Monday, March 27, 2023

Mayesvara Pt. 3 "Our Gurus Good Old Boys Omerta Code"

 


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Mayesvara: Sanaka acknowledged my letter but I was quite surprised how vehemently he rejected my suggestion as unsuitable. His movie convinced me he was committed to protecting innocent children, but his rejection to the solution that had worked so well in Los Angels was baffling. Instead, he chose to battle with the GBC Goliath who had conflicting allegiances and were not properly trained in resolving such deviations in human nature.

PADA: The "solution in Los Angeles" is -- to worship the founder fathers of the Mayapur pedophile messiah's club's leaders like Jayapataka. And JPS's Mayapur project is famous for mistreating devotees, especially children. Did we forget to mention -- reports of starving, beating and rapes of children from various India victims. How does worshiping the founder fathers of pedophile-loka help -- anyone?

Neither the GBC is really a very big Goliath. As someone pointed out, it is basically the same maybe 35 guys who manage the overall molester messiah's club's operations for decades, such as: Badrinarayan swami, Basu Ghosh, Bhakti Vikas swami, Bhakti Chaitanya swami, Bir Krishna swami, Gopal Krishna swami, Radhanath swami, Vaisesika, Jayadvaita swami, Lokanath swami, Prahladananda swami etc.

They are the main shot callers. And the background guys like Giriraja swami, Hrdayananda swami, Ravindra swarupa, Satsvarupa swami and others are still influencing things on the side. But it is still not a large group by any means. 

When we compare the 1978 Mayapur meeting photos with maybe thousands of people present, to today's, today's has significantly less people. It is not a Goliatha at this stage. In fact some of them are saying we need to make women gurus because our guru sabha is dwindling and dying off.

Many institutions develop long standing relationships between its leadership members and that is pejoratively referred to as the “Old-Boys-Club.” It has such a strong influence it can often lead to inappropriate bias decision making. This is not unique to ISKCON. It exists wherever there is a group of individuals who
are working towards a collective objective and it reflects an aspect of our human nature that often stands in the way of the way of untinged decision making. 

The “Old-Boys-Club” is referred to as the “Code of Blue” among the police force and I encountered its prejudice with officers during my 30-year career working as a database engineer for the United States Navy. Higher ranked lieutenants are expected to act with a greater moral standard than the newly enlisted 18-year-old sailor, but there is no process in place to ensure that they will.

PADA: Oh here we go. There are somewhere around maybe 60 "resident of Krishna loka acharyas" in ISKCON, but they are also a corrupt corporate good ole boys club -- that has a rotten history of decision making, especially in regards to child welfare. And every other mundane society has the same troubles with their residents of Krishna loka. Ooops, no other mundane society claims their leaders are Krishna's successors?

And these GBC pure devotee / gopi assistant / saints are operating same as the "Omerta code" MAFIA, or the "Code of Blue" that some police use -- to protect fellow police by the same code of silence idea. And that is why -- the GBC's gurus (perhaps 60 of them or something currently?) residents of Krishna loka need to be worshiped as assisting the gopis! The rotten corporate OMERTA MAFIA folks are simultaneously, dancing with the gopis? Sheesh pilgrims!

Many particularly expect that leaders in religious communities only achieve their positions of power because they are of exalted personal character with impeccable ideals. That may be initially the case, but unfortunately people change or their concealed nature becomes exposed with time. Those who naively believe that anyone is insulated from the risk of poor judgement or fall-down lives in an unrealistic fantasy world. Srila Prabhupada specifically said, utopia does not exist anywhere in this material world.

PADA: OK so the GBC gurus are residents of Krishna loka acharyas, they are assisting the gopis, they are worshiped as good as God, but we are fools if we expect good behavior from the successors to God. Sheesh! 

“So we shall not expect that anywhere there is any Utopia. Rather, that is impersonalism. People should not expect that even in the Krishna Consciousness Society there will be Utopia. 

Because devotees are persons, therefore there will always be some lacking—but the difference is that their lacking, because they have given up everything to serve Krishna—money, jobs, reputation, wealth, big educations, everything—their lackings have become transcendental because, despite everything they may do, their topmost intention is to serve Krishna.” 

Letter to Atreya Rsi, Bombay 4 February 1972

PADA: So the GBC can rubber stamp people to be as pure as God, and no one should expect that the pure as God will act properly. Rather we should expect that the residents of Krishna loka / assistants of the gopis / will be acting like debauchees and criminals. Why? Because Krishna is a debauchee and a criminal, and therefore so are His successors. In other words, Mayesvara wants to make Krishna into a lusty criminal dog, because His successors are "qualitatively" the same as Him. Told ya! ys pd 

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PADA: JD says eventually the Prabhupadanugas will be bigger group than the GBC's guru process. Yup. ys pd






V Dasa: There were many people in the Gaudiya math posing as gurus after the departure of Bhaktisiddanta Prabhupada. Prabhupada is referring to these devotees in this purport. In Iskcon with the elected guru system by the gbc panel the same thing has happened. Iskcon has become Gaudiya math part 2.
There is a total schism between godbrother’s over this issue and debate is raging on.

The fact is that the elected gurus are not uttama adhikari and Prabhupada is still with us in his Vani incarnation. Please spread our mission at the Prabhupada disciples association to all sincere seekers of the truth.

"Unfortunately, in this Age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaiṣṇavas, and Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has described them as disciples of Kali. He says, kali-cela. He indicates that there is another Vaiṣṇava, a pseudo Vaiṣṇava with tilaka on his nose and kaṇṭhī beads around his neck. Such a pseudo Vaiṣṇava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaiṣṇavas. Although passing for a Vaiṣṇava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaiṣṇava. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura therefore says that such a pseudo Vaiṣṇava is not a Vaiṣṇava at all but a disciple of Kali-yuga. A disciple of Kali cannot become an ācārya by the decision of some high-court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiṣṇava ācārya. A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false ācārya may try to override a Vaiṣṇava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga." (Cc Madhya 1.220 purport)

2 comments:

  1. M Dasi: We knew this the whole time. A heap of kicking people out, child molesting, beatings, missing money, sold buildings, and who knows what else is coming ... from their hellishness. And there is a "conspiracy of silence" to hide all these crimes. And they just realize that now?

    Otherwise how could all these crimes go on? The only question left now is, what did Mayesvara know, when did he know it, and is he part of the cover up omerta gangsters group?

    They have a code of omerta when children are being molested, oh you mean, they just now figure that out ... when the children victims knew all along? This is a great admission, we are the omerta gangsters. Sure, but we all knew that already. Gangsters posing as sadhus ... they will go down in history ... and soon ... down in Yamaraja's court. We are the omerta gangster sadhus, holy Mother of Jesus!!!

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  2. JD: We should not expect any good behavior from any devotee of Krishna, especially pure devotees -- who are assisting Krishna and the gopis. In fact! They pure devotees might be the most abominable of the lot.

    And to expect any good behavior from pure devotees is utopian. I read that all the time on shastra, the pure devotees are abominable debauchees, and if you expect otherwise you are a utopia.

    But I like the proposed title of Mayaesva's movie: "The Omerta Gangster Pure Devotees of God." Sounds like it would be a huge box office hit! Do these people think before they speak?

    Child molesting has been going on all over the place, and the big plan to fix that has been ... for the leaders to keep silent and silence the detractors? The omerta code should be applied to child abuse?

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