HKC Jaipur Rejects PADA's Peace Proposal? (Child abuse issue update)

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PREVIOUS ARTICLE HERE:

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2016/09/dayalu-nitai-hkc-jaipur-update.html

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Discussion of the gurukula issue with Bhakta Peter prabhu:

https://youtu.be/4BB7P5u1BnM

Jaipur HKC website:

http://www.harekrishnacommunity.org/

http://www.iskcontruth.com/2014/11/original-trust-deed-papers-of-hare.html

PADA: OK so we recently put out a "peace proposal" for Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks, and their apparent counter reply to us is, they are digging in their heels still supporting Prahlad's (Paul Coats UK?) program which says -- PADA is wrong to have helped dismantle the bogus GBC's child molester webs, nests and infrastructure project. Yep, stopping children from being abused is a big no, no in HKC world -- self-apparently.   

Had that infrastructure NOT been dismantled starting around 1999, many parents would NOT have pulled out their hundreds of kids out of these bogus "guru schools," and worse many more kids would have still been pumped in, and sent off to that odious machine -- where more victimization was possible if not probable. So Prahlad and his HKC Jaipur's fan club's BIG PLAN has been, and apparently STILL IS -- to keep these type molester regimes going, and not have us help take them down -- at all!  

Let the molesting party keep partying! That is their plan to fix the world? Has any of these HKC folks ever asked the victims if this was the better plan? Did we forget to mention -- the bogus GBC's plan was to NOT help us take this down either? Ditto heads of a feather?

Of course the only good news is, this TOTALLY confirms everything we have said about this issue up to now? Prahlad das and his HKC Jaipur disciples are apparently quite happy to see many small children being victimized by an odious abuse regime, otherwise why would they vociferously oppose us having this regime dismantled? Or as one victim says, why are they molester program's lovers? Can't really repeat what some other victims said about Prahlad and his HKC disciples on a public forum!

Now some folks in the middle of all this keep sending me photos of HKC kirtans and programs, trying to show me this is a bona fide program. OK but the GBC's programs ALSO had ALL sorts of kirtans going on all along in the 1980s -- when we tried to address the attitude of the GBC's leaders towards the molesting issue then. So kirtans are nice no doubt, but the topic here is -- what is the attitude of these leaders and elders -- of either ISKCON / or HKC -- towards abuse and molesting? In other words, before we get into a process of exploiting people's sentiments with kirtan, we want to know -- what is that program's policy about abuse?   

And it is increasingly clear, the HKC Jaipur's top leadership types have sided with Prahlad's process -- that we should NOT have DISMANTLED these vicious mass molesting nests and rings, and the HKC still are apparently his disciples on this topic. OK so what makes them any different from Tamal's and Kirtanananda's regimes, on this issue? Again, sticking with the issue at hand? Molester programs should not be dismantled? That is their plan? Same plan as the bogus GBC ilk orchestrators of this regime?

And this is Prahlad's mantra that he has trained the HKC in? Why do they vociferously oppose having mass molesting stopped, unless they are on the side of that agenda? Why would they be on the side of the abuse regime and still claim to be reformers?     

KD: Watching HKC from last one decade, never seen Crawford prabhu visiting HKC or HKV. May be once / twice in 10 years. This is far less than the time than what Prahlad prabhu and me have spent with HKC devotees. What to speak of believing his words about HKC.

OK so Prahlad is STILL the self-evidently welcomed shiksha guru of the HKC Jaipur's folks on this molesting issue, which is what we said all along? And on Prahlad's web site it STILL says -- PADA is wrong to have opposed the molesting regime, and Prahlad is STILL infuriated took we took their program down to the mat. OK so he is clearly a molester regime lover. Prahlad direct or de facto says: he wanted the molesting program to continue, because -- we should not have taken it down, its on his own site?  

Peter prabhu keeps asking me, where is the written proof? OK, and as we said many times HERE on this blog -- its ON Prahlad's own SITE. He opposes us dismantling the mass child abuse infrastructure. He openly states that. And HKC people are his disciples ON THIS ISSUE, if not why have they agreed with him in the past and never stated otherwise? And why are they still saying he is with HKC folks many times over the past ten years, if he is not a welcomed guest (and adviser, as he was on this issue in the past)?

Bhakta Peter ... Let me clarify -- the general (HKC Jaipur) congregation is not sophisticated with the internet, but the devotees there running things all have engineering degrees. The dozen or so devotees there that do run things all have engineering degrees, and do have diverse skills. They are much more educated then 99% of devotees in general. How many devotees do you know that have REAL engineering degrees? They are more educated then you Mr. PADA.

Wow! So in order to become one of the best boot licker disciples of the biggest advocate of keeping child molesting regimes running, I would need a college degree in engineering? This is getting more silly by the moment? What good is a PHD in engineering -- if one STILL does not know child molester regimes need to be dismantled? And that people who favor keeping molesting regimes going are deviants and not our welcomed shiksha gurus? 

So this confirms what we said all along, some HKC top tier folks sided with Prahlad's plan of -- KEEPING THE MOLESTING going. And they thus sided with KEEPING THE MARRIAGES of underage girls to much older men (against their will). And they also sided with not having us help save people from suicide. etc!

And you'd need a PHD to be such a child oppressing deviant?

Sorry, there are billions of dogs on this planet and not one of them tried to impede us from saving hundreds of children from victimization, bogus marriages and suicide? The only entities that try to halt us from doing that are in human bodies. And we should name some of those bodies, ok GBC folks and their HKC henchmen disciples like Prahlad das and his HKC clones. Yes, even a dog with no PHD does not try to stop us from saving children, only these folks do. That means dogs have better behavior than these PHD graduates? 

Anyway, again the only good news is --this confirms EVERYTHING WE SAID all along on this topic. Please do not send me anymore HKC kirtan photos, seen that, done that, been there already in the 1980s. The GBC folks also told me the same things, so what -- we have nice kirtan? OK, but a nice kirtan program does not make a license to oppose people who dismantle child abuse programs.

I also pray that the HKC children there in their guru school are not being told that it is a good idea to keep child abuse regimes going without being checked.  Anyway now you all know why this had to go to public police, FBI, media and public court etc., these type people sided with the oppressors, forcing the issue into the public courts.
  
 ys pd    


PS: Correct prabhu, many people leave ISKCON physically but remain there in sentiment and following the same deviant policies and ideals. Right! We cannot simultaneously "reform" the Krishna religion and act exactly like the deviants we are trying to reform from. Goody! ys pd