Thursday, March 28, 2019

Srila Prabhupada Poisoning Issue (from Dhanesvara Dasa's book)


PADA Update:

Says that continued worship of the acharya is "not our siddhanta." Umm, so we should worship no one? Conditioned souls? Deviants? Notice that he and Rocana, Hanuman Croatia and many others never actually name who the "next guru" is, they just say there has to be a "next guru." But since none is named, what they are really saying is that is it better to worship NO ONE, and NOTHING than worship Srila Prabhupada. All glories to nobody? Yep anyone can be the guru as long as its -- not Prabhupada? That is what the poisoner party said!

Then after Srila Prabhupada said maybe 7,000 times that after he departs there will not be a bogus Gaudiya Matha style guru process, but only a GBC, Dhanesvara says this idea was only mentioned once in one letter? Nope, the GBC idea (acting as agents or ritviks) was mentioned hundreds or even thousands of times in many letters, lectures, conversations etc.

Oddly Dhanesvara is listed as an ISKCON leader? And some ISKCON leaders believe the other leaders poisoned their guru? 


He also opposes the changed books and advertises the KBI books. And he wants people to sign the petition for original books. And he promotes the video of Garuda dasa asking for original books. 


Meanwhile he says what the ritviks are saying:

Dhanesvara Das (February 18 2019) Srila Prabhupada is the Acharya for all ISKCON devotees - women included. It would be wonderful to see all the ladies appreciate and follow these instructions.


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[PADA: Yes, the way the GBC mis-treated many of the devotees who were Srila Prabhupada's "spiritual children" was an indication, they did not like the father, so they did not like his children. Even some of our friends like Krishna Kanta, Kamsahanta, Adhridharana, and many others told me not to introduce the poison issue because "it will destroy ISKCON." 

OK maybe, but if people are worshiping the poisoners of pure devotees, its already destroyed. Anyway, we went ahead and released the tape and transcripts because we feel, people need to know what happened to Srila Prabhupada, because then that would explain what happened to his ISKCON and its citizens subsequently. ys pd]


HOW FAR WOULD THEY GO? 

An Excerpt from Chapter 8 Divine or Demoniac? Spiritual Movements and the Enemies Within, by Dhanesvara Das

Srila Prabhupada instructed his disciples to sing these words every morning. We do so in Sanskrit - saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair– and in many temples the devotees also recite the translation. The principles expressed in the verses of Sri Sri Guruvastaka quickly become well-known to every devotee, and are accepted as the key to progress in spiritual life. 

That being the case, how could any devotee even think of attempting to kill the Acharya, what to  speak of carrying it out? The thought is absurd. For this reason many devotees are of the opinion that the mere thought Srila
Prabhupada was poisoned is ludicrous, and the proponents of such ideas can only be great offenders. 

Absurd as the notion of poisoning appears, a great deal of evidence, initially surfacing in 1997, suggests that it did happen, sufficient to convince any person of discrimination who bothers to seriously investigate. When the historical evidence is combined with the reality that the Kamsas and Putanas of this world do not hesitate to carry out such acts, the possibility becomes even more
real. When that is combined with an acceptance that the contest between the asuras and devas has continued throughout history, and continues to this very day, the possibility becomes even more real. 

Combining that with Srila Prabhupada’s statements that demonic rakshasas currently control this world, it becomes easier yet to accept that this could have happened. And if you add to that, the fact that Srila Prabhupada said that they might try to kill him, and the fact that Srila Prabhupada himself said that he was being poisoned, we must finally come face-to-face with a reality too terrible to contemplate.

Acknowledging this truth forces us to deal with the tragedy and horror that immediately spring to mind, as we quickly begin to connect the dots of ISKCON’s sad history. Well, if that happened, then that explains . . . and then this makes sense. . . and that is why. . . etc., etc.

Doubts automatically arise that cannot be ignored. . . Krishna would not allow His pure devotee to be poisoned! He promises that His devotee is never vanquished! Surely Srila Prabhupada would have known what was going on and stopped it. All he would have to do was tell Brahmananda. How could those who were closest to Srila Prabhupada do such a thing? 

Everyone could see the devotion that was displayed by those in his inner circle, etc., etc., etc.The doubts which spring to mind can be resolved by evidence
and facts. The actual evidence is there – if we can summon the courage to look at it. Can we accept the evidence of background whispers? Srila Prabhupada’s own statements that he was poisoned? Can we accept the evidence of Srila Prabhupada’s hair analysis showing poison had been in his body for an extensive period of time, matching his physical symptoms and his debilitating health? 

Will we read about, and recognize, the extensive efforts made to try to control Srila Prabhupada and prevent him from making Govardhana parikrama, and the bizarre behavior of those present when Srila Prabhupada said he was poisoned? Have we bothered ourselves to read the evidence presented in his room
conversations? 

