ISKCON's Children's GULAGS:
In the 80s the KGB and Soviet Union imprisoned, beat up, and tortured devotees.
Response: They were seen as demons.
The devotees rallied to the cause, protested and exposed it.
Response: Those, like Prahlad (ironic that this is his initiated name,) and (again ironically) the gurukula kids, who were the face of the protest, were seen as heroes.
In the 80s, 90s, and next few decades BVP and for a time Dhanurdhara (basically) imprisoned, beat up, tortured, and went one step further, either sexually abused, and raped, or allowed others to sexually abuse and rape the most vulnerable Vaishnavas in our society.
Response: They were seen by most of iskcon’s leadership as advanced devotees. They were officially recognized as being “As good as God.” And allowed to initiate and thrive in Iskcon, and be worshiped opulently with no shortage of funds and support.
Some people stood up against them.
Response: They were seen as being “Aparadhis” and demons. As are the devotees who started to campaign against Lokanatha and have him brought to account.
What exactly did I miss in the Bhakta training program ???
How did I, someone who doesn’t even strictly follow the principles, understand that BVP and Dhanurdhara were and are monsters and criminals ?
How did the leadership not see that? Particularly how did people like Jayapataka, Bhakti Vikas, Sivaram, indradyumna, BB Govinda swamis etc. not recognize this, as they instead played around, ‘joshed’ around, play acted, and hugged the Berga camp / Himmler / Hiranyakashipus of our movement?
For the last decade, since Facebook came online, I would regularly look with incredulity, as photos of these and numerous other leaders hanging out with, laughing with BVP and sometimes Dhanurdhara, appeared in my feed repeatedly. And I would think -- “are they crazy? Why are they doing this? Don’t they know this looks terrible. How can they be associated with these cruel brutal child abusing sociopaths.”
I didn’t do enough to protest in the past, but I was appalled and furious at these individuals when I heard of the terror and torture that they inflicted on our little children. I looked on them with distain and couldn’t understand why the authorities wouldn’t banish them from iskcon forever.
How did / do all these gurus and leaders justify keeping this ‘Berga camp’ of Iskcon in charge of our children, and for decades? How did / do they justify encouraging their disciples to send their children to his Gulag where they were then abused? Sivaram was still telling people to send their children to Mayapur even after so many letters had been sent out on the topic of abuse there.
If they think their half arsed "letters of apologies" are going to pull the wool over our eyes again, and they can get back to living the lifestyles of the rich and famous gurus again, then they’re making yet another massive error of judgement. Their program is only going to be exposed more and more exponentially for the forseable future.
The entire GBC and these friends of BVP / Dhanurdar / Satadhanya / Nitai Chanda / Bhavananda and all the rest ... need to fully account for how they participated in this massive child abusing criminal enterprise. Where they let known criminals and child molesting monsters have free rein to abuse our Krishna children.
If you are going to have people worship you as good as God, and drink the water that washed your feet, you are going to have to explain how you made such a monumental catastrophic error of judgement for decades, despite all the available evidence. And worse, you fellows suppressed evidence and suppressed the people presenting the evidence. Some of the whistleblowers lives were ended by your party. That means ... you knew and you wanted to suppress others from knowing.
You are going to have to explain how ... Bhakta Joe was able to figure out something, that you, the ‘via medium’ of Krishna ... has been blindly misled for decades and decades, although the information was sitting right in front of your faces, and so many people were writing you letters and coming to you warning you of it? And people like Mukunda swami were tossing the complaint letters in the trash ... so he could ignore all the complaints of their Berga camp for children.
If you are really the ‘via medium’ to Krishna what the hell went so badly wrong with your ‘direct connection’ to the supreme Lord?
This is not to say that we individuals were right in abdicating our personal responsibility for our kids, to these people, or to excuse our own personal failures. As some have pointed out, we need to go on with our own spiritual life and form our own communities separate from Iskcon. Taking Full responsibility for our own spiritual life and failures.
But that doesn’t mean that we still won’t hold those who were most responsible for letting these monsters flourish ... to account. When asked by his early disciples, who were shocked at seeing the poverty in India, why it was suffering so much despite being the home of the Dhams and the vedas and so many saints.
Prabhupada always replied that the policeman suffers a much greater reaction than the common citizen when he’s caught committing a crime.
