Sunday, September 15, 2013

Its the same thing -- by Haripada das

Same thing, by Haripada dasa

Today I was reflecting on the difference between practicing Krishna consciousness when Krishna was Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu in His physical form or vapu over 500 years ago, and practicing now, the conclusion is the same, because in reality Sri Gauranga is now here in His vani form in His instruction in the Sri Srisastaka.

It is the Hare Krishna maha - mantra, Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare / Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, there are the same deities, it the same maha - prasada are the same Scriptures Bhagavad gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, Sri Chaitanya the Charitamrita, etc, there are the same Dhamas, Sri Vrindavana, Sri Mayapur, Sri Jagannatha Puri, Sri Ayodhya, etc. 

Then in due time Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu sent HIS SENA PATI, THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF SPIRITUAL FORCES, HIS DIVINE GRACE ABHAYA CHARANARAVINDA Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada is the personification of Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita verses that say -- in every town and village in the world people will sing Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare / Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare and the shastra VERSES SAY THAT DOES GOOD TO OTHERS, Para-upakāra.

Then Srila Prabhupada informs us in his books, in Srimad Bhagavatam 4.28.48, that when the Acharya departs then disorder and thieves and bandits are taking advantage of the situation.
As I understand it Srila Prabhupada is the Acharya for the next 10,000 years through his books and his genuine representatives, who will initiate the devotees in the name of Srila Prabhupada.

And that a person is a disciple of Srila Prabhupada only if one follows the instructions given in the books of Srila Prabhupada, and in this way Srila Prabhupada lives with us. And all those who were initiated by Srila Prabhupada when he was in his physical form or vapu, if they do not follow the instructions given by Srila Prabhupada in his books, they are not disciples of Srila Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada can live with anyone who is sincere (in this connection see The Chaitanya Charitamrita , Madhya lila , 15, 111 ). I am very pleased and happy to see that today many devotees all over the world are deprogramming themselves from the lies and deceit, and they are keen to live the truth and be happy in Krishna consciousness.

And they are serving Srila Prabhupada with faith, love, attachment and gratitude. And I am also very sad to see so many people who are offending Srila Prabhupada in a very serious way. Now there are people full of envy, fear, prejudice and bigotry, and they are paying very severe karmic reactions.




  1. Thanks Haripada, yes it is always the same, we have to worship the pure devotee and chant Hare Krishna. There is not any instruction to worship fallen fools as gurus, thats never done.

  2. If we want to make advancement in spiritual life, we have to follow guru, sadhu and ... sastra.

  3. Thanks, Haripada prabhu, for posting the CC verse. I have just read it.

    When I read this verse and Srila Prabhupada's purport, I finally realized how deep and clear is Vaisnava philosophy, yet many devotees are unnecessarily quarreling over simple issues such as who is to be offered respect, worshiped and served by householders and others. Only one who is situated on the transcendental platform and chanting the holy name offenselessly. That is, a pure devotee of Krsna, Srila Prabhupada, and all others who are situated on the same transcendental platform. There is no mention of conditioned gurus, fallen gurus, practicing gurus, voted gurus, etc.

  4. Thanks, yes you akinca folks said we are demons, that is how you folks got Sulochana killed. You folks demonized him and are thus assistants to his murder, you are correct. "Give a dog a bad name and hang him."

    Sulochana said we cannot worship pedophiles as acharyas, then you akinca folks went to work and said that its demoniac to oppose the worship of pedophiles program, and they said Sulochana is a demon for doing that, so they not only caused his and others murders but also mass molesting by opposing me and Sulochana, yes you are correct, they are assistants to supporting the worship of pedophiles, and murders of the people who opposed.

    They demonize the people who oppose their pedophile guru program, and get people killed as a result, and this also caused mass molesting of children, and they are proud of that accomplishment.

    Yep, they got Sulochana killed so they could keep their pedophile acharya program going, and thousands of children were also victimized as a result of the akinca program to defeat those objecting to their pedophile poojas. And they still think they did a good job doing that.

    And Hari Sauri has all along been a big supporter of the violent pedophile cult in Mayapura, and he still is. I pity these people, orchestrating the murders of people who oppose their pedophile worship is going to take them to the hellish regions, for sure. But you are right, the demonized us to get us killed, so they could save their pedophile guru program, and that is why we went on TV recently to expose that program, they are proud of killing people, and they still are.

    Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad are the same, they demonize us and glorify the supporters of Radhanath, a person apparently connected to Sulochana's murder. That means we are doing the right thing exposing al of you, you folks orchestrate having people murdered when we oppose the worship of pedophiles, and Bhakta is their boot licker and now Prahlad is licking the boots of that program too. He is worshiping the people who oppose child molester acharyas, he is with you. Or he always was their boot licker?

    Sulochana called all of you folks collectively, the boot lickers of the butt buggers, and that is when he was being nice, and that is what he said of all you folks, thats all you ever were to him. And that includes the GBC guru program and its cheer leaders like Hari Sauri, and of course the Bhakta / Radhanath program and their disciples like Prahlad.

    That is all you folks ever were to Sulochana, and that is why all of you are still demonzing him, he exposed all of you for suppoting a pedophile guru program, you would still like to have us killed for doing that as well, which is why all of you demonize us even now. Well what can I say, Sulochana was correct, you not only cause mass molesting and murders, you are proud of that. ys pd

  5. As for the gopi bhava club, that is what the GBC was doing with Narayan Maharaja for years, and they are still doing with their Radha Kunda babaji program. Have you not read the whole Mahanidhi thing? Where have you been dude? ys pd

  6. Hare Krsna PADA Prabhu.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A,C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.

    Dear PADA Prabhu, thank You very much for Your blessings and please forgive me, that due to Your mercy my eyes were opened.
    When I was searching for answers, I found Your website, and we were told that using internet was demonic.

    But it was not demonic, most of the people thought that way, and the truth is, they didn't want us to use internet, because we would see what was going on in ISKCON for all these years.
    I was also one of them, but if you are serious, Lord Krsna will show you the way, where you can find the answers.
    You did the right thing Prabhu, to go on public, internet is a strong medium, and You can reach millions of people.

    And I have find all the answers here on Your website, and I feel still happy.
    Thank You again and again PADA Prabhu and may Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krsna protect all of us.
    All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. All Glories to The founder Acarya of ISKCON A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
    Hare Krsna.
    Please accept my most fallen and Humble obeisances.
    Always Your servant,

  7. Tamal was going to a Christian college, he was actually studying Christianity, and ISKCON was paying several hundred thousand dollars for his Christian education. If the Christian idea is bogus, why are you folks spending years and years, and mass amounts of money, studying it? Anyway, yes, the GBC gurus are like the Roman Church's Pope system, they vote in their gurus like the Pope is voted in, correct. In any case, you failed to answer our point, why is Hari Sauri promoting homosexuals and deviants as acharyas? Even the Christians know that is bogus, they never worship deviants? ys pd

  8. 1976 "Gopi club" is discussed here:

  9. Anyway, ok so I made a mistake, therefore, Hari Sauri is authorized to make the worst possible debauchery into acharyas? My neighbor is a bank robber, so I can steal old people's purses? You folks are not making any sense? One person's faults does not authorize the mass faulty acharyas system Hari Sauri invented?

  10. Same problem we are having with the Sanat / Prahlad / Mukunda group, PADA is making mistakes, so we are going to surrender to Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta das and promote their program of worship of dead homosexual pedophiles in the holy dham.

    Ummm, what?

    No. They want to promote that program of worship dead pedophiles, has nothing to do with us, thats just their excuse. And they are also working with Tamohara, a Gaura Govinda man.

    GGM was voted in at Bhavananda's recoronation. So they want to promote these deviated people, and they are using us an excuse to do that. Sorry we have nothing to do with their deviations, they want to promote these deviants, has nothing to do with us.

    Even if we are wrong, that is not an excuse to promote these deviants. Someone else is wrong, therefore, I can be worse?

    No ... thats not the system. Sorry, they know full well Bhakta promotes Radhanath, and they know that full well. And they know full well that Tamohara promotes GBC gurus like GGM, they are with that group because they want to be.

    They are saying they need to work with these people to counteract PADA, no they do not have to work with these GBC guru compromisers? Who asked them to?

    We are not the cause of that, its their choice. PADA is wrong, so we can be worse? Where is that stated? No, they are with that group because they have sympathy for that group, plain and simple. ys pd


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