Or do we rely on sentiment, ignoring the evidence in the belief that such a horrific thing could never occur, and something we should not even contemplate? Cognitive dissonance, refusal to accept a truth that overturns ones firmly held beliefs, is a well-known feature of human psychology. Many simply cannot accept the idea that SrilPrabhupada was poisoned, regardless of the great amount of evidence to the contrary. The very thought is too threatening to our tightly held concepts of spirituality. 

However, those who accept the evidence as real are also forced to accept that members of Srila Prabhupada’s inner circle wereinfiltrators – agents of Kali, there to put an end to Srila Prabhupada and his spiritual movement, or “useful saints” who cannot see, or cannot begin to suspect, what is taking place. Acceptance of this fact allows us to then make much more sense of ISKCON's
dismal history both before and after Srila Prabhupada’s departure.

All of the dots then begin to connect and a clear picture emerges. If Srila Prabhupada had been poisoned all of this history begins to make sense in a way it never had before. And Krishna’s reveal-ing it after years of crushing disappointments by the very persons who were supposed to be leading and protecting the society, finally allows us to recognize the unmistakable truth that our “leaders” are in fact agents of Kali. 

As he desired, Srila Prabhupada died on the battlefield, and by doing so he has informed us that the enemy is within our own camp.

All of this is somewhat easier to comprehend for those who joined Srila Prabhupada’s movement in the 60s, 70s and early 80s, especially in Australia, Western Europe and the United States, because they have personally witnessed how the once wonderful and powerful ISKCON was reduced to a mere shadow of its former glory. 

Those who had experienced actual transcendence and the spiritual energy flowing through them, also experienced how the mercy has gradually dwindled to nothing. Those who came to Krishna Consciousness in the 90s and beyond, especially in India and the former Soviet Union, who do not have the benefit of experience of the early history, are more inclined to accept the GBC cover story because it preserves the integrity of the ISKCON that they know. 

One of the greatest problems for any devotee to deal with is to admit the ISKCON they thought portrayed what they read in Srila Prabhupada’s books, the one they have so completely given their heart to, does not, in fact, serve Srila Prabhupada’s instructions.

There is an ongoing battle between the forces of light and darkness in the world today. It is not merely some theoretical contest taking place only in the pages of the Bhagavatam, but is eternally played out in the material realm we live in. It is very much. 


HOW FAR WOULD THEY GO? 

A part of our reality, right here and now, and although it may take place in ways that are not immediately apparent, it is always going on. An important part of strategy in war is to take out the leader of the opposing army, leaving the foot soldiers bewildered and confused. This was done with Jesus and James, and however painful it is to admit, it was also done with Srila Prabhupada. 

Those who were closest to him maliciously poisoned him over an extended
period of time with the intention of killing him, endeavoring to make it look like the ravages of old age and inexplicable disease. I want to state unequivocally that I do not accept that Srila Prabhupada’s was killed by poison. Life and death are controlled by Krishna, especially in the case of His pure devotee. Reading
Srila Prabhupada’s health history it is observed that at times Srila Prabhupada appeared quite ill and would then have an immediate and almost miraculous turn-around and his health would improve. 

Perhaps by Krishna’s grace the effects of poison were removed, as was the case with Prahlad Maharaja. Nonetheless, the poisoners were convinced they could remove him with their poisons, and acted in that way. Srila Prabhupada said that Krishna left it up to him whether he would stay in this world or not. It is clear to me that Srila Prabhupada decided to leave when, after unequivocally stating that he was being poisoned on November 10, 1977, everything continued as before without any change. Under the circumstances, if Krishna has given him the choice, why would he stay? 

The poisoning of Srila Prabhupada is not some work of fiction, it is not some fairy tale cooked up by a handful of malcontents, or the creation of “ritvik envy.” Thousands of devotees accept as fact that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, most of them leaving the institution controlled by a GBC who, rather than earnestly seeking the truth to what can only be the most important event in ISKCON’s history, rubber stamped a cover-up crafted by none other than a disciple of the main suspect. 

The GBC Decree 

Recently the smoking gun was produced: analysis of hair samples delivered by the GBC to forensic labs showing an astounding level of cadmium – 225 times the amount normally found in hair! Cadmium is a heavy metal, and an extremely toxic substance.  Moreover, the hair tests confirm that poison had been administered over an extended period of time – since Srila Prabhupada
began suffering unexplained health problems.

Shortly after Nityananda Dasa released irrefutable, conclusive, forensic analysis with the cadmium findings, the GBC issued an intimidating letter totally ignoring the evidence, warning that merely looking at it would damage one’s spiritual life. Note the unnerving adjectives intended to frighten the reader: The new accusations raise pseudo-scientific arguments that actual science rejects. 

