Co-founder of the debauchee messiah's project.
I am well aware of the controversy surrounding the editing of Srila Prabhupada's writings in the years since his departure and it's very unfortunate and disturbing to me that included in some of these often heated exchanges between those for and those against I've seen very mean-spirited and hateful words meant to disparage and denigrate the good name and character of my God brother, Jayadvaita Swami.
[PADA: But its ok for Jayadvaita to be one of the biggest cheer leaders of the "enforced cult ritualistic worship of drunkards / drug addicts / sexual predators / criminals / and sometimes pedophiles -- as acharyas -- process"? A process, which bans, beats, molests, sues and assassinates the Lord's Vaishnavas? A process that had to be sued for $400,000,000 for mass molesting, and which has bankrupted ISKCON both financially and morally? How is support of all this process "good character"? And Jayadvaita is one of the vociferous enforcers of said process?]
Jayadvaita was one of the first devotees ever to explain the philosophy of Krishna consciousness to me.
Jayadvaita was one of the first devotees ever to explain the philosophy of Krishna consciousness to me.
[PADA: Jayadvaita says that in ISKCON their guru parampara contains "illicit sex with men, women and children." Why is that your guy's idea of Krishna consciousness at present?]
When I first began visiting the 61 Second Avenue center in New York City during the summer of 1969 he was always right there, greeting the guests with his big friendly smile. He knew my friend Jimmy Feldman who had joined before me but who left New York for New Vrindaban after his initiation. Jimmy told the devotees in New York that his friend Steven (me) would soon be showing up. The first thing Jayadvaita ever said to me was, "So you're the Steven who Yamunacarya kept telling us about."
A few months after I moved into the ashram my sister came to the temple. Unbeknownst to me she left San Francisco where she was living at the time and returned to New York and the first thing she did when she got back was to come into the City to visit me at the temple for the first time since I joined. As I was getting ready for arotik one evening Jayadvaita came over to me and said, "You'll never guess who I've been talking to in the temple room for the past hour. Your sister Michelle is here." A week later she joined ISKCON but since there was no facility for women at the Second Avenue ashram we sent her to Boston.
Jayadvaita and I were brahmacarys together in New York and we served together in Boston where we both relocated to work with ISKCON Press. Our friendship goes back a long way and I will be forever grateful for all the loving guidance he gave both my sister Manmohini and me especially during those early years.
Jayadvaita Swami is without a doubt in my mind one of the most intelligent people to have ever joined Srila Prabhupada's mission. His devotion and dedication to Srila Prabhupada is without question and his strict adherence to the principles of both the brahmacary and sannyas ashrams has been and continues to be impeccable.
[PADA: Umm, promoting the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as Krishna's gurus, successors and acharyas is "strictly following" whom? Beelzebub?]
I may also not agree with the principle of changing Srila Prabhupada's books and perhaps it would have been better if only the obvious typos and glaring errors that slipped through the cracks were emended; however, I cannot and will not tolerate vicious attacks on my God brother's character and I won't allow it on my watch.
Thank you very much for allowing me this opportunity praise one of my dear God brothers. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga. Hare Krishna.
A few months after I moved into the ashram my sister came to the temple. Unbeknownst to me she left San Francisco where she was living at the time and returned to New York and the first thing she did when she got back was to come into the City to visit me at the temple for the first time since I joined. As I was getting ready for arotik one evening Jayadvaita came over to me and said, "You'll never guess who I've been talking to in the temple room for the past hour. Your sister Michelle is here." A week later she joined ISKCON but since there was no facility for women at the Second Avenue ashram we sent her to Boston.
Jayadvaita and I were brahmacarys together in New York and we served together in Boston where we both relocated to work with ISKCON Press. Our friendship goes back a long way and I will be forever grateful for all the loving guidance he gave both my sister Manmohini and me especially during those early years.
Jayadvaita Swami is without a doubt in my mind one of the most intelligent people to have ever joined Srila Prabhupada's mission. His devotion and dedication to Srila Prabhupada is without question and his strict adherence to the principles of both the brahmacary and sannyas ashrams has been and continues to be impeccable.
[PADA: Umm, promoting the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as Krishna's gurus, successors and acharyas is "strictly following" whom? Beelzebub?]
I may also not agree with the principle of changing Srila Prabhupada's books and perhaps it would have been better if only the obvious typos and glaring errors that slipped through the cracks were emended; however, I cannot and will not tolerate vicious attacks on my God brother's character and I won't allow it on my watch.
