Monday, March 11, 2019

Hanuman Croatia Wants "Anyone" To Be Guru





[PADA: Srila Prabhupada says in the 1936 Gaudiya Matha they initially produced a small number so-called appointed gurus, who started to fall down. And the result of this was, it opened the "flood gates" for many, many more people to take the post of guru. And as such, Srila Prabhupada says -- "another man comes, another man comes, another man comes -- to be guru." Now Hanuman says that is a great idea, that is the way we should fix ISKCON, by making many, many others into gurus. 



Opening the Pandora's box of self appointed gurus

However, the idea that another man comes, another man comes, and another man comes -- to be guru, isn't that already going on with the GBC's process? As Hrdayananda said in 1986, the mad acharya disease has become an epidemic. So instead of having a few neophytes posing as acharyas, we should have many, or maybe countless more neophytes posing as diksha gurus? 

Under the Hanuman plan, we will have no GBC voting process to certify these future gurus, there will simply be a process where "anyone" can simply state that he is the current parampara diksha guru and then -- that makes him a guru. There will be no system of checks and balances, there will instead be a "free for all" of self-appointing of gurus, by whomever wants to take the post of guru. Exactly where does Srila Prabhupada promote such a system?

Why did Srila Prabhupada establish the idea of a GBC management board, if "anyone who wants to" can claim to be the next acharya? That sound like total anarchy, the self-same "self-appointed guru" problem Srila Prabhupada warns us about, this will become an anarchy ridden divisive "free for all." Of course, that is already happening to some extent, we ALREADY have maverick people like Krishna Balarama swami, Gaurahari das Avadhoot, Tripurari swami and similar others saying they are gurus -- independent of the GBC's process. Are we going to benefit by having more of the same of that process?

Yet it seems most of these independent guru folks really cannot build up much more than a smaller scale little personality cult type program, and not really a wide scale process. This is what happened in the Gaudiya Matha too, a guru, but with only a few disciples. So then we will have all these independent maverick self appointed gurus, but how can there be a united Krishna religion? Rocana is saying the same basic thing, let those who want to declare they are gurus go ahead and do so. Self appointed gurus ki jaya!  

Next problem, how will these self appointed gurus be contained if and when they start deviating, since we already cannot barely contain the existing GBC's gurus who are deviating. And is this not what happened after 1936 in the Gaudiya Matha too, there was no unified process of allocating gurus, there was simply a program where "whoever" could get away with being a guru was able to do so. Then there is no regulated process for organizing the society when "anyone who wants to" can claim to be the next guru.

This does not sound like having a unified religion, worshiping one central acharya under a GBC governing body, which is what Srila Prabhupada orders. Rather Hanuman says this is making Srila Prabhupada into another Jesus. OK maybe, but if we look at the Christian religion, we see that they can make huge programs because everyone is on the same page worshiping the same acharya. And then all the temple's standards, kirtanas, books, programs etc. are unified. 

Worshiping a bunch of independent maverick gurus will not form a conjoined religion at any point, it will cause more and more schism, fractures, divisions, and even many different "bona fide" books, different contents of tape ministries, different deity standards, different kirtanas and so on and so forth. It will fracture the movement more and more, than it already is. This is already going on with Bhakti Vikas swami attacking Radhanath's books and so on.

Then again Hanuman seems to have no idea that us neophytes cannot absorb sins as diksha gurus. And if we try to do that artificially, we will be overwhelmed with the burden of these sins and we will get sick, fall down, and die -- as is happening in that process already left, right and center. He says Srila Prabhupada cannot be our Jesus, instead we will have dozens of ersatz Jesus running around. 

Except these "self appointed" Jesus will not have the capacity to give pure divyam jnanam which destroys sins (diksha), nor can they absolve the sins of others because they do not have that capacity. And worse, we will simply see more falling down, getting sick and dying from taking sins without authority. Never mind all the scandals this process creates.

In any case, Hanuman is right -- some of the time. And he is correct to say the GBC guru process is bogus, and it is. He simply does not have a good alternate process. And to say that "anyone" can be guru is also mayavada. That means Hanuman does not have any actual named guru to promote. 

That means he has no guru to recommend at all, its simply all bluff and word jugglery. Hanuman thinks we should continue to offer bhogha and disciples to "someone else," but he does not even know if this someone else exists? We need to offer bhogha and the new disciples to -- Srila Nobody-pada? That is not the way to make an organized religion. ys pd 

1 comment:

  1. Thanks prabhu, Yes, his idea of having dozens of independent self-appointed maverick gurus, with no governance body whatever, is going to create more schism and chaos. He is worse than the GBC, correct. At least they make pretend a GBC is needed.

    He is also blocking people from accepting Srila Prabhupada as their guru and he says this will make Prabhupada "another Jesus." What is his point? We should not worship the acharya the same as worship is done by the Christians? Who should be worshiped instead then? His "anyone else" gurus? Or nobody?

    He also has no idea who the bhogha and disciples should be offered to, he just says that "someone" -- an anonymous non-specified person -- should be the guru, that means, there is no guru, he cannot identify any.

    To tell more neophyte people that "anyone" of them should go ahead and be diksha gurus and absorb sins will cause them to fall down, get sick and die. "Anyone" cannot absorb sins like Jesus, this is going to create more of the same problems we have already. In other words, his solution is like the GBC's, do not worship Srila Prabhupada as the diksha guru, lets make all sorts of "anyone and everyone" the diksha guru, this is the same foundation as the GBC.

    Except its worse, because now we have not even a GBC, just independent mavericks posing as acharyas. He never explains how his process was given by Srila Prabhupada either, because its not. Yes, opening the self appointed acharya's flood gates further than the GBC has done, is worse than the GBC. Correct. ys pd

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