Therefore, to protect innocent devotees from devastating offenses, the GBC is preparing a detailed response to the latest accusations, which are themselves the actual poison in this case. The GBC requests ISKCON devotees to focus their attention on serving Prabhupada's mission and to avoid hearing these monstrous accusations, until the GBC presents a response to the latest poisonous theories. (emphasis added).

As of this date, twenty-one months later, they have yet to deliver their response. If the results are so pseudo-scientific why does it take so long to write a rebuttal? 

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This letter was signed by every GBC member, clearly demonstrating that at least 9 of them (about one-fourth of the GBC body) to be devoid of integrity. I write that because I asked them face-to-face whether they did anything at all to investigate the allegations: Badrinarayana Swami, BB Govinda Swami, Bhakti-
vaibhava Swami, Bhakti Chaitanya Swami, Devamrita Swami, Hridaya Chaitanya Prabhu, Niranjana Swami, Bhakti Charu Swami and Shivaram Swami – NOT ONE OF THEM DID ANYTHING TO INVESTIGATE THESE ALLEGATIONS!

There could not be a greater dereliction of duty, since nothing could more significant than the poisoning of their spiritual master! Yet they wouldn’t so much as lift a finger to investigate the matter on the simple presumption that such a thing is impossible. Such irresponsibility is beyond comprehension.
This reflects the behavior of the GBC quoted earlier from Ramesvara Dasa: “No one back then did their job or acted with full responsibility for what they were endorsing.”

Thus what we have is a decree from the GBC:

HEAR YE! HEAR YE!
WE DECLARE THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA WAS NEVER POISONED!

Nonsense.

As if, like the Roman Popes, they can just decree the “truth” and everyone is to accept it without question. “Don’t look at these ‘monstrous accusations’ or you will lose your soul!” Mere Dogma. A bogeyman meant to scare the neophytes. Actually, if any devotee bothers to investigate, to even the slightest degree, they cannot help but come to the conclusion that Srila Prabhupada was
indeed poisoned, the primary evidence being that he said so himself! 

The fact that the GBC is covering it up rather than making a real investigation, indicates that they themselves are guilty, or are protecting the guilty! Why do the GBC ignore the direct evidence as well as the great amount of anecdotal evidence? Because with one notable exception, the perpetrators of this horrendous crime are still at the helm of the institution, and they don’t want anybody to realize the fact. So don’t ask any questions! It is forbidden!

Truthful Investigations

Doing what the entire GBC body could not do, Nityananda Dasa made a very thorough investigation, as did the members of the November 14th Commission,and the evidence was collected and presented in several books: “Someone has Poisoned Me,” 

“Judge for Yourself,” and “Kill Guru, Become Guru.” 

As distasteful as it is, any person that wants to know the truth of the matter for themselves must read these books. Don’t throw away your dis-crimination based on the ’BC's red herring of ritvikism, and threats of maha-aparadha. Those are merely their efforts to discredit the truth.

Unfortunately, due to cognitive dissonance, or perhaps simply blindly following their mis-leaders, many ISKCON devotees willfully ignore the facts. For those with such weakness of heart we remind them of the consequences of blind following: 

Leaders who have fallen into ignorance and who mislead people by directing them to the path of destruction are, in effect, boarding a stone boat, and so too are those who blindly follow them. A stone boat would be unaband would sink in the water with its passengers. Similarly, those who mislead people go to hell, and their followers go with them. SB 6.7.14

While all of the GBC may not be guilty, their complicity supports the Kali-chelas misdirecting the society. Sadly, naïve GBC members have been manipulated to sign their names to a document based on nothing more than sentiment. They think they are defending ISKCON, but in fact are defending the Kali-chelas de-
stroying the ISKCON they are pledged to protect! Wake Up!

In this chapter I put forward a sampling of the evidence demonstrating that Srila Prabhupada’s closest men poisoned him with the intention to kill him. There is evidence that they had help from the Kamsas who will do anything to maintain their control of this world. Remember Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta’s alarm:
King Kamsa is ever on the lookout for the appearance of the Truth for the purpose of suppressing Him before He has time to develop. 

It is necessary to put down the transcendental heresy the instant it appears.
Srila Prabhupada Himself is the Strongest Proof Srila Prabhupada’s own statements provide the most significant evidence of this fact. Will the sincere followers who are willing to accept anything Srila Prabhupada said or wrote as the Absolute Truth, also accept the three times he said he was poisoned?
I will not duplicate the entire conversation here. It can be read in the books cited that thoroughly investigate the issue. 

The transcripts of room conversations are available from the Bhaktivedanta Archives. Get it while it is available for it will likely disappear sometime in the future. However, a sampling provides. 

