz they were so afraid of the Mayapur mafia. I have seen dead bodies hanging from the ceiling with marks on wrists and feet from ropes, dead bodies with their legs cut from failed suicide attempts jumping under the train, and it was me who was sent at midnight with armed guards to identify the bodies at some distant train station.

I was the first one to see a devotee in the middle of the night hanging from the ceiling but was not allowed inside the room, so I had to almost fight with guards and by verbal force admitting my "secretary authority" on them to open the door, because Mayapur managament gave instructions, do not let anyone inside the room.

I have seen letters from JPS disciple (who jumped under the train) repeatedly pleading JPS for help month after month, he clearly stated that he wants to commit suicide ... and guess what happened afterwards? Nothing ... swept under the rug. I have seen this devotee just a few hours before greeting each other.

Devotees were coming to me crying that Mayapur management confiscated his family rice storage and they closed him in a room with a toothbrush, they beat devotees with chains, tying them for window bars. There were talks to create a jail in Mayapur for those devotees who break a vow and principles to lock them up, they were about to implement Mayapur police for grhastas, meaning they can enter into your house anytime checking on you if you following principles.

They can do all they want, having sex with anyone they want, steal from anyone they want, living a free Kempinski lifestyle anywhere in the world, travel how much they want, best laptops, best food, vehicles, servants, health care, everything, but you? ... you have to obey or else...

These people have no feelings for other human beings, don't care and they are completely disconnected from reality living in some phantasmagoria.

You have to understand that the "Kempinski lifestyle" provided for them is only possible by their own disciples. Cutting their finances is the first step to make them realize their mortality. Whenever they travel, to any temple they should meet strong opposition, questioning their status and morality.

Quickly they would start hiding and become humble. Any sanyasi visiting a temple should sleep in a brahmacari asrama, eat prasadam with other devotees, doing seva with other brahmacaris and travel around only with a pocket money or emergency expenses.

Disciples leaving their gurus is the first serious step, I don't think many disciples will leave anyone right away, but some of them are already.

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