PADA Letter to Dhaneshvara dasa (03/31/19)

Dhanesvara das: Puranjan Prabhu, I agree with all of what you say here, but do you think YOU or I are going to change them? 

[PADA: This is not the main issue prabhu? Srila Prabhupada speaks the absolute truth, he does not care if some people accept or not? We are not basing what we say on whether or not the vox populi accepts -- or does not accept? We have helped a number of the innocent people accept that Srila Prabhupada is their acharya, so we should preach to the innocent -- and avoid the envious. Srila Prabhupada told me personally, "I preached in India for 40 years and could not make much progress, but I would not change my preaching to suit the public."]

DD: I’m not betting on that, because as we both know, this battle has been going on for more than 45 years to no avail. 

[PADA: This makes no sense to me personally? We have hundreds, maybe thousands of Prabhupadanugas world wide right now. For example, the GBC has taken Bangalore to court over this issue, and they are not winning in court? Rather the Bangalore court has found the GBC's side to be in contempt. We formerly converted a bunch of Hansadutta's people to worship Srila Prabhupada way back in the 1980s, and most of them still accept him as their acharya now. And many more joined that process subsequently. Are all these people no avail or not important?  

The Bangalore people were formerly followers of the GBC's side, not sure how we can also write off their entire program as "no avail"? Are you saying the GBC's are suing Bangalore, which is allegedly costing the GBC about $20,000,000, for "nothing"? Again that makes no sense either. It means our process is working and they know its an "up and coming" opposition to them.

Sorry, we are winning on many levels and we have more and more folks preaching the right thing. And they will preach to others and so on and so forth, so its a grass roots revolution. This is how Lord Chaitanya's movement has gone on, mostly grass roots underground, for centuries? Did I forget to mention that many folks both in and out of ISKCON also accept that we should promote original books, which is another area where we are making progress?] 

DD: Those people are not going to change and we know it. Neither will their followers. Not in this lifetime anyway.

[PADA: Another false assumption. Many of their followers are reading our stuff. Some of their followers just now said they would sue the GBC if they make women gurus, and they are citing some of the quotes we gave on this issue years ago. Our original Harekrsna org web site is now linked to over 200 sites, and more people link to it regularly. Its expanding.  

We also have had for example some ISKCON people who go out on samkirtana, visiting an internet cafe and writing me questions. And they are living fully inside the belly of the beast. A few former big GBC administrators have also shifted sides and they are communicating with me and so on. Did I forget to mention they have some hair raising stories to tell me? That means the false acharya sabha's process is unravelling more each day.

And thus, a number of their former followers -- if not big secretaries and personal servants -- are writing me now. And more of their former people are also bringing out more and more info about New Vrndavana and etc., they are joining our side -- or at least de facto they are. 

Thus! A number of their followers are changing -- albeit gradually -- but in any case, that is not the point. We are not working to only change their followers? The purpose of life is not to change their few followers, but the GBC side have hardly got any followers anyway at this point? Its almost a mute issue, as Lokanath swami said in 1988 -- their temples are empty ghost towns, and its just got worse since then. 

They have been forced to use imported foreign people into the USA to run their centers in some cases, or get Hindus to take over in other cases, and / or many of their people -- big or small -- are on salary. Recently one of their green card cooks quit ISKCON as soon as he got his green card, and he is cooking at a karmi restaurant. He was only here to get a foot in the USA. Their people are not that loyal to a large extent, they are only there to get a salary or personal benefit. That won't last forever. 

And most of the rank and file devotees are now living independently where they are free to access our stuff, and many are. In addition, we are working on other upcoming expose books and media materials that will come out in future, where even more people will be catching up. Right now we have people translating some of our things into Russian, Spanish, Portuguese and so forth. How can we write off all these efforts as "no avail"?]

DD: So who is going to change to make a true difference then? The innocent. Those who know that there is something very wrong with this world and are very afraid, but don’t know what to do. 

[PADA: Right, that is the first issue, a lot of people do not know what to do now. So we need to tell them to take shelter of the pure devotee, read his unchanged books, and follow his instructions. And that includes how to offer the bhogha and all the rest of these instructions. And we need to help them understand that "pure divyam jnanam which destroys sins" is the definition of diksha, and they need to know who is the pure source of that process. And we are attempting to help folks do that.]

DD: It is up to you and I and others of our kind to preach and convince these innocent people to chant Hare Krishna, and how to properly worship the Lord.

[PADA: Right, emphasis on "proper worship." Most inside ISKCON people are still offering bhogha to conditioned souls, accepting that conditioned souls can be diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus, and so on and so forth. That means they do not know how the actual process works. That is also why I put links to the archana padati etc. that was written when Srila Prabhupada was present, and try to get people to follow these standards of prayers, offerings and etc. That includes how to offer bhogha and so forth.] 

DD: The thing about neophytes is – because they are neophytes – they accept whatever they are told by the persons they have learned to trust. And if you and I tell our followers how it works and how to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada, that will be their understanding and they will do as we instruct them. But, your preaching AGAINST ISKCON and the sycophants of ISKCON will not result in anything, because you are identified as the demon so at best they ignore you, and worse would like to kill you.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada preached all the time to us about how bogus the Gaudiya Matha's gurus are. And he told us, they could do violence to him. However, there are not many options here, either we speak the full truth or look compromised. I am sure your own promoting of the GBC's incompetence issue (i.e. they are not gurus), book changes issue, poison issue etc. is not going to win you any friends in their circle either. You are yourself not avoiding these topics?

And the bad guys will thus see you as the next demon coming down the road for promoting these issues. So what? We have to make a clear and honest presentation and not worry about it being accepted or not.] 

DD: So that’s why I say forget the GBC, their guru club, and all of their followers, and stop wasting energy fighting against them, and instead redirect your energies in a positive way that will bear some actual fruit with new people who will follow you.

That’s what I mean when I say Start the Hare Krishna Movement Again! – without the GBC and their interference and in a non-institutional way that they cannot interfere with. That is the subject of Part 3 of the book.

Das

[PADA: OK but starting the Hare Krishna movement again means to go back to the original standards. That means (to start off) -- how to offer the bhogha. That also means every other detail: Performing initiations on behalf of the acharya to make qualified brahmanas to do the pooja; Getting rid of the bogus guru's worship i.e. worship of conditioned souls; Re-establishing the proper deity poojas, kirtans standards, proper books,  and all the rest. 

And that is what we are preaching, and its being gradually taken up by various people in all sorts of places around the globe. We cannot start anything "new," there has to be following the original design established by the acharya. 

My friend is a pilot of very large commercial aircraft. He says, every big plane comes with a giant operating manual, and he says -- we had better read and re-read the manual and understand it well, or the plane will crash. He says most "pilot error" crashes are because, they did not follow the steps given in the manual -- because they did not read it carefully. He has the big manual on his I-pad and he has it handy whenever he flies because -- if you need the info you'd better make sure its right.

Krishna consciousness is the same identical process, either we follow the guidance of the standard manual, or we crash. I am not sure how we can re-start the movement without paying attention to all of the details given already by the acharya, in his operating manual. So we should follow the process he gave, and not try to re-write the operating manual. It won't work and its not working. Since you are making the same basic cause celebre issues that we are, we should all be working together and form common purpose. ys pd]