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irrefutable evidence that Srila Prabhupada, and others in his presence, absolutely understood that he was being maliciously poisoned. The big question is why was it business as usual after that?

Srila Prabhupada had asked the Kaviraj to invite a mutual acquaintance, Balarama Misra, to visit him. During his visit on November 9th Srila Prabhupada put aside all preliminary niceties that usually accompany seeing an old friend after a long time. Immediately he disclosed this dark information to an outsider – not his inner circle – indicating that perhaps he was not sure who he could trust: 

SP: (Bengali) Someone says that I have been poisoned… it’s possible.
Balarama Misra: Hmm?
Kaviraja: (Hindi) What are you saying?
SP: (Hindi) Someone says that, somebody has given me poison.
Kaviraja: Kisko? / To whom?
SP: Mujhko. / To me.
Kaviraja: (Hindi) This thing Maharaja. You know how you said today that someone said somebody gave you poison? Did you get some indication or feeling about this, or what?
SP: (Hindi) No. Someone said that, when given poison, this happens... Maybe it's written in some book.
Kaviraja: (Hindi) That happens from some foods. Raw mercury makes it happen. And there are other things with which it can happen. I mean, who would do that to you? 
My understanding is that anyone who thinks about doing this to a saint is a rakshasa.
Kaviraja: (Hindi)
SP: (Hindi) All these friends. 

We have heard that the gossip in Vrindavana at that time was Srila Prabhupada’s being poisoned,

November 10th:
Bhavananda: Prabhupada was complaining of mental distress this morning
Bhakti-caru: Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Hm?
Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) ...mental distress?
Prabhupada: Hm, hm.
Kaviraja: (Hindi)
Prabhupada: (Hindi -- mentions word "poison")
Kaviraja: (Hindi)
Devotee: Someone gave him poison here.
Kaviraja: (Hindi long explanation)
Tamala Krishna: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him.
Adri-dharana: Yes.
Tamala Krishna: That was the mental distress?
Adri-dharana: Yes.
Kaviraja: (Hindi)
Tamala Krishna: What did Kaviraja just say?
Bhakti-caru: He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that, there must be some truth behind it.

My Bengali-speaking friends listening to this conversation say that Srila
Prabhupada is unmistakably saying that he is being poisoned.
SP: (Hindi) All these friends . Yes Sab Friends.

1 comment:

  1. Jaya Dhanesvara prabhu. Well that is where we tend to differ. The guru issue has been overtaken by the rakshasas. And that is why we have to re-establish the correct guru tattva, because unless a person takes shelter of a pure devotee as his acharya, he cannot make any tangible progress. As for chanting the holy name, the chanting is also an offering to the Supreme Lord, just like any other offering, such as bhogha and all the rest of it. And it has to be offered up via the pure succession. Otherwise all sorts of people are chanting Hare Krishna, and then they send me death threats, and they give me death stares when they see me etc. That means their chanting is like feeding milk to a serpent, it empowers them to ban, beat, molest, sue and kill us.

    Even the Los Angeles police told me, don't you know all these people here on Watseka WANT TO KILL YOU. So their chanting is empowering them to ban us, beat us, and kill the Vaishnavas, never mind covering up molesting, burying deviants in samadhis, having me chased with baseball bats etc. That is why Srila Prabhupada says people can chant for thousands of lifetimes, but they may continue to have a steel framed heart. So having people chant Hare Krishna simply to empower them to attack us is not a good process. The chanting has to be done in the proper track, or it can become a Satanic effect, as we have seen in spades.

    Now this is where offering the bhogha comes to bear on all this. Offering bhogha to deviants, sexual predators and pedophiles will infuse the bhogha with the qualities of whom it is being offered to. That is why people also make blood offerings to Satan and so on. So offering bhogha to deviants will infuse the followers with the same deviant qualities, as we see again in spades. So unless people quit making offerings to Satan, it does not matter if they are chanting or whatever it is, their consciousness will be permanently affected in a malefic manner. Of course eating malefic Satan bhogha is also why so many devotees in ISKCON are falling down, getting fatal illness, like cancer, strokes, and of course --- madness. And that is also why they see nothing wrong with burying pedophiles in the dham, their brains have become infected with their bogus Satanic bhogha eating process.

    So that is why we have to help people understand the first principle, unless one accepts the pure devotee as his acharya, and he offers himself as a disciple, and offers his chanting, his bhogha, his life, his money, his consciousness -- to the pure devotee -- his offerings might instead be going to Satan. Yes, as a matter of fact offering disciples and bhogha etc. to the Satanic will affect the entire situation, and it is. So we cannot clean up a dirty place, by adding more dirt? We need to add soap and water, and that process is called acharya upasanam, worship of the proper acharya. ys pd

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