Thank you very much for allowing me this opportunity praise one of my dear God brothers. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga. Hare Krishna.
Swarup Hebel
[PADA: Well now we all know why us folks have had so much trouble opposing the GBC's molester messiahs program, they had all kinds of support from these Swarup type people. And the molester messiah's project still has many of these people acting as their cheer leaders / assistants / supporters. That is why the shastra says -- false gurus go to the darkest regions of the universe, and so do their supporters.
At least Jayadvaita is honest, he openly asks -- why in the hell are people chanting "Jaya Prabhupada" at the guru pooja? Oh boo hoo, they are not chanting the names of the people in my concocted illicit sex with men, women and children guru sampradaya! Thanks Swarup, now we know where you stand, and have been standing all along, you are with them. That is why we did the right thing in exposing you people. ys pd]
Thanks KD prabhu. Yes the consensus among many is that Jayadvaita swami is a person heading for the lowest regions. Sorry I cannot re-post some of your comments due to your use of foul language, but I get your drift and so do many others. I am just trying to keep the blog a little bit tidy, hee hee.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, yes correct, all of these people are connected. Jayadvaita is like one of the main guys at the front of the debauchee acharya's parade. And then Swarup Hebel is marching along not too far behind, leading other bewildered people behind him. Someone just told me that they will all go to the same planet together, where sexual predators, criminals and deviants are worshiped as messiahs, and they will find their actual home there.
Then other GBC defenders like Bhakta das are marching along with Swarup Hebel. Then Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks start telling me to listen to audio tapes of Bhakta das, yes all these guys are in the same parade. Agreed. A follower of Jayapataka was just now complaining that the followers are so degraded, that is what is making Jayapataka so sick, his followers are often deviating and not even following the process and he is taking their karma. So it seems like more people are actually realizing, this whole thing is not working for all sorts of reasons, but the main reason is, none of these GBC people are gurus. And now after we said JPS is sick from taking karma for years, others among his own clan are finally catching up and saying the same thing. Time is clearly on our side. ys pd
Swarup Hebel just wrote to ask me, (Q) When will you grow up?
ReplyDelete(A) OK "grown up" apparently means, we defend the promoters of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project? Sorry, their "enforced cult ritualistic worship of sexual predators, drunkards, deviants, porno swamis, criminals and debauchees --- whose worship is being enforced as --- God's successor gurus" is not part of human existence. Anyone who "enforces" the worship of deviants as God's successors by a policy of contrived excommunicating, banning, beating, suing and assassinating etc. is among the "most dangerous elements in human society" according to shastra.
We are already grown up, we promote the worship of the pure devotee and not his false successors. And moreover, we do not enforce the worship of deviants with contrived excommunications, beatings, death threats, bogus lawsuits and murders of the Lord's Vaishnavas.
The molester messiah's program has its cheer leaders and enforcers -- ok fine, albeit temporarily, but the Yamaduttas will gather up this parampara and its enforcers in due course. Their worship of deviants as Krishna's successors is an abomination from the lowest regions. And they evidently forget, while they can create the worship of debauchees as messiahs in the short haul, only temporarily, the Yamadutta's program of gathering up such deviants to cast them down -- is a process that is eternal. The Isopanisad says these false gurus can maybe escape the laws of the state, but they cannot ever escape the laws of God. Grow up indeed! Read the shastra for a change! ys pd
From Swarup Hebel:
ReplyDeleteThe following is from a lecture Srila Prabhupada gave on New Years Day, January 1, 1975 in Madras, India:
"So, so many people, sometimes they come forward to give me some credit that I have done very wonderful thing. So I reply that I do not know how to do something wonderful. I cannot manufacture gold, I cannot show any jugglery, but if there is any credit, then the only credit is I don't adulterate. That's all. The pure milk, I don't show my expert service by adding water in it. That I do not do. So we present Bhagavad-gītā as it is."
[PADA: So this is a great quote, we should not add water to the milk. Then along comes Jayadvaita swami, and he adds every deviation known to man, including illicit sex with men, women and children -- to the guru parampara, allegedly from GOD.
And then Swarupa Hebel admits, he has learned everything from Jayadvaita swami. Right we agree, he has not learned anything from Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada says that the people who add deviants to the parampara ar gliding to hell, that's all there is to it. ys pd