Tuesday, March 28, 2023

Exiled / Why No Arrests? / Mayesvara Pt. 4


I am With the Exiled 
 
LD: Most of the devotees around here have quit going to ISKCON. They do not want to be seen as supporting ... and encouraging ... a pedophile friendly program. So they are sort of ... living in exile. But Lord Rama, the Pandavas and many others also lived in exile. Lord Chaitanya exiled Himself from the smartas. That is sometimes the needful path. 

Srila Prabhupada himself self-exiled ... from the Gaudiya Matha. Many of these devotees now go to programs from other Maths, Hindu temples, Yoga classes, some of them even go to a Christian church and etc. because that is better than supporting a pedophile friendly program. One of my friends married a Christian man, because she had no interest in the ISKCON men ... whom she felt are too much misogynist and pedophile friendly. 

I live the same way, better to live in exile than be seen as a supporter of bogus rascals posing as saints. The pedophile friendly program is going to hell, and so are the people who support it. And it is better to go to almost any other program. I am an official exile-ee myself. I wanted to encourage all my fellow exile-ees like me, do not support them, you are doing the right thing.


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Bhaktin J: Why are none of the perps or their cover ups and accomplices being arrest now? Seems to me ... cover up continues. Why doesn't GBC have Jayapataka charged as accomplice, since he has been in charge of Mayapur forever? It looks like ... no one takes these horrific crimes against children serious. Why is Bhakti Vidya Purna swami not ... in jail? Why aren't his accomplices in jail? What are they waiting for? Justice delayed is ... no justice.

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Patita Pavana Das

I WONDER AND I WONDER

Sivarama Swami's leaked letter---the one that he wrote to his GBC cohorts after one of his fellow "ISKCON leaders" was found to have been a forty-year boy rapist---is well known.

In that letter Shivaram wrote, "BVPS committed abuse, but he is not a born abuser. He is a troubled person and he succumbed to temptation. But he gave 50 years of his life to ISKCON, and his abuse aside, he did valuable service. He tried to establish aspects of our culture in ISKCON. I for one appreciate that."

I wonder whether "ISKCON leader" Shivarama would like to drop in on the Atlanta Krishna Temple where abuse victim Vedasara has been the TP for 15 years, to preach his valuable opinions about protecting Anirdeshya Vapu. We are eager to hear how destroying innumerable lives is "valuable service."

Let the NWO monk from Hungary ascend the Vyasa Asan in Atlanta, and explain to the congregation there how Mayapur's devil in saffron is not a "born abuser." How can some swami poser who has been raping all sorts of people for forty years not be a born abuser? Hmmmm...?

I wonder, too, what Shivaram considers to be the "valuable service" of a criminal rapist, a fiend who has destroyed the reputation of his spiritual master.
Shivaram writes that "BVPS established 'aspects of our culture' in ISKCON. IS that some kind of Freudian slip from the mouth of someone who has ideas of "culture" that can't stand the light of day?

Is this the standard of "accidental fall-down for ISKCON swamis--or have they all gone mad from being separated from genuine devotional service? I wonder, too, how many GBC cohorts of the ex-BVP know his location now while he is absconding from the law. I wonder whether you guys can do the right thing,, and hand him over to the authorities, and behind bars where he belongs.

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In Pursuit of ISKCON Child Abusers c/o mayesvara dasa March 20, 2023 Page 4.

Attracting Flies with Vinegar?

Failing to understand this important point, Sanaka instead chose a confrontational, arm-twisting attempt to force the GBC to respond to his concerns about the ISKCON youth the way he wanted them to. He ignorantly failed to consider the fact that the people he was approaching had not yet reached the godly status of personal perfection.

[PADA: Ok the GBC gurus are being worshiped as gurus, who are as good as God, but they have not attained Godly perfection. That is called cheating. Srila Prabhupada says that people who pose as gurus without being properly purely connected to Krishna are "the most dangerous elements in human society who are destined for the most obnoxious regions of the universe." And so are their supporters, ok like Mayesvara. We are not going to stop confronting deviant / pedophile acharya programs -- because Srila Prabhupada confronted bogus gurus for his whole life, and so should we.]

Consequently, he has since earned the reputation for alienating, attacking and unnecessarily insulting those he needed the support from. What else can be expected when one charges is with autocratic, vigilante, and offensive communication skills? Yes, some very bad decisions were made, and perhaps those who made them were indeed overwhelmed by what needed to be done. But accusing everyone else of ”NOT CARING” about the welfare of the children when he did not get the reception he wanted, is not the way to gain the cooperation of those who are in the position to change things.

[PADA: Thousands of people are now doing the same thing, they are attacking the GBC guru process because it is self evident -- they do not care. And they only take action when they are exposed and attacked. That means exposing and attacking is the only option left for the people who want to reform the situation. And that is why we are going on mass media TV to expose them ourself, we should not allow a pedophile messiah's project to cheat people as if they are God's messiahs. They aren't.]