So by that logic, shouldn’t the reaction for someone who’s a so-called Brahmin, a GBC, a Sanyasi, and a Guru be ten times more, not ten times less, (like wear white for a few years and don’t give classes for 3 years and then you’ll be grand and can start re intimating again)?
Or at the very least, shouldn’t the expectation for a higher standard, a standard that at the bare minimum should include the last leg of religion, and full accountability be the very least we expect? Shouldn’t we expect a full independent investigation, full disclosure and finally full accountability including resignations for those who erred so grievously?
In that second last paragraph I meant to write “re-initiating again “. Ohh what a Freudian slip!!!! Perhaps Paramatma speaks through the spell checker.
CK: SIVARAMA s gave his explanation already during a disciple zoom meeting on the 4th Dec why he didn't do anything. He literally said that it's like a painting, until it isn't finished you can't see the full picture. I'm wondering if that means he would keep observing a painting of a naked woman if her head is only missing because he can't assume it's a naked woman?
And anyway they had the reports in 1991 and 2000 so it's rubbish anyway. It just shows that they still think we are all fools.
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PADA: Starting back in 1986 Satsvarupa refers to us as "the poison pens," and other leaders call us "the vicious mob," "the angry mob," and so on. Jayadvaita was recently offended that his name was sent to the Mayapur open forum. Hrdayananda says he is not going to discuss this anymore, etc.
And as soon as they made their "pamho network," I was blocked. Urmila sends me a note "no interest in this topic." And when I was helping the victims in Los Angeles -- the leaders were all standing together on the sidewalk, giving me vulture glares. From my experience? Exposing them is the main and most effective tool.
Some woman just wrote to ask me, how could they all be going to Mayapur for the past 40 years, and not be aware of the molesting if not beating of children problems there? Rather it looks like the main problem there is them, they are the biggest problem there. ys pd
JD: Heard it all before, we are all the appointed acharyas, speaking with Krishna face to face ... shaksat hari tvena acharyas. And what is Krishna telling them? He wants them to promote pedophiles ... as Krishna's successors! Who knew!
ReplyDeleteOh boy, special hells reserved for these people who say pedophiles are going to be worshiped as Krishna's successors. How do they even think they will escape from Yamaraja for doing these horrendous crimes? I know. They don't even believe Yamaraja exists ... and there is problem No. 1, they are atheistic demons.
The asuras will commit any horrific and heinous crimes without any remorse because they are psychopaths. We read about them in the Gita, they will do horrible, unbeneficial things, meant to destroy the world. And what better way to destroy the world than destroy the children who are meant to save it.
Let us f**k up the children so we can f**k up the entire planet and stomp down Lord Chaitanya's movement, and kill it before it grows.
I feel bad for them nonetheless. They just have no clue what happens to people who stomp down on little children, to ruin them before they can grow.
And anyone who stomps down on Krishna's children to ruin them before they can grow, will be stomped down till the cows come home, right ... for many yugas and yugas and yugas. They won't be allowed to grow, they will be stomped down.
These people are nothing short of horrendous ... and to say they are a pit of vipers is giving them way too much credit. Vipers only attack when they need to eat, or defend themselves, they have some sense when attacking is required ... and when it is not. These people attack children ... for no reason. Other than ... they are child hating asuras ... but the vipers won't bite the children unless there is a cause.
More people are saying Auschwitz, Bergen, vipers, Himmel, and that will only get worse for them as time goes on because finally ... people are catching on ... seeing who they really are.
Srila Prabhupada says abortion is the worst crime ... and they aborted the spiritual lives of thousands and thousands of innocent child's souls. I think we are being way too kind saying they are vipers. And when some of the victims say they are a Satanic child sacrifice cult ... who is going to argue with them? Not me!
Gopal Krishna swami: The habit of criticizing devotees is like cancer. One may think that I'm doing it for many years but nothing has happened. Cancer can stay in the body for many years undetected before it finally strikes. This habit of fault-finding and duplicitous behavior keeps increasing with time. Under the influence of maya we think everything is alright but actually the disease is spreading before it finally strikes. - SB 7.15.23 Lecture on 31.01.17
ReplyDeletein Juhu, Mumbai - By H.H.Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaj
[PADA: Well yep, your gurus keep falling down, getting sick, dying prematurely, never mind being made fun of all the time for their bogus behaviors. The cancer is now coming to a head with the GBC cabal. ys pd]