The fact is that the majority of devotees are very disturbed about the horrendous things that happened to the gurukula children and the huge scar it has on Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON. Accusing everyone who did not comply with what Sanakas demanded as being equally culpable to those who did the molestation is incendiary. It is equivalent to saying every citizen in Russia approves of Putin’s war crimes in the Ukraine. The fact is many in Russia are kept uninformed about what their government is doing because Putin is careful to prevent knowledge of his ruthless tactics in the Ukraine from reaching the Russian citizens.

[PADA: "Everyone" in Los Angeles ISKCON is upset, but then everyone goes back to worshiping the founder fathers of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club -- like Jayapataka. We are upset with Putin's invading Ukraine, therefore, lets us worship his photo on the altars, and claim he is God's successor? 

That means they are not truly upset, or they would change their policy of worshiping the leaders of the pedophile messiah's regime. They would remove the worship of the main leaders of the pedophile's guru association from their temples. They aren't. So this is called crocodile tears, we are upset, but then, it is business as usual the next day, we worship the pedophile acharya's founders and leaders. Or worse, they are still worshiping 45 years long cheer leaders of the pedophile regime like Lokanath etc.]

Innocent Until Proven Guilty!

Some people may have heard some stories about how Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami (BVPS) ran the Mayapura gurukula, but that does not mean they knew about the details expressed in Vedasara’s alarming letter. Good leaders honor the principle that: “A person should be considered innocent until PROVEN guilty.” Regardless of how heinous a given situation may appear at first, good people refrain from slurring insults, accusations and jumping to conclusions prior to when a conviction is handed down. Had Sanaka Rsi been more vigilante about escorting those who claimed to be victimized directly to good legal counsel or any of the organizations specifically set up to protect children listed above, relief would have come more
quickly. 

Instead, we now have the huge mess we collectively face today.

Sanaka wanted so badly to be seen as the heroic defender of innocent children that he adopted an “In-Your-Face” confrontational approach, to child protection in ISKCON and that undermined his effectiveness. Yes, atrocities were committed, but Sanaka got so focused on the horrid behavior of a small minority of troubled individuals that he completely forgot the important brahminical principle:

“Even if someone on the level of Lord Siva blasphemes a devotee, he will soon be destroyed. This is the verdict of all scriptures. Sinful people who ignore this fact and blaspheme devotees suffer the punishment of providence birth after birth.” -Caitanya Bhagavata Madhya-khanda 21-22.055

[PADA: Wait. So we are being banned, beaten, chased with bats, and assassinated, which means, "no one knows" what our complaints are? That makes zero sense. If we are being violently and viciously repressed, that means people are indeed very aware of what our complaints are. "People did not know" -- but they DO know we dissenters need to be banned, beaten, chased with bats, and killed? Makes no sense does it?]  

Civilized secular societies have adopted comprehensive legal systems to protect its citizens from being treated as a criminal until it is proven by a jury of their peers that they committed an offence. But the internet is the new version of the Old Wild West. There is no throttle to control or verify the dissemination of information of very destructive, prejudicial, and threatening ideas foisted onto the members of the public. This is something we should all be very concerned about!

[PADA: There is no history of any civilized society worshiping illicit sex messiahs and banning, beating, chasing with bats, and killing folks who will not bow down to their molester messiah's project. Worshiping pedophiles as messiahs is not civilized society. Sulochana said, even dogs do not worship pedophiles as their gurus, because they are smarter than the GBC and their pals like Mayesvara. 

In other words, even a dog has enough God given brains to avoid pedophile worship. Sulochana also said that GBC is not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog stools, because a bucket of dog stools will not ban, beat, molest, sue and kill the Vaishnavas. And that is why, the people who "do not know" have to have him killed, because -- they know EXACTLY what he is talking about. ys pd] 

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1 comment:

  1. M Dasi: I have to agree with you Bhaktin J. If any other person had been one of the leaders in charge of a school ... where hundreds of the students had been beaten and sometimes raped ... the other members of school administration would have had that leader charged with neglect of duty, or really aiding and abetting a criminal child abuse.

    There is no question that would be done. But! In ISKCON, that seems to never get done. Which is why (!!!) people think they are a gang of crooks all covering each other's backs. What else would people think? That means ... people think they are all partners in these crimes either directly or indirectly.

    Mayesvara is simply a good example of all the typical excuses we have heard over the years. Oh do not talk badly about the leaders it won't be effective. Talking nicely is being effective? If that is effective ... why has Mayesvara not got anything done in all this time with his sweet talking approach?

    Correct. Los Angeles still worships Mayapur molester program chief Jayapataka. How has Mayesvara changed any of that? He can't, he won't, because ... if you'd ask me ... he is one of their cover up men.
    I like reading what he does to try to explain all this ... he is digging his hole deeper every day. And all the rest of them are falling into the hole with him.

    Mayesvara talks about civilized society. They would have had the lot of them locked up 45